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Minnesota Joins New Jersey In Insolvency, Shuts Down, Harbinger Of Debt Ceiling Negotiation Outcome?
Two down. 48 to go until Meredith Whitney is proven correct beyond a reasonable doubt. After New Jersey was forced to reach out to JP Morgan for an emergency bridge loan a few days ago, it is Minnesota's turn. From ABC: "Minnesota's government has shut down, ahead of the holiday weekend, for the second time in six years after state leaders failed to find common ground on resolving a $5 billion budget deficit. Thousands of state workers will be laid off, state parks will be shuttered, the issuance of fishing licenses will be halted and the Minneapolis zoo will be closed. Road projects will also grind to a standstill just as people hit the road for the holiday. A midnight deadline passed without an agreement as talks between Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton and top Republicans unraveled over Dayton's proposal to impose taxes on the state's top earners, a move on which top GOP officials have refused to budge...Some programs that will continue unabated include critical services including the State Patrol, prisons, disaster response and federally funded health, welfare and food stamp programs." Granted this is not a first: "Only four other states -- Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Tennessee -- have had shutdowns in the past decade, some lasting mere hours. Minnesota's government partially shut down under then-Gov. Tim Pawlenty in 2005 over a budget fallout." However, if NJ is any indication, as predicted, expect ever more states to bypass the municipal route of funding, and appeal directly to commercial banks. Which will generously provide as much Fed-generated one and zeros...in exchange for 80% LTV collateral of course.
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A midnight deadline passed without an agreement as talks between Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton and top Republicans unraveled over Dayton's proposal to impose taxes on the state's top earners, a move on which top GOP officials have refused to budge.
"It's significant that this shutdown will begin on the Fourth of July weekend," Dayton said in a news conference late Thursday night. "On that date we celebrate our independence. It also reminds us there are causes and struggles worth fighting for."
Dayton said he has been clear with state GOP leaders for several months that that he is unwilling to agree on anything other than a total budget approach.
GOP leaders said the two sides were closer than Dayton is leading on, and have criticized his refusal to call a special session to pass a "lights on" budget bill, which would maintain safety funding at current levels to keep government running. GOP leaders have said that the bill is a two-page document that is ready to be passed, according to Minneapolis- St. Paul ABC News affiliate KSTP.
"I think the governor's insistence that we pass a full budget is not going to be of much comfort to Minnesotans who are going to see delays on the highways because construction projects stop," Senate Majority Leader Amy Koch said. "It's not going to comfort people who can't use our state parks, or who can't get a driver's license."
If the Minnesota impasse is any indication of the future of the debt ceiling debate, in which republican don't actually fold like a cheap suit, get your VIX, MOVE and popcorn calls ready in late July.
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Thanks, hedgeless. Kindly credit Sophist Economicus. His sentiment is an inspiration and example to us all.
keep your fukin two bit jon dear crap in the driveway.
i ain't paying a dime for it.
if the roads fall apart tough.
Not 1 peeny of my tax money is going to fill your damn pothole.
Buy a Hummer, bitch.
Please move to Iowa, we do not need yo uhere.. MN has diverted so much gas tax money to bike paths and trians that no one rides the roads suffer. This is not a revenue problem, $34 billion for 5 million people wtf.. It is the leaches like tough guy here who will never stop until we are all sucked dry.
Do you have connections to Federal Highways perhaps? Maybe you could diagram the Federal government's process for building roads? No? Oh that's right, you're a total moron. Guess what? The government hires private companies to build its freeways. Of course, to build a road the government adds all manner of impact studies and other nonsense which makes it incredibly expensive. Oh yeah, if we didn't have big government, there'd be no roads. What a total clueless moron you are.
Sounds good inasmuch as the government organization can be democratic.
The belief that undemocratic organizations (corporations like Halliburton, XE, Goldman Sachs, etc.) are good and better because they are "private" (i.e. formed under the laws and protections of government) is nonsensical.
Two friends and I just voted to have you buy lunch for the three of us. It's democratic and stuff.
