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Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:11 | 881214 Intuition
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:27 | 881260 hardcleareye
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How little things have changed...  substitute Iraq and Afghanistan for Vietnam.  Thanks for the link.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:44 | 881302 bonddude
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I get MLK's peace prize. BO? not so much.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:18 | 881418 BobPaulson
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That's what almost brings me to tears every time I see it. That and the "I've been to the mountaintop" right before he was killed.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:27 | 881659 Winston Smith 2009
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You beat me to it. It applies as much to today as then.

"I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action. But they asked, and rightly so, "What about Vietnam?" They ask if our nation wasn't using massive doses of violence to solve its problems to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without first having spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today: my own government...

At this point I should make it clear that while I have tried in these last few minutes to give a voice to the voiceless in Vietnam and to understand the arguments of those who are called
"enemy," I am as deeply concerned about our own troops there as anything else. For it occurs to me that what we are submitting them to in Vietnam is not simply the brutalizing process that goes on in any war where armies face each other and seek to destroy. We are adding cynicism to the process of death, for they must know after a short period there that none of the things we claim to be fighting for are really involved. Before long they must know that their government has sent them into a struggle among Vietnamese, and the more sophisticated surely realize that we are on the side of the wealthy, and the secure, while we create a hell for the poor."

Martin was assassinated exactly one year to the day after this speech, a speech which everyone around him told him not to make.

Here's an MP3 of this _great_ speech in its entirety:

http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/11901

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:41 | 881297 pan-the-ist
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Here it is transcribed for those without Youtube.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkatimetobreaksilence2.htm

MLK died for these beliefs, TPTB put up with the dream, but didn't like MLK advocating for equality for everyone.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:36 | 881658 Oh regional Indian
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Pan, MLK was killed because his usefulness was at end. Just like his hero, Gandhi.

Pawns, all. Clay-footed charlatans.

ORI

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:27 | 881797 philgramm
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Both had a role and both did some good work but the threat of blood in the streets is what brings real change.  Freedom can never be negotiated.  The man that history has marginalized in the civil rights movement was Malcolm X.   Disclaimer, I am not an angry black guy.   I'm not even black.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:21 | 881969 pan-the-ist
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Palin is a useful idiot, MLK, not so much.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:12 | 881216 Twindrives
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Versus Obama's "I have a scheme speeches?"

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:16 | 881228 Alcoholic Nativ...
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It's an insult to MLK to even compare these two men.  Obama is still killing people in Afghanistan and pakistan due to PEER PRESSURE, not personal beliefs. MLK was a Lion, Obama is pond scum.

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:21 | 881243 Wynn
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what compare? that was funny as hell

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:51 | 881323 bonddude
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Getting the joke in...3...2...1...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:24 | 881620 JW n FL
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Thats some funny shit right there...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:52 | 881328 Sudden Debt
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not officially.

Doesn't it count for anything anymore that that at least try to hide it?

VIVA LAS MEDIA MANIPULATION!

 

IN PROPAGANDA WE TRUST!

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:47 | 881686 The Rock
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Exactly.  If Obama is not proof that it doesn't matter who you put in office, its the PTB (the Rothschilds Tribes) that run the world, then I don't know what is.  The only thing they bought with Obama is a few more years of hopium...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 15:02 | 882208 RingToneDeaf
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Please!

Pond scum has value.

Obammy gonna bring on the Revolution, whether we like it or not.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:30 | 881264 nonclaim
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Isn't O from the moors lineage? The ones the enslaved and traded black africans?...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:53 | 881333 nmewn
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I think he's been pretty clear, he's blaming his mothers side of the tree ;-)

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:01 | 881357 Rodent Freikorps
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"Typical white grandma."

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:03 | 881367 nmewn
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Mmm mmm mmm...LOL.

I believe the country has indeed judged him by the content of his character and not the color of his skin and found it lacking.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:26 | 881624 JW n FL
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lil bush part duex in technicolor? noooooooooooooooooooooooo hes been great, how dare you... spitting image of MLK.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:24 | 881787 Uncle Remus
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Now that's civil. But, you're too kind.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:41 | 882162 nmewn
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"Now that's civil."

Don't get used to it ;-)

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:13 | 881219 eigenvalue
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I have a dream that within a year, the silver price would break $100 per ounce...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:50 | 881320 Sudden Debt
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YES IT CAN!

