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Mike Krieger On Intensifying Police State Measures And Internet Demonization
Submitted by Mike Krieger from KAM LP
Police State Measures Intensify as well as Internet Demonization
Two very important articles have come out in the last couple of days that you must take the time to read thoroughly. The first is from the Washington Post and is entitled: “Monitoring America.” It is a lengthy article worth your time since it shows in no uncertain terms how the U.S. government has now officially started to turn war on terror technology and military weaponry on American citizens domestically. Stuff that had formerly only been “used in Iraq or Afghanistan” is now being turned on Americans and this newspaper reports it in a matter of fact manner. It also describes how anyone can just say that they think a fellow citizen is acting suspiciously and then all of a sudden the government’s “fusion centers” start snooping on you and a file remains “open” for five years. For nothing more than someone saying they thought you were acting suspiciously. Welcome to East Germany. This is where tax dollars are going, that and to pay bankster bonuses. Link is below.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/monitoring-america/?hpid=topnews
Second article also encompasses and interview with Attorney General Eric Holder. In it he clearly explains that enemy number one is the domestic America citizen and that is where the war on terror is now focused. This is exactly as I predicted earlier this year. That the “war on terror” would be soon revered onto average everyday citizens. Ok, so how about this one. In the interview, Holder talks about Anwar al-Awlaki and talks about how this guy is enemy number 1 now and as dangerous as Bin Laden. Well, interesting because this guy was invited to DINE AT THE PENTAGON after 9/11. This is a fact. It was reported by all the mainstream news sources. See these links on it….
Anwar al-Awlaki - the radical spiritual leader linked to several 9/11 attackers, the Fort Hood shooting, and the attempted Christmas Day bombing of an airliner - was a guest at the Pentagon in the months after 9/11, a Pentagon official confirmed to CBS News.
Awlaki was invited as "...part of an informal outreach program" in which officials sought contact "...with leading members of the Muslim community," the official said. At that time, Awlaki was widely viewed as a "moderate" imam at a mosque in Northern Virginia.
This is what Holder said today about him: "He's an extremely dangerous man. He has shown a desire to harm the United States, a desire to strike the homeland of the United States," Holder said. "He is a person who -- as an American citizen -- is familiar with this country and he brings a dimension, because of that American familiarity, that others do not."
CBS reports
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/10/21/national/main6978200.shtml
MSNBC reports
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39768584/ns/us_news-security/
Fox News Reports
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/20/al-qaeda-terror-leader-dined-pentagon-months/
So our government is so trustworthy on intelligence that we had the most dangerous terrorist in the world over for dinner at the Pentagon! So either we are really retarded beyond belief or the whole “WAR ON TERROR” is a total SHAM to place in the police state. More on the interview with Holder, he is consistently demonizing the internet with statements like.
“"The ability to go into your basement, turn on your computer, find a site that has this kind of hatred spewed ... they have an ability to take somebody who is perhaps just interested, perhaps just on the edge, and take them over to the other side," he said.”
Full article here: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/attorney-general-eric-holders-blunt-warning-terror-attacks/story?id=12444727&page=1
This is all good news and bad news. The good news is that the global plantation owners would not be moving so aggressively unless they were losing the info war. Clearly they are, which is why they are freaking out. The next thing that is likely to happen is a false flag attack where the “attacker” ends up being a libertarian with a Ron Paul sticker. That way they can move from Al Awlaki to the folks they are really afraid of: Good caring and armed American people that still have the capacity to think rationally.
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Fatherland would be better.
Homeland and czars, never liked either word applied here in US at all...
Actually, they are outright banning books. I saw the Chief of Police (can't find the video online) say, "If you write a book, we will take that book, and you will be arrested." It was stunning. Obviously he was referring to the abhorrant act of pedophilia, but what about the "abhorrant" act of protecting our liberties at all costs?
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_polk/pedophilia-book-author-to-be-booked-at-polk-county-jail
destroying all children's books printed before 1985.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/23/AR200903...