I believe private organizations are better because they can fail when they fuck up. Funny how things get even more fucked up when we apply the power of the state to pick winners and losers and support entire industries. Actually, it's not funny. It's fucking sickening, and what's even worse is when all the damned, pig-ignorant, Keynesian clowns come out of the woodwork and have a state lovefest because the state is "democratic," for the "public good." Yeah, we're so democratic that when the public comes down 300-1 against TARP, our democratic leaders vote for it anyway. And all those wars the public is not in favor of, pure democracy right there, buddy. All this democracy is making me downright giddy.
Any contention that our current government is democratic is mistaken, your sarcasm notwithstanding.
So the park rangers will not be there with their new $40,000 truck with $20,000 lights on top.....to check on me to see if i have my $8.00 park fee so they can buy another new truck with lights....
Fishing license...I don´t think the fish will leave because you don´t have one..again its a tax...an added cost..
Potholes....how many Minnesotians does it take to fix a pothole...? or it should be how many Union government employees does it take to fix a minnesota pothole....1,000´s..they are all on break...
Less government is good...less relience on government is better...personal responsibility if required...
The park rangers won't be there if someone is drunk and shooting a gun somewhere around your camp, or if you are injured hiking a trail.
How many ZH'ers does it take to fix a pothole? I'm waiting for one to step up. Where's your asphalt spreader?
Sorry, we are all drinking, shooting, and camping this weekend.
Maybe, before you go hiking, you should first start here...
http://www.google.com/search?q=wilderness+medical&rlz=1I7GGLD_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7#hl=en&pq=wilderness%20medical&xhr=t&q=wilderness+medicine&cp=15&pf=p&sclient=psy&rlz=1I7GGLD_en&source=hp&aq=0&aqi=&aql=&oq=wilderness+medi&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=329e09af82b704db&biw=1073&bih=826
You may find this hard to understand, but some like the wilderness because it is wild. There isn't a nurse and a Starbucks every 400 meters.
Exactly....so if you are injured ..and I come upon you..can I help you..or will you only wait for a park ranger...can we not help ourselves....????
Drunk and shooting a gun....that seems to be a low blow...the gun owners I know are responsible...you move your campsite if you are afraid.....or you talk to them...or join the party...if they are shooting at you..shoot back...that is called self defense...and yes you take out your own garbage...don´t do the stupid stuff...its survival of the fittest...or the smartest....whatever...
Survival of the fittest eh? Well if you want to live in the 19th century you can, but I don't want to. I like environmental laws, worker protections, public health and road repair. I don't want to work on Cannery Row for slave wages in dangerous conditions. I don't want to send young children down in coal mines. Your family would work for robber barons and be ruthlessly exploited. That ain't freedom.
Then stay away from these Socialist countries:
What's your point here? These are the countries that are getting our corporation's jobs.
After losing 55K men to Vietnam, Bush signed a free trade agreement with them. If he were a real patriot, he would have told them where to go.
These are Socialist countries where the people are slaves to "leaders" that are willing to trade their people's productivity and national resources for FRNs and a seat at the adult table in Davos.
Also, on average, their roads, public health systems, and environments all suck compared to capitalist nations.
OK, you seem to be agreeing with Internet Tough Guy then.
I come from a family of coal miners. Grandfather started at 14. I just showed him what you wrote and he thinks you are a pussy. He lives with me now and at the age of 89. That's because we take care of our own and we don't look for handouts. We learned along time ago that the real slavery is too government and not too private companies. I can quit a job. It takes a lot longer to fix a government.
+1
Dong, where is Grandpa's car?
Flag as awesome (+1)
Move to NY
Are you really that stupid? They have private companies collect taxes for them on gasoline sales to repair the roads. Then they use that road repair money for parks and bike trails and everything but road and bridge repair. Using your philosophy, the USSR would have been worker's paradise on earth. Instead it was hell on earth. Fool.
I know PLENTY of gun owners that are batshit crazy and have been for 20 years.
Guess what, that's life baby. Get over your "specialness" sweety.
couple of shots returned will fix that.
oh what you don't own anything to shoot back , wel then stay out of the woods
bitch.
if you are injured hiking a trail then tough. stay off the trails.
We pay high taxes here, and STILL have shitty roads covered in pot holes!
Please tell me you are not a Minnesotan.
Damn it, I paid for a MNDOT woker to stand there leaning on a shovel when I smash my axle and I expect to see one!
