Mike Krieger Asks The Logical Question: "How Long Until Obama Starts Writing Checks"?

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Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:20 | 993878 Turd Ferguson
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More fantastic stuff, Mike.

I like you even though you live in Colorado.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:32 | 993935 Upswaller
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Turd, do you have to be first on everything?

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:37 | 993945 tmosley
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Do you have to complain about everything?

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:59 | 994023 Upswaller
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Hmmm, it was a tongue-in-cheek comment to those who understand him.

But that DID hurt my feelings.

<sarc/off>  better?

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 15:27 | 994185 Harmonious_Diss...
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The Max Keiser interview was beyond Awesome!! Very good analysis, and so it seems it's playing out. Well where do I go get my 'Bama Bucks?? (I will use them to increase my silver position)

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 15:25 | 994176 the mad hatter
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you've been turgled.


As for the article, obama already has. You can get unemployment checks for 2 whole years.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 15:29 | 994194 -Michelle-
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That's what I was going to say.  Isn't the real question "how long until Obama's checks start to bounce?"

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 16:01 | 994374 francis_the_won...
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Yes, my immediate reaction to the title of this post was that I thought that's what Obama has been doing since Day 1.  Stimulus Bill, Cash for Clunkers, Homebuyers credit, GM/Chrysler bailout....etc...

Funny thing, though......I haven't personally received a dime....although I did drive over a bridge that had a sign indicating that the Economic Recovery Act had somehow improved said driving experience.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 16:07 | 994404 XitSam
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And wasn't there a check for SS recipients because they didn't get a cost of living increase?

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 16:47 | 994605 Moe Howard
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They said so but I wonder. Did the old folks get it? Lying seems to be Number One with the Bankster Government.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 19:07 | 995080 Milestones
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Turgled?? Damn linguistics majors.    Milestones

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:38 | 993953 snakeboat
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and what, pray tell, is wrong with CO?  Might we be jealous?


that captcha made me use my hp...

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:47 | 993997 Turd Ferguson
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The Turd was born in Nebraska. Consequently, The Turd does not usually take kindly to Coloradoans, though he does make exceptions.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:56 | 994033 velobabe
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our football players, oh i mean gladiators, are all pusses and hussies.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 17:33 | 994805 snakeboat
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Ahhh, probably wouldn't like the outcome if his boys had to go up against any of those Rugby 7s guys, eh

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 22:04 | 995594 StychoKiller
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I lived in CO for 37 years, MN is like a freezer compared to CO!

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:46 | 993994 chet
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I think that quadrupling the unemployment period and giving everyone $400 was their attempt to write checks to people.  But I agree they might feel the pressure to do more at this point.

Bush and Obama each had an "original sin".  Bush with the bank bailout in 2008, and Obama with the decision in early 2009 to back it up with a Keynesian "spend to the moon" approach.  For a long long time, we'll be paying dearly for the decisions made in those six months.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 15:25 | 994181 Temporalist
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Poor Obama.  Poor Coloradans:

Residents wait up to 2 months for food assistance

"DENVER - Nearly 7,000 people in the City of Denver are waiting on approval for help from human services. Many of them are waiting for food assistance, formerly known as food stamps.

The Denver Department of Human Services is experiencing a backlog that is causing some people to wait up to 60 days for their cases to be processed"


Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:22 | 993884 asdasmos
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"I owe it to my grandparents (who fled Eastern Europe) and my mother (who fled Chile in the 1970’s)."


Maybe he owes it to them to do as they did and move somewhere prosperous.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 16:27 | 994508 margaris
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yep, indirectly you are saying we need another planet to colonize....


Because this planet is one mess! For average joe there is no real prosperity or freedom anywhere!

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 17:41 | 994826 asdasmos
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Not quite. I am indirectly saying...... GTFO of places where shit will hit the fan.


Suggested places to go:

Canada in NA

Costa Rica and the like in C&S A

Forget Africa in my opinion

Europe There are pockets of countires

Asia - Philippines/Australia/

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 18:20 | 994946 Dirtt
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Chile is on my short list also. 

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 17:02 | 994659 Dollar Damocles
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That makes sense to me too.  The more history I read, the more I think that you can't stop the tidal wave of change that is brought about by mass ideologies.  This isn't going to be pretty, and I don't see much to give me hope that things will be replaced by anything better when this titanic sinks.  History doesn't show too many successfull revolutions, and the American people have no good ideas to replace the plethora of bad ones that have created the current situation.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 17:34 | 994806 asdasmos
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Yes, definitely. People can only fight the inevitable for so long until nature/reality kicks in. I like to think we are in a new age of human development & thought, however I am always reminded at how things can turn ugly very quickly.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 18:00 | 994887 johnQpublic
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i wonder how long til a lone gunman hangs out down at wall street and pops a few bankers or traders at the end of the business day

prolly get a medal from the jury assigned to try him

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:22 | 993886 Saxxon
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Not long until he has to throw a bone to the unwashed masses in an attempt to hold power. 

The gas prices here (No. CA) have not spiked yet, and thus folks are looking their usual stunned, depressed selves (since 2005 here) but are not starting tire fires in the middle of Clayton Road (Concord).