They care about lead in books, but not about mercury in vaccines or fluoride, chromium, etc in kids water.
this entire world has been
C H I L D P R OO F ed
what a scam. takes a genius anymore, to open shit.
Duh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZDKZZp0YUI
The tip-toe-steps to total world fascism... easily done when you have a dumb, apathetic, materialistic populous who are incapable of critical thinking. No where to run to when you have a world-wide fascist government... we are not too far off the planned New World Order now.
The wit and wisdom of Bill Hicks and George Carlin would be welcome about now.
I envy both of them.
R.I.P.
I am going to start reporting everyone, and I suggest that you all do the same, so that the system immediately becomes overwhelmed and pointless. When every single person is on their roles the database become useless. Report every politician, banker, religious leader/preist/imam/rabbi/nun, government employee, doctor, nurse, EMS, FEMA, TSA and teacher first so that they get the message quickly.
+100.....Mmmmm no +1000....
Hyperinflation?
What kind/s of dumbfuck would flag you for saying Hyperinflation??
Freaky..........
Obviously the same hide-in-the-closet ahole that just flagged me for asking......
Let me try; 'Dumb-fuck!'
...and waiting, and waiting...
fool me once, twice, ah hell do it once more.
As we report others we inevitably report ourselves, so maybe thats not such a good idea.
Report your enemies anonymously!
Pizzaman delivered a cold pizza!
Couldn't get a dialtone.
Grocery man misplaced the oranges.
Garbage man missed a can.
So many infractions, so little time!
man, when i lived (shortly) in santa fe MEXICO. i would see drug deals, domestic abuse right next door. call the cops, no one comes. go to the police station and tell them about the deals i would see go down. hey madam, no problem, we protect these generation old herion dealing families, you know they been around for a very very long time.you, two months, JUNKED†
stop calling us.
True story:
Years ago, lived in a neighborhood that took us years to get crack dealers off streets. Gunfire heard nightly before that. Skip to five years later. Dealers being let out of jail. Guy on skateboard on corner two doors down from my house dealing on corner. Called police, "guy is dealing crack on corner". Police, "how do you know?" Me, "cars pull up, give him money, he gives crack back" Police, "Well that is no proof, take videos for us and send them to us"
My garage is broken into twice a month later. Cops,"oh, bet i know who it is, they let him out of jail" Me, "why don't you go pay him a visit and get my stuff back then." Police, "oh, we couldn't do that"
Two weeks later, I have my car in back alley, packing car for camping trip. Private alley for residents only. Police car cutting through, not on a call, just cruising around. Stops to yell at me for "blocking traffic" and wants to give me ticket.
yeah, i am aware now to this discrimination. why i was just at Lolita's shopping, 5AM and Henry tells me he had 5 police, sheriffs, city etc. just standing around the coffee pot for an hour. nothing to do. cept when dumb ass girl's give you back your money instead of change and call the police on you. boy they are down in two seconds. then do a sweep threw your the neighborhood for character reference's because i use cash, all the time. she is probably a money laundering person. whore, drug dealer, something is not right here. woman buying art and paper and ribbons with cash. crime of the century.
.....smartest idea i've heard ! OVERWHELM the SYSTEM / CLOWARD & PIVEN ! I'll get the ball rolling by reporting someone VERY SUSPICIOUS !!! Eric Holder !! See how he likes it. & let's just add in JANET NAPOLITANO !! SHE SURE LOOKS SUSPICIOUS ! .........anyone who puts her face on T.V. @ WALMART has got to be up to NO GOOD !
Sounds like a PLAN, and one that would get you put away quickly, in the dark of night.
Fear not the Night,fear what hunts in the Night.
Dos you are one of the last people I would think would worry about being put away. I appreciate your concern but again if everyone reports themselves and everyone they know the "information" will be rendered useless.
I fear nothing; I have nothing to fear.
I am turning in my wife AND kids + the dog and two Hens (they have had strange cackles recently) at once. Solves quite a few problems for me...
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I agree. Control of information and the building of a domestic control infrastructure is increasing at a frightening pace.