Don't you think it's a problem that you have to beg the government for a fishing license? What the fuck happened to this country? Americans 100 years ago would be shocked to see what's going on.
Americans 100 years ago sent their young children to work in dangerous factories and coal mines for slave wages. I think they would be ok with buying a fishing license.
So, if you upgrade slavery, that makes it OK?
Avoided the point. Government control for security / safety net leads us to Greece / USSR. Fine balance my ass. Government only ever increases until things explode.
Whenever humans form organizations, those organizations have potential benefits, as well as the potential for abuse of power.
There is no final end-point of perfection. It is the human predicament.
Although I agree that total control (totalitarianism) is not satisfactory,
neither is no control (lawlessness and anarchy).
Anarchy != Chaos, dictionary definitions notwithstanding.
Well, I'm not OK with it. You refuse to cut spending? That's fine. You have to borrow to keep spending. Keep borrowing and borrowing until it blows up like the USSR. Then I win when the government implodes. Enjoy the foodstamps.
keep your kids out of bondage! Buy fishing licenses!! Better hide your kids in minnesota until they open the License centers!
Are you reading an 8th grade civics book?
Agreed. Get some balls an go fishing anyway. While you are at it go to the state parks and do whatever it is you would normally do. Stop being pussies. How are we going to stand up against the really bad decisions if we are afraid to stand up against the idiotic ones.
As long as NJ doesn't shut down it's state parks, I have reservations for camping all through NJ this next week at the state parks. Closing state parks is sad, that is where families can go and enjoy nature. They operate from money received from visitors at that time, so it is funny how they are closing parks that provide money from people visiting.
"Buffalo Bill": It rasies taxes. It does this whenever it is told.
Voter: Mister... my family will pay cash. Whatever ransom you're askin' for, they'll pay it.
"Buffalo Bill": It raises taxes on itself and kin or else it gets the hose again.
[to his dog, Precious]
"Buffalo Bill": Yes, it will, Precious, won't it? It will get the hose!
Voter: Okay... okay... okay. Mister, if you let me go to the State Parks, I won't - I won't vote Republican I promise. See, my vacation is a real important... I guess you already know that.
"Buffalo Bill": Now it places the call to the State Representatives.
Voter: Please! Please I wanna go to the park! I wanna go to the State Park please!
Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb: It raises the taxes on itself.
Voter: I wanna see my Mother Nature! Please I wanna see my...
"Buffalo Bill": Call your representative and tell her to raise the fucking taxes!
LOL! This is great and a little bizarre but accurate.
That was kind of obvious when "they" put a full court press on her after her remarks about municipal debt. Can't have that damn women exposing a naked king.
Minnesota, land of the thousand lakes, not issuing fishing licenses? Say it ain't so Tyler, say it ain't so.
And no zoo over the holiday weekend. Think of what this will do to the kids man.
be glad it isn't snowing.
Man I really thought most ZH types were well beyond the 2 headed 1 party political nonsense for the sheeple herd.
Disheartening, to say the least.
Agreed, just shows how powerful the class warfare card can be in the hands of politicians. It was this retarded mentality and class warfare that caused Dodd / Frank to force banks to lend to degenerates.
You constantly bash one party while agreeing that catering to the two party system is silly.
This seems to be a Dem tactic. Everybody except totally mind numbed lkib robots knows the Kenyan is a nightmare beyond comprehension. So they switch to - both parties are bad.
The GOP sucks but they are a bit less evil than than the Dem/Mugabe/African dictator/marxist party.
It's the way it's being played out, though, dawg. The sad thing is that nobody is calling out the dims for feigning resistance. What's going down is pretty baldly clear.
Dog,
While we love to proclaim we have awakened and are free of our mental shackles, it's so much easier to revert to our core programmed conditioning then to apply critical thinking and break from our comforting stereotypes.
It takes true courage to consistently walk the independent path when all around us the herd beckons, no demands, we join the insanity. No one really enjoys being the shunned and ignored black SheepDog-One. :>)
No doubt.
