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Mike Krieger Interviewed
You read his weekly articles on Zero Hedge, now here if your chance to listen to Mike Krieger interviewed by Future Money Trends. Among the now topical issues discussed are the debt ceiling, QE3, geopolitical instability, US and global economies, $100 silver (as well as the recenty take down of the metal), market manipulation and much more, as well s Krieger's several proposed scenarios for the future.
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(Reuters) - European clearinghouse LCH.Clearnet confirmed on Saturday it has received a string of offers from exchange operators interested in pursuing some form of business tie-up but said talks were still at an early stage.
Offeres were made by NYSE Euronext, Nasdaq OMX Group and London Stock Exchange Group. LCH.Clearnet regulates margin rates for HKMEx, LME and OTC Gold.
It's going to be a rough ride if this deal goes through.
Didn't krieger support obama?
Why are we supposed to listen to this guy?
Because he makes lots of sense in this interview. Listened to it?
Yup. Judge the argument. BTW-Aristotle is credited with stating that an educated man can entertain an idea without endorsing it (so be careful even about judging the argument).
Why is that point lost on so many Thomas?
People think everyone has to be a hundred percent right or what they say is useless.
The insight one gets, is your own internalization of what someone says. NOT the fact that the person was 'Correct' or not.
People think everyone has to be a hundred percent right or what they say is useless.
Perhaps we have become jaded by the certainty that most pundits speak to enrich their own kind. So caveats like "he's a obama supporter" is a factor one may wish to consider when deciphering the information offered.
dup
nice
Trust does not make something true or untrue... it's just a tool to estimate the probability of something being true, if you cannot verify something yourself. If you can verify something, trust is irrelevant to truth.
Yes, I can think for myself but I question why ZH pushes krieger so hard?
He isn't all that insightful and doesn't have a great feel for things. He is an egomaniac, but if we are going to have an egomaniac plastered everywhere might as well be a smart egomaniac like Peter Schiff.
I have no answer to your question.
And I have nothing to say to your reply.
"why ZH pushes krieger so hard"?
Answer: It's pay to play on the hedge. He who pays the most, gets the most attention unless of coarse you want silence.
I hope Goldman understands this. Silence is Goldman.... Silence is gold man.
~D'jean Splicer
answer: because he's a trained mathematician (PhD), and LA lawyer (intellectual property) big in the whole internet-wars thing, a key hot-button at ZH. As to Mr. Schiff, yes, he's an egomaniac, and also a jerk-off. You never hear about how much money he lost for his clients (neighborhood of 80-90%) on the lame excuse (this is a quote) "well - eventually, I'll be proved right" [emphasis mine]
Clearly they were the clients that didn't diversify into gold and silver. Do you have any specific examples to cite? Can you elaborate as to what percentage of clients lost 80-90% and wat percentage of their portfolio was hit? That statement outright defamation and slander.
A more rational argument would go something like this X firm has 1000 clients. During the year of the GFC.
z number of Clients invested in 100% gold made 5%
p number of Clients with 50% in gold and 50% european shares lost y%
q number of Clients with 30% exposure to Lehman.
Etc..
Point is blanket statements like yours are factually incorrect and portray a business in a negative light without accurately backing up your claims. I know this story of Peter Schiff losing his clients money was big new in 2009 as the video Peter Schiff was right was doing the rounds.
I do not subscribe to his view on EUR v USD. I certainly believe in diversification and am a HUGE fan of metals Gold and Silver. I think Peter Schiff is dreaming if he thinks he will get into politics and make a difference.
Anyhows.
the losses occurred on mining stocks when they (and all stocks) hit the abyss. Diversify into gold & silver? He's Mr. Gold himself, ain't he? I could give a shit about "slander". Fuckin' rumors fly every day...half the shit on the web is bogus.
I agree. I think the guy is a putz! He never says anything that hasn't been said by somebody else before. I don't get it either....
I think he wants to be the Grand Poobah for 'Enlightened Sheeple'...
Sorry Mike, you suck and your objective is transparent
Meh. I'll think fer myself. Why is this on zh?
then fuckin turn off ZH since the same shit has been said forever and ever since gold was used to buy pussy
Kreiger's human, not a moron. I'm thinking he's not happy with his choice at this point. Just like he wouldn't be happy if he'd voted McCain.
I hope he's disparaged enough to eat a little Ricin. If you know what I mean. Voluntary consumption avec une note de suicide.
Pretty angry for a molecular biologist..
I once saw a presentation from the FBI talking about Ricin cases and one involved a retarded man. No kidding. The agents were thankful he labeled the ricin jars with "ricin, do not eat - poison".
and that shows you who the cops can catch... and if Tyler keeps these damn auto start video ads this place will go to the shitter
Woops my mistake. I thought I read Krugman. The thread starter was talking about the author while I mistaken thought he was talking about Krugman.
