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Mid-Term Election Open Thread
Since political commentary is most certainly not our strong suit, and since the Zero Hedge staff really couldn't care less about the outcome of this particular election, we leave it up to our proactive and interested readers to discuss, if they so desire, the evening's political developments.
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Ron Paul says that the government shouldn't interfere with the individual's right to partake of any cut of tea whatsoever.
Tea boned?
The Emperor Wears No Clothes - By Jack Herer
If you voted Red or Blue, "D" or "R", you voted to continue the contol by the corruption cabal.
No matter how many times this coin is flipped, the results are predetemined:
Heads THEY Win.
Tails YOU Lose.
The public servants arrogance of heads win, you lose is overwhelming.
Nice Tartan brother
http://clanurquhart.masterplanfoundation.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Crest_Badge_3.jpg
2 mins til the next flash crash/dash in the Yen.
"You suck!"
"No, YOU suck!"
And so forth....
Junk me?!
No junk, YOU!!!
And such and such...
Gonna miss Grayson's rants and youtube vids from the House Floor (the one about the Red Roof Inn is classic)...He's down 57% to 37% with 30% reporting:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/state/#val=FL
yep, and Alan West is winning
he's got a lame duck session to prove that his rants weren't just an act. would love to see him go into full-on Traficant mode with nothing to lose.
Grayson can never go "full-on Traficant", or he'd have to dump AIPAC and Israel.
Too Bad.
Alan Grayson was the ONE Democrat everyone should have supported.
However, here in NV here's what we did:
Mrs. Swordfish and I both cast our votes early.
We voted:
Senate: Sharron Angle (R)
House: Joe Heck (R)
Governor: Brian Sandoval (R)
For every other office: A Straight Libertarian Ticket, down to County Commission and School Board.
Flawed though it may be, long live our country.
Want to take care of the Banksters and the Criminal Wealthy? First Get Government Out of The Way, and then let The People have at them!
We The People Can Do It, if we will just believe.
Best to All:
KrvtKpt. Laughing Swordfish
Kommandant-Im-Deputize DKM Trading
Alan Grayson is a complete asshole. I'm positively thrilled that he lost.
Right there with ya LS.
We have to at least try...now we hold their ass to the fire...metaphorically...at first ;-)
Anyone find it odd that the FED Meeting is the day after the Election? Is the decision of the FED going to be based on what happens in the Election? So, if Dems Win 1 Trillion QE2, if Republicans win 0 QE2.
Not odd at all. They don't want to be seen as influencing the election. If they did, someone might notice how unchecked their power is.
I have a theory.
As the dam bursts (soon), they will all be safely on an island that probably has th efollowng items:
1) Massive underground bunker,luxury stuff
2) A fleet of planes to take them where they need to go hide, in case they need to go hide.
Everyone will be baying for their blood and not know where to even find them!
Master stroke. At the moment of their inception 100 years ago.
And symbolically, Discovery will lift-of for it's last last last flight.
Watch this unfold, going to be fascinating. It's hand-showing time.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
1) Greenbriar resort, White Sulphur Springs, WV
http://www.greenbrier.com/staying-here/the-bunker.aspx
2) A fleet of planes coming to India in 2 days as dress rehearsal
- Ned
Aha! Interesting. I knew India had some meaningful role to play.
Hiding the bankers though?
I'd rather give the bankers a hiding.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
Vote the inners out, and the outers in.
...and keep repeating. Still won't get us out of this mess, but would at least keep thing interesting.
duplicate post. oops.
Don't blame me; I voted for Kodos...
tonight we are presented the choice between two ruling parties: one amounts to hannibal lector; the other wants to be hannibal lector when it grows up.
frankly, it doesn't matter to me whether i'm eaten by a lion or by a tiger; either way i'll end up dropping on the ground behind the beast when its finished with me.
Oh no, the agenda is at risk:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20101102/D9J87HC00.html
Tried to sum it up for my friends north of the border - not economists but a few politicos:
http://arkadaba.blogspot.com/2010/11/mid-elections-i-have-been-thinking.html
Bollocks ta the lot of 'em!
Rubio is gonna be the new senator from Florida.
Suck on that, Cornyn, you RINO short timer.
Rubio is just another republican warmonger. Congrats on that...
