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Mike Krieger On The UN Power Grab

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From Mike Krieger of KAM LP


The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there’s free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.
- Noam Chomsky

Nobel awards are merely an honorary award in groupthink, presented to anyone who perpetuates the status quo with little regard for actual merit-based contribution.
- Tyler Durden of Zerohedge

A Brief History

I am particularly untalented at a lot of things.  It can be frustrating sometimes, the way my mind works.  Some parts of it just seem to be overly stimulated and powerful, while others appear depressingly average.  I have always been of the belief that everyone has some personality trait that is particularly strong relative to the others and if they are able to identify that strength and focus on it they can ultimately reach their highest potential.  Early on in life it was pointed out to me by family and friends that I had an uncanny ability to process current information and extrapolate that into future likely trends.  To me the observations I made seemed so obvious I didn’t even contemplate that it could be a unique talent.  I didn’t realize it was until I came to Wall Street.

From 2000-2005 I toiled anonymously at Lehman Brothers as one of the junior people on the oil analyst’s research team.  Sometime around 2003, I started looking into the growth trends of China, India and other nations combined with recent oil supply growth trends and a light bulb went off.  Oil was about to explode higher.  It was around this time I also realized that research was too slow and painfully tedious for my personality.  Some of the most senior people in research thought I should look into being a trading desk analyst for energy.  Thus began a process where I would go down to the trading desk every few days and attempt to kiss ass.  I am the worst ass kisser on planet earth.  In fact, I am really actually incapable of it.  I also went through some one on one interviews with the guys on the desk.  We would talk oil and I was often asked where I thought it was going.  I would reply with “much higher” and that I thought it would need to get to at least $70/b in the next few years to ration demand.  I was literally laughed at or looked at as if I was insane.  Oil was trading at $30/b or so at the time.  I didn’t get the position. 

I also interviewed for a job on the new “prop desk” at Lehman about a year later.  The guy that ran that thing exemplified exactly why Wall Street crashed and will crash again.  The middle management at Lehman was full of these types.  I should have known to short the stock as soon as I left.  This guy started asking me about MBAs and CFAs.  He asked why I didn’t have any of those.  I told him I didn’t think you needed either to be a good investor or trader and I would prove it to him.  In a very condescending manner he asked me if he stuttered and he repeated that he thought I should get a CFA.  I got up, shook his hand, laughed and walked out.  I didn’t get that job either.  The sell-side of Wall Street is full of “yes” men.  There are of course many, many exceptions (less and less as they are leaving) but in general you get ahead by being a world class kiss ass.  

So, interestingly enough I ended up getting a job at Sanford Bernstein doing exactly what Lehman denied me.  Generally, I found Bernstein to be another world from Lehman.  The person who hired me was an amazing manager.  Not only did he give me a shot but he mentored me and never micromanaged me, which is always the huge mistake managers make with people that should never be micromanaged.  Thanks Dave!  As much as I bash Wall Street, my first three years at Bernstein were great times.  We just did research and traded stocks for clients on commission.  There was no prop trading desk and we didn’t make complex derivatives and stuff European pensions with them.  We came up with ideas and hustled.  It was intellectually stimulating, fun and I learned a lot. 

There is a point to this story I promise!  Ok, so sometime around 2007 I started seeing what was happening and it was the response of the “authorities” that scared the living daylights out of me.  Whether we are talking about that tyrant George W writing checks to people, or the Bernank slashing rates, ,clearly something was very wrong.  So I took the red pill and started figuring out how the financial and monetary system really worked.  It became abundantly clear that it was a gigantic ponzi scheme that over time would inevitably collapse, but it also inherently presented the perfect system in which to transfer wealth from the middle class and rich to the super rich.  As things progressed and the responses became worse and more desperate I could see where it was all heading and I warned people.    

The UN Power Grab

The main reason I write these pieces is because over the past eleven years of my life I have time and time again realized that I have a talent for foreseeing the big macro trends.  All along the way I have also noticed that most people continue to always think I am exaggerating no matter how many right predictions I have made in the past.  Normalcy bias is a powerful force.  For the last few years I have focused on getting people financially ready because a broke population is vulnerable to lies and demagoguery and such societies tend to fall victim to authoritarian dictatorships.  Gold, silver and other assets have been and continue to be absolutely crucial to making it through the times ahead.  That said, at this point there are even greater threats I see on the horizon. 

The primary trend I see in the markets is the destruction of the purchasing power of all fiat currencies, with the U.S. dollar having the most to lose as the world’s reserve currency.  Nothing throws a population into more of a tizzy than a destroyed currency.  Similarly, nothing provides a more fertile ground for power hungry control freaks to take over your lives than economic chaos.  What has really started getting my attention in the last several months is how the UN seems to be trying to position itself as a “world government” savior of sorts.  First, the UN decided it would be a good idea to launch a war in Libya and Obama decided the U.S. would get involved without ever asking Congress for an authorization of force (which according to George Friedman of Stratfor is a first).  What is so pathetic is where are the fake liberals in America?  Where are the anti-war protests?  We are so successfully divided in the fake Republican/Democrat, Red/Blue, Yankees/Mets paradigm of stupidity that the “left” in this country won’t criticize Obama for starting a new war because he is “their guy.”  This is pathetic and dangerous because guess what will happen when we get a Republican thug as president that uses the precedents Obama has set to shed even more blood all over the world.  Who will protest then and who will care? 

Ok, so Obama basically legitimizing that the UN has the right to declare war and send U.S. troops to war was the start.  Once they got away with that they have started moving into hyper-drive.  Anyone see the report released earlier this week on how the UN thinks commodity speculators should be regulated.  It’s true, see it here  How about this excerpt from the article: 

Providing more timely data on fundamentals, information about market participants, especially in Europe, increasing position limits and banning proprietary trading by financial institutions that are involved in making hedging decisions for their clients are ways to solve problems associated with speculative investments in commodities, the UN said. Introducing a tax system that slows financial market activities and more government involvement in trading is needed to ensure traders are considering supply and demand fundamentals when investing, it said.

More “government involvement in trading.”  Hmmm, I wonder where this is going.  I am just waiting for the UN to launch a treaty to regulate commodities globally in the name of saving starving people.  Ah, but there is more.  The UN is also trying to subvert the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution via the “Small Arms Treaty.”  Read about it here  From the article:

Have no doubt that this plan is very real, with strong Obama administration support. In January 2010 the U.S. joined 152 other countries in endorsing a U.N. Arms Treaty Resolution that will establish a 2012 conference to draft a blueprint for enactment. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has pledged to push for Senate ratification. Former U.N. ambassador John Bolton has cautioned gun owners to take this initiative seriously, stating that the U.N. “is trying to act as though this is really just a treaty about international arms trade between nation states, but there is no doubt that the real agenda here is domestic firearms control.

Look, I am not a gun owner (at the moment) and I can count on my hands the amount of times I have fired one but I would gladly die to support the Constitution of the United States of America (as opposed to dying in the Middle East to support the petro dollar and the status quo, which is all these wars are).  At these times when criminals are in charge of the country I am quite glad people are armed and I hope they get more armed.  It is a great deterrent.  Let’s remember the Swiss are amongst the most armed people on the planet (watch this quick video  How many times have they been conquered recently? 

So to make a long story short, the very tough times to come will create a power vacuum that some will use as a way to push forward world government.  Treaties are VERY powerful documents which is why they are difficult to pass.  We should all agree to a total moratorium on treaties right now.  Washington D.C. is criminally incompetent and they would easily sell us up the river if things get dicey again (remember TARP and the Pandora’s box that opened up). 