Why ain't you wise guys taking Tyler to task for throwing it out there in those terms, then?! Why errybody pickin' on me? 8>(
Because it's easier to kick the DFH than it is to think. ;-)
Being a true independent is like sitting in a modern movie theatre, trying to desperately keep track of the of the film on screen, despite the fact that it is dumbed-down and sugar-coated for the audience at large, which would rather chat on their iphones, grope each other in the darkness, and theatre hop when the flick loses their interest.
Well yeah but when you see how evil the Dems - they make the other side look pretty good. You pick the master who beats you less - unless your a liberal and want the govt to give you free stuff.
You are a lost cause, mentally shot .
give it up.
You can't have pubs without dims.
99 lashes v 100 lashes.
MASTER another.
FOUR MORE YEARS!
Remember the classic argument: [president before] sucked for [total_time_in_office] = [time allowed] during which to give [current president] allowance for mediocrity.
relax...this is transitory..this too shall pass...( or will be bailed out)
Collapse is transitory, you dont want to see what it transitions to though, as most americans are not special forces trained.
So is this good for just 1, or possibly 2 thousand DOW points?
Yep we'll see 9,000 DOW easily, then 8,000 finally settling around 4,000, of course much to the 401K bathrobe brigades and greatest generation pensioners shock and dismay.
Welcome to the New World Order suckers.
Maybe in a normal world but we live in a bizzaro world.
I was thinking this is enough to get the DOW to at least 13,000, once California implodes we should be around 16,000 on the DOW and lulu will be over 200
Short the close, right?
Good to see the banks finally starting to make small business loans.
I can hear Dimon now: 'I love it when a plan comes together.'
We need that ex governor wrestler to body slam the current governor.
I wish he would body slam Owebama
Someone needs to body slam that Dumbo eared Erkel lookin clown.
but, but, but low income people need houses too! This is nothing but the same shit in different clothes.
Shipping containers....
The future of housing.
If we bring our working conditions in line with the emerging markets producing all the junk people in this country buy, it will be worse than shipping containers. Research emerging market slums.
Anyone else want to form a corporation that makes tin shacks with sticks as support beams? There is a lot of money to be made on the future of our country. You just have to be ahead of the curve.
Doesn't look so bad:
http://www.jetsongreen.com/2008/09/entrepreneurs-t.html
In fact, it looks bigger than my NYC apartment which costs $1950/month...
/absurd
It's not my "cup of tea."
You are paying for the location of your apartment. I recently saw a studio by Central Park for 250K. If I knew I could charge that I may have bought it. I live in one of the less desirable boroughs of NYC.
actually you have described the "manufactured home biz" and yes that has
been a cash cow for years and years.
You ain't seen the real merikans until you have scammed a few thousand in these hellholes.
ahead of the curve not so much.
sorry
Fmr. GOP Sen. Alan Simpson Calls Republican Refusal To Raise Revenue ‘Absolute Bullshit’ | Former GOP Sen. Alan Simpson blasted his intransigent GOP colleagues on the hill today for failing to reach a deal on the deficit. The blunt-talking co-chairman of President Obama’s bipartisan fiscal reform commission slammed Republicans for kowtowing to American for Tax Reform head Grover Norquist (“Republicans can’t be in thrall to him”) and pushed Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner to stand fast on the August 2 deadline. Surveying the lay of the current fiscal land, Simpson said “We’re at 15 percent revenue, and historically it’s been closer to 20 percent.” “We’ve never had a war without a tax, and now we’ve got two,” he added. “Absolute bullshit.”
The battle for the American soul is going perfectly. Take those eyes off the banks / corpororations / political leaders and force the argument through the lense of the two party system.
of course it never occurred to him to end the wars and imperial over-reach.
Ending the war in Iraq would probably save 10B a month (conservative estimate).
The problem is that the Keynesian clowns running this shit-show think that reducing government spending hurts the economy (because Government spending is a component of GDP, and they idiotically use GDP to measure the size of the economy without considering Bastiat's that which is unseen).
peanuts, the health costs , etc. from these two wars are going to be
unreal and will not stop for decades.
We have totally screwed the pooch an O wait, last month we lost the most
in Iraq(that's the war we WON as reported on MSNCC/FOX/CNN) the most in one month since
2008.
Yep. victory mmmm mmmm mmmm , all well worth it.
You seem to support one of those sides.
