Matt Taibbi Asks Why The Fed Gave $220 Million In Bailout Money To The Wives Of Two Morgan Stanley "Bigwigs"

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Tue, 04/12/2011 - 12:53 | 1162001 trav7777
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guillotines, bitchez

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 12:57 | 1162011 krispkritter
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Fixed it: Guillotine the bitches, bitchez.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:05 | 1162027 depression
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Clawback Bitchez !

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:11 | 1162068 hedgeless_horseman
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"But when the state is lending money at zero percent and the banks are turning around and lending that money back to the state at three percent, how is that different from just handing rich people money?"

I loved this question, even though he left out the part about fractional reserves. 

He could have said, "...and the banks are turning around and lending 15-20 times that same amount of money back to the state ..." 

Great writing!

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:14 | 1162093 A Man without Q...
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The Federal Reserve - making rich people richer since 1913....

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:25 | 1162143 hedgeless_horseman
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...risk free.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 14:12 | 1162309 long juan silver
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Regarding the 10-20X multiplier off reserve balance requirements, the risk there is/was principal risk on any lending/purchases beyond the Fed grant.

Agreed that the omission of the reserve/multiplier opportunity significantly understates the free ride given to these assholes, just challenging the categorization of the multiplied balances as "risk free". Course  there's always too big (or small) to fail!

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 14:23 | 1162409 hedgeless_horseman
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The Federal Reserve - making rich people richer since 1913....risk free.

Like Orwell said, "All investors have risk but some investors have more risk than others."

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 14:54 | 1162532 Popo
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We need guns.   Lots of guns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y70vcs3oV14

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 15:58 | 1162784 New_Meat
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Lawyers, guns, and money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5puAN1PGQw

 

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 17:42 | 1163123 DollarMenu
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No.

Not guns.

We all need a 'time out'.

The whole country - everyone just stay home.

First - turn off the TV, the radio, the cellphone.

No buying, no selling, no driving, no flying, no eating out, no working.

Nothing.

Live off those emergency preps - play with the kids, but no new toys.

Tend your garden.

A few weeks of nothing and let's see what happens.

If nothing else, it will be a great dry run for the real thing.

Won't happen of course - to many games to watch,

too many addicted to JIT paychecks or gov't subsidies.

Can't mess with the career path.

Gotta have....(fill in the blanks).

Nope - won't work.

Too many too settled into the status quo - upsetting as it is.

Maybe polar shift and landmass tsunamis?

Seriously, what is it going to take?

 

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 18:08 | 1163177 tip e. canoe
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the evolution of revolution

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 18:16 | 1163202 shortus cynicus
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you've forgot buying silver !

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 19:53 | 1163456 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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I've been hearing murmurings of violent revolt recently, and then you come along with this. Brilliant. I think it could actually work. And unlike taking to the streets and dragging Jamie Dimon straight to a waiting guillotine, the authorities couldn't do shit about this. Completely legal. Completely destructive. I love it. Let's pick a week.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:20 | 1163519 Big Corked Boots
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General Strike (bitchez)

edit: new t-shirt slogan: If you're not pissed off, you're overmedicated.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 23:42 | 1164060 FeralSerf
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A good guillotine is hard to find these days.  Maybe there is an opportunity there.

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 10:22 | 1164971 damnitalready
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It's a nice idea, but it won't work.  One of the benefits of keeping unemployment so high, 20% of the country could strike and there would be roughly no loss in work when those who are hungry for a paycheck will step up to do it.  It's not like we all have union protectionism on our side.

Get 40% of the country to participate and you might make a ding, but surely it would take atleast half the working country to do this successfully.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 21:21 | 1163702 Guarded Pessimist
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I'm in. who else is?

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 22:56 | 1163964 Widowmaker
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Time out?

Not a chance, time will only make it worse.

Time IS out.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 23:58 | 1164086 Pepe
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I like your proposal.It has a Ghandi air to it. Any idea on how to bring it about

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 21:45 | 1163786 almost_have_a_name
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The only thing these bitches risked is their necks.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 14:56 | 1162544 willien1derland
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OK - AMWQ & HH - Great ideas - gonna combine them & offer it on a t-shirt - 'The Federal Reserve, making rich people richer, risk free, since 1913' - WB7 you can pull this off!