Moreover, if anything, I think recent years have proven that things work much better at the local level and we need to start aggressively moving power and sovereignty back to the states and our local communities.  The states are very powerful under the Constitution.  Remember the 10th Amendment states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”  We have the power people, let’s start using it.  If we start getting active and independent in our states and communities now, the harder it will be for the Federal or Global thugs to succeed in their power grab when things get really hard.         
June 14th Protests 

So several things are happening next week.  On the one hand, Martin Armstrong’s next “turn date” is on June 13/14th (the last one was April 16th when the SEC announced it was looking into GS and when it and the financial stocks experienced a plunge from which they never really recovered).  If I had to take a guess, I think this date will be related to long term rates.  I think it will mark the point from which everyone finally realizes long-term treasury rates are not headed any lower.  Who knows though, we shall see!

The other thing happening is that my friend and activist David DeGraw is helping to launch protests around the country on that date.  Here is a link for more information.  I would ask people to support this in some way.  Whether that means going to a protest, attending a city council meeting, buying silver, or reading a the Constitution the point is please do SOMETHING to exercise your individual sovereignty and resistance to economic and political slavery.


Finally, I recently did an interview with Dan Ameduri of Future Money Trends.  I realize that these emails are increasingly political but that is because I touch on the biggest trends and try to warn people about what I believe is most important.  This interview is much more on the economy and financial trends.  Here it  is  (scroll down below Ron Paul).  I hope you enjoy!  

Peace and wisdom,


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Thu, 06/09/2011 - 13:51 | 1355042 TruthInSunshine
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Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:50 | 1355266 Deepskyy
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Those powder blue helmets sure do make em easy to see from a distance.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 03:21 | 1357100 gorillaonyourback
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thank you all you zero hedgers, im finally see America getting your message, time for a revolution, lets not give our country away with out a fight.  thx mark too

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 03:35 | 1357113 AnAnonymous
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thank you all you zero hedgers, im finally see America getting your message,


Dont get over carried. If you understand the gangs, you understand the US.

Gangs do not oppose acts on principles, they oppose being not the ones performing the acts.

Gangs do not oppose drugs dealing, they oppose other drug dealers.

Once again, checked in the little heavens known as the US.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 03:46 | 1357118 gorillaonyourback
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i alone have a fighting chance against the gangs in this country.  i need all my fellow americans to fight the govt.  think about it who has the most sophisticated weapons? some gang in compton or tijuana,,,, lolololol. its the govt.  thats the enemy

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 03:53 | 1357128 AnAnonymous
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What fellow americans? There is no fellow americans other than the members of your gang.

The US gang known as the government is only the enemy for members of other gangs.

Gangs, gangs, gangs... US citizens only oppose war when it is not performed by their gangs, for the benefit of their gangs.

Opposition by principle is very rare in the US. Adhesion by profit extremelly high in the US.

The US citizen nature is eternal.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 03:53 | 1357123 AnAnonymous
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Mike Krieger's narrative is typical of US citizens: warped in order to preserve the US citizens' ego.


The UN declaring war on a nation? Where did he get that? The UN is an enabler of the US world order. The UN provides a moral endorsement to US driven actions. Nothing more.

The US goes at war against a nation and gets a UN vote to dilute the US responsibility in that war. When the UN vote is acquired, it is like the war was decided by the whole world, not the US.

Same stuff in Lybia: the English, the French and the US went to war against Lybia and later secured a UN vote to endorse the act of war.

But this narrative, sticking to reality, will bruise US citizens' ego who enjoy painting themselves as victims.

Victimology is high in the US and when they go at war against another nation, it must be because they were forced into it, not because they want to further their best interests. They go at war on humanity's behalf, to help human kind, certainly not to rob from another nation.

It is well known US citizens respect property and were not involved in lets say, robbing an entire continent.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 04:01 | 1357130 gorillaonyourback
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good luck selling that shit to zero hedgers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,loloolololol.  now your bullshit is starting to stink in main stream.   many are starting to realize 911 was a black opp and our govt is run by giant international corporations that dont give a damn about our constitution.  So in other words FUCK YOU for trying to appeal to the Americas sense of rightousness when we a awaking to fascist state we find ourselves in, run by a bunch of fucktards like YOU.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 04:15 | 1357145 AnAnonymous
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So in other words FUCK YOU for trying to appeal to the Americas sense of rightousness


You really got me here. When did I suggest that US citizens have a stub of sense of righteousness? Good luck with that.


Not only a factual presentation of the US world order has little chance to be admitted by this site posters but it has also little chance to be admitted by US citizens at large.

US citizens are fond of victimology. They have troubles depicting themselves as they are.

The narrative that the UN has somehow hijacked their sovereignty is a convenient but cheap trick to deny that the US is acting out of popular will.

The war against Libya is not UN decided. Only UN endorsed. Big difference. The decisions of the war was made by the English, the French and the US, nations that sought dilution of their responsibility through the UN.


Fri, 06/10/2011 - 04:24 | 1357146 gorillaonyourback
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and secondly,  many have consigned to oblivion in the persuit of the American dream. Now they are realizing that dream is a nightmare, buying shit on credit like houses, cars and fuckin play stations left them in debtors prison.  People in this country are finally lookin for answers and all along it was right in front of them in their constitution.  As Charley daniels said we may fight amongst ourselves but you fuckin outsiders better just leave us alone.  YES we do have nationalism and just because our govt has gone awry doesn't mean we all cant start hangin our so called politicians for treason.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 04:27 | 1357149 gorillaonyourback
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"It is well known US citizens respect property and were not involved in lets say, robbing an entire continent"


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 13:56 | 1355049 SheepDog-One
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Yea mean....the new world order 1 world govt? Nah cant be! Thats just conspiracy kook nonsense!

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:53 | 1355292 Urban Redneck
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Krieger, Bloomberg, and Forbes are ALL missing the primary (global) motivation of the UN in both the arms trade and financial services sectors.




You can't have 1-world government without 1-world taxes.


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 13:57 | 1355052 SheepDog-One
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Ordo Ab Chao....bitchez.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 13:58 | 1355054 Alcoholic Nativ...
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This is some Glenn Beck grade garbage.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:02 | 1355073 TruthInSunshine
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I'm not a fan of Beck or almost any other MSM LameStreaming Bobble Head. In fact, I detest them all.

However, I will and must give Beck a shout out for at least having Edward G. Griffin on his show and for speaking to, even if only in a very superficial manner, the disease that is The Private 'Federal' Reserve Bank.

AFAIK, Beck has been the only MSM notable to have done so - period.

Props where they're due.

p.s. - Beck probably got a shadowy and anonymous phone call afterwards asking him if he loves his family.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:05 | 1355090 Alcoholic Nativ...
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I agree with you there, Beck does mention some things of importance every now and then.. He's still a corporate christ tard though.   Want some info read this book.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:07 | 1355095 SheepDog-One
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'Christ-tard'? How do you figure? Hes a Mormon. They deny Christ is the true messiah.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:06 | 1355108 Alcoholic Nativ...
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I doubt he would admit that on his show.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:12 | 1355114 SheepDog-One
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Well of course he wont admit it, nevertheless its a fact for anyone with a brain to plainly see. Beck also wont admit he's a 16th degree Freemason, but thats also a fact.