Edit: I'm not saying that what you say has no truth to it.
OH right, so the fact we're in a 5 front war with no real reason means that taxes must be hiked on bankrupt people and if they dont like it, well thats just BULLSHIT! Youll take 10 year escalating war, and higher taxes on the bankrupt to fund the billionaire banksters and if you dont like it, oh well! Dont people realize theyre simply slaves? Sheesh!
20% under/unemployed are beginning to realize.
Panem et Circenses only works as a distraction when survival is not on one's front burner.
SheepDog, that may be the most succint summary of the last 10 years I've heard. Brilliant!!
We’re at 15 percent revenue, and historically it’s been closer to 20 percent.” “We’ve never had a war without a tax, and now we’ve got two,” he added. “Absolute bullshit.”
we are at 15% because we are in a depression/ recession.......incomes down...taxes will be down..but I think local fees and taxes have taken up the slack
we have 6 wars going on....not just two....and if we are not going to fight them to win...lets get out...and I think we are not..so I am ready to get out...ROI my ass
Quoting a well-known establishment whore like Simpson is not doing much for your case.
I mean, he's on Turbo Tax Tiny Tim's side of this debate - what more do you need to know?
I would just like to point out that all you people who laughed at the Putin/DSK/Conspiracy posts can eat shit now that the case is falling apart and resemble a setup as was claimed.
Next the missing Gold at Fort Knox aspect will be proven correct.
I find the Conspiracy sites, WRH/RENSE for example, tend to be ahead of the curve news wise. Once you weed out the crazy bullshit. The reason for that is Paranoid wacko's pay attention to the details and there is a fucking Army of them out there sharing what they discover as rapidly as their fingers type an Illuminati related rant.
Credit where credit is due, GF! I gotta say, though, that the case against DSK seems to be "falling apart" on extraneous "circumstantial" evidence. She deals weed, knows somebody in prison, etc.? That's classic baggage of the underclass. It doesn't make her allegation false . . . but TPTB may well represent it as such in springing DSK from prosecution. The takeaway me be something all too familiar to the black underclass: Fair game for rape.
huh? There were statistically zero rapes by white men against black women in the latest reporting year. DSK would probably be #1.
Start looking at real data and stop watching Roots.
They are digging around on this woman and surely moves are being made to get her paid to go away, which is probably really all she wants in the first place. I mean, didn't Kobe Bryant pull this same shit on a white girl a few years ago? Cut your apologia YT guilt shit
Zero, lol. You're probably right about being bought off, though. Money talks . . . especially when you clean people's toilets for a living.
Several years ago, I was looking at the FBI crime statistics page. That year, there were 37,000 rapes of white women by black men. That same year, there were zero rapes of black women by white men. Literally, not a single one.
follow the money. if they figure out where it came from then the truth will be known. My guess is it either came from dsk's camp or the anti-dsk camp. i know he was trying to bribe her into changing her story early on.
Mini Greece's popping up everywhere. No mention of austerity. Just Kick the F Can and get with the program.
Well then, its the citizens chance to get out there and tear down those little tolebooth tax collector stations at the entry to every state park, boat ramp, etc. Fish, hunt, camp,boat - do whatever it is you normally would do.
NOW YOUR TALKING. THat stuff is bull.
Burn those fukin things DOWN.
rent collecing bitches, die die die.
THe people can handle the care without pay.
Belgium doesn't even have a government, and hasn't had one for months. Get rid of the parasites! Shut the whole wretched thing down!
btw: "48 to go until Meredith Whitney is proven correct beyond a reasonable doubt."
It doesn't take all 48 to prove her correct beyond a reasonable doubt - does it? C'mon! That's just not reasonable.
Looks like its time for Texas to build a fence - along the Red River to keep all the Yankees out!
"Looks like its time for Texas to build a fence -" to keep the morons in more like it.
If Texas secedes we have to give them a good part of the debt from the Iraq War. You started that Connecticut yankee's career, you deserve the debt.
what about guam and puerto rico?
Reaganomics was instituted. The trouble was he cut taxes and kept on spending. It's obvious by the size of the deficits that government wants to keep spending and to keep lowering taxes. You can't have it both ways, something has to give in a Reaganomics model. That thing is in the process of giving right now. Borrowing to cover budget shortfalls is running out of room to continue. We need to decide what we want government to do and then pay for it. That of course is where the trouble is, nobody can agree on that issue.
