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Michael Moore's Latest Love Story: Capitalism

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Here comes the populist revolt.

 

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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:19 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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"...almost like an Intelligence operation..."

Yeah, almost....

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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Lmao..good one! +10

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Yu8t (not verified)
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 05:11 | Link to Comment Sam Clemons
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Hypocrisy by Mr. Moore to the extreme.  Without Capitalism, funds would not exist to fulfill his bullshit.  This reminds me of people who pledge against capitalism while they are on their Apple laptop funded by Daddy's companies' money so they don't have to work and instead can criticize capitalism which has in fact laid their golden egg and has given them the right to criticize it.

 

 

Tue, 09/01/2009 - 22:27 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 02:28 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:20 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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Arrest all of Wall Street.

Throw Michael Moore in with them.

We'll see who wins the fight for the PBJ sandwich and survives.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:21 | Link to Comment msorense
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Elizabeth Warren played the part perfectly!  Hilarious!

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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I see it this way...this should scare that crap out of the SIA...target is all the stupid ppl who pay the most taxes that supports this Banana Republic.  Everything you always wanted to know about Wall Street, and nobody would tell you??? sit back, grab the popcorn and it will be acted out in real time with real crooks!

Rating is Dangerous if you are broke and unemployed.  But don't dismay, you can order your pitchfork at MichaelMore.com

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:29 | Link to Comment crzyhun
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Oh, please what a porker that one is. He is totally clueless, tasteless and a perfect match for Dearest Leader et.al.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:32 | Link to Comment SV
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+1... He plays to the mindless bot that can't do their homework or read between lines.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 16:07 | Link to Comment Marshal Ney
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-2 Nothing but ad hominem slams. Moore made Fahrenheit 911 when most of the country was still buying the Cheney and Bush lies. It took courage and a perceptive mind to make that movie. I love the guy... a national treasure.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 16:12 | Link to Comment Bob
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He tends to be a propagandist,which puts me off, but he's on the right side of this mess with the new movie.  Note the howls of criticism coming from the "revolutionaries" here . . . moneyed-ass-kissing sycophants who know, when push comes to shove, exactly where their bread is buttered. 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 22:05 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 02:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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That mindless Bot elected the dictators to benefit our enemies!!!!

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:53 | Link to Comment MinnesotaNice
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The majority of our country is made up of people who read between the 8th and 9th grade level... which means they would never be able to understand this blog and the complexity of the issues it addresses... and any financial concept beyond the interest on their savings account would be too complex to grasp.  As controversial as Michael Moore can be... he does translate the complexity of the message that we read everyday on ZH into more simple terms so the majority of the people in our country can also understand the message and understand the basic concepts.  So yes in a way I do agree with Sqworl... that if we have a hope of really getting out of this mess... someone besides the MSM needs to educate those less knowledgeable or hindered by the complexity of concepts and language.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:02 | Link to Comment SV
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I'm doing my part to educate - Sit down with my 1st grader everyday to read.  Enjoying Matilda now, City of Ember next and Animal Farm.  I wasn't half as smart as that kid at his age.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:27 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 19:28 | Link to Comment Bob Dobbs
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Frank also named one of his kids "Moon Unit" didn't he?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 21:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 06:44 | Link to Comment Bob Dobbs
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Yeah, that's right!  I forgot about old Dweezil.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:13 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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The trailer showed us only a part, a view that is popular and easy to share with many.  Michael Moore is a goddamned Socialist, and his movie will "educate" the masses to demand a soclialist solution; that part wasn't shown in the trailer.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:39 | Link to Comment MinnesotaNice
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Yes... I agree with your point... you may be right... rather educating the populus so they can vote in those who can really fix the situation... he may  educate them just enough to further leverage the government and line up at the trough with the TBTF's.  Is there another country we can move to... I think this is a hopeless effort... maybe Texas will secede :-)

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 09/01/2009 - 08:41 | Link to Comment MinnesotaNice
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Sorry, I haven't quite figured that out yet... but I do have great concern that our two-party system is broken... democracy isn't working out exactly like the founding fathers envisioned... my feeling is that it may work better on a smaller scale as in when they lived... but on this large of a scale it is ripe for corruption.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 16:56 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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First, apologies to anyone whom I apparently misled into believing that I wished to engage in the false left-right paradigm.  I do not.