Where are the liberal voices who freaked out under Bush? This is their administration, it is ten times worse, and they're silent. This is a concern for everybody. The common thread is the economic devastation that's been created over the last ten years. The Federal Reserve has taken control of policy, foreign and domestic, without accountability and has run amok.
Little wonder that our government is afraid of what may follow. Yes, they're afraid, but they should be stopping this economic coup by controlling the unelected Fed and the banksters!
I consider myself pretty liberal, at least on the majoirty of social issues, not so much fiscally, I won't lie: I voted for Obama. I also voted for Bush, the first time. I don't mistakes twice.
On behalf of the Republican Party, I'd like to thank you in advance for your vote in 2012.
The problem is there is no candiate in the field in both parites i like. Rand Paul, are you hearing this. Paging Rand Paul, you won me over on election night and your speech moved me, please run.
Keep an eye on Marco Rubio in the years coming...
Rubio will fall in line. He is just a politician. I thought Obama was different. Maybe he still is. Time isnt up. But I like Rand Paul. Everyone here should know, I'm 30, and most of my generation is disaffected but wants a leader. Not a facist. Not a socialist. A real American leader, like Eisenhower, or FDR, or TR, or A Jackson. someone. People may think we are iPhone fools; we're not. we're defeated but hopeful. I hate using we. I speak for me, sorry.
Me too.</AOL>
Italy, Belgium, Malaysia, Costa Rica, Panama. A lot of people have already left.
Indeed. Watching this entire circus act from my ringside seat in Singapore.
I knew I shouldn't have subscribed to ZH. Now I've been marked.
heh heh heh...I can't wait to meet all of you at camp this summer.
Do you think we'll get to do crafts?
I don't know, but I hear there will be water-skiing...or something like that.
Oh yeah? Well, Tyler Durden has been acting suspiciously HEY I WAS KIDDING NO NO I WAS JUST KIDDING!!!!!
I head straight to the FBI office in my city and inform on myself, everyday. They buy me donuts.
years ago i was younger and on the road outside of New Orleans near the end of the day. I walked up to the prison and got locked up for the night for disturbing the peace in a police office. Best nights sleep i had in a while.
Was in same prison a few years before, spent one night before the MPs come and got me. Almost got killed that night. There were at least 10 others in the cell and an attempt to harm or rob me was made later that night. It was assumed i was asleep. Good thing i wasnt. I made it to the am without harm and count my blessings
merehuman, you should write an autobiography.
And you are right about counting your blessings. That is part of my Resolution in the coming year.
You grow up and you calm down
You're working for the clampdown
You start wearing the blue and brown
You're working for the clampdown
So you got someone to boss around
It makes you feel big now
You drift until you brutalize
You made your first kill now
"The next thing that is likely to happen is a false flag attack where the “attacker” ends up being a libertarian with a Ron Paul sticker. That way they can move from Al Awlaki to the folks they are really afraid of: Good caring and armed American people that still have the capacity to think rationally."
They tried this once already... it might have been a test run though...
Joe Stack, ring a bell?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJoBaJ7XY9Q
Yea exactly. Soon we'll see some major govt building bombed and theyll have all the info on the perpetrator within a half hour as usual, same with 9-11 where they found the hijackers passports down on the sidewalk. He'll of course have an american flag, some Ron Paul bumper stickers, shocking footage will be shown of a framed US Constitution in his home and a Bible on the shelf...meet Public Enemy #1, and that will happen any day now.
If Eric Holder is so concerned about domestic terrorism & such, then why didn't they go after Sharron (2nd Amendment remedies) Angle? Or some of those other tea partiers? WTF?
Really? Really?? Really???? Obviously you don't like Sharon Angle and that's not hard to figure as she was a real moron as it took a real moron to get beat by Harry Reid but you think she should be rounded up along with other tea partier's for what exactly, their political ideology? Is that what your advocating? Sounds like you prefer the systems of Iran, Cuba, old USSR, China, Venezuela etc... Well be careful because the next folks in charge may not like your politics and start knocking on your door. What is the old saying about be careful what you wish for?