Actually, the ruling plutocracy of banksters and war merchants are in near total agreement as to the priorities.
<<< Two down. 48 to go until Meredith Whitney is proven correct beyond a reasonable doubt. >>>
You can forget about including Texas on that list.
Texas State GO Bonds = Higher quality than US Treasuries
Don't Mess with Texas!
"You can all go to HELL! As for me, I'm going to Texas!"
~Davy Crockett
I do feel for Texas. They seem to be able to support their own state (only one of two red states) and yet they still kick in more and more money to the Federal government. I don't feel too horrible for them though, being that they start W's political career.
You keep bringing up this Connecticut born and bred Yankee. Do you have a beef against Connecticut?
Will the KochWhores start the firesale of MN state assets now?
jpm can now buy mn on the cheap with free fed clownbux.
Blood in the streets..
F* the both parties Reps and Dems for playing soap opera
with Rising Debt Limits, like little kids. Getting sick
and tired of this BS.
Here's to hoping for a temporary default!
Does this mean we can adjust our property tax for the weeks they don't get paid? Goddamit we don't need gazillions of fucking tax leaches. I bought a new fishing boat last year and just got a $700.00 'luxury tax' in the mail???? I wasn't aware of this, went to the courthouse to see 20 people behind bullet proof glass who's job is to do nothing but collect tax money. And to top that off some bitch escorts me upstairs to another tax collection department that had at least a dozen people in it. I hate these pieces of fucking shit. Oh.....and this luxury tax is due every year---before you pay your auto tag renewals(more bullshit) and if you don't pay it you can't get new tags! I am seriously considering taking this boat to motown and dropping it off and just say it got stolen lmao. Oh and btw.......my auto taxes go up EVERY year on the same cars that depreciate every year.
Another irk are the county faggots that come out here to the country and pick shit apart, oh you can't do that, oh that's too big, oh will have to add extra tax,....they just come into your yard and start checking shit. I live in the country, I am almost done fencing and gating the entire yard where these cum guzzling fucking whores can't get in. Not only that they stopped this bs after I got a couple good watchdogs and when im done with the fence im getting 2 bull mastiffs so good fucking luck assheads. The screwed up part of this whole situation is I can go into the city and drive down entire city blocks of houses that are literally falling down with people living in them and they're out here fucking with us??? There's only one reason they're out here.......they know we have more money than the poor bastards in town which are no use to them. I will admit i've had a couple run-ins that resulted in the sherrif showing up as I run these bastards off everytime. I have no tolerance, If I ever get a chronical disease or such I am going to just target practice with these pos's.
Oh and btw.....you don't really want to raise too much hell in the courthouse because I witnessed some guy trying it and the clerk said either stop cussing or im having you arrested. A few seconds later Mr. I eat a dozen donuts for breakfast shows up and asks if there's a problem.
These motherfuckers need to die.
And that's my 1 pot of coffee caffeine rant of the am.
Good one. I'd recommend more effective targeting of your ire if--God forbid--you do develop that fatal disease . . . somebody posted the locations of the big banks on another thread this morning, btw.
Great rant, and I agree that chronicle dis eases must be put to good use.
It was a good one.
See...I don't understand this type of statement. Does this mean you are willing and able to kill and you're just waiting for the signal to proceed or are you saying someone else should dirty their hands with this ugly business for you? Or am I missing something else completely?
Because to claim these motherfuckers need to die tells me that you very strongly believe they deserve to die. So why aren't you doing precisely what you think should be done?
For the same reason you or anyone else aren't doing it......jail time. They've effectively divided us all, there's no way large groups are going to have your back, you'll be singled out as a crazy. And because of our lack of a ballsack we are getting ran over left and right. The large crazy gun toting mobs won't form until things are totally finished and by then it will be too late. And you're right, when I see others post that statement I think the same thing as you do and hope and pray that someone actually does it. So I guess we've made progress and are least starting to think about it. That guy that flew his plane into the IRS is my hero. Translation, we're all chickenshits. For now.