Thanks! I'm quite happy, actually.
That is one in the eye for the establishment Rs.
I like that.
Could you define "warmonger?"
If they repeal ObamaCare, I'll forgive them much.
A warmonger or warhawk is someone who is constantly calling for war. A lot of them are republicans who claim to be outside the mainstream and talk a good talk about a lot of issues but stop short of calling for bringing home the troops. Rubio may not be "establishment" but he says right on his website that the U.S. should continue going to bat for other nations rather than letting them fight their own battles, and he supports increasing pressure on certain countries via the UN which is guaranteed to lead to war. The biggest problem facing the government right now is the insane amount of money they waste on the military and he says nothing about cutting any of that. In fact in his "12 easy ways to cut spending," one of his suggestions is this: IDEA #10: Freeze Federal Non-Defense, Non-Veterans Spending At 2008 Levels.
So yeah we can freeze all spending even if it means old people go hungry, but forget about cutting the military. He's another wolf in sheep's clothing in my opinion. That he was on the "outside" is irrelevant. Especially since he's now on the inside.
dude you stoled my avatar. not cool dawg
Really? I actually stole it from someone's facebook profile and cut it down to size so it was more visible. If it makes you feel better I'll find another one.
Naw, 'tis all good. For alls I know, you were here befo me. I don't post frequently either. Just giving ya crap. Have a good one.
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flaunt HistoryChanged it anyway. No biggie.
dude you stoled my avatar. not cool dawg
dude you stoled my avatar. not cool dawg
dude you stoled my avatar. not cool dawg
Florida is just Northern Cuba.
Last Words by H.L. Mencken
http://www.bigeye.com/mencken.htm
if Menchen were alive today he'd be in prison for sure
for every liberatarian in this country, there are hundreds of zombie statists voting, voting and voting
I refuse to vote in my own slavery; so to you voters I say thanks for your efforts to retain this unhuman system that puts as its number one priority police state controls and a pirate ship called the military industrial complex
Christine O'Donnel is a milf. Easily a 7/10 in a thong.
But she is not a wilf.
Incidentally, CNN called it for her opponent before any votes even came in.
She is not a woman you would like to f***? Ok I get it, Mr Patek Philippe. You snort coke from virgins' pussies every night after turning off your HFT machine.
No BD, she is "not a witch", therefore she is not a wilf. Campaign humor. Hardy har.
Now what is this about snorting coke off of virgins?
My mom only lets me do it off the maid's ass. Not fair.
duh
cnn said she lost with 0% of the votes counted!! lol
I'd hit it.
Yeah, but that's not sayin' a lot! ;P
Her face is already fucked up. Why would you hit it again?
Go Rand ..Let us get is started.
Meanwhile I can assure you I was the only non democratic voter at my site in Manhattan but I showed up and cast my votes against the Gillibrands and Schumer hedge fund captures simply because we need to begin to make these races closer
Two Pauls are better than one!
Fucking Grayson is an idiot. It is such a shame to lose such a stringent opponent of the Fed because he was silly enough to play Left V Right games and call names of the Republicans during the health care bill.
Yeah doesn't look good right now. One of the few I even respected - meaning politicians. Doensn't matter which side they come from.
He did it to himself. I was completely in favor of this man but then he had to start calling Repubs elderly killers..I mean cmon..how can someone which such congitive abilites regarding our banking cartels become cyclops in relation to health care. NEVER CALL NAMES. Eventually the cheats will defeat themselves because they cannot stand up to the factual data that the Fed is imporverishing us on a daily basis with political cover and even the President who pretends they do not exist.
Let's hope he keeps up the fight somewhere else. I didn't realize he called the Repubs elderly killers.
Well we are blessed here because we have bullshit laser surgery but the rest of the nation see Blue vs Red and it is sad because they are no equiped with the education/economic basis to stave off their own demise.
And lol "Since political commentary is most certainly not our strong suit, and since the Zero Hedge staff really couldn't care less about the outcome of this particular election..."
First reason I first started coming to this site was because you did macro as well as micro.
Thanks!
"And I say your three cent titanium tax goes to far"
"And I say say your three cent titanium tax doesn't go to far enough!"
So you voted for John Jackson or Jack Johnson?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk
This is the best we can do?
I'm just one little guy but I do vote.