YouTube - Glenn Beck 16th Degree Mason-1st Degree Shill

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:13 | 1355136 Rodent Freikorps
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If you ain't 32nd, you ain't shit.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:16 | 1355142 SheepDog-One
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What matters is who he's beholden to.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:29 | 1355186 Vic Vinegar
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True.  But even at 32nd you still are just middle management.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:32 | 1355195 john39
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but you are controlled.  A mormon/freemason is certainly under a few thumbs.  The mormon church is a massive financial scam itself.  All that money it rakes in and no accountability whatsoever.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 19:41 | 1356298 Cathartes Aura
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"mormon" founder joseph smith was a high ranking freemason, and their temples where they wear their special ceremonial garments to do their "work" are full of masonic symbology. . .

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:39 | 1355420 SheepDog-One
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Everyone has a boss.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:41 | 1355432 Rodent Freikorps
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33rd is a full fledged Shriner, I believe.

Not really a small thing.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 18:21 | 1356011 Wadzzy
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"Hes a Mormon. They deny Christ is the true messiah."


Please cite your official source, where the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, aka the Mormons, deny Christ is the true Messiah.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:02 | 1355092 SheepDog-One
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Glenn Beck the 16th degree freemason is expert at leading people right up to the edge of the real truth, then throwing the blanket over his audiences heads.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:07 | 1355334 zaknick
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Right on.

As far as I can tell, Beck speaks for the KKK redneck drug warriors and their business interests which are allied with the GHWBush bankster faction as opposed to the Soros faction (although Murdoch and Royhschild are investing in Isntreal shale oil -Genie Inc or something like that which is connected to IDT which is Palins political consultants

Obama is a puppet of the Soros-Trilateral crowd like Carter was.

Beck also uses imagery of Martin Luther King but the banksters he works for are the ones who killed MLK. In the late nineties, MLK's family won a wrongful death civil suit against the CIA et al and won and Faux News never covered it.

Amazing what's on TV these days, eh?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 16:16 | 1355526 Libertarians fo...
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First time poster, here.  Sorry this has to be a little confrontational, but someone needs to stand up and defend Beck.  Back-stabbing a Christian man who isn't here to defend himself is not only cowardly, it's the work of evil spirits.

I don't know why people are prone to giving Beck such a hard time. You want your news through Katie Couric (liberal lesbian), or Anderson Cooper (liberal lesbian) or that raging lesbian on MSNBC with the flat top hair? You want your news filtered through homosexuals and deviants?  The fact that so much news is being distributed by homosexuals just proves the infiltration of liberal infidels in our media.   

Becks's a true down-to-earth American Christian patriot, who simply wants America to return to our Constitution and our christian heritage.  Is that so bad?  

I would encourage everyone to consider joining his crusade in Jerusalem this summer, or at least listen to the man before you criticize him. he is the only person in mainstream media who gives the news without an agenda. It's not spin, if it's the truth.  

For more information on his Jerusalem crusade, please go to his website. 


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 16:35 | 1355569 pazmaker
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I din't know he was Chrisitian???  I thought he was Mormon?  Anyway I can't watch the guy ...I tried one time and I almost threwup.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 17:32 | 1355867 Dburn
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You realize he was a Radio Shock Jock in the 80s and into the 90s. For a time , he was at the top of his game and then the drugs, sex and rock and roll took it's toll.

The main take-away is that he is an attention whore who lives and dies by his ratings and will do anything to make them better. Anything.

He loves the fact that he took in people like yourself. He had to find the most vulnerable group who are prone to looking for leaders (authoritarianism) to tell them what to think in order to quickly establish himself at Fox

Just like his earlier flame-out, he began to believe his own press which is why illusions of grandeur seep in , hence Fox getting rid of his show.

The man has no sincerity to the causes that interest you. You represent a ratings boost.

Don't worry we all get conned by people like that.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 19:57 | 1356347 FlyPaper
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Beck is leaving Fox and going 'private' pay-for-service "TV"... I don't think his ratings were good enough on Fox.  Don't know about his radio show.

I channel surf between left and right and have heard Beck talk about the following:

Creature from Jekyll Island, Road to Serfdom - both excellent and right up ZH alley; Niall Ferguson who is an excellent source of history of finance - and basically concludes we are committing fiscal suicide.  He also called attention to Van Jones, Obama's (admitted) communist Green Jobs Czar; and I have heard him criticize both R and D party members.  

So while I don't share his religious and conspiracy views, he has been out there trying to get people to see what's going on.  In that regard he is one of the few "bigger" media guys talking about these issues.   You don't have to like him, but I think he deserves some credit here.



Thu, 06/09/2011 - 19:53 | 1356345 Cathartes Aura
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You want your news through Katie Couric (liberal lesbian), or Anderson Cooper (liberal lesbian) or that raging lesbian on MSNBC with the flat top hair? You want your news filtered through homosexuals and deviants?  The fact that so much news is being distributed by homosexuals just proves the infiltration of liberal infidels in our media.

yeah, you're new here if you think the folk that post are getting news from all your OMFGAWDLESBO's list. . . signed up less than 2 weeks ago, all set for your trolling *nods*

fuck your jerusalem "crusade" you dimwit tool.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 07:33 | 1357271 i-dog
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+1. Very elegantly put, CA!

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:15 | 1355139 NotApplicable
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I think you misunderstand the controlled opposition that Beck represents. While he does provide info and meaningful commentary on some subjects to his audience, that isn't why he is who he is.

While you appreciate him having Griffin on, he has just been tarred with the taint of Beck for the larger Beck-hating crowd. For instance, you couldn't approach any lefty with the interview and expect them to get anything out of it (assuming you could get them to watch to begin with). Instead they will always associate the two, and the more self-destructive Beck gets, the more damage it does to Griffin.

Basically, it's the same role of circus clown that Palin played to discredit the Tea Party.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:20 | 1355143 InMisesITrust
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G. Edward Griffin


Beck is a shill......he is probably guarnteed a spot in Romney's cabinet.



Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:28 | 1355167 TruthInSunshine
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G. Edward - right.

My bad.

For the uninitiated, G. Edward Griffin wrote The Creature From Jekyll Island, which breaks down the history and machinery of The 'Federal' [privately owned - don't let the sock puppets try and deceive] Reserve Bank, and how it is a cog in the wheel of the biggest scam in financial history of getting 'sovereign people' to pay interest on money that their governments - even those governments that can allegedly print their own 'money' - borrow from some nice guys, interpersed around the globe, who are generous of mind and spirit.

If you haven't read it, buy it, borrow it and just get it and read it.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:03 | 1355078 SheepDog-One
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Its kind of long winded, but I dont know if Mike is a Freemason Mormon like Glenn Beck the fraud. Anyway he makes a pretty good point in that while MBA morons dance on the head of a pin about 'QE or no QE' and all that, everything is being taken down for a central 1 world govt ran by UN lunatics who have failed in everything since day 1. Doesnt matter to them though, thats the New World Order plan and theyll fulfill it they dont care if 5 billion people got to die to see it happen.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:15 | 1355129 GeneMarchbanks
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Mike is so "incapable of kissing ass" that he quotes Tyler to begin his essay on ZH. Keep it up Mike you're a real hero...


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 20:00 | 1356174 DosZap
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NO, it's the Gospel, and it you cannot see the truth i n this, your a blind fart.

 At these times when criminals are in charge of the country I am quite glad people are armed and I hope they get more armed.  It is a great deterrent.