Socialism refers to various theories of economic organization advocating state, worker or public ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with an egalitarian method of compensation.

  1. Single-payer health care would be what, exactly?
  2. Who owns GM and Chrysler?
  3. Medicare and Medicaid are what, exactly?
  4. Social Security is what, exactly?
  5. Fannie and Freddie are what, exactly?
  6. The income tax system, which actually functions to pay refunds (the "Earned Income Credit") to people who have in fact paid no tax owing to their low income, is what exactly?

Wanna go again?

 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 17:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:18 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:55 | Link to Comment lookma
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Might you be drawing somewhat thin and arbitrary distinctions between socialism and fascism?  Really that different - maybe not.

Socialism and fascism are each forms of statism, forms of government in which the government is given complete or extensive control over the lives of its citizens.  They may espouse marginally different idealogical goals and make divergent claims as to the degree of eocnomic freedom, but its largely window dressing.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 19:21 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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1. Single-payer isn't even on the table.

So they now claim, but they want it to be.

2. We may have collectively paid off tons of private parties...

GM and Chrysler were stolen from senior secured debtholders; while chunks were given to the unions (redistribution) the rest was retained by dot gov.  It may be too early to tell, but the fact that a chunk was given to the UAW belies their intent.  I agree that, generally speaking, smashing companies and taking them, or simply taking them, is more facist.  The government clains it does not intend to run the businesses.  We will see.

5.  Fannie and Freddie have been and are being used as wealth-redistribution schemes under the guise of a public entity.  It is a government "business" run with the intent being the meeting of a perceived social need.  Classic socialist program.  You couldn't be more wrong.

6.  I cannot find in my post anywhere where I made the statements you attribute to me in your #6.  I merely stated that the income tax code contains a provision whereby people who had paid no tax were able to get cash refunds, and that that was a wealth redistribution scheme.  This renders your last point a classic strawman.  I note that in it you make what appears to be your most strongly-worded condemnation of my position, including nutball, extremist, etc.  Not even a good try.

Wanna go again?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 20:22 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 23:04 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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It's silly to quibble too much about definitions.  Redistributionist policies I generally consider to be socialist; whether or not the means of production are actually owned, if for example the output is owned by virtue of its being (partially) seized and redistributed for social justice reasons, then by any other name...we do have some examples of actual overt state ownership of the means of production.  We also have such a massive regulatory state that all businesses can be thought of as "government-controlled", except those that control the government.

Someone points out elsewhere in this thread that the -isms we debate are merely varations of statism.  Corporatism, socialism, facism....all of these are variations on a theme, with the theme being age-old: rape of the workers / producers, by the rich / gentry / upper classes / royalty / whatever, and keep as much of it for themselves as they can get away with, using some of the loot to pay their partisans and maintain their place on top, some of it to pay for security ("courts of justice", police, etc) to keep the serfs in line, and the rest for.....just what is it that all of that wealth is for, anyway?

Anyway, I don't intend to get into a history discussion, and I don't intend to get into the phony left-right thing either.  Our enemy, the state.

Tue, 09/01/2009 - 06:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 19:36 | Link to Comment xris
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don't expect the socialist trolls to understand these simple facts anytime soon... the government sanctioned oligopolies have a way to go before the walls come tumbling down. and looks like China is leading the crazy parade on that front today.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 21:26 | Link to Comment Bob
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There's never anything quite as effective in dividing for the conquering than the ignorant red herring of "socialism."  Yours is the voice of the priviledged morons who now have the gall to whine that "it just ain't fair!"  Them's the simple facts . . . GS, Barry O, et all couldn't buy better agents of disinformation. 

 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 22:30 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:45 | Link to Comment lookma
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You are truly a pinhead. The only socialism happening in this country is the massive transfer of public funds to private corporations.

In part an effort to monetize the bad debt they incurred supproting the G's huge social experiment in boosting home ownership?  Got FANNIE/FREDDIE/GINNIE?

1.25 trillion in agency MBS, 200 billion in agency debt.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 22:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 17:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 16:30 | Link to Comment Seth Davis
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whats a CDS?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:06 | Link to Comment MinnesotaNice
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I am pretty sure you are being sarcastic, but just in case here is a link...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_default_swap

 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:33 | Link to Comment berlinjames02
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CDS = Commie Dick Sucker

If you look it up in the dicktionary, you'll probably see a picture of Barney Frank.