Sometimes I dispair at the choices I am given but I do vote.
You may think that it is a waste of time but too many of my family has fought, shed blood, and even died for this country not to at least make an effort to influence the election. Revolutionary War (some fought on both sides), Civil War (Great-grandfather--KIA), WWI (Uncle--fought on Western Front), WWII (Uncle, WIA in Battle of Bulge, Father, in first wave of Invasion of North Africa), Korea (Cousin, KIA), Vietnam (Brother, combat soldier). This is just a partial, off-hand list.
If you don't believe that all that means something and obligates me to "support and defend the Constitution" by voting for by the best candidate (even in a bad lot) you don't believe in much.
Yes, the Republicans are taking us to Hell on a bus, but the Democrats are taking us to Hell on a rocket.
Sometimes being cynical is smart but you can also be too smart for your own good.
If all you do is vote republican, then you're still sending us to Hell. If you're voting republican to buy time while we turn the bus around, in other ways, it might make sense.
Vote out ALL incumbent judges. They are just lawyers perpetuating the racquet. I try not to give them time to perfect it.
Vote out ALL incumbent judges. They are just lawyers perpetuating the racquet. I try not to give them time to perfect it.
Zero we need to begin to become more proactive with the poltical arm and calling out those such as Adriana Huffington for their overt democratic/globalist leanings. We need to begin to campaign for him right now. Why on earth would Mitt Romey be reported as the "Repub Favoite" when he has achieved nothing and is merely an established arm of the Right wing.
Glenn Beck is another one who shot themselves in the foot while complaining about Blumenthal when he very easily could have supported Schiff who would have destroyed McMahon if he had some politcial backing. This was a travesty and he would have torn Blumenthal to shreds in debates and overcome those 10 points.
no we don't
Yeah we do because if the proper representatives were in place these financial atroicities could not occur Orly.
Your efforts will be futile until you get the special interests (read money) out of politics.
Wow.I am shocked so many of you are such defeatists. The money interest only works because the majority remain uneducated on what the true plague of this nation is regarding the Fed and manufactured governmental data. I never said it was easy but is certainly is worth attempting even if it is one mind at a time.
Do you think I enjoy talking until my throat is raw to those who will listen and my depserate attempts to have them shrug political leanings. If we all tried collectively it would go a great distance although I admit having the financial influence makes things considerably easier.
listen Pal, you can vote until your a thousand years old and its not going to change anything
there are going to be changes, and it going to be messy
I suppose we should keep speculating in the squid markets becuase that's all going to get cleaned up?
it just like Rome, the twits were so f ing decadent, that they did'nt give a rats ass that there Empire was about to collapse. Their pea brains had visions of a restored Rome, when a small minority knew it was all over
Maybe not but I will try. Do you think I did not know going out and voting against Gillibrand in den land NYC was a waste of time?
Regardless I went out and voted for the Libreterian and you know what these elections are much closer than last year so I win.
500+ Ron-Paul-types seems difficult to imagine...
if the proper representatives were in place...
Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny would make a good choice as they have extensive experience with mythical existence.
ughhh. I know it is so easy to feel defeated and I do as well but we must have some hope based in actual history and foundings no?
"Every country has the government it deserves," said Joseph Marie de Maistre.
I know it is so easy to feel defeated and I do as well but we must have some hope based in actual history and foundings no?
I don't feel the least bit defeated. Ever since I came to realize that only the individual is sovereign a great weight has been lifted from me.
No one can represent you but you. No one can improve your situation but you. Admitting this frees you from waiting for the good hearted political liberator who will never arrive.
Agreed.I also tend to think we are the liberators and can be more constructive collectively than by ourselves. Remember one person did not transform America it's greatness but many minds. I am not strong enough on my own honestly and I would hope most throughout history have not been but together by talking to family and friends I foolishly believe we can alter events.
we are the liberators and can be more constructive collectively than by ourselves
Yes, we should work together. Politics is not work, it's theft. It involves theft of property and sovereignty. When the oligarchy fails we will liberate by leading by example. The only leaders will be those who have ideas which others wish to follow. Politics imposes decisions upon others which is not leadership, but compulsion. The benefits derived from independent men working together are diminished and ultimately destroyed by coersive systems.