I am not sure it's possible form that to happen........but, I am sure there are a lot of sheeple that will awaken from a stupor, see the truth, and become cannon fodder.

While the real talent does it's job with precision.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:01 | 1355065 drink or die
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Color me cynical, but more protests won't do anything.  They are just ignored anyways.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 13:59 | 1355074 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Let's all get together and demand an extenstion of the Bush Tax Cuts like they did the last election cycle.

Takin Merica Back!


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 21:47 | 1356677 Rational Psycho
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I think they're more than just ineffective. They serve to maintain the status quo by getting people to think the only way to change the system is to petition the system. Like the Chomsky quote at the beginning of this article.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:04 | 1355082 Rodent Freikorps
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 This is pathetic and dangerous because guess what will happen when we get a Republican thug as president that uses the precedents Obama has set to shed even more blood all over the world.

Seriously? Did you forget Hitler was a socialist?

Fuck you, Mike Krieger, you fucking moron, idiot, tool of the Left.

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Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:51 | 1355271 falak pema
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You sound like a white alcoholic, native of redneck-land, disguised as a "black foot" who loves "firewater" in the B western movie; the kind where a hundred red devils die for every white man who gets his mustache singed by a danged red-devil arrow; starring Ronald Reagan ...not, Kirk Douglas.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:07 | 1355323 Rodent Freikorps
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And you sound like an arrogant tool who builds straw men for a living.


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:10 | 1355123 SheepDog-One
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Mike is stuck in 'demican/republicrat' bullshit certainly....he doesnt have to look to an 'evil republican president' theres never been more evil in the white house than right now.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:25 | 1355171 NotApplicable
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Seriously? Did you forget the preceding sentence?

We are so successfully divided in the fake Republican/Democrat, Red/Blue, Yankees/Mets paradigm of stupidity that the “left” in this country won’t criticize Obama for starting a new war because he is “their guy.”  This is pathetic and dangerous because guess what will happen when we get a Republican thug as president that uses the precedents Obama has set to shed even more blood all over the world.  Who will protest then and who will care? 

So, you fell for the fake/left right divide, which he laid out while criticizing Obama. Now tell me, who's the tool here?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:33 | 1355182 Rodent Freikorps
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Republican "thug."

Pay attention to the packaging , ADD boy. It is subtle.

Republicans are whores. Democratic Socialists are police state killers. There is a difference.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:53 | 1355282 DoChenRollingBearing
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That sounds about right.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:05 | 1355327 NotApplicable
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I saw the word. In fact, I knew it was what tripped you up. But see, I don't play name calling games, so other than observing how they expose people's reactionary buttons, they mean little to me.

Besides, one doesn't have to be polarized to see how they all perpetrate thuggery (with laughably minuscule 'differences'). But hey, you obviously identify with the R label, so you had to retaliate, keeping the faith, right?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 16:22 | 1355531 NotApplicable
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Also, while I think it was a risk for Mike to use the word thug (as he should know it will get the reaction demonstrated), there is a legitimate reason he used it.

If you look back at the context, he is warning against the next thug and their acting on the precedent set by the 'opposition.' That it is a Republican thug in this case is due only to the fact that the opposition currently setting precedent is a Democrat. 

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 20:10 | 1356412 Cathartes Aura
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Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Perle, John Bolton, and all the rest of the PNAC warmongers - thugs.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 20:18 | 1356440 FlyPaper
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DC is about power.  No question that both "R" and "D" have cozied up to the moneyed crowd.  Let's not forget that Woodrow Wilson (D) got us into this mess because of his "progressive" ideals - also shared largely by Theodore Roosevelt (R) and cousin Franklin (D) creator of the Social Security ponzi scheme.  Let's not forget "W" Bush (R) and rogue Obama (D) for crushing American freedoms via the "Patriot" act, and by further monarchization of the US Presidency..

Point here is I have no idea what either party stands for.  Hence stupid remarks about "Republican" or "Democrat" shills are meaningless.

What is meaningful is that right now we are facing a significant loss of personal and financial freedom; we are being assaulted by an out of control government who, like Hugo Chavez, uses the framework of democracy to enslave the people.    We see corruption, greed; taxpayers getting hosed via currency debasement; a President who starts a war with *no* interaction with Congress; an Administration that seeks to establish a UN treaty so they can remove our firearms.  A government who is now controlling and has spies in your local bank, on the internet, in the schools; and restricts your ability as an American citizen to move your assets out of the country if you so desire.  Drones on the Canadian border, Regulatory rules and agencies that are out of control...

If these things concern you and you want to do something about it - I don't care if you are a Libertarian, Conservative, Democrat, Republican, Straight, Gay, Black, White, Asian - we have something in common that we damn well better get on the stick about.  We are not 'losing' control - we have LOST control of our government.

The only way out is to talk about ISSUES and IDEAS, not labels and cheesy insults. 


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:43 | 1355255 falak pema
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Hitler wasn't a socialist, he was a "socialite", an uber-Oligarch disguised as socialist, an elitist who loved "herd thinning" and "manifest destiny". Hey, Rodent, he was your type of hero. Let's face it.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:54 | 1355270 Rodent Freikorps
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He was an idiot. You thin the herd based on IQ, not ethnicity.

But, since you are a dishonest pos, carry on with your slander.

And to be honest, I'd rather see a couple of billion humans die rather than see the extinction of the whales, big cats, hippos, and all the elephants on Earth.

Really. Just cut me a check and I'll make sure the mountain gorillas never die out.

Christ, I'd slaughter a couple of a billion with a sharp piece of steel just to save the Siberian Tiger.

Fuck humans.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:59 | 1355298 falak pema
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No kidding, "you thin the herd on IQ!" Wow! new definition of uber-alles 'manifest destiny'. So Rodent, we have 'final solution' for the mentally deficient in your Utopian 'wunderland' of USA, USA? Hey, Goebels and Heinrich would have been proud of you...You'd have been promoted to OberStumphenfuhrer to Treblinka with oak leaves and iron cross...mein feldcorp commandant!

I love manifest destiny going eco-system friendly. Wow, Rodent, you'd never have shot a bison in the ole, ole west! Right? All those Buffalo Bills who herd thinned all those bisons...

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:00 | 1355309 Rodent Freikorps
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If the criteria is IQ, I can understand why you would feel threatened.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:19 | 1355356 falak pema
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The only thing that threatens me is my inertia, my lack of ability, desire,  to kick human hubris in the butt when I see it face to face. But this is a never ending saga...'mort aux cons' ...'Vaste programme'...

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:26 | 1355371 Rodent Freikorps
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What threatens you is the possible fall of the State, and its ability to fund tools of mis-information, like you.

Say hi to Soros for me.


I will meet you on any field of honor you desire.

You are a coward and a fool.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 16:21 | 1355549 Sunshine n Lollipops
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Rodent, you seem to be a carrier of the 'vigilante gene', which you bring vividly to life with your certainty of who needs to be eliminated in order to create your perfect world. Your embrace of ultra-violence as a solution might be better utilized against our oppressors, instead of fellow victims like falak. Give your seething hatred and bloodlust an outlet, why don't ya, and make your way to DC or Wall St. to take on the beasts face to face. You're the kind of frontline warrior this world needs right now. Fearless, righteous and on a fucking mission. Seriously, I would hate for people to start thinking that you're merely a big talker.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 16:35 | 1355575 Rodent Freikorps
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That was pretty good.

I'm still not buying a used car from you or him.