Had friends in the country who built a mound system for home sewage as per the law. Very expensive. Next year the county , in order to serve a condo developer, ordered them to hook up to a new sewage disposal system that the county built so condos could go in in their area. The hook up and monthly fees made their new mound system look cheap! They got screwed to the wall, odered to do a mound system 12 months before the county ordered them not to use a mound system! Cost them over 10K dollars in wasted money to meet county rules.
The easiest solution is to move if you can find a job in another state.
those cars "taxes" are not taxes...they are FEES....this is where we are getting eaten alive..the fees are going up and up and up..but when a pólitician says taxes are down..or cut...beware of the difference of taxes or fees..
Just renewed my FL tags online. They now charge a three and a half dollar 'convenience fee'.
My first thought was, 'Convenient for them or us?'
Which reminds of another thing: When I pay my state-mandated car insurance, unless I allow the insurance co. to take the money directly out of my bank acc't, there's an add'l fee. Wanna send 'em a check? That'll cost a little more. This kinda shit drives me fucking nuts. The add-on amounts are just the right size to piss you off but not so high that you'll actually do anything about it. Goddam thieves.
I told my revenuer that next year the online credit card fee will be cheaper than the actual gasoline burned to stand in her office by the court house.
That rant was F-ing awesome.
YEAH MAN! PLUS 25 acres and a HIGH fence with lots of nasty DOGS behind it.
THose fukin little shits, 10 of them wouldn't make one decent productive human.
The democrats are already planning to ignore the debt ceiling statutes by using the 14th amendment. This country is doomed.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Amid fears the United States risks default if lawmakers don't raise the debt ceiling on time, some are suggesting President Obama could save the day by big-footing Congress.
How? By invoking the Constitution and directing Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner to keep borrowing even if it means going past the statutory borrowing limit.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/30/news/economy/debt_ceiling_constitution/Those bastards! Where did they get the idea that they can enforce the Constitution? I thought the red team owned that thing.
The political elites source the Constitution only when it serves their purpose. Otherwise they consider the Constitution archaic trash.
M_M
Or we could go ahead with the GOP plan and kill all entitlements, build more bombs and suck off big business like never before. And please........no comments from over educated unemployed or $8hr workers on how the grand ole pricks are good for the people.
We just can't win with either of these groups of shitheads so yes you're right, we're fucked.
Yep...both parties are corrupt...they only use the constitution when it fits there needs. It's clearly looking like the U.S. citizens only way out of this debt is to overthrow the government (odious debt), have all states leave the union (odious debt), or hyper-inflate the currency. There is no way in hell the U.S. could pay the debt down.
"Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void."
I raised my federal exemptions recently. I recommend those that have not (who aren't self-employed) to do the same. Extra money in my paycheck today that I don't have to worry about getting back in 2012.
Wow, they are going all Humpty Dumpty on the constitution now:
The 14th amendment clearly means that existing debt is authorized. It does not grant the executive power to issue new, additional, unauthorized debt, particularly when there is a congressional statute (the debt ceiling law) prohibiting additional debt.
Really, Orwell would be proud.
But why are those things operating with deficit if they generate revenue? LOL government, it rots everything it touches.
Democrats love pushing these things to the brink because they know in instances of government shutdown it is blamed on the Republicans. Both sides, knowing their ultimate ineffectiveness instead go for posturing, with defending lines in the sand held up as strong principled moves.
btw =>
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL96C1432070AB1B50
STEAK!
I got your message FUU, keep pimpin it homie :D
I know you got booed off the stage steak, but some of us liked your music playlists.
How about one for old time sake?
CD, dude, where's my birthday cake?! I see that I had my 2 year anniversary yesterday . . . and you missed me last year!
This is like a little old timer sub thread here.
I didn't get my cake yesterday either CD! But you did get me last year.
Well look at that! We registered here only hours apart! Happy anniversary then, fuu!
Seems like I don't never get no cake. I'm agonna need therapy at this rate.
CD!
I was late coming over the old site. Lurked for a while before registering here.
Happy 2 years for you too!
Thanks! I was the same about registering here . . . I hung on at blogspot until the fear of losing my username forced me to embrace the change to drupal.
lulz. Perfect.