I think leadership as we (last 400 or so years or maybe back to Venice) is sordid, corrupted and bad for people.
If there is any "leadership" to emerge, I say it's time for a return to the philosopher kings.
Democracy and all it's myriad manifestations are a sham.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
"If there is any "leadership" to emerge, I say it's time for a return to the philosopher kings."
I guess ya go with what ya know eh ORI...LOL.
In case you hadn't noticed...we ain't much on kings & queens in America.
For every philosopher king...and queen...and their free loading court along with their dukes, barons & other assorted hangers on...there is a Xerxes or a Bonaparte that fancies himself one.
"Democracy and all it's myriad manifestations are a sham."
Ahhh...so that's your confusion.
This was not set up as a democracy. It was set up as a republic.
We are merely trying to get it back.
But thanks for your interest...all the way from India ;-)
Why don't you submit posts to ZH on canidates or political subjects since you seem to be knowledgeable on this subject. It would be nice to get the ball rolling for Ron Paul.
Yeah, let's expend a bunch of energy in partisan bickering with the MSM. That sounds really productive.
There is not much partisan talk here on ZH. I am pretty sure we are all aware of who the enemy is. Going to the source does however seem productive. The financial machinations only work of there is no checks and balances in the supposed authorities such as:
Congress, Senate, SEC, FBI, MSM (Which is intended to be the 4th branch of government).
What does a Blumenthal win mean? He's a Wall St. hawk no? Spitzer 2.0?
DP
noice!
Means Ct. has two jooos.
He even lied about his war record, but I guess it really doesn't matter does it?
I thought Spitzer was a "john" as well as talk-show host.
Liberals whine, conservatives bitch. They both suck.
I refuse to vote for the lessor of two weevils.
Do you not know that in the service … one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?
--Aubrey
I was going for another layer of meaning by using "lessor".
Too much?
I thought that was an error.
My mistake.
Nicely done, both posts.
Good movie, some great lines well delivered ...
I like too the toast, approximately ...¨To¨our wives, and to our loves ... may they never meet!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/azrainman/2074221914/
I'll vote after Campaign Finance Amendment. I won't legitimize this worthless exercise until then.
Better: "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of production and trade."
As the Japanese say, "Erection 2010" - America takes it up the ass, AGAIN!
As the Japanese say, "Erection 2010" - America takes it up the ass, AGAIN!
Rand Paul is not a libertarian. He is just a NWO protegé working as bait for any patriots who would fight back in a martial law situation.
Link ??
No link, just common sense. They are testing the waters right now.
I don't see it. Can you elaborate?
I am saying that Rand Paul is not Ron Paul. He has always supported our going into Afghanistan and is in favor of further policing along the border with Mexico. Libertarians understand that in a truly capitalistic economy, mass immigration is a symptom of wealth redistribution within the richer country's borders: immigration is but a symptom of our socialist country. If Rand can't understand that he can't be the strict constitutionalist he claims to be.
I just assumed Rand was trying to play the political game a little more than his father. In other words; doing a little pandering to less sophisticated types so he could get into office and do some good stuff.
I know assumptions are risky but since he's Ron's boy I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. We'll know soon enough if I was right.
Libertarianism is the advocacy of individual liberty, especially freedom of thought and action. . .
lol, how very libertarian of you Rand.
If a person believes that a fetus has the same right to life as anyone who has been born, then supporting anti-abortion laws would be very similar to supporting laws against murder. The abortion issue is very tricky and maybe not the best way to judge Rand's commitment to liberty.
body sovereignty.
only available to half the population.
"if a person believes that a fetus has a right to life". . . are they paying for that full life? and what of the human female forced to carry an unwanted fetus? and what of the scores of males who refuse to curtail the "spreading of their seed" and take responsibility for the fetus?
I agree it is a "tricky" issue, but "Rand's commitment to liberty" is heavily weighted in favour of the shiftless males.
[edit: lol anonymous tool junkers, let me guess, dudes?]
compulsory sterilization then.
If the fetus is a life-in-being, you are liable to it through no fault of its own. In fact, the fault is YOURS.
Therefore, it is unethical to terminate it; you owe a duty of care prior to viability.
Exactly.
I'm down for that - test for paternity, sterilise the sperm donor.
because unless you believe in immaculate conception, it takes two to make a fetus.