HALLELUJAH!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:27 | 881627 JW n FL
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31.25lbs X's 4 ='s? X's...

how many here understand that equation?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:17 | 882106 JW n FL
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31.25lbs per 500oz box... seriously? no one... all this talk?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:25 | 881224 Michael
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I have a dream.

Perhaps Barack H. Obama's name on his birth certificate is NOT in all capitol letters, and that is why they won't show his birth certificate.

Perhaps BO was actually selected to be the President so he can turn the United States over to the one world government, the new world order if you will, on a technicality as being the only sovereign natural person left in America, technically, as indicated by his birth certificate.

Somebody call Jordan Maxwell and ask him what it means if somebodies name is not spelled on their birth certificate in all capitol letters. Perhaps it means it is not a valid birth certificate and therefore, with no valid birth certificate, Obama can't be President.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:32 | 881268 Michael
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The International Banking Cartel is like The Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex.

They never cure the disease, they only treat the symptoms.

Member banks get a Bail-Out. Sovereign Countries get a Debt-Injection.

Get it straight why don't you?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:35 | 881278 Sudden Debt
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Strange actually, knowing that the US GOV is like a magician in doing magic trics with paper and are able to print on it whatever they want.

ASK NOT WHERE IS THE PAPER!!

BUT ASK WHAT KIND OF INK THEY SHOULD USE NOW!!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:07 | 881348 Michael
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The United States can most certainly file for bankruptcy since it is considered a corporation, made that way by the Act of 1871. Just abolish it.

1871, February 21: Congress Passes an Act to Provide a Government for the District of Columbia, also known as the Act of 1871.

http://www.byronwine.com/files/1871.pdf

UNITED STATES is a Corporation - There are Two Constitutions - Sovereignty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVsMUpPgdT0

I wouldn't be surprised if the States could file for bankruptcy in the same manner.

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:41 | 881296 Michael
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Your all junking me because your pissed that I figured it out and you didn't.

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 00:41 | 883428 Arkadaba
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No we are junking you because you are stupid. <Sigh> 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:13 | 881400 scratch_and_sniff
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You're a fucking halfwit boy.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:28 | 881630 JW n FL
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i resemble that fact.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:31 | 881465 lesterbegood
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Spot on Michael!

Capitis deminutio is a term used in Roman trials referring to the extinguishing, either in whole or in part, of a person's former legal capacity.

There were three changes of state or condition attended with different consequences, maxima, media and minima. The greatest, capitis deminutio maxima, involved the loss of liberty, citizenship, and family (e.g. being made a slave or prisoner of war). The next change of state, capitis deminutio media, consisted of a loss of citizenship and family without any forfeiture of personal liberty. The least change of state, capitis deminutio minima, consisted of a person ceasing to belong to a particular family, without loss of liberty or citizenship.[1]

Translation: Capitis means of head (genitive case of caput), deminutio means decrease or withdrawal, and maxima, media, and minima means the greatest, medium, and the least.

This is why your name is always in CAPS on all legal documents, i.e., birth certificate, driver's license, etc.

All roads lead to Rome.

Just ask the pope?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:48 | 881524 Michael
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Not many people are capable of understanding the magnitude of such detail. Hence the junking. Product of their inferior education.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:24 | 882117 weinerdog43
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Not many people count the number of individual Cheetos in a bag either.  It's just that we don't care what you are saying. 

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 00:42 | 883430 Arkadaba
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+100

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 22:37 | 883214 Michael
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All your junk are belong to me.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:47 | 881242 Mercury
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Notice how the essence of King's message and work, summed up nicely in:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

...is almost never mentioned these days.   Fill out any government form and what's the first question they ask?  From kindergarten through college it's one manifestation of some race or group identity fetish after another.  Keep an eye out for this quote on TV or, if you have kids, in the pile of MLK material they will likely be wading through.  I bet you won't find it.

*Also, listening to this again it's obvious that Obama's meaningless fluffy rhetoric can't hold a candle to a powerful, old fashioned orator like MLK.  Culture is simply dying with everything else.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:25 | 881450 BobPaulson
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Actually, BO isn't a bad orator IMO - I know this isn't an Obama thread so I won't hyjack, but his oration is the one thing I gave him credit for. Remember he operates in a soundbite world. Don't know if the MLK oration would work with how we have all developed ADHD as programmed by TV.