Creating this surveillance state is very dangerous for its creators. Just wait till the financial/demographic crisis prompts a military coup, and the tea party crowd gets its hands on the surveillance computers and data - then it will be payback time.
This apparatus they are building is an unguided missile in flight, as its creators can never guarantee that people like themselves will always remain at the controls.
What country are YOU from?.
Free Speech is still in effect.........at least today.
Mindsets, and comments like you made, disturb the hell out of 90% of Americans.
What the hell did she do to be considered a terrorist?.
Or the Tea Party?.
Why do you think the 2nd Amendment was a part of our founding documents?.
Deer hunting?.
Fucktard troll. Why isn't Holder investigating you for being a dipshit?
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I'm bored
That is beautiful.
thanks. took me a while. didn't mean it to offend anyone it was just one of those days.
Okay, you rotten little scumbags. You are not heeding your patriotic responsibilities. Sell all your silver and go buy shares of Netflix, Apple, Google, and Amazon immediately. For those that can't let go of their hoard, well, it's time to send these suspicous people up to Washington for covert FBI investigations, where jail time will surely follow.
BTW, if anyone thinks JPM's little "leak" wasn't just a little bit of b.s. spin is out of their fucking heads. Anyone really think they just "leaked" this little bit of information out there? Get real.
They're doing exactly the opposite. Through structured vehicles, they are shorting silver like there is no tomorrow. They will do anything to try to get out of the trade at a profit.
Simply a defensive posture to keep the sheeple in line as the debasements continue.
Also, 5th arm of the military? Telecommunications companies. That slick 3-4g phone you have, well it sends out a passive gps ping to the provider every 10 minutes on or off. AND since you spent hundreds on it, you're likely to have it on your person right now.
Yep, as a naval intelligence veteran friend of mine said some years back, "Don't worry we always know where Arafat is each time he turns on his cell phone."
And they can turn on the speakerphone remotely and listen to all the conversations in the room, even when the phone is off.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/12/can_you_hear_me.html
Ok that is true, Digital receivers /transponders have that ability.
Microsoft turns on my computer and wi-fi as I sleep so they can "update" my system.
What they update I have no knowledge but they sure download a lot of stuff from my hard drive when they are improving my systems security.
I don't mind, I keep two hard drives, Their one and my one
And the sheeple are certainly lining up:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20101221/D9K8HTGG0.html
The Government knows that the economy is only going to get worse and needs new ways to deal with angry masses that were gainfully employed that are now on bread rations when they cut off the bread rations.
like taking our guns away...
http://www.ammoland.com/2010/12/18/supreme-court-justice-fires-warning-s...
So that dickwad has a book - "How to make Democracy work"
I suggest he read "Animal Farm" and hang his head in shame.
In Ireland, the Minister for Justice Dermot Aherne made a similar suggestion re:cash, that it was used by criminals, something to that effect, and that having large amounts of it in circulation would encourage crime-so he proposed an ATM tax-so every time you go to the hole in the wall and get some cash out, you would get a 'penalty' fee smacked on.
This idea went down politically like the Hindenberg, thank God. But that he would suggest something like that really made me think about why the govt would want that-ever since then, I pay for just about everything in cash, even if it's just a lipgloss, and make a point of taking large amounts out of the ATM so I always have cash around when I need it.
Also took a bunch out and bought some gold coins. They're pretty.....
A rebel wearing lip gloss? Nice to see some females among the rebellious rabble. :>)
lip gloss isn't just for woman only, colored lip gloss, probably.
Buy some silver too in case you hadn't heard.
Government will conceal while price charts/supply will reveal.
Meh. What makes yoiu think things are any different than they ever were? What makes you think they are getting worse? The government used to draft people right out of high school into the military. They could send you to a foreign land to die by the thousands (and they did). They censored public media, rounded up entire races of people and held them in camps for the duration of a war, conducted medical experiments on prisoners, conducted radiation experiments on soldiers, legalized slavery, used germ warfare and forced marches on native people, made and broke treaties to benefit themselves, blacklisted people who spoke against them, defaulted on promises to pay in gold (twice). The list is endless.
You were never free. Stop deluding yourselves.