Anyhow, how about some Ricin for everyone! Ricin-Krispies maybe.
There were a lot of what are regarded as 'well thinking people' who supported Obama cause they were ill informed. They didn't listen to Webster Tarpley http://tarpley.net/
btw Good point Krieger "Central Banks don't have Silver" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkJFPZIAfp8#t=11m25s
Yep, New Tarpleys' Up http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/world_crisis/pcast.php
the statists will support their latest prophets, and drink freely their idiot kool-aid, and not give up their dreams of fiat utopia
those that are already feeling the jackboot ramming them in the head will be undergoing a virtual, spiritual experience, and hence the homelandt security matrix will deal with their disappointment as required
anybody tells me they are are demo or rethug, I write off as a dumb ass
Tarpley is the shit. He is the type that would have lead geo-political/economic conversations in the first class smoking room on the Titanic
"Tarpley is the shit. He is the type that would have lead geo-political/economic conversations in the first class smoking room on the Titanic"
You act as thought there's something wrong with that...
Tarpley used to post here on ZH under the user name "geopol". He must have deleted his account because the only place I can find him here is from google search results.
OK, he was an idiot for voting for Obama.
How would voting for McCain have made him any less the idiot?
"Paper or plastic?"
what makes you an idiot is your false dilemma
Anyone with a sub-standard IQ could see-through the BS surrounding Obama mania going all the way back to his election as Senator of IL.
I think what trav was hinting at, was that the premise of voting for ANY of both, is bullshit. It's not "either vote for A or vote for B". If both are shit, don't vote or vote for some minority you like even if it has no chance of winning.
yeap
Paper or plastic? Dem or Repub? Left or right?
Same-same water buffalo.
Or vote with a bullet.
I think it was someone here who said When faced with having to choose between the 'lesser of two evils,' why choose any evil?
You don't get elected by telling people things they don't want to hear. Obama just told all the boomer things they wanted to hear.
I don't blame Obama for doing what he did to get elected i blame him for not using the opportunity to do somthing exceptional.
Few are given the task of being entrusted with the dreams of a nation; fewer are willing to act on those dreams.
Obama has his chance to be a strong leader instead he became nothing but another weak one.
Nobility comes not with birth or title it comes from character. Either you choose to stand your ground and die or you submit to stronger forces.
The choice is you die for your belief or you find something else to believe in.
When Clinton and Obama sneaked off to meet with the Bilderberg bunch, they were probably shown a replay of the Zapruder film.
When the choice is payola or your brains in your lap, it's not really a choice. Which would you choose?
Yes, Pops, I saved those new articles.
<<< The Bilderbergs were meeting in Chantilly Va at the same time. .>>> The press that had been traveling with Obama were not made aware of the secretive meeting until the plane that they assumed Obama would be present on was moving down the runway, prompting many angry questions from the press towards Obama’s spokesman, Robert Gibbs. One reported asked Gibbs, "Why were we not told about this meeting until we were on the plane, the doors were shut and the plane was about to taxi to take off?" to which he responded, "Senator Obama had a desire to do some meetings, others had a desire to meet with him tonight in a private way and that is what we are doing." This preceded another question, "Is there more than one meeting, is there more than one person with whom he is meeting?" Gibbs simply replied, "I am not going to get into all the details of the meeting." He again later repeated that, http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20080609&articleId=9270Couldn't add alot to that comment...
. . . and Dubya didn't need any help in pattern recognition, since his daddy was head of the CIA, and they all came from a long line of successful overseers.
"Obama just told all the boomer things they wanted to hear."
Remember all the jews back then? They were like, OMG no I will not vote for Ohblackma. Then that big nose hideous Sarah Silverman comes out and strongly supported and that fuckface Seinfeld also. Comedians pull some weight with the joobies.
Anyhow, not that the joo vote matters but it's funny how that community flipped on a dime when the hollywooders jumped in.
> Obama has his chance to be a strong leader instead he became nothing but another weak one.
The obsession with "The Big Kahuna" leader is why Americans are always so shocked SHOCKED when their political fantasies don't come true.
"The Big Kahuna" comes WITH the Party. The Blue Team was backed by the one group of multi-billionaires and Red Team by another. You vote for the advertised Big Kahuna you get all the assorted scum and sociopaths that infest the Party too, and the assorted scum and sociopaths make the decision NOT the advertised Big Kahuna .
when TARP was voted down and BOTH canidates ran to the Senate to 'get those 12 votes' how did anyone not wake up at that point about the whole fake dem/repub 'choice' ?? Then to see the 12 repubs sell their votes for $130 bil or so, you had to think it was just theater of a decision already made at the Bildebergers...
yes I see; he had no choice. Like a kiddy toucher saying, "well, that little girl had a pretty skirt on - but the other one had nice pig tailes; I went for one but I didn't touch the other; I had to chose one of them after all"
By your logic he's inocent
on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 14:11
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Didn't krieger support obama?