Right soon even 87 Ethyl will surpass $3.99 and then the roiling will start.

I am not sure how he will work it in - can he force a Bill through to get relief checks cut before tax season?

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 15:26 | 994182 Boxed Merlot
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...he has to throw a bone to the unwashed masses in an attempt to hold power...


A few things to bear in mind.  We are a republic, a nation constructed on the voluntary rule of law, not a domocracy-mob ruled populace.


Our law enforcement officers are by and large our neighbors, they are not outsiders, and though we many times find fault in their use of assigned vested authority, they remain for the most part, our sons, fathers, relatives and friends.


Even our highniest elected officials remain just that, elected.  Contrary to the notion many representatives from "safe" districts may beleive, these positions are still temporary and adherance to their authority remains a voluntary act by the constituencies they affect.


While I may have a dog in this fight in that there are some family deeded mineral rights in CA mother lode property with known reserves, it's through that knowledge I'm more firmly convinced in the relevance of intrinsically valuable coinage and government non interest bearing notes issued for use as legal tender.


The idea that our government would abdicate their authority to properly establish weights, measures and sound currency by placing it in the hands of the Jekyl Islanders and in one fell swoop establish a new class of "American", that being "taxpayer" is unforgivable.


The reset is simple, our road map is clear and the real question is whether our current batch of elected officials will even bother to read it, yet alone use it.


Thu, 02/24/2011 - 15:44 | 994258 KickIce
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And that's why they have passed legislation that allows Interpol to participate in martial law.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:24 | 993893 John Wilmot
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I was under the impression the good king was taking a dirt nap...no? Didn't the Teleprompter murder him via telephone?

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:22 | 993894 hpprinter000
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UK needs onegoodcut.org !

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:23 | 993895 Matt
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At first glance, I thought the title was "How long till Obama starts kiting checks".

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:29 | 993912 centerline
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LOL.  But, I would have to fix that title of course...

"How long can Obama keep kiting checks"

There.  Much better.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:30 | 993916 Bearster
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The US began "writing checks" under FDR, and has grown the programs consistently since then.  We have food stamps, welfare payments under various programs, housing assistance, electricity bill assistance, subsidized transportation in cities, etc etc etc.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 15:07 | 994086 Captain Kink
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Crockett's "Not Yours to Give"  a must read for everyone here.  I take this from another ZHer, with gratitude, and encourage all to share it with as many as they can.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 16:18 | 994458 RockyRacoon
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Glad you liked it.  It's one of my favorite responses to those who would dispense tax dollars to anyone with a pulse.   It ain't their job to spend my money that they took without asking.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 16:43 | 994583 Miss Expectations
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I like the Davy Crockett tax story, too.  But, I don't much like his hat.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 22:33 | 995677 RockyRacoon
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Well, I have an issue with it too, but that was long ago in a different world.

I just hope those hats don't become de rigueur again.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 22:11 | 995609 StychoKiller
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"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong ...somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. ...I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ...And an enormous debt to boot."
   Henry Morgenthau ( U.S. Secretary of Treasury 1937)

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:51 | 994010 Mad Max
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The US has been kiting checks for decades.  Obama has simply taken it to a higher level.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:23 | 993896 Confused
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Great read. Great quote. 

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:24 | 993901 patience...
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People sure get generous when they see a guillotine being rolled out.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:31 | 993925 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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""People sure get generous when they see a guillotine being rolled out.""

...If and when the day comes U.S. citizens get fed up with Washington, Wall Street and the Federal Reserve....you have the template for success. ""The Beast of Government exists on tax revenues.  ALL governments share this fundamental reality.  ALL governments fail when the economic capacity to tax is destroyed.   The Soviet Union fell via this mechanism, East Germany fell via this mechanism, and now Egypt has fallen via this mechanism. 
No blood and no lawlessness were required.""

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 16:07 | 994403 ronin12
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Do they really need to collect taxes when The Bernank can just print the money?

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 17:04 | 994670 Moe Howard
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That is a tax of course. It needs no action on your part. Just hold FRNs. The more he prints, the more you are taxed. Quite simple, really.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 17:12 | 994702 naughtius maximus
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Very good question and the answer to it will determine if we become Zimbabwae or 1930's america without a government that has any credit!

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:24 | 993902 wandstrasse
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i wish we had some fortress of reason like zh here in germany. but we have only 'everything fine', dark conspiracy theories, and some dull professors saying 'if only the world would do what we are telling'.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:26 | 993906 midtowng
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Obama can't write checks without Congress, and the Republicans won't let him.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:41 | 993966 TBT or not TBT
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They're whistling past the graveyard here.   100bil off of a budget that's 1.6trillion in deficit is jsut a bad joke.    We need to cut the federal payroll by a third at least.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 14:43 | 993983 Don Birnam
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Thu, 02/24/2011 - 15:01 | 994049 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Nope too late. As interest rates rise (and they will, sooner than later--see Buiter's article from last year), the USA's ability to pay down debt will immediately evaporate.


Won't make a difference, even a few points and any pay down is extinguished by the increase in debt servicing.


ah the glories of compound interest and simple math...

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