You may have a point here...
Ironically, we are probably more free now than we ever have been. The problem isn't Government, it's keeping the criminal element out of Government.
There was far more libertry in this land under George III.
The revolution was not about liberty, it was about money, as those sorts of things always are.
But taxes, or money as you say, impinge on freedoms. Money is about liberty too as slavery is free labor, similarly if the govt. taxes most of your income you are only part slave. When taxes get invasive, as the stamp tax was, people will rebel. And because the people could not represent themselves to fight the Stamp Act they had no means of disputing it once in effect. That was "Taxation Without Representation."
No, that's not the problem either. The problem is getting more people to realize what freedom is and how valuable their freedom is.
The power your entrust to me will be used to secure a safe and prosperous society.
The Matrix is the new 1984!
The gubmint's now got its tentacles into regulating the Internet... of course it is for our own good!
BTW, has anyone seen the movie The Lives of Others?
I saw that recently-great movie. Frighteningly familiar, parts of it, too.
The really stupid thing is that in the end it will not be a terrorist attack that destroys this country. It will be the huge fraud that Tavakoli talks about. Add wikileaks to get people to realize that the conspiracy guys were at least partially right and Obama who broke faith with the people and there you have, no faith left in the gov't because it has been captured by capitalists/banker cabal. Domestic terror Americanized. Either on purpose or by stupidity it really won't matter what a bunch of fanatics Muslims do
If you hear something, denounce someone.
http://thepeoplescube.com/images/OnStar_Obama_Flag.gif
Time to remove the ROn paul sticker.
Honestly, is there another country to move to? I am now seriously considering it.
If you have $150,000 or more that you can take with you, Singapore and Peru come to mind.
I have heard that Uruguay and Chile are nice places too. You need more than $150,000 to move to Costa Rica now.
While it would certainly be nice to have the amount (or more) that DoChen references, I just want to reassure you that it's entirely possible to live quite comfortably in SE Asia, including Singapore, for significantly less than 150K in the bank. I'm splitting my time between Malaysia and Singapore, with the occasional trip elsewhere just for fun, and I've got nowhere NEAR that kind of cash. Don't be dissuaded by a monetary requirement.
Either start a business, or start working on a work visa. Perfectly doable, especially if you're degreed and computer literate. Medical professionals are also welcomed just about anywhere, so get to work on that RN or MD credential if that's your gig.
Just went and got passports for my all my kids last week. I may be a little paranoid, but I am to the point where I am at least LOOKING at my options. Everywhere has it's pros and cons, but Australia and New Zealand are high on my list. They still have their petty bureaucrats but the size and scope are nothing compared to the US. Both seem to have retained at least a modicum of fiscal sanity. And Oz's real estate bubble is due for a good pop in the next year or three. Perfect timing for a new immigrant to buy some land.
The big power elites (Bushes, et al) have their safe havens in the free-er Latin American countries like Uruguay. Not sure how that works out though for us little guys who can't by 10,000+ acres of prime land.
You just buy the 5 acres that are next to the 10,000.
And so it is! Tyranny has come to America! We are witnessing the slow but certain death of liberty in the United States!
Slow?
You'll know the end is near when Jello Biafra registers as a Republican.
Funny how we are all led to believe that Republicans are the most conservative and want to legislate morality (which I believe by the way) and the Democrats are for personal freedoms and liberal yet including this nonsense I can recall another move led by Tipper and Al Gore to "protect" everyone from the content of movies and music. The same argument was made then as now that if an unstable guy watched a movie or listened to a song that had violence in it they would act out that violence on the world thus they needed to protect all Americans from this potential evil. These are things I would expect Republican to do, but in fact it's the liberals doing this. Moral to the story is that we can't trust any political party. They are all about usurping money, information, freedoms etc.. from the people and keeping it for themselves as a way to enslave. We are doomed at the hands of our own government. Ben Franklin must be spinning in his grave.
You junk me, JUNK YOU pal!