I think he has proven that once you get there the President is just a puppet. Put Malcolm X in the president's seat and you get the same result. For me the biggest thing he DIDN'T do was to clean up the practice of torture. When I saw inaction on that I knew he was impotent.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:52 | 881691 Mercury
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Well, I'm not complaining that he mumbles or anything I just think that most Obama speech content is wonky, vapid and evasive.

I think I'd have more respect for the guy if he actually delivered detailed and impassioned barn-burners about why he thinks the government should control everything besides sex and shopping.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:29 | 881803 Uncle Remus
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most Obama speech content is wonky, vapid and evasive

You could just substitute "Obama" with political.

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 00:45 | 883437 Arkadaba
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And he lies - that is what bugs me the most. I had high hopes but he hasn't shut down Guantamo, hasn't stopped the wars and most importantly hasn't stopped the Wall street war against Main street - all of which, he promised to do. 

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 10:57 | 883903 BobPaulson
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Gitmo and torture advocacy and disregard for habeus corpus are so far over on the spectrum of what makes a civil society, it really bugs me how little this seems to matter to anybody. It's what you put in movies to make it clear who the bad guys are. Once you lose the moral high ground you're on the same footing as Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Khemr Rouge, whoever. Ends justifying means arguments are on the scariest slippery slope there is.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:29 | 881988 SRV - ES339
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Well said Bob... you play the game, or you don't get in... try to make any real change and they take you down. It's the Tea Party (etc) smears for now... if he should go too far though...

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:22 | 881247 Green Leader
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:33 | 881275 pan-the-ist
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Like a Cactus?!?!?!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:36 | 881483 Green Leader
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Like such...from the Zionist seed bank, perhaps?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:36 | 881484 Green Leader
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Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:24 | 881253 Sudden Debt
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Didn't they make sure he went to the land of Dreams like FOR EVA!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:24 | 881254 LoneStarHog
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Dr. King was proof that a great leader is only possible with the support of We The People.  Now two questions:  1) When will we see another Dr. King 2) When will We The People get off their dead butts and get INVOLVED?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:32 | 881267 pan-the-ist
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Dr. King was proof that TPTB are fine with rhetoric, but not so much when you successfully advocate for ALL the poor people and get them marching together.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:35 | 881282 hardcleareye
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+++, I enjoy reading your comments.

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 00:47 | 883440 Arkadaba
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moi aussi

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:08 | 881742 GreenSideUp
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1) Why do people look for a "great leader"?  Need a leader?  Look in the mirror (think for yourself)  2) Get involved in what? You can help starve the beast from the comfort of your own home.  

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:28 | 881261 Rodent Freikorps
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I have a dream we will shit-can Affirmative Action.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:54 | 882190 Id fight Gandhi
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we have Jackson and sharpton to follow in mlk footsteps.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:31 | 881269 snowball777
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I have the most profound respect for Dr. King and his courage to do what was right even though he knew without a doubt he would pay with his life.

@LoneStarHog: 1) probably another 2,000 years or so. 2) shortly after it's too late to be useful

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:37 | 881287 almost_have_a_name
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America's Gandhi...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:46 | 881304 Sudden Debt
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I'm sorry but even Gandhi didn't do shit.

Take a beating and say thank you so they won't do it again?

BS! India freed itself from the British because England couldn't send enough troops anymore because of WOI and they freed themselves by fighting and killing the English colonists!

When the results where there people made it more romantic.

Look to the Dalia Lama. Nobody gives a rat ass about that guy and without violence Tibet will never get it's freedom.

People love the Idea of peacefull demonstrations BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THEM TO DO SHIT AND USE IT TO USE IT AS A EXCUSE TO DO SHIT.

And to come back to Ghandhi, the things he protested against: the removal of the Kasts, free education for all... STILL ISN'T A FACT!!

ALL BS!!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:03 | 881362 Rodent Freikorps
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I think Gandhi was quite put out the British didn't shoot his death obsessed ass.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:08 | 881382 nmewn
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A pacifist socialist who had zero problem with the caste system of his homeland...he could have stood against it and maybe helped their situation...but didn't.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:47 | 882041 pan-the-ist
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"Look to the Dalai Lama. Nobody gives a rat ass about that guy and without violence Tibet will never get it's freedom."

This is true.  Tibet also has (had) a caste system with an enforced state religion.  Should the Dalai Lama have put the Tibetans to war to protect this system?

