Massive Mortgage Mess Update: Title Companies Stop Insuring Foreclosed Properties

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Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:31 | 618841 Henry Chinaski
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This thing could morph into some kind of October surprise...

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:46 | 618903 NOTW777
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yeah - huge increase in ipad sales, high end retail

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:17 | 619002 DarkMath
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Totally. Kind of makes me want to just stop paying my mortgage and roll the dice. Shit, I'd be like getting an extra paycheck every month. This could be the stimulus we've all been waiting for.

Dow 36,000 baby.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:55 | 618926 NOTW777
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wonder if some politican doesnt suggest all mortgages just zero d out

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:12 | 618990 hambone
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Who cares about actual's time to ramp stocks into EOD!!!

Tue, 10/05/2010 - 22:38 | 628072 Henry Chinaski
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Yes. That.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 16:08 | 619177 whatsinaname
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will the headline read - Foreclosure drop 50%, housing market stablizes and hits bottom. Buy Buy Buy.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 16:31 | 619237 curbyourrisk
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Exactly....why would anyone pay their motgage at this point....  This means savings to the moon and that easily means DOW 20,000 by Christmas!!!!

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 17:29 | 619419 DonS
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Whats interesting in that Fidelity, LPS (Lender Process Services) along with Stewart, SMI, FAF First AM et al are directly involved with the workflow process that is responsible for the way in which the affidavits are signed, They do all the back end work, provide the necessary info so that the banks can than sign were appropriate.

The documents are generated by  going through a workflow que or engine, where the required title/property info is researched by these title companies and then automatically populated (by the title company via a web  based platform) into a template on the banks side, then the finally document is printed for bank signature and notarization. This process has been going on for 8+ years.Typically the bank requires no verification of the title companies research and relies on the info they provide as fact. The Quality Assurance Review, in the banks view, stands solely on the shoulders of the title companies.


This is the same workflow process that is done for releases of mortgages, assignments, modification (to an extent). These are massive workflow processes. I know first hand.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 18:28 | 619600 MachoMan
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It makes no sense to stop providing insurance for loans because you're worried about the validity of the documents filed causing fraud on the court when you're the one drafting the documents/ensuring the right parties are in the action...

Sat, 10/02/2010 - 00:25 | 620351 StychoKiller
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True!  Sounds like the Title Co.s are in total CYA mode.  They sense that lawsuits are heading their way, and they're cutting off the fuel supply to the Sh!tstorm heading towards them.  Their belief is that the banks took their (Title Co.s) valid data and somehow corrupted it, but I'm betting that the Title Co.s probably received said data from an untrustworthy source, and the cookie jar has their fingerprints on it too!

Sat, 10/02/2010 - 11:26 | 620803 unemployed
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   Makes you wonder if they can't document for  foreclosures, how they can document for normal mortgage payoffs whether for sale or final payoff.   Repeat for the Title companies.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 18:20 | 619568 Freebird
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This is a complete farce...

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:34 | 618852 SheepDog-One
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Its on like Donkey Kong Ver. 2.9.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:34 | 618854 bugs_
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Going to need to nationalize the entire thing so nobody can sue.

Freddie Foreclosure was down in after hours trading.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:40 | 618878 Rahm
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I hear the blades ramping up to overdrive...

More handouts... bring in the helicopter!

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:54 | 618924 Bluntly Put
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Never waste a good crisis.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:17 | 619004 faustian bargain
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Rahm E. announced he's quitting, finally. Have fun with that, Chicago.

Sat, 10/02/2010 - 00:26 | 620354 StychoKiller
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What WILL Obamatron do now?  It's SO hard to find good Decepticrats these days!

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:34 | 618855 cluelessminion
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What a mess.  I can't help but feel envious of those people who own these homes;  I spent all these years packing my lunch so I could pay my bills and they default and end up getting a free house.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:36 | 618861 SheepDog-One
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Just move into whatever vacant house you feel like soon.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:45 | 618898 kaiserhoff
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+69 squatters.  We don't need no stinking badges.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:37 | 618869 Bananamerican
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if there's a chance in hell this will bring down the Bank$ I'll be cool with it....

-a renter

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:46 | 618902 NotApplicable
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There is no way these people will be allowed to stay in these homes free and clear. While they may be benefiting short-term, they will always be living under the threat of a new fedgov cure, in order to make things "fair" (that 4-letter F word).

They start out as over-leveraged debt slaves, but will be transferred over to the political slave class, where they will learn what leverage can get them in terms of bondage.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 16:09 | 619178 JLee2027
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There is no way these people will be allowed to stay in these homes free and clear

Court Rulings in Florida, Missouri, and (I think) Ohio say otherwise. Who you gonna pay when the only legal owner is yourself?