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did you want 4 more years of Bush?
McSame would have been handled differnet by the lobby how?
maybe abortion would be being discussed..
But Obama is Bush.. worse as a matter of fact and the reason he can be worse is becuase he is a liberal commie.. thats how he takes away more and more of our freedoms every fucking day..
So, tell me why.. you dont like Obama? you are a republican.. he has followed Bush's road map plus plus plus.. so what is it?
For the life of me, I can't see why anyone with any brain can't see that he is indeed Bush III. Extend the Patriot Act, Give everything to the Corp's, continue the wars...
Only the blind fight of the battle of the false dichotomy of right/left, dem/rep.
I voted for None of The Above (wrote in Ron Paul),
Correct as usual JW.
Sam,
You caught me slippin'! I only gave him credit for being lil bush part duex in technicolor.. becuase of the way it rolls off the tounge I use it a LOT! and thusly I short change the Bankers Favorite House Negro!
So Thank You Sir! for steering me back to a correct course, as opposed to me just trying to sound like one of the kool guys!
God Bless Sam and my Best Sam to You and Yours, JW
dems & repubs.. the 24/7 soap opera for grumpy fucks
and those are the people who say watching American Idol are wasting their time...hmmmm
Oba is far worse than Bush. We had 5% unemployment.
The financial system became totally f***ed thanks to liberal CRA lawsuits, Pelosi 2006 congress with no oversight over Fannie & Freddie with Rahm and Gorelnick in control at both. You voted for the islamic - so deal with it you POS.
the fact that you view them as two different realities, speaks volumes.
Freddie, there is no difference between them... NONE.. no difference between Clinton and Bush.. NONE!
Wake! UP!!
The monies spent.. ALL $16 Trillion Dollars! in the past 3 years! went to Bankers! ALL of it went to Corporate Welfare!
http://goo.gl/FnxBZ Treasury Direct $14 Trillion Debt / http://goo.gl/TMl74 $15 Trillion in Loans / http://goo.gl/EXzal / ='s $29T
All I can do is show you the door! you have to walk thru on your own.
We are not supposed to listen to "this guy". We are simply supposed to listen.
This idea that it's noble to be a "denier" or that it's dangerous to listen to anything outside rigid boundries is rubbish.
now go to church like a good sheep.
Who was he supposed to support? At least Obama isn't an environmental NIGHTMARE like a rep would be.
The sooner the US economy collapses the better...that's the only way by which the brute and ignorant American populace will learn not living beyond their means.
I totally agree. I was having a conversation with a girl last week and the topic of joo-rocks came up. I asked her if she thought it necessary to wear a ring when she marries and she went off in a fevered pitch about how many carats she wants to have and anything less would mean that her future husband does not care enough about her... Stupid bish!
Good fucking grief. There should be a new law. Anyone wearing a joo-rock gets sent to prison for 60 years.
That law will set the right president for prudence. $10,000 for a joo-rock. Typically financed. Are you idiots huffing glue?
So you're telling me there are a bunch of free thinking available ladies at the klan rally?
Go buy the joo-rocks so your yenta can impress the world with her worth and stature. You can stand proud, you provided precious gems for the big nosed yenta of your dreams.
The cycle of retarditude continues.
I'm an admitted neophyte to PM investing and fairly new to ZH, although I'm not a neophyte to the world and the lengths to which other people and institutions will go in an attempt to redistribute my wealth. The volatility in PM's the past ten days or so is an indication that any commodity can be manipulated by virtually anyone with deep enough pockets and it seems silver is the commodity of manipulator's choice. Am I missing something?
They will manipulate it until they can't.
THAT is the point in time that most of us Physical buyers are preparing for.
Most opinions you will hear here, are from people who think in terms of 'Investing', Many of us are preparing and buying for the days AFTER that period.
Very good insight. Definately worth the 24 minutes to listen.
100$ silver sounds good. But not for me (needs CHF for everyday life).
When Silver is 100$ I expect USD/CHF at about 0.5-0.6...
Give it 3 years. Well 3 years for 80-90CHF. Maybe 4-5years, for that last push to 120USD and 100CHF.
1) USD is debasing its currency.
2) All currencies are priced in USD.
3) China wants big boy pants and a seat at the big table.