Or do you want to be his second? Study up on the duties of a second.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 18:30 | 1356033 Sunshine n Lollipops
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I have nothing to sell. Think of me as a guidance counselor.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 19:41 | 1356300 Rodent Freikorps
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My high school guidance counselor tried to stab me in the kidney.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 23:48 | 1356922 Sunshine n Lollipops
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You're a very strange rodent.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:54 | 1355291 Shell Game
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You come across as an intelligent guy, angry perhaps, but smart.  After all we've beheld do you truly harbor allegience and hope for the R party?  Do you truly believe the only thing wrong with this country is the encroachment of socialism?

As I see it there are two generalized threats to individual liberty, the rise of socialism AND a patriotic, national fascism.  As it stands now, I think there are enough of us to crush any true embrace of socialism - too many will just not stand for it (I for one).  It's the second threat that will be harder for the patriotic right to say no to.  I think this is what Mike is identifying.

There is a sad lack of VIGILANCE in this country and we need to praise all distrust of this current government - BOTH sides of it.  Thus I think you are gravely mistaken to spew virulence against what we need right now.


Edit:  as I was posting I saw this, "Republicans are whores. Democratic Socialists are police state killers. There is a difference."  Very much agree, and it clarifies your position.  Nonetheless, I strongly believe we need to encourage sharp criticism of the Right, as well as the Left.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:57 | 1355304 Rodent Freikorps
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Sad as the answer is, I feel I've been betrayed by everything I ever believed in.

I am adrift.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:07 | 1355333 Shell Game
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I too, friend.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:19 | 1355367 falak pema
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Lets drink to 'paradise lost' and 'auld lang syne'. But with good wine...or else I'd be a swine to my own manifest destiny, pursuit of...

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:47 | 1355411 Rodent Freikorps
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Try this anthem, dick breath.

JOAN BAEZ "The Battle Hymn of the Republic "

This is my current fave:

March of Cambreadth

How could you not love a song with the lyrics "How many of them can we make die?"

And with bagpipes. Awesome.

How can this not be the official song of Fight Club?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:53 | 1355475 Shell Game
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Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:49 | 1355453 Nathan Muir
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Great exchange, this is why I read ZH comments. 

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:42 | 1355433 Moe Howard
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Yes, I agree, he spouts some truths but the real problem to him is the right - the problem is not that Obama is in league with the UN in Libya in an illegal war, but that some rightist down the road may do the same. The other clue as to who is his shilling for was the same old one - "Bush the Tyrant".

Another idiot trapped in left|right, who, while kissing ass, claims to not kiss ass.


Nothing to see here, folks, move along.


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 17:20 | 1355823 America- Some A...
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Left- Right-doesn't matter anyway. They are all bitchez to the uber-rich. They keep the sheep arguing red vs. blue when it's the back and front of the same page. Try removing the "Republican" word from the post and absorb the message.

Americans think they can keep their guns- good luck! Resistance just meets more manpower and bigger calibre weapons in your face.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 20:26 | 1356459 DosZap
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Americans think they can keep their guns- good luck! Resistance just meets more manpower and bigger calibre weapons in your face.

Way to be positive................the British thought the same thing,as did Hitler, and Hirohito.


Maybe so,maybe no, but I do not think the world has seen an armed force of 10-30 million. Engaged in Urban combat.......WHO are they going to send?.

You know anyone going to bring that kind of trained force against Americans on our SOIL?.

Ghost Busters?.

Beware the man with one rifle that knows how to use it.He can take you, and your stuff anytime he wants.


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 20:16 | 1356425 DosZap
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LOL, you get junked for telling truth all the time...keep it up.

While GW Jr., was  (turned out like shi*),he didn't hold a candle to the Sociofacsistprogressive we have now.

Anyone who can't see that, must have been part of the 94% that were color blind,voted  and be damned substance, or voting record,and gave a shit less what his ideology IS.

That 94% has dropped about 20% since '08.

Not that anyone will do great taking the slot, at least we may have a shot at some accountability.

Something he could care less about.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:05 | 1355091 The Heart
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The criminal COVER-UP of the Fukushima radiation and failures are coming out.

People must shine the light on the total shortcomings of the EPA/FDA/UN/NILU/NRC to protect and warn the people of the US and other countries about the hazardous radiation that is daily getting worse. It is a harsh day in Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado today with heavier then usual amounts of radiation coming down on the entire area.

What is also not being mentioned is the UV index in the New Mexico region that is the highest in the nation. It is past the maximum level of 11 and for days has been 12, which causes skin damage after ten minutes.

What is urgently needed is the proper monitoring animations and plume models of the fallout clouds like the ones the NILU were doing before being ordered to stop. At least then people can know which areas and days are heavier than usual and have the foresight knowledge to warn them to stay indoors on those days like today.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:09 | 1355106 SheepDog-One
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Hell just today an F16 with a NUCLEAR WEAPON onboard crashed in hear anything about that on the Blowhorn?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:18 | 1355144 Conrad Murray
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Clarification: Happened Tuesday, not today. And what is your source for the nuclear claim?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:39 | 1355230 SheepDog-One
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Original news report was 2 not 1 jets were flying, 1 crashing with a nuclear weapon onboard. Changed within the hour to 1 jet and no mention of any nuclear weapon.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:05 | 1355103 Abiotic Oil
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I recommend "The Slaves Shall Serve" by James Wasserman for a good overview of the UN's ongoing power grab.

This is a "UN Free Zone" where I live in Orygun, as put in place by the sovereign citizen voters.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:25 | 1355160 CIABS
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where exactly is that?  or is it true of the whole state?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:39 | 1355235 Abiotic Oil
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Grant County.

Ha! someone junked us.  Classic.

Generally though, east of the Cascades you will find this attitude prevalent.

Portland and Eugene though have been taken over by Kalifornians and their entitlement culture.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 16:56 | 1355696 CIABS
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are you a transplant?  i've wondered about that town called john day.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 20:32 | 1356482 DosZap
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Portland and Eugene though have been taken over by Kalifornians and their entitlement culture


God help you....................rather fight Islamofascists.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 20:28 | 1356477 DosZap
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The UN has NO clue how hated they are....................despised, and how many are waiting on them to SET  one armed foot on these shores against Americans.

We supported them since inception, and they screw us at every vote..............cannot remember when the UN was for anything America did, except sign a check.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:05 | 1355104 nevadan
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Moreover, if anything, I think recent years have proven that things work much better at the local level and we need to start aggressively moving power and sovereignty back to the states and our local communities.  The states are very powerful under the Constitution.  Remember the 10th Amendment states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”  We have the power people, let’s start using it.  If we start getting active and independent in our states and communities now, the harder it will be for the Federal or Global thugs to succeed in their power grab when things get really hard. 

I couldn't agree more, but as a practical matter states rights died at Appomattox.  Until some state governor makes a stand and the people of his state vigorously support him the 10th ammendment is null and void.  Any attempts to overwrite federal edicts will meet strong resistance.  Look what happened to South Carolina et al.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:05 | 1355105 LawsofPhysics
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"If we start getting active and independent in our states and communities now, the harder it will be for the Federal or Global thugs to succeed in their power grab when things get really hard."

I agree, and while I know my neighbors well and the local business owners well, this is not the case for the average citizen.  Moreover, this effort must be broad-based, any one community or state (with a couple exceptions) rising up against the status quo will only identify the U.N.'s first target.  But multiple state doing so, would be formidable.  In America, this effort is also going to have to be multi-cultural or it simply won't work, good luck with that.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:06 | 1355111 nah
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the UN is all about saving people for themselves?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:11 | 1355116 A Man without Q...
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Sorry, but the author clearly has no understanding about how the U.N. works. 