If we could hook an electrical generator to Ben Franklin's grave, I'm fairly sure we could harness that kinetic energy to power the entire national grid. There'd still be plenty of Gigawatts to send to Alberta to crack the coal tar and give us lots of free gasoline out of the deal.
that's as good of an idea as anyone has had
look at the propaganda against our food just so they can scare us into food control
http://www.marlerblog.com/
The next step will be gun confiscation.
They're welcome to confiscate my guns as soon as I run out of ammo.
+ 700 rounds 7.62 x 39
+ 600 rounds 9mm
Nope, next step is immigration reform ... if I could only remember the catchy name they have now given that ... [Edit: The DREAM Act]
Bravo, Mr. Krieger!
Turn out the lights, the party's over.
I don't see a problem with that. Darkness and shadow are the natural habitat of the revolutionary.
Heh heh. True that.
ZH seems to be getting more paranoid each passing day. My guess is, now with the market firmly moving higher and likely to do so throughout 2011, conspiracy theories are the way to go here.
Did you read the articles? It's not like he's making things up. How is discussing a statement from the AG "paranoia?"
HarryWanger rarely, if ever, reads the articles, he is too busy switching avatars to do such trivial nonsensical things as study! He is beyond economic study! However, studying "perma bears".....
Harry is a Tyler invention just like Robo.. I think Tyler likes to test..
HarryWanger is long on lube.
Too bad the banks don't use it.
Blythe got whips, chains, and masks for the Harrys of the world.
Go read a book.
-1 Harry, your remarks seem a little suspicious to me.
Something hairy about him.
'fess up; you write for the Onion, don't you Harry?
At least I feel safer. And finally, someone thought of the children!
Poor Americans!
You now live what Greeks lived 35 years ago when the Socialist Regime gained power.
Sweet Dreams in your Socialist paradise.
Wait until they hear you say something they consider suspicious at church, an NRA meeting, a veterans group or even Boy Scouts for that matter.
Not only will the individual come under investigation, but the entire organization as well.
And wait until you see a pastor, who has spoken out against homesexuality, get prosecuted for a hate crime.
Why are they looking at me? Was it something i said?
Structured thought for a structured society.
I'm sorry ... we (or leaders) are retarded beyond belief ... thanks, I will use this from now on
I live in a very Progressive Lib County. The first thing the Commissars cut when they realized that the budget was upside down was public library hours and park access. Not some of the many superfluous gov't hacks; not the $1000 food cost of "meetings", not the free County autos and gas cards.
Did you feign the appropriate level of surprise for the watchers?
-sigh- I guess we'll all have to learn to wear our Happy Face for The Peoples' Justice blank look. This whole double-think thing is going to be a major pain in the ass, I just know it.
I don't know whether to take acting classes or audit the law school courses where they teach you how to lie and speak volumes without revealing a thing.
Why choose? This is America! You can do it all and put it on your plastic! Let the kids pay it off.
I basically hate myself.
I used to think that the old bumper sticker "We're spending our childrens' inhertance", was soooo funny...
Develop the "poker face" for the folks come to your door begging for your remaining morsels . Hungry in the Hamptons as owners fear to leave their home, or begging that find their homes raided and burned by the unwashed starving hordes.
Bidness opportunity - Rent a Wreck. For a small monthly charge, we'll bring over a clunker and put it up on blocks in your driveway. Yes we have luxury models available for the more toney parts of town, for, ahem, a few dollars more per month.
"It is one of the things that keeps me up at night," Holder said. "You didn't worry about this even two years ago -- about individuals, about Americans, to the extent that we now do. And -- that is of -- of great concern."
"The threat has changed from simply worrying about foreigners coming here, to worrying about people in the United States, American citizens -- raised here, born here, and who for whatever reason, have decided that they are going to become radicalized and take up arms against the nation in which they were born," he said.
...."for whatever reason".....no need to comment on that.....
....perhaps some folks are getting "radicalized" due to our government's illegal activities whch are only in support of a few special interest groups, some of whom are foreign governments?
...we live in interesting times...for example the SEC announces today they will be investigating fraud by Chinese companies....this coming from a group that could not detect a Bernie Madoff, operating in NYC, even after they received letters telling them exactly what he was up to....
could not detect a Bernie Madoff, operating in NYC, even after they received letters telling them exactly what he was up to....