There are some very interesting questions in the Tibet/China debate.

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 00:49 | 883444 Arkadaba
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You have piqued my curiousity - will do some reading. 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:39 | 881293 Sudden Debt
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There will never be a shortage of people who talk the talk.

I hope people will realize they can only judge a person who walks the walk.

And whatever people say about MLK, we'll never know if he would have walked the walk. That's why people turned him into a icon.

What if and the rest of the bullshit isn't something I buy anymore.

ONLY ACTION COUNTS!

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:40 | 881295 tamboo
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"The NAACP's first president was Arthur Spingarn, and only Jews served as NAACP presidents from its founding until the 1970s. Noel Spingarn succeeded his brother, Arthur, and following him, Kivie Kaplan reigned over the organization. The Jewish leadership of the NAACP was little known by the public at large. When I came of age, the only name I heard associated with the NAACP was Roy Wilkins, who was its Black national secretary. Because he was so much in the press and public eye, like most Americans, I thought Wilkins was the NAACP leader. But Kaplan was the actual NAACP president during that time. Benjamin Hooks became the first Black president finally in the 1970s. Once a Black finally made it to the presidency of the organization, no longer did the public hear much about the NAACP "national secretary." From then on the public spokesman was the NAACP president.

In the recent Black-Jewish split, liberal Jews are quick to cry foul at Black resentment against them by reciting the fact that the lion's share of the financing of the Black cause has come from Jews. They also boast that at least 90 percent of the civil-rights legal effort has come from Jewish attorneys and has long been supported by Jewish money.

Practically every step of the civil-rights movement's progress came through the courts. They decreed forced racial integration of the schools, enabled illiterate Blacks to vote, and ultimately forced upon America the massive anti-White discrimination program with the Orwellian name "affirmative action." Here, too, Jews took the predominant roles."

http://www.martinlutherking.org/ma-chapter18.html

http://mailstar.net/secret.html

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:47 | 881310 Michael
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This is how they pulled off the greatest scam in the history of the world.

Israeli director Yoav Shamir embarks on a provocative – and at times irreverent – quest to answer the question, “What is anti-Semitism today?” Does it remain a dangerous and immediate threat? Or is it a scare tactic used by right-wing Zionists to discredit their critics? Speaking with an array of people from across the political spectrum (including the head of the Anti-Defamation League and its fiercest critic, author Norman Finkelstein) and traveling to places like Auschwitz (alongside Israeli school kids) and Brooklyn (to explore reports of violence against Jews), Shamir discovers the realities of anti-Semitism today. His findings are shocking, enlightening and – surprisingly – often wryly funny.

Defamation: True Stories

http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=7208

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 17:45 | 882604 Michael
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I don't have a special love for this race or that race or any group of people, as most people are brainwashed to have. This is all part of the control mechanism, pitting one group against the other in the name of their special love.

There are scum in every race and every group of people, and I call the scum out no matter what their race or affiliation.

We live in the age of conspiracies while at the same time being socially engineered to ignore them through the use of crafty language. Words like "conspiracy theory" and "conspiracy theorist" are designed to make you feel bad about exploring deeper into the subject presented. You do now instinctively turn away from the topic whenever you here these words out of someones mouth, as if you've been hypnotized to do so. No words will set your mind at ease and allow you to delve further into the issue. Through constant repetition of the feel bad words, you are very controlled. Not even when the words are corrected to indicate the true nature of the exercise with such words as "Conspiracy Researcher", will your mind be put at ease. Continue reading at your own risk.

You can substitute those words "conspiracy theory" and "conspiracy theorist" with "Anti-Semite", "Anti-Semitism", or whatever, so you can discover the control mechinism.

And for your information, God has no special love for them either.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:42 | 881298 Oh regional Indian
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Green Leader above has it right. MLK was a plant. To imagine that someone such as him-self  would be allowed to have the impact he was having is proof enough. A little digging around will bring out much more proof. 

I prefer Cornell West. He asks not for any collective action, but urges a look into one's own self.

The un-examined life is not worth living!

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/quiet-days-watery-days/

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 22:07 | 883142 pan-the-ist
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Like a Cactus?!?!?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:43 | 881299 crosey
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In front of the cameras, MLK was a hero.  Behind the scenes, he was quite human.  Too bad he latched on to the scam he witnessed in Detroit.