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:10 | 1355124 Rodent Freikorps
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Seems Mike Krieger is getting his 15 minutes of moron fame.


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:13 | 1355135 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Yea he forgot to mention how the Anti Christ runs the whole thing and that's how we will take over the whole world.


*****makes a wanking gesture****

This article is garbage and he's trying to appeal to retards.


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 16:18 | 1355539 I_ate_the_crow
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As you so clearly evidence, religion is the antithesis of reason and common sense. Bush was the anti-christ to religious democrats, now Obama is the anti-christ to religious republicans. Get your head out of your bible and expand your understanding of the world, this is so much bigger than the President of the USA. The macro "retards" around these parts are trying to protect the Bill of Rights, a task that would be a lot easier without mother fucking morons like yourself providing cover for the real enemies of our constitutional republic.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 20:37 | 1356500 DosZap
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LOL, I remember people thought JFK was the AntiChrist...............

Every POTUS since I have been born, some goofy group thinks is the AC.

Trust me, when he comes, you WILL know HIM.

The way things are going, it appears the Almighty is starting the wind up right now.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:09 | 1355118 espirit
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This should be a lesson in humanity (or lack thereof).  All the low hanging fruit has been picked off and the next course of action will be to take it away from those that reach higher.

Bottom line is we have to work together to survive or... not.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:14 | 1355126 Conrad Murray
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Crush the tyrants. Arrest them, try them, execute them in public, and broadcast it on every single channel for a week straight.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:12 | 1355130 tony bonn
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mike man, i love you like a son but where did you get that f-tarded idea that obama is not a republican? he is also a democrat....he is whatever the plutocrats want him to be.....but above all he is a blood thirsty war mongerer who sees somebody else's oil as his birthright just as he sees the presidency as his birthright even though he is an indonesian citizen born in kenya....

thanks for observing the u.n. power grab....the rockefellers did not cede exceptionally valuable manhattan property to this new agency for the advancement of nazi causes for nothing....

even better was your insight about false coke/pepsi divide which has been an astounding psyops campaign which began in earnest during the reagan party right or wrong....

nosireebob, don't waste a perfectly good crisis...

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 04:35 | 1357163 gorillaonyourback
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no obama is a puppet, i doubt he even understands what he is told to say

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:37 | 1355154 JR
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UN, EU, IMF…all routes lead to the same target for the cartel.

ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet, for example, suggests that when “financial assistance” and “strong adjustment” don’t help floundering EU members put themselves right then “authorities” simply take them over…lock and key.

This would mean, according to Trichet, “giving euro authorities a much deeper and authoritative say”… “a direct influence, well over and above the reinforced surveillance that is presently envisioned.”

In his speech accepting the “Charlemagne” prize at Aachen, Germany this month Trichet outlined what appears to be the thrust of a dictatorship for Europe, beginning with the takeover of floundering nations :

In the present concept, all the decisions remain in the hands of the country concerned, even if the recommendations are not applied, and even if this attitude triggers major difficulties for other member countries. In the new concept, it would be not only possible, but in some cases compulsory, in a second stage for the European authorities – namely the Council on the basis of a proposal by the Commission, in liaison with the ECB – to take themselves decisions applicable in the economy concerned.

“One way this could be imagined is for European authorities to have the right to veto some national economic policy decisions. The remit could include in particular major fiscal spending items and elements essential for the country’s competitiveness.”

Once there is veto power over a parliament, of course, that’s the end of that parliament.  Nothing can go through without higher approval.

Says Economist Michael Hudson:  By ‘unsound economic policies,’ Mr. Trichet means not paying debts – by writing them down to the ability to pay without forfeiting land and monopolies in the public domain, and refusing to replace political and economic democracy with control by bankers. Twisting the knife into the long history of European idealism, he deceptively depicted his proposed financial coup d’état as if it were in the spirit of Jean Monnet, Robert Schuman and other liberals who promoted European integration in hope of creating a more peaceful world – one that would be more prosperous and productive, not one based on financial asset stripping.”

Here is Trichet’s “deceptively” misinterpreted use of Monnet: “Jean Monnet in his memoirs 35 years ago wrote: ‘Nobody can say today what will be the institutional framework of Europe tomorrow because the future changes, which will be fostered by today’s changes, are unpredictable.’

Asks Trichet:In this Union of tomorrow, or of the day after tomorrow, would it be too bold, in the economic field, with a single market, a single currency and a single central bank, to envisage a ministry of finance of the Union?”

Answers Trichet: “Not necessarily a ministry of finance that administers a large federal budget. But a ministry of finance that would exert direct responsibilities in at least three domains: first, the surveillance of both fiscal policies and competitiveness policies, as well as the direct responsibilities mentioned earlier as regards countries in a ‘second stage’ inside the euro area; second, all the typical responsibilities of the executive branches as regards the union’s integrated financial sector, so as to accompany the full integration of financial services; and third, the representation of the union confederation in international financial institutions.”

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:22 | 1355162 plocequ1
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Who's Mike Krieger?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:55 | 1355290 pazmaker
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who is John Galt?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:27 | 1355165 Franken_Stein
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from Basler Zeitung (Basel newspaper)

Privat-Jets konnten an der Bilderberg-Konferenz nicht landen

(Private jets couldn't land at Bilderberg conference)


Das Wetter machte den Teilnehmern der geheimnisumwitterten Bilderberg-Konferenz in St. Moritz einen Strich durch die Rechnung: Sie konnten nicht per Flugzeug anreisen, sondern mussten mit der Limousine vorlieb nehmen.


Bad weather compromised the neatly worked out schedule of the participants of the secretive Bilderberg conference in St. Moritz:

They weren't able to arrive by plane and had no choice but to go by limousine.


David Rockefeller arriving at Bilderberg meeting today, 03:20 p.m.:


[Please copy JPEG into file, open with MSPaint, invert colors (Ctrl+U) and you are in for a surprise]


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:34 | 1355191 the not so migh...
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Afer inverting I still don't get it,, explain

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:42 | 1355226 Franken_Stein
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Can't you see the silhouette ?

That nose !

Only a Rockefeller has such a nose.


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:35 | 1355417 SoNH80
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Wonder when TD will tender a Bildeberg article.....

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:29 | 1355172 Silver Dreamer
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Blue helmets will be fire upon on sight.  I DO NOT pity anyone who's on American soil, attempting to use force against We the People, and wearing blue or any other foreign colors.

Let them try.  How would they enforce it?  Americans will not line up to turn in their weapons as the English and Aussies did.  Sorry, it isn't going to happen.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:37 | 1355222 Alcoholic Nativ...
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You tell em!  Hopefully U.S. soldiers will be on our side and give orders and leadership when the the U.N. decides to invade us.


*****makes wanking gesture*****

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:41 | 1355224 Conrad Murray
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It's funny that so many idiots in America don't understand this principle better. We allow the government and media to label people in other countries expressing the same sentiment "insurgents" or "terrorists". Fuck em. When freedom is outlawed, only outlaws will be free.

sic semper evello mortem tyrannis

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:13 | 1355338 RockyRacoon
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Old stats, but:

In 2005, 14,575,484 hunters purchased 35,609,605 different licenses, tags and stamps at an average cost of $20.32 each. Total sales reached $723,712,681.