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 15:09 | 1162602 Zero Govt
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Socialism for the rich... and their wives

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 22:46 | 1163950 Sopra Tutt1
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Actually this is what people voted for.

Obama said that he's not looking for more witch hunts, but that he's looking toward the future. This is what hope and change were all about.

I have a feeling that he's next campaign slogan will be hope and pray.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 23:44 | 1164065 FeralSerf
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Hope and pray the sheep don't wise up.  So far, so good.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 15:31 | 1162696 anonnn
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All of it justified by...privilege.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:23 | 1162134 trav7777
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Those of us even vaguely in the know - and there were a lot - saw through TALF as soon as it was announced.

Essentially, the Fed used these devices to sop up debt all over the spectrum.  If you had some of your own cash, you could put it up (sorta) and then you bought access to the Window.  Not for the little people, only the big fish.

Then you take out enough loans to buy your shit ALONG WITH paying yourself management fees and continue to roll loans until you've extracted your initial profit + 20% or whatever your expected ROI was.  Then, fuckit, stop paying, let the Fed have the shit.

The Fed DIRECTLY subsidized ALL the big fish along the way.  Little fish got the firings, cuts, pay freezes, etc.  I was working at Comcast during the time this fucking CEO got his nearly record (for US F500s) pay increase.  They were actively attriting staff all up and down, letting significant knowledge walk out the door.  And the CEO got the payraise.  Everyone below executive level got fucked while these motherfuckers bought themselves a $25M giant TV screen at HQ to serve as a digital wall (no shit) replete with digital ants crawling across it.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:28 | 1162162 InconvenientCou...
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3 years later and little if anything has changed structurally. Quite the contrary in fact.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 22:39 | 1163928 James
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My hope for ALL these people is that they do what Jesse Livermore did.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:33 | 1162176 AccreditedEYE
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+1 Willbur Ross was spouting about this program big time way back when...

http://www.businessinsider.com/willbur-ross-gives-thumbs-up-to-the-talf-2009-3

It is a bit extreme though to fund your financially unsophisticated wife's shell company for free profits when you (Mack) were a large contributor to the crisis. Complete BS. They didn't even have the brains to take it off shore.

Great comment on Exec Pay.  lol

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:58 | 1162304 Al Gorerhythm
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They didn't even have the brains to take it off shore.

No, they were so arrogant, they didn't even bother. You know the drill; Turn the other cheek.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 14:07 | 1162344 SilverRhino
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Not to worry, considering the bulk of his wealth is tied up in real estate mortgage servicing Wilbur has his own assfucking coming in a year or so.  

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 19:06 | 1163288 Bob
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Durden's ass was also chafing about it then.  I remember wishing I could get my hands on that kind of money with that kind of "risk."  It was giddlying to even imagine it--as everybody at ZH in those days agreed.  It was like Brittany Spears falling through your door whacked on coke wearing that very short skirt without panties . . . before she let herself turn to splaying dough. 

What a fucking fuck fest the Fed, uh, taxpayers threw for the banksters.  And they brought all their friends.

But, back to reality, we really gotta do something about all them "entitlements." 

Social security, medicare and medicaid.  Probly should take down all the other socialist scams of the poor, too. Somebody has to be the "adults" here and pay the bill, right?

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 22:28 | 1163904 Rick64
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  Exactly, they want to talk about cutting entitlements, all the while handing out billions to every goddamn bank on the planet on top of that they are giving it away to these offshore companies that probably aren't paying taxes, and have their investments backed by the taxpayer. They have taken hypocrisy to a new level.

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 03:35 | 1164390 recoveringibanker
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First of all, those fascists shouldn't even be referring to SS, Medicare and Medicaid as entitlements. 
Every paycheck I've received was lighter by over 7%, and my employers footed the same amount (which should have gone to me for actually doing something).

Entitlement?! Kiss my entitled ass fuqtards.

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 04:43 | 1164419 Harlequin001
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need to get back to a system that rewards real success, not accounting gimmicks...