I guess I was wrong about abortion being a tricky issue...
it's relatively easy for men to make the decision to deny a woman the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, the right to make a decision about her own body.
it's very easy for a man to insist on unprotected sex, then walk away from the results.
it takes critical thinking skills to understand both sides of the issue, and to realise that while one woman is forced to carry a pregnancy to term, the man who impregnated her can actually be impregnating dozens and dozens of other females with zero responsibility for his actions.
either women and men are both humans with rights and responsibilities applied equally to both, or there should be some constitutional laws that say otherwise, clearly spelled out.
[edit: and yah, great argument junker]
Rand Paul is a hundred percent zionist boot licker. I know Alex Jones supports him all of that but look at some of the statements both of these people have said in the past and make up your own mind. Ron Paul may be just a stalking horse as well. This whole game is rigged. You must constantly look around and see what is really going on and not accept anything that happens at surface value. Talk and action are two different things. Ron Paul talks about Austrian economics but at the same time he makes sure that his district gets as many pork barrel projects as he can, matter of fact, you can check on this if you wish, but I think he is one of the worst pork barrel spenders in Congress. Yes he says he is a libertarian. Hmm. Not to mention his membership and support of the John Birch Society which was a creation of the enemy and was always controlled opposition and finally it is highly suspected he is a 33 degree freemason. And the beat goes on.
I think Ron Paul's explanation of why he earmarks money for his district is logical and consistent with his philosophy about taxes. I also believe that the projects he earmarks are good for the majority of people in his district, not like a "bridge to nowhere". If Ron Paul is working against The People then he's a fucking good actor.
http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/earmark-reform/
Now that Obama has fled town with his dog and pony show, why doesn't Ben, Timay, Lloyd and all the other Cronies take the opportunity to move into the White House? We all know they are running the country anyway, so I say just fricken move in. This election will be just another distraction for them to continue pecking away at what's left of the American Carcass.
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Chart: TF
Could there be a possible Wolfe Wave forming in the Russell futures?
http://99ercharts.blogspot.com/2010/11/tf.html
Who gives a flying rats fuck ?
Chart: TF
Could there be a possible Wolfe Wave forming in the Russell futures?
http://99ercharts.blogspot.com/2010/11/tf.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/forum/99er-charts
Blumenthal is a populist. It is hard for me to say this that I prefer him over free spending McMahon but during the entire 2010 elections there has never been a clearer choice than Schiff for Senate in relation to what we oppose personally. Peter Schiff is everything we stand for as it relates to monetary policy and economic liberty and even though I love Zero Hedge we should have been verbally supportive of him vs McMahon. For Gods sake ZH can initiate a response from Goldman and Cardinal IPOs but it cannot endorse candidates?
This is not intended as slight against Tyler or ZH because he presents the non-political aspect typically and avoids politics but if you want to complain about injustices politics at ZH must become secondary because we need the proper tools and ears to listen to the truth which is Zero Hedge in power. I speak of us as a whole because only we primarily understand that we are the true minority because we are enlightened and we must band together to both promote this site along with the non-bias which accompanies this site.
When we begin to grasp the amount of poltical dollars spent to elect the elites, bribe unions and advertise on the mainstream propaganda it becomes clear why Asshole sites like Business Insider which frequently plagiarizes Tyler is chock full of Advertisements. I know beyond a doubt ZH is not about financial gain ...or certainly not financial gain that resorts to cheating and exploitation of viewers and that is why I treasure this modern day Green Dragon Tavern. ZH in the coming year needs to split political views with financial. The truth is on our side and that can never be subtracted.
"Let us be clear no authority can take America to war without the consent of Congress"
- Ron Paul
don't blame me, i voted for Durden ;~)
DP
As did I. We must band together. We are winning. This is the first small battle as it relates to the reclaiming of America by and expulsion of the elites. When 2012 arrives ZH will have double the viewers and that I can assure you.
"You are a den of thieves and I intend to rout you all"
-A.Jackson
I could do without (his) cooler-than-thou, Eurofag detachment however. Like it doesn't matter. Obama mattered. Barney Frank matters. Booting the Dems could be a nice stepping stone to booting the GOP too you know.
911 conspiracy mongering isn't your strong suit either there captain. Why don't you give that a rest.