Maybe Michale Moore, but I'm not sure how he rolls?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:52 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:32 | Link to Comment passive_lurker
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I'm strangely attracted to this film...but I guess it was a wrap before Barry-O took office.

 

 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Yu8t (not verified)
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:39 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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The latest from financial guru  Robert C.

A Stock Market Rally Engineered by our Government

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14918

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:40 | Link to Comment tradertim
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michael moore has enough 'capitalism' in his fat belly to feed the inhabitants of darfur.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:45 | Link to Comment ReallySparky
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I saw this preview this weekend while out at the movies.  While sitting there, preview finished, a couple sitting next to me said,"Honey maybe we should see that, then we would understand what is going on".  If Moore can start the populist revolt, with Joe and Jane Sixpack, then I may change my opinion about him.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:56 | Link to Comment Daedal
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I'm sure on some level Moore will expose some of the guilty party, but the fundamental problem with Moore's Mockumentary is that Capitalism is being blamed -- meanwhile the reality is that government intervention (& the Fed) is the root cause of our problems.

Michael Moore sees that there's a problem, but he doesn't understand that those who extol the virtues of capitalism (Bush) have never upheld it to begin with. In fact, Bush gave a speech almost 1 year ago saying (paraphrasing) "I have abandoned my capitalist principals, in order to save the capitalist system." How are they principals if they are abandoned during trying times?! Of course, as I said earlier, capitalism has been sideswiped by socialist policies for a century with greater and greater acceleration (in both rate of adoption and subsequent problems).

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:59 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:15 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Socialism helps people.

OMFG.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 17:02 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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You are incorrect.

"Socialism steals money from the middle class and gives it to non-producers, then threatens the middle class with violence if they resist."

"Facism steals money from the middle class and gives it to the big corporations who own the government, and then threatens the middle class with violence if they resist."

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 17:28 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:20 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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To quote Durbin, "The bankers own this place."

They surely do while they control the dollars our politicians like to get their hands on.  What happens when the dollar becomes worthless?  What do the bankers then have that they can buy our politicians with?

Since they've been shorting gold and silver down via the paper COMEX, or often referred to as the CRIMEX, it is most likely that they've been quietly buying physical gold and physical silver so they'll continue to remain in control of our politicians when the dollars they so efficiently print no longer have any value, other than as toilet paper.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:01 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
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It doesn't matter how he gets the message across, "capitalism" is just a word, one that most Americans don't even know the true meaning of. Most think it is "good", because the Europeans are "socialists". Don't ask them to explain why, unless you want blank stares all around.

Moore has the ability to touch nerves, and this is a necessary component to get peoples' attention and make them get off their asses and start learning about what is actually going on.

Like him or hate him, he gets asses in seats. This could be a good thing, regardless of how the message is put across.

 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:51 | Link to Comment mblackman
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Not another Moore diatribe! I'm getting sick of his "mockumentaries" in which he just makes shit up and carefully weaves these distortions into his carefully choreographed scary-tale to get the viewer where he wants them - even more misinformed than they were before but now looking for a scapegoat.  Moore is the Sicko in my books!

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:41 | Link to Comment FoolMeTwice
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Watching CNBS much?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 16:36 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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"...he just makes shit up and carefully weaves these distortions into his carefully choreographed scary-tale to get the viewer where he wants them - even more misinformed..."

I coudn't agree more black man.  You've got to have quite an ego to think anyone but the banks can get away with that kind of bullshit...

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 16:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:10 | Link to Comment ShankyS
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Well, it will be the first MM movie that I will watch. Looking forward to anyone distributing the truth to the masses.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:10 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 16:39 | Link to Comment Bob
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Yeah, but pawns with money love to shit on the pawns without money who they see lurking around every corner waiting to steal some of their loot.

Could there be anything worse than a guy with money who actually believes in sharing?

 

 

 

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:26 | Link to Comment Joe Sixpack
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Let them eat cake.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:43 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Wall Street must have hired Michael Moore to do this film.  What better what is there to turn off the populace to the idea of looking under the hood of Wall Street?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 16:37 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Only when you live within 50 miles of the ocean, or in Detroit.

Perhaps walstreetpro2 would be a better fit for the subject.