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 10:16 | 1164955 damnitalready
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Bull, you paid for the people who were retired when you were paying in, not paying a dime for your future retirement.  It is entitlement, you gave toward others' entitlement, and now we're paying for yours.  It was never a savings account.

I realize how fu**ed up it is to pay in and risk not getting what's "yours", but call it for what it is.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:39 | 1162202 Caviar Emptor
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Yup. That was a story learned well coming out of the 1980s with the S&L crisis. It was a bonanza for the well-connected, all made possible through the generosity of the taxpayer. Only back then the country was still hoping that "Trickle-Down" would work. What they didn't realize is that the wealthy never let wealth trickle. They hoard, they stuff tax free accounts overseas, they buy villas in the South of France, and what they do buy in the US is the kind of stuff that contributes almost nothing to the productive economy: jewelry, fine art, collectible wines, and owning land. Butlers, maids and personal secretaries get a lil bit of a trickle. 

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:40 | 1162209 dark pools of soros
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but it's a hella great wall tv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXVOAF9r9S8&feature=related

 

 

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 14:17 | 1162388 Buckaroo Banzai
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Comcastic!

(rhymes with bombastic)

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 15:07 | 1162598 trav7777
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could have paid 500 employees 50k for the year for that.

Or maybe one year's bonus of the CEO.

The elite class is systematically looting EVERYTHING they touch.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 15:29 | 1162685 Rick Masters
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Couldn't agree more. How do we stop them?

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 19:24 | 1163365 Bob
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Shift the focus from the Corporate Media's theme of cutting so-called "entitlements" to what should be the matter at hand: Making people who should be paying pay.  With all their money--before they go to prison.  That message iisn't hard at all for people to grasp--they just need to hear it.

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 05:01 | 1164426 Harlequin001
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Entitlements ARE the problem, they are the reason countries sold debt in the first place.

They need to go, all of them. The problem is that too many people think they have a god given right to welfare, which they don't and especially not at my expense.

Tax the rich is a distraction. With a gold standard they would not have been able to make this money in the first place. You need to keep the focus where it should be, about removing the ability to create endless money from thin air...

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 22:57 | 1163978 Milestones
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A sheriff can't figure it out???       Milestones

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 15:35 | 1162711 Sudden Debt
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What do you expect with a black houseslave in the white house who serves them every time the little bell goes?

 

It's just discusting to see how they even get acces to governement money at all.

 

I got 1 rule: If they do/did it once, they will do it again.

These people need to be stripped from their entire wealth untill they are forced to take a normal job to put food on the table. And anything above 45.000$ a year must be confiscated by the state.

And if they are caught 1 more time doing someting illegal, they must go 20 year to jail and those who "help" them must suffer the same faith.

Somehow I don't think they would do it again if you made a example out of it with the top 5000 of those gangsters.

 

 

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 21:11 | 1163681 IQ 145
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 To be fair about it, I don't think golf-playing comedian knows anything about it. It's not hard to make the punishment fit the crime; but getting these people in the dock is another matter. In general, they're slippery as deerguts on a doorknob. Also, there's an expression; "fuck you money"; whcih is good; but then there is "fuck you power"; and that is better. When you're a member of the rulling class, you have fuck you power; you're really not going to get in trouble. Who indicted or accused King Leopold for the heinous crimes he was responsible for in the Belgin Congo? Nobody. John Pierpont Morgan was suppoened by the US Congress to testify vis a vis his involvement with the 1929 stock market crash; he and his wife and their servants got on an ocen liner in New York and left for France; he didn't even bother replying.  And so forth, and so on. A large part of the Roman Army decided to fight with Julius Caesur for the rights of the commoner against the wealthy elite, and after the fighting and dying was done and he came back to Rome at the head of his victorious army; the Senators stabbed him to death on the floor of the Senate. Because he was a real threat to their privilege; including definetely the privilege to rip off the public purse; and it didn't matter if he had an army or not, (they had one too); they just murdered him. So, it's not so easy.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 21:42 | 1163728 SME MOFO
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+ plato o plomo

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 00:33 | 1164145 thegr8whorebabylon
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et tu brute

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