Frank is winning strongly in his race. And I never stated I believe 9/11 is a conspiracy in anything I have ever posted on here Mercury so what are you talking about?
Sorry for the non-clarity.
I was referring to "Tyler", the subtitle to this post and the opening salvo of some moon-bat 911 conspiracy series posted earlier today http://www.zerohedge.com/article/myth-twenty-first-century-0 which I personally don't think ZH has been particularly wise in having provided a venue for.
Just trying to be constructively critical.
Thanks for the clarification.I have seen enough that conspiracies actually are alive and present and occurring and only those on the beneficial end refute however I will state the following:
1. JFK was 100% murdered in a financial/organized crime/ Power strucuture coup within our own agencies the moment they realized he would not go to war in Vietnam and Cuba
2. RFK was killed before he could become President simply because it was easier to slip under the radar as a candidate than actual President. For proof see "David Morales CIA in LA"
3. The Gulf of Tonkin was staged
4. The U.S.S. Liberty is an equal crime to the above and was intended on the creation of motive for the U.S. to enter a war Vs the Arab states. There is more proof of this treason that the above mentioned acts.
5. Tim Mcveigh was certainly a patsy as evidenced by the Ryder Trucks at the FBI compound at a forest installation and the erasure of none less than 4 surveillance tapes at Oaklahoma at the exact same time which would have proven an accomplice
6. The Flash Crash was created by the Federal Reserve and PD's
7. 9/11 was not an inside job because we have all seen the extent that the elites will go to to protect Wall Street.However Building 7 was demolished and the incompetance of the intelligence community has been covered up.
The incompetance of the government generally should be the default starting point when examining such issues and the conspiracy crowd is too often willing to ascribe just the opposite (if malevolent) qualities I think.
I would certainly have a few "yeah, but...'s" for each of these although there's probably some (if mundane) truth to most of them.
But #6 is at least missing the big picture: equity market structure really is terribly fucked up and a conspiracy is not required to create this kind of thing (seems like there's an individual stock, mini-flash crash every other day now). The market structure got to this point in part via good intentions but if there's a conspiracy here it's the total lack of effort to fix the problem now that it's so blatantly obvious.
Zero Hedge is not a political blog. We prefer to deal with at least modestly empirical concepts. If you enjoy discussing trite political flights of fancy, there are thousands of other websites that will welcome your tremendous insight. If it is not obvious by now that politics without the financial backing of a banking oligarchy is completely irrelevant, there is little we can offer of value to you here.
Furthermore, let us know how soon after, per your implicit suggestion, we proceed to censor "geopol's" views, which agree or disagree with, have merit to be voiced, should we block you from ever commenting on Zero Hedge. We wouldn't want to be seen as being preferential when we start "politicizing" this site.
1. Non-relevant and trite political flights of fancy is more or less what I was objecting to and to the extent that I threw fuel on that fire I apologize although this particular comment section was an unusual and specific invitation to get a bit political - no?
2. Technically that's called editing not censoring.
3. Generally I think my commentary around here has been fairly constructive, not particularly abrasive and, dare I say, worthy of the larger ZH project which I support. If you (or especially Marla) feel otherwise, simply say the word, no 'block' will be necessary.
“Geopol’s views” ?
“Geopol” simply copy-and-pastes articles written by others; sometimes with attribution, sometimes without. Any original writings (read: scribbling) from “geopol” bear absolutely no resemblance to the writings of Webster Tarpley, PhD, an outspoken "Truther" (with his own website) whom "geopol" has claimed to be.
“If you enjoy discussing trite political flights of fancy…” ?
Sounds like the “Truthers” who have long had a disproportionate presence in the “contributors” section.
“We wouldn't want to be seen as being preferential when we start ‘politicizing’ this site.”?
Maybe another one is hiding somewhere, but the list of non-Democrat (non left-leaning) writers at ZH seems to be limited to “Econophile“.
“Since political commentary is most certainly not our strong suit…”
Agreed. Stick to the economy and credit markets, about which your knowledge and efforts are exemplary. Thanks very much, Tyler.
Wolfman,,
I may be mistaken but I believe Tyler can expand his horizons any way he see's fit without your guiding light..