Sad and funny.
I used to believe that the public would never acquiesce to permitting a camera in every intersection; forcible disrobing in an airport terminal; holiday roadblocks at the mall; warrantless wiretaps...the erosions of privacy and liberty seem to go on ad infinitum. What has become of my countrymen ? Of the uniquely ( or, at least it was ) independent American spirit ? Today, "Don't tread on me" is deemed counterculture and expressive contraband by the Central Government.
I fear the backs of the majority of Americans have been broken. Apathy has set in. So long as their iGadgets and 54" LCD televisions are left sacrosanct, they are only too willing to be mushed under the shod foot of Government.
I just got a Citation on my Trash Can. It did not have a lid. The Fine was $600. Went to the Kangaroo Court and the gave me a break and lowered it to $50. Like I should be grateful. I would like to Appeal the decision but it would cost me $150. for a non refundable filing fee. And get this with the same Orginization of Zoning, not an actual Court. Except they have 5 people that will tell you to pay the fine. If you lose you have to file an Appeal with the District Court, which will cost more Money. All of this over a Trash Can Lid. I mean really, the lid blows off your trash can and you are fined $200. Or the compliance "Officers" remove them and give you a fine.
I continue to replace the Trash cans with lids but they disappear by magic.
Yep, Police State.
Claymore in bottom, string to lid. Badda boom, badda bleed.
"Kaboom Rico? Yes Rico, Kaboom." .......
"Bad Mr Choo, you're in for a big time out!"
Chain them together....duh.
Get a cheap digital security camera and see if you can catch them in the act of stealing the lid. Would make great prime time footage as well as provide evidence for suing the city.
Full restitution plus punitive damages bitchez....
I do not live in the property. They always pick on Landlords. Try to control your tenants putting the lids on their trash cans when they do not get the fine.
I thought about putting a GPS on the Trash Can and Lid but I think it would be too expensive. I would like to put up a surveillance camera but not living there I am not sure how to monitor it. Ideas are welcome.
Build a proper burn pit and burn your trash out back. What does not burn gets cleaned out and loaded into the truck and haul downtown to the city dump for a few dollars disposal into the big roll offs.
Have you seen the mountains of trash in Italy as the basic services failed while there was trouble over there?
Pray you never see mountains of trash here where you live.
The simplest solution is to punch a hole in the lid and can and chain them together. They will always be a couple...happily ever after.
Where are you generally located?
Moving toward a police state? My kind old mother thinks so after she was questioned by her local Canada Post employee on the contents of her suspicious package she was sending to India. What was in it? Correspondence with the poor child she was donating money toward, one of her favourite charities.
I was driving through a community near where I live. Not going anywhere, just driving around (I was scouting a bike route) when two police pulled me over. They didn't explain why. They asked if they could search my car and being vaguely amused I said sure. They found nothing. They searched my person and found nothing. I never asked what they were doing, I really just wanted to see what they would offer without prompting. Then, they told me I could go. No explanation offered. Nothing at all. They were very nice about it but they didn't bother giving a reason. Clearly they didn't have one. They just did as they liked.
My dad was a cop for 14 years. He then did 5 years in Vietnam training cops there. Then he taught cops in a local community college for another 20 years. He always said, say away from cops.
I've no idea what they were thinking. Their training is scary. They are more like paramilitary than police now. I guess I ran across one of their undocumented check points they maintain along the road. Interesting, as I had no idea such things exist. Useful knowledge.
They are playing a game. Practicing for the day the check points go up for real. It is an interesting game but now I'm watching. That is not what they wanted but it is how the game will go forward.