Sat, 10/02/2010 - 00:28 | 620359 StychoKiller
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Lot's of law and legal precedent falls by the wayside under Martial Law!

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 16:11 | 619185 Saxxon
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notapplicable, agreed. 'A pox on both their houses' is a Shakespearean term reserved for unilateral malfeasance.  Completely, whoeheartedly agree that when this shakes out the people who are chortling with glee for not paying the Man will be living in Fed tent cities with a wrecked credit record.

And if somehow those same deadbeats wind up in the long run better off than people like myself, who are busting ass to work harder and be smarter and pay bills; then in my humble opinion the wheels will have completely fallen off in this country and we will have officials swinging from lampposts.

Sat, 10/02/2010 - 13:17 | 620981 ViewfromUnderth...
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and in the tent next to them will be someone who bought a foreclosed house from a bank for hard-earned cash...only to have another bank demand later on to be paid and then THAT bank turfed them out when they couldn't pay and THAT bank could produce the note...

You are falling for the "deadbeat" argument that the banks want you to. This goes way deeper than that my tent-wary friend....

Good luck

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:58 | 618940 centerline
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There is just no way it could down like that.  It would be straight-up anarchy.  What will likely happen is that we all will suffer for it together.  Everyone gets f***ed.  

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:01 | 618947 cossack55
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Anarchy is the first stop on the road to Liberty. 

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:03 | 618955 centerline
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Fri, 10/01/2010 - 16:10 | 619179 JLee2027
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Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:13 | 618992 SheepDog-One
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Right, theyre faced with any further move they make resulting in certain anarchy. Its all Farcism.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:40 | 619057 Citxmech
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The thing is, who actually has the title?  If the Bank's title is voided - I'm not sure if the purported "buyer" would automatically get clear title [by what mechanism?] 

Arguably - title could go back to the original seller, albeit a clouded title now because of the lien the buyer could levy on the property for all those mortgage payments and reliance costs...

For properties that have been flipped multiple times - this might never be straightend out without some kind of title reset legislation...


Fri, 10/01/2010 - 16:11 | 619186 JLee2027
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Welcome to the Great Reset. No legislation required.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 19:38 | 619777 Dirt Rat
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...title reset legislation...


Whoa, you're asking the government to get back in the land patent business.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:46 | 619085 OpenEyes
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And, those who have a mortgage on a rental property can roll the dice for double-payout by walking on the mortgage while collecting rent.  Even those with only a primary mortgage could consider renting out their home for whatever amount they could attract and move to a rental with a lower monthly nut, or even double-up with another family member.  This could all get really strange really fast.  I just can't believe that they'll get away with it in the end though.  

Sat, 10/02/2010 - 10:13 | 620725 Zerohedge fan
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that's why I bought 20 000 ft2 mansion in Fl.

paid $50/sf2

It is just wealth transfer, nothing else.

All you need is good timing.

Life is beautifull.

American dream. Wow!

We've only just began:

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:34 | 618857 Ragnarok
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QE2, TARP2, Stimulus 2................  R.I.P.  USD

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:37 | 618860 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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So this is the Black Swan before the who bought gold with doelarrs when it was less than $10K-$25K before the doelarr was worthless Black Swan before the Treasurie Black Swan?

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:39 | 618873 SheepDog-One
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At this point Im certain it wont be 'the markets' that do us in but some massive outside force. Review Tylers 'Stuxnet' articles...what if one morning the markets simply didnt open due to the worldwide infection by this Israel produced weapons grade computer virus, and didnt re-open for a long time or ever due to the ensueing world war?

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:46 | 618899 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You could be proven correct, as I agree that the "M"arket "M"akers do not want anyone to know.....the economy is a giant hoax.  Problem/reaction/solution wouldn't go over very well if this was revealed.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:03 | 618956 cossack55
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OH, quit teasing me with my long awaited event.  The freakin sooner, the freakin better.  Drool, drool.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:35 | 619047 Conrad Murray
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"What the hell do you mean all of the money in our accounts is gone?!  We're the goddamn government!"

Sat, 10/02/2010 - 14:06 | 621050 tamboo
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EMP bitchez!

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:43 | 618889 Ragnarok
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Ebony Swan?


Pick your color:

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:48 | 618910 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Haha!  Yes with so many swans we may need to color coordinate this. 

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 15:16 | 618998 SheepDog-One
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Heather grey is nice! Just off-black but intriguing.

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:38 | 618870 the not so migh...
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If you cannot get title guarantee insurance any buyer will walk away. 

Fri, 10/01/2010 - 14:45 | 618897 Bob
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Market to stop dead in its tracks.  Hopefully, somebody digs out the entire corrupt mess in lurid detail before the Government Cover Up, I mean, Emergency Action to "protect the integrity of the markets" by covering all losses and Barry declaring that we must not look back, but "focus on the road ahead." 

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