Nobody who has ever stepped up on stage has never been booed as well, especially anyone standing up in front of this motley crew :D The above link was indeed my latest playlist tho. Not gonna lie, its pretty dam good \o/
I stay up with your writings CD, ya def hold it down
I'll shoot you a link to my new track. I think it's pretty good.
Next stop - riots. Wisconsin was just a warm-up.
BTW, will this impact where the Vikings play next season?
I can't wait to see the riots in Montana!
Mooo.
I blame the Greece. The Greeks started all this and now the poor banks have to come to their rescue. On the other hand it may be prudent to beware of banks bearing gifts.
"Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton and top Republicans unraveled over Dayton's proposal to impose taxes on the state's top earners, a move on which top GOP officials have refused to budge...."
So again - we are led to believe all these problems are due to not enough taxation, and nothing to do with TOO FUCKING MUCH SPENDING.
Seems to me the good shit closes (The horse race track for example) and the bad shit stays open (well VA not bad I guess and maybe a couple of others) . What kind of shutdown is this anyway?
What's opened, what's closed: your guide to the state shutdown-
COURTSWill remain open at all levels.
DRIVER'S LICENSESPeople will be able to renew licenses at driver's license agent offices. Driver tests will not be available. City, county and privately owned offices can distribute tabs and license plates. To find one, go to mndep.com.
EDUCATIONState funding for K-12 schools will continue, but the state Education Department will largely be closed.
HEALTH/HUMAN SERVICESMedical Assistance, MinnesotaCare, food stamps, welfare benefits, child support payments, county child protection services, refugee assistance, supplemental aid and some services for disabled people will continue. Child-care assistance, services for the deaf, Senior and Disability linkage lines, criminal background checks and food shelf distributions will stop. Licensing for food, beverages, lodging and swimming pools could be interrupted. For details, go to the state's BeReady website at bereadymn.com.
HIGHWAY REST STOPSWill close. Three waysides, partners with other entities, will stay open: Brainerd Lakes Welcome Center, Park Rapids Area Welcome Center, Floodwood rest area in St. Louis County.
HISTORICAL SITESMinnesota Historical Society's 26 sites and museums will close, including the History Center, Mill City Museum, Historic Fort Snelling and Split Rock Lighthouse.
HUNTING, FISHING LICENSESWill not be issued. DNR officers will continue enforcement.
LICENSE PLATESState Driver and Vehicle Services Division will be closed, but deputy registrars could renew license plates.
MILITARY/VETERANSVeterans homes will stay open, along with critical assistance programs. Tuition reimbursement claims will stop, and veterans' outreach claims offices will close.
MINNESOTA ZOOWill close to the public. Zoo staff will care for the animals and maintain security. IMAX and zoo concerts will stay open. For updates, go to www.mnzoo.com.
PUBLIC SAFETYState Patrol will stay on. The state's prison system will keep 3,600 of its 4,200 employees, including most of those who deal directly with offenders. Local police will likely be unaffected, since the state will still send local government aid.
RACETRACKSCanterbury Park and Running Aces will close. Canterbury officials are looking for ways to keep at least part of the business open.
STATE COLLEGES, UNIVERSITIESWill remain open.
STATE LOTTERYWill close. You won't be able to buy tickets or redeem winning lottery tickets. Drawings for Powerball, Mega Millions and Hot Lotto will continue, but no luck buying tickets in Minnesota. For more info, go to www.mnlottery.com.
STATE PARKSWill close. For more information, go to www.dnr.state.mn.us.
STILLWATER LIFT BRIDGEWill remain open.
TAXESTaxes will be collected, but no refund checks will go out. Tax Court will be closed.
TRANSPORTATIONMost state-funded road construction projects will stop, except for emergency repairs. Twin Cities buses and rail lines will continue operating. South-metro bus lines will keep operating. Solo motorists will no longer be able to pay to use carpool lanes during rush hours on Interstates 394 and 35W.
UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITSWill be paid.
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTAWill remain open.
The short link gives a clue as to the reason many in the lake state think the governor is just another lying flip flopping mental case politician.
http://www.minnesotamajority.org/Hidden/ManofHisWord/tabid/207/Default.aspx
It's not over until they empty the prisons.