I was pulled over by highway patrol just outside Waco, TX and immediately asked to get in the back of the cop car. I had my demented mother with me taking her to my house in Arkansas. I was driving a black denali xl at the time and after after about 20 minutes the cop finally started asking me questions and it went along the lines of pulled you over as I have to wonder why a young guy like you is driving such an expensive vehicle and obviously not working. I was shocked. He said that we have lots of drug runners and my car fit the profile. I didn't get a ticket as I wasn't doing anything wrong but I got a warning for driving in the left lane of a highway even though I was driving the speed limit and an 18 wheeler was on my right and the cop was behind me. If I would've sped up then I would've gotten a speeding ticket and the cop wasn't letting me slow down. It was unbelievable and eye opening experience
This may already be old news, but... Chilling. Haven't seen this in a while, not since 1989 or so.
Metro Police started randomly inspecting bags
http://www.wtop.com/?sid=2208581&nid=25
It's perfectly normal. Noone who is a decent, law-abiding citizen has anything to worry about. You should be PROUD your were selected for a random search. Maybe the officers should hand out stickers to the lucky selectees...
It felt like if he wanted me to be a drug dealer he could've made me one without any problem what so ever.
I was unreasonably searched today. [American Flag background]
No, really. Get a strip of hundreds of little 2-inchers and head to the airport.
"Want a sticker?" as sheep walk in.
Of course the TSA super would want you arrested...fun!
Or, "Janet wants to see my crotch."
That is the sad and scary part! Mr.& Mrs. Average are happy to oblige and do whatever measures are necessary as long as it makes them feel a tiny bit more safer.
It is so freaky reading the posts that accurate reflect my own experiences. Another country and probably another time, but your dad sounds like my uncle. He did a stint as a policeman and he told his sister (my mum) at the time that he had to leave the force or end up becoming a criminal.
I haven't experienced anything as bad with the police since I was a naughty teenager, and even then I remember a sympathetic old constable worried about how an obviously drunken young lad would get home. These days, my car, my clothes, my whole demeanour screams establishment so I doubt I'd ever get stopped for no reason. But you're right, the police are becoming more paramilitary - some of the young ones seem to have a disconnected attitude - They watch far too much American cop shows and go around referring to members of the public as "Civilians", when they are actually supposed to be a civilian police force. If I had my way, all policemen would wear bright cheerful clown outfits, because if you dress someone up like a storm trooper, that's precisely what they will emulate.
Live on the US/Canadian boarder. I get pulled over a least once a month by our Dept. of Homeland Security. I now carry a copy of the ACLU's guidelines on my car dash, it outlines what they can and cannot do, and the time frames that are reasonable for them to run my passport. As soon as the rollers go on, I call my family and let them know I am being pulled over, I keep the cell phone open, unless ordered to disconnect (which has happened once).. I record the Officers ID number, name and the time of the pullover, document everything in a note book and make sure the officer is aware of the ACLU's printout.... I am very polite (extremely respectful and friendly, smile etc...) and give them just what they are legally entitled to... My passport... I am not required to tell them were I am going and I refuse (in a very nice respectful way....). I also have my congressman's phone number and address with the procedure to file a government employee complaint with said congressman, these complaints whether justified or frivolous remains in the employee's record for all of their career... This causes alot of "internal paperwork" that the supervisors, and up the chain of command don't appreciate...
If they choose to exercise "poor judgement" in "handling me" they will pay in "spades" (think of a bull dog with her teeth wrapped around your leg)!!!!
Young Pups trying to intimidate me, NOT, they can kiss my old wrinkled ass(I won't be more specific about were on my ass, but leave it to your imagination!!), I have bath towels older then most of them....
Got a link for the ACLU print out so we don't have to hunt for it?
TIA
I think this might be what he referred to.
news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/aclu/kyrengaclu.pdf
Scary stuff. Makes me want to get as far 'off the grid' as possible.
Yup. I took a 45 minute trip down an Interstate today. Saw no less than 8 State Police cars, all of them with people pulled over. Late in the month, they have to write tickets to make sure their paychecks don't bounce.
Banana republic for sure. Checkpoints, soon you will need to bribe the police to let you through so you can work. F it! Glad I am almost totally off grid at homestead now. Getting rid of any "city" property or interests as I write. And re-looking at relocation alternatives very seriously again. I am feeling like pre-WWII German right now.
If your in 'here' you're not very far off the grid.
Just sayin'.