Hell, just the turkey hunters alone would make a HUGE army, and they know how to camo-up.  Ever fire a 12 ga loaded for turkey?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 21:36 | 1356652 Cathartes Aura
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ever watched Errol Morris' documentary Vernon, Florida?

some turkey huntin' action in there. . . o.m.g.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:31 | 1355407 Shameful
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Sigh, ok here is how I would take out US.  1st guns are a red herring, just apply a little psychology.  Make the guns work for you.  How you ask, simple.  Make the police state grid, if someone resits you fight with cops/troops.  You get a mass resistance that's cool, siege.  Look at major towns, with the resources to mount any real resistance, and look at their supply lines.  With a handful of men and air power it would be easy to simply cut food, water, power to the city.  Then one merely needs a few armored fighting vehicles (air power a bonus to strafe the roads) blocking roads and wait for the city to turn into a den of cannibals and gun wielding killers (I'd give it 1 month on the outside).  Give it a few months and even the most hardcore would surrender unconditionally.

As an added bonus the psychological effect of such a siege would force other cities in line, worked for Genghis Khan.  And really requires very little in the way of fighting, really a sit action.  As the US is not used to having backup stores or dealing with situation without power.  And with the majority loving the state they would be screaming to just give in at the slightest threat of a fight.

Is that extreme you bet, but it's not like these people aren't afraid to get a little blood on their hands.  And this is using normal weapons, God only knows if they are willing to dip into the fun bio or chemical weapon pile.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 16:18 | 1355540 RockyRacoon
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Folks from the other "grids" would come in and attack from the rear.  How do you stop that?

You think there would be no resistance from surrounding areas?


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 17:45 | 1355904 Shameful
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Stop it?  How would they attack?

1. Media control.  The offenders would be labeled evil, women hating, baby eating muslim/christian/satanist extremists, terrorists who hate America and freedom.  Well guess what the average American is asleep and will take the path of least effort.

2.  Such an occurrence would happen during great economic duress.  Would the good old boys pile into pickups with shotguns and drive to the town to fight?  How they organize?  How would they gas up?

3.  Good old boys vs armored combat vehicles.  Unless the commanders are full on retarded they will open up wide kill zones and use the full effect of their superior firepower and armor to decimate any feeble, uncoordinated, and inadequate attack.  Since in a siege all the troops need to do is dig in at chock points and fend off possible human wave attacks with machine gun fire.  God forbid air power is a factor!

4.  They don't need to hold the city per say. With the structure of modern life simply bombing and mining the roads and filling them with wrecked vehicles would prevent an escape and allow for supplies to be cut off.  Add limited boming of water and power treatment and makes for good times.  This is why it would take so few to run an effective siege.

So no I don't think there would be much resistance.  You look at the way we fight in Iraq, well I'm pretty sure they would be a lot more heartless dealing with Americans.  So far Americans have put up with being raped financially, having their wives and children irradiated and groped and nary a peep.

The best chance America has is the looters will be to good, and they will steal so much and get the troops bogged down in so many overseas conflicts that they can no longer afford to pay their enforcers without taking money out of their own pockets.  Then maybe it will be a less police state style collapse.  But it depends on how much they want to show us the iron fist.  It's there and can be used if they so wish.  I think it's more likely that Americans will fumble along and the oligarchy will use us in one last massive war while hollowing us out and moving on to greener pastures.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 18:49 | 1356078 Green Leader
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"I think it's more likely that Americans will fumble along and the oligarchy will use us in one last massive war while hollowing us out and moving on to greener pastures."

And with a new currency...

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 16:24 | 1355541 JR
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Yes. The mistake so many make is in using today’s situation to predict what will happen tomorrow.

As the political climate worsens in America, there will come a critical moment when mass opinion will switch to create an entirely different environment, pregnant and radioactive to the point where a spark can set it off. And I know what that spark will be:

With anti-government resentment exploding as the government continues to make serfs of the people, the tyrants will move on the people to get the guns – beginning with the gun registration lists.  And that’s it, so to speak.  That’s what will trigger revolution.

That’s what triggered the insurrection in Virginia led by Patrick Henry after Governor Dunmore seized gun powder from the militia armory in the capital of Willamsburg, with the result that "a company of volunteers, to the number of 150, suddenly armed themselves, and with Patrick Henry, Esq. (one of the Delegates elect to the general Continental Congress at Philadelphia) at their head, made forced marches";  the Governor and his family skedaddled aboard a British Man of War on the James Rivers.

In New England the sequence of events which would immediately help to spark the Revolution "began with General Gage's attempt to confiscate the arms which various private organizations had stored in private houses in Lexington and Concord. The immediate response was prolonged sniper action by hundreds of individually armed colonists (the 'unorganized militia') which decimated the British forces…"

Such was the spark wrought by America’s heritage for freedom – a heritage that still lives, that is like none other heritage in the world.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 03:45 | 1357117 AnAnonymous
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With anti-government resentment exploding as the government continues to make serfs of the people, the tyrants will move on the people to get the guns – beginning with the gun registration lists.  And that’s it, so to speak.  That’s what will trigger revolution.


Anti government resentment? So why so many US citizens flocking at the doors of US military institutions?


No, you are confusing anti government resentment and a government pressure on keeping the US people accountable for their decisions as a nation.

Just as soon to become US citizens hated on the King to enforce the Indians' property rights, today's US citizens hate on their government for not writing off national debt and stuff like that.


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:26 | 1355173 Spastica Rex
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I used to be the "left." I despise Obama with every fiber of my being. I will vote for anyone besides Obama in '12 - not becasue I think I will be provided with a better choice, nay, because it's the only thing I can do to punish that rat-bastard.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:39 | 1355234 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Good move cause Obama is the most leftist president in the history of the U.S. Good to see people waking up.  Too bad, after he killed Osama on may 2nd his 2nd term is almost assured.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:12 | 1355339 falak pema
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Obama is the face of the left with the heart and soul of the Oligarchy, by proxy. Which amounts to the same as if it were his own. 'Cos in politics you are what you do, not what you pretend to be.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:44 | 1355440 SheepDog-One
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You think Obama killed Osama? Baaa ha ha haaaaaa

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:28 | 1355183 TruthInSunshine
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Don't worry, those Bilderberg Invitees are just probably secretly discussing how the earth needs to shed 9/10ths of its human 'luggage,' or something along those lines, and the most efficient and agreeable means to get this accomplished.

You know...routine discussions to them.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:32 | 1355196 BlackholeDivestment
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What happens when you put the U.N. in front:





Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:33 | 1355199 Exposer of Inte...
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""the UN seems to be trying to position itself as a “world government” savior of sorts""

Who that had a Bible didn't know what was coming?  Oh, that's right the propaganda AGAINST it has long taken root and most folks here have been BRAINWASHED into thinking it's not the word of God so they can "accept" the anti-Christ's one world government which WILL come, like it or not.  If you're not saved, you can get saved now.

Zephaniah 3:8 Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.



Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:41 | 1355241 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Preach it brother!

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:55 | 1360092 gorillaonyourback
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why don't you go send him a donation idiot

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:46 | 1355250 Rodent Freikorps
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There are no gods.

Save yourself.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:45 | 1355257 Sweet Chicken
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Enough with the biblical apocalyptic bullshit please.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:05 | 1355315 BlackholeDivestment
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Hey Chicken, who put that stupid pyramid on the debt note? you like the occult version of U.N.Becoming?