To put pressure on US/UK/EU China is willing to run up commodities untill they get a seat at the big table.
4) CHF is not the USD, CHF is along for the debasement ride.
5) you stopped reading at 2 :P
Its all about governments providing profit. Governments stole profitablility and are now supplying it to the major players, everyone else gets to go out of business.
Production can't become any more efficient. All industries are under margin pressure do to currency, labor and commodities.
The last 1000 years of ever increasing efficientcy is at an end. Yes even Ipods are no longer getting cheaper to make. Ram, processing power are subsidised by governments. The companies would not even turn a profit if not for their government sponsors.
Silver will continue to go up in price untill profit is returned to the market place.
Corporate profitability has been skyrocketing
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CP
Aren't Swiss banks, and therefore CHF, hugely exposed to Greek default? It seems like there's going to be a very fluid system when some of these Sacred Cows start to go down together. Assumptions can change pretty quickly.
That said, the swissie should do far better than the USD.
The Irish George Carlin............
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yieS7jWWdB8
That was beautiful. Set up the media and drive home your point, with humor.
This is a silly, immature interview from some "hot shot mathematician and big time lawyer" (???). Are his comments here his view of profound? His articles and his oft repeated comments are becoming boreing.
Kind of like Chris Mathison and Creggie Milton. Parrots. I totally agree.
"When I got physical silver and gold in my hand something clicked and I understood what money was"
Till it was legislated away. At a fair price of course.
Obama/McCain... Douchbag or turd sandwich. South park said it best.
Maybe that choice was a curse for the winner become loser, depending on how the future goes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYuLjGQQ-jg
The Business of Climate Change Conference 2009
this guy Mike! is Great! he is grounded.. he uses common sense... and all of the Huffington Post Cry Babies above bitching about him are just Mad the rapture skipped them last weekend!
100 oz
RRRrrrright....
sure
Robo's LULU recommendation would probably do better e.g. $1200 / share
ask yourself this question..
since 2008.. the FED has printed 300% more paper money out of thin air..
how much has gold or silver climbed in the same time period?
Thanks for Playing.. just becuase you have nicest rack here dont mean you get to be a fucking MOE-Ron!
The guy seems pretty grounded and intelligent. I think he does a good job articulating some of the more basic points.
The truth doesn't have to be profound, and it often is boring. Do I need to remind you to eat 3 servings of vegetables for your health?
At the same time I can see why ZHers (some) get tired of the rehash. But good introductory material for newbies.
Good comment.
This topic might as well (still) be brain surgery for the vast majority of Americans. Rehash or not...
hurry everyone sell your PM's to me!!! they are all over priced..
lucky for you I am buying any and all at discount prices.. however much you think they are over priced.. I will under pay you spot by that much!
win! win!! you get out of the PM's and you get cash equal to your belief of how much over valued they are!
No need to Thank me, it is my community duty to be suportive of whomever fucking stupidity!
http://www.amazon.com/Annals-Former-World-John-McPhee/dp/0374105200
Magnificent read. Everything from intense examples of geologic "deep time", to the scarcity of silver.
I got my bikes! Yeah, baby! And lot's a parts.
It doesn't matter who you vote for if the same people choose all the people you can vote for. they have different parties in Russia, doesn't mean shit.
those who support a party just don't get it. it's the divide and distract tactic. make believe their re reall differences, determine the news cycle, while both crony capitialist parties essentially enact the same economic policies.
clinton destroys glass stegall, Obama increases domestic spy programs and the partriot act.
you think the koch bothers give a crap about don't ask don't tell or gay marriage. NBo, the two parties are paid to talk this crap and divide up the poor, the stupid, the middle class so nobody really has the option of voting with their economic intersts.
the corporations pay the republicans to be always right of the fake left in this country. that way the left can give the right almost everything they really wanted to begin with and the left can pass it off as a victory. See obama's negotiation strategy on everything.
this crap isn't rocket science folks, and well lots of the comments today are really poorly thought out. anyone who takes sides, just is a tool and nothing more. It's the people Vs. the two parties. not one party or another.
nobody in their right minds would allow this much leverage in the financial system, nobody in their right minds would allow hft. yet neither party has anything to say about it, so it doesn't make the press.
nobody in their right mind wouldn't audit the fed. not an issue for either party.
can I be more clear, NO. two kade parties, the same crony capitiaist adgenda. end result wealth disparity, end of middle class.
you think these bankers and elites give a fuck about america. they will just leave when the crap hits the fan and move somewhere else.
you think these bankers and elites give a fuck about america. they will just leave when the crap hits the fan and move somewhere else.
ding ding
If you dismissed everyone who voted for "W" and/or BO there would be no one to listen to.
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