Tue, 09/01/2009 - 12:27 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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There's some element of truth in the part where you say the right wingers who are presently anti-Wall Street, may become more pro-Wall Street after Moore's hit piece. I guess you just have to watch Fox News and read Zero Hedge to figure if that pans out. But the funding of Michael Moore for this film probably didn't come from any Wall Street PR firms. Moore is pretty good at making his points, even if you don't agree with him.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:23 | Link to Comment Yu8t (not verified)
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 06:49 | Link to Comment Bob Dobbs
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Cetin?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:46 | Link to Comment JHCM
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Where's Ayn Rand when you need her?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:50 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 19:24 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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If you need a refresher, I suggest reading "Francisco's money speech":

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 20:46 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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Waiting for Alan Greenspan, in hell, of course.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:47 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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Great, now we have this douche bag to be angry for us. Soon enough they will run out of harmless channels for anger.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:52 | Link to Comment thegreatsatan
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I'd be more impressed if he did a "documentary" on our education system, the absolute control that Unions have over it, and the dreadful and loathsome waste that is prevalent within nearly every school district in the United States.

If you have an educated and informed populace, its far tougher to trick them. For 50 years now, liberals have controlled the schools and have created the vast majority of retards who currently reside within the US. Who do you think belives the shit they see on CNBC?

Moore is nothing but an opprotunist and a charlatan. He knows full well that the people who buy into whatever bottle of snake oil he's selling this year are too fucking stupid to know better. So he spoonfeeds the ignorant with "clever" or "witty" one sided setups that produce Perry Mason style gotchas and the proles oooh and ahhh. Its Circuses and Bread for everyone!

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 17:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 09/01/2009 - 00:02 | Link to Comment Arthor Bearing
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Locusts fly in formation though they have no king. I'm not a believer in conspiracy, just complicity.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 15:54 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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This movie will only be worthwhile if he takes on the real evil in this country, the Federal Reserve.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 23:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 16:06 | Link to Comment NumisEX
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I wasn't a Michael Moore fan, but I may need to check this out opening day.

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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Seth Davis
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I would watch it more for its comedic value than actually taking any serious insight from it.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 22:57 | Link to Comment Frank Owen
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Aren't you the guy who asked what a CDS is?!?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 16:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:24 | Link to Comment dnarby
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"Roger and Me" was his best film, and IMO it was all downhill from there.

I'm with Anon 54407 on this one - Who knows, maybe he'll actually do some good.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:28 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Leo Kolivakis
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Damn, if only Mr. Moore consulted me before he produced this film, I would have fed him TONS of material on crooks who legally steal from the masses' pensions!

Leo Kolivakis
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 19:26 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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The movie appears to be more about endearing Michael Moore to the masses than it is about getting down to details.  After all, if there were lengthy interviews with experts like yourself, how much screen time would Michael Moore get?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 20:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:26 | Link to Comment Zippyin Annapolis
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MM needs to interview Cramer.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 18:27 | Link to Comment agrotera
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Currently, Michael Moore is a hated left wing radical. 

If he follows through and this movie doesn't push a socialist agenda, then he will be a hero. 

If on the other hand, he uses this trailer to suck in movie goers, then baits and switches into socialist propaganda...well, then he will be considered a liar, bate and switcher, socialist propaganda machine.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 20:41 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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All populists are bait and switchers.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 21:14 | Link to Comment agrotera
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why do you say that Ben_the_Bald?

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 23:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 19:35 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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It's kind of funny how it works out. This is britains version of stephen colbert and John Stewart

http://harishpillay.livejournal.com/120087.html

The second video is so funny it will almost make you pee.

Tue, 09/01/2009 - 00:04 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 20:03 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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I think he's right, the Board of Directors of AIG should be arrested.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 20:05 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 09/01/2009 - 00:07 | Link to Comment Arthor Bearing
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That's the point, government shouldn't have its hand in it in the first place. We haven't had a capitalist economy in decades: http://mwhodges.home.att.net/summary.htm#govt

Tue, 09/01/2009 - 00:25 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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+1.  On the money

Tue, 09/01/2009 - 08:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 08/31/2009 - 21:04 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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I always find it amusing that the best retort people can give to Michael Moore is "He's Fat!!!!!1!1!" ZOMG!

Strawman. 

Oops, I just broke the rule about feeding the troll.

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 21:06 | Link to Comment Cornelius
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Fat fuck...

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