Wake up, your shits in the wind. The Truth is not a choice, Chicken, every knee shall bow. This is the last generation, fear not, in the name of our Father in Christ, stand fast and do no harm.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:39 | 1355424 Weimar Ben Bernanke
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What is next Ragnarok is coming?!

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 16:39 | 1355576 BlackholeDivestment
BlackholeDivestment's picture silly, first you will see some ass, like O'Bomba  rise to power and then a false peace with Israel and all the nations, which is of course broken a few years after, big time.

P.S. the way, how is it that you can be President and sit in the U.N.Security Chair?

Answer: You are the lawless one.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:37 | 1355223 Djirk
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Hitler came after the Wiemer republic economic the US going to go on a land grab genocide attack if the economic meltdown happens

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:44 | 1355232 Rodent Freikorps
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And we'll use Mexican mercenaries.

All we need is an Alejandro el Grande. ;)

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 14:52 | 1355273 Franken_Stein
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What Noam Chomsky said there,

was also formulated by Germany's national poet,

Johann Wolfgang Goethe some 200 years ago:


"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those, who falsely believe they are free."


Or, as I would say:

"The safest prison is the one whose walls  are invisible."



Interestingly Goethe also had this to say:

"Am Golde hängt, zum Golde drängt doch alles."


(On gold everything depends, to gold everyone rushes.)


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:00 | 1355303 Shell Game
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Excellent article, Mike.  We need a new awakening of a deep distrust of federalized government. Only then can we rebuild from the community up and preserve liberty.  Onward and upward, bitchez.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:05 | 1355306 alien-IQ
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Wonderful article as usual Mike! David DeGraw ( is a terrific site for those here that have not read is highly recommended. The toughest thing about taking the red pill is the first week afterward. The profound depression that comes with the realization that everything you have been taught and told has been one massive collective lie. But then comes the moment when you shake off the cobwebs and rediscover your ability to think and absorb real knowledge and information and it's like...being born with a fully developed brain. You feel vibrant. And it's very very exciting.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:05 | 1355326 apberusdisvet
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Another false flag coming, just like 9/11.  The low grumblings and murmurings from the sheeple are now palpable to even the most corrupt in the WH and Congress.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:10 | 1355344 jakethesnake76
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Beautiful article Tyler, i signed up for that protest on facebook there's one happening in my area. Anyways thanx for the info ......

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:23 | 1355380 Aductor
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And while we're at it let's not forget those black unmarked helicopters in Wyoming. Seriously, since when did the UN end being the playground for the superpower(s)?

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:26 | 1355381 Piranhanoia
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Some countries train people from other countries to repress and control their citizens.  Been going on a long time.

When do you think BS News networks will be the ones to tell us it is a good idea that mercenary extranational troops have come to quell riots and complaints by US citizens?  You have to have someone kill that has no direct relations to their targets. Note that riot police asked to do their jobs often turn against their boss and join the crowd that includes their families.  

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:56 | 1355399 Weimar Ben Bernanke
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What the hell can the UN do? It is a useless instituion that has no power. Think about those UN peacekeepers cannot keep peace let alone disarm a population. The EU is collapsing and the UN is irrelevant and has no power. It is just a weak confederation of nations. We are wasting our time in the UN because it does nothing really. They take our tax dollars and blow on hookers and coke. On the UN small arms ban treaty. It will not pass unless Odumbo wants a civil war. Seriously how will the UN disarms Yemeni citizens. They are the most heavily armed people on earth? How will they diarm those militias in the mideast,east asia,and africa. Will blue helemets be coming in the US to disarm the people? Give me a break,junk me all you want but this article is nonsense. The UN is a weak incompent group who cannot stop an armed robbery if they tried. Let them bring peacekeepers and all they will get is bodybags.  All international treaties require the approvalof two-thirds of the Senate before they are considered ratified and in effect.

In  fact there is a  provision in the resolution’s preamble – included at the request of the U.S. – explicitly recognizes the right of nations to regulate gun sales and ownership within their borders, including through their constitutions:

UN General Assembly Resolution A/C.1/64/L.38/Rev.1, Oct. 28: "…Acknowledging also the right of States to regulate internal transfers of arms and national ownership, including through national constitutional protections on private ownership, exclusively within their territory…"

So the UN/Rothschild/Lucifer worshippers/alien reptile are not coming to take our guns.

junks away!


Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:49 | 1355455 lizzy36
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Calm, sensible, logical.

The man knows of what he speaks.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:46 | 1355459 falak pema
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Who has ever seen a harem eunuch overseer ever grabbing power from his all powerful Sultan?

The UN has lived with 5 oligarchs who have had unique veto powers, and two of whom have denatured its mandate of world debate forum and collective decision making by vetoing over forty years any fruitful decisions, like in the ME stand-off and its tragic fall-out, for reasons of what? The cold war stand off. Now this cold war is over and the UN could have become a forum of constructive decision making...Instead we had the unilateral US NWO which led us for crazy hubristic reasons into the deep financial pit we find ourselves in...In the wake of this greatest betrayal of free world the US elite..we now have the pendulum swing and the world cries out for the inordinate weight of this financial deadwood called the USD hegemony to end; for fruitful decisions to unfurl to end the OIL PAtch dictatorship imposed on the world by the US-Saud criminal alliance. To release Palestinian and other neighboring peoples to shed their weight of surrogate military regimes propped by the mad miltarist cold war scramble that has tarnished for decades all of the ME as the rest of the world with dictatorial regimes.

Instead of welcoming this evolution we see a populist reaction in ZH as elsewhere to deny the rest of the world this feeble dose of oxygen to feed new hope, aka the arab jasmine revolution.  Its incomprehensible how nature imposes old prejudices, how difficult it is to revert to an open mind which accepts differences and power sharing; not paranoid reaction to cherish old dreams of 'hegemony' disguised as 'free world leadership'.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:48 | 1355465 invention13
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Why does noone protest?

Simple, no draft. The risk of getting yanked out of whatever you are doing, sent overseas and having your ass shot off really clarifies your mind.

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 15:57 | 1355486 Diamond Jim
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It is more than the UN coming to take guns away, or impose "taxes" on us. It started many years ago with the Tri-lateral Commission. Big time $$$ was tied into this and their belief in a one world economy and government. The Obamoids are just hurrying the day of reckoning. Ds and Rs in CONgress are tied into it as well. The euroids are already there. The faster they collapse the dollar the sooner the day of One World Socialist Government, the seat of power by default will be NYC in that flat high rise building by the East River. But maybe that too will go to Brussels.

Granted the UN in its present form is powerless, its futile attempts to make peace in the world etc are numerous. But when it all goes down the tubes, they will be there, with open arms. They will pick the new World Emperor....guess who ?? No, not the Bernank, but the puppet who made the end result a sure thing...the Puppet Masters have already pre-ordained this day..... some thought of him as the devil reincarnate, we better know him as...the Community Organizer. Hail o' Great One........

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 00:37 | 1356979 Sunshine n Lollipops
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Who, just coincidentally, is a Nobel peace prize recipient, which will give him tremendous gravitas. Would also explain why his country of birth is irrelevant. As a citizen of the world, he's the perfect man to represent all of mankind. What a magnificent plan.

Indeed, hail Lord Obama!

Thu, 06/09/2011 - 16:13 | 1355527 overmedicatedun...
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meanwhile we are now bombing yemen.

the congress is silent..

the elite rulers are rather ruthless on the road to NWO. but when was it ever not so. except the public if it cares is now on to them.

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