P.S. Look at the entire exchange between me and Marla,,she's not your servant to be used as a rationale for CENSORSHIP you coward.
I can point to the multitude of posts that you have graced ZH with that elevated it beyond Tyler's narrow focus of .....I'll let you confine him,,as you are so adept..
The wolf,,,,you must be hiding,,,I'm not sure, but I don't think I have had any direct confrontation with you......Point counter Point,, Sit in the tall grass ...I'm waiting any response....PROCEED!!!
I'll engage you on any intellectual front you name...
For all ZH to observe!!! I'm waiting.................
With your overpraised diminished self...
I need to invoke my friend's speech on freedom of speech!!!!
To my adversaries,,,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6379618149058958603#
Although I encourage everyone to go ahead and do what they're going to do with regards to voting.
I, however, hereby begin my boycott of voting until I can know with a degree of mathematical certainty (IOW, applying the science of cryptography to reform the democratic aspects of our current system) it is not just a legitimization of fraud (in the very least). We should be able to vote at any time, on any line-item, referendum or citizen, be able to change our votes at any time, and have at least as sophisticated a system that the high-frequency traders get in and around Wall Street--the speed of light and all. . .
I have no doubt that "my voice" in this so-called democracy is actually, well, my voice. What I say. What I publish. What I pray.
I know enough about cryptography to understand that if we are genuinely serious about this whole voting thing, It could be entirely reformed by the next election. And if not by then, then the election after that.
Strong cryptography = Strong democracy. I know we live in a representative sort of model, but there is no one that can represent you better than yourself, or your proxy. No one can verify and certify your vote better than you. Completely transparently, yet anonymously.
If we really want to protect our domestic internetworking capabilities, and purportedly invest untold billions in dealing with cyber-security. Put those fuckers on high alert, we're open-sourcing the electioneering, and we're all going to get a piece of that action.
I should be able to officially vote on any legislation that is before congress. Let's turn the busy-bodies loose on this massive, stinking pile of excrement that has become this government. Bring it out of the horse and buggy days. Build the framework to be able to perform state constitutional conventions. Democracy is about getting the power closest to its true source, you.
Voting, or supporting a political party, a political group, a political ideology. . .anything political that does not square with a straight reading of the big-c constitution, which is supposedly why we go through all this bogus rigmarole.
I am now a political party of one. My party chairman is no longer some mere mortal, and I'm not even going to tell you who it is. My party's platform happens to resonate fully with its constituent's voices, and my candidate is pretty good at expressing my views. He will likely never be elected to office, nor receive a single vote, unless I went and wrote him in. But what would be the point of that?
By forming groups we separate our groups from the rest of the world. With odds like that, I'd just as well go solo. Keeps party infighting to a minimum.
decentralize,
bitchez. lol.
A system like that would only work if anyone who was a net beneficiary of the government (including government employees and contractors) were prevented from voting, and anyone could opt out of any government scheme or imposition imposed on them by this electronic rabble of yours. Also, anyone voting for war should be immediately shipped off to the front lines.
All sound like fine ideas. All thoseinfavorsay'aye'allopposed,
The aye's have it.
Neocons, pack you bags for the war-torn middle east. Congress is now adjourned until we figure out how we can continue as this seemed to be the last vote, although I hereby renounce all aspects of employment as it relates to the federal government, and as speaker since all you federal-funds-sucking scumbags in Congress, I'll suggest a quorum is not present, and that clerk need not bother calling the roll since I seem to be the only one on it, and I'll be 25' foot from the door having a nice smoke outside.
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Ezra Pound:
These elections are a circus. Our great democracy turned into the primary means of our enslavement. The underlying and fundamental war was lost by Bryan in the 60's (the other 60's).
In other words, I don't vote. Unless I get a vote at the Fed, there is nothing to vote for.
Meg tried to buy her way in. But her staff got in the way of that. adios Meg
She got a SSN, paid the taxes and still got hammered.
Lesson learned for all future pols?
Don't hire immigrants for anything.
That is what that frame up taught folks.
Carly Fiorina?
I cannot believe peoplea are even considering electing this fool. The amount of money this women spent on herself for private jets funded by HP and the job layoffs she resorted to in order to increase share value alone should make her a non contender. She is a classless woman if I have ever seen one totally undeserving of her compensation.