He died a hero.  He left behind the likes of Jesse Jackson and Hosea Williams, frontrunners for scammers of the century.  THEY HAVE CORRUPTED anything good that MLK could have hoped to accomplish.

But isn't this the way of all flesh?  Pardon my cynicism.

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 09:47 | 881309 Twindrives
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You left out Obama's dung beetle twin Al Sharpton.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:33 | 881650 JW n FL
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by crosey
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 08:43
#881299

 

In front of the cameras, MLK was a hero.  Behind the scenes, he was quite human.  Too bad he latched on to the scam he witnessed in Detroit.

He died a hero.  He left behind the likes of Jesse Jackson and Hosea Williams, frontrunners for scammers of the century.  THEY HAVE CORRUPTED anything good that MLK could have hoped to accomplish.

But isn't this the way of all flesh?  Pardon my cynicism.

******************************************************************************

You Either Die a Hero, or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become the Villain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDz8CW6utWY

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:57 | 881717 Bob
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“Ideas are mallable and unstable; they not only can be misused, they invite misuse---and the better the idea the more volatile it is. That's because only the better ideas turn into dogma, and it is by this process whereby a fresh, stimulating, humanly helpful idea is changed into robot dogma that is deadly. The problem starts at the secondary level, not with the originator or developer of the idea, but with the people who are attracted to it, until the last nail breaks, and who invariably lack the overview, flexibility, imagination, and, most importantly, sense of humor to maintain it in the spirit in which it was hatched. Ideas are made by masters, dogmas by disciples, and the Buddha is always killed on the road.”

 

Tom Robbins, Still Life With Woodpecker


Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:19 | 881943 JW n FL
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Thank You Bob, that was sweet... not sweet like, you know what I mean if you are under 80 years old.

 

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=Tom+Robbins%2C+Still+Life+With+Woodpecker&aq=0&aqi=g3g-v1g-o1&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=ddb181364976507e

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 18:25 | 882719 Neuromancer
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JW - PLEASE stop quoting comments in your replies. The conversation is already threaded. If you feel the need to reply to a specific poster, then just use their name. 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:03 | 881364 Henry Chinaski
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While we are remembering stuff, today is the 20th anniversary of Desert Storm.

Good article:

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2011/01/137_79827.html
01-17-2011 17:25    
Desert Storm changed Kuwait, military and journalism
By Peter Copeland

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:03 | 881365 Arm
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Steve Jobs is on medical leave from APPL. This is going to blow some hedgies out of the water

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:06 | 881376 Implicit simplicit
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I have a nightmare! We are all equal now. We are all negroes now.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:32 | 881648 cowdiddly
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+6/13

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:19 | 881426 Twindrives
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On this day we can also be grateful to have American patriot and statesman Alan Keyes in our midst.   One of the very few politicians left in the U.S. with uncompromised integrity.     We thank you Mr. Keyes!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 18:23 | 882712 DarkAgeAhead
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What's he doing these days?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:25 | 881445 Trundle
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Total class act (don't want to hear any of the bullshit about his personal life).

Kept us out of a civil war.

Responded as a true stateman to a repressive society.

All take note.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:25 | 881451 ibjamming
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MLK and ALL the "equal rights" bullshit are what ruined this country.  It's the day we went to quotas...in EVERYTHING.  Fuck him...  If YOU can't cope...hurry up and die so the rest of us don't have to carry your weight...  I'm getting SO tired of welfare...ALL of it...and the people who expect it.  ANYTHING you get for "free" is a gift to you...unfortunately, they've forgotten that...they EXPECT it now...  Well, I'm getting tired of paying for your tired ass...free homes, food, and fucking CELL PHONES?  What DON'T the God damn poor get these days?

 

Personally, I'm awaiting a "reset" just to rid the planet of all this dead weight we're dragging along.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:41 | 881505 nmewn
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I separate the words of the man from the man...re Dr.King.

He was a personally flawed man (like many of us) who came along at the right time and said what needed to be said...what happened afterwards...the hijacking of his dream and his race by his associates & the state, is a travesty.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:57 | 881712 Oh regional Indian
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nm, that might be a great error, the separation.

If one cannot walk one's talk behind closed doors, even those of one's mind, one might just as well shut up till one is whole.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/06/14/know-thy-self/

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:39 | 882160 nmewn
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Maybe so ORI...maybe so.

We're all flawed in some way...he was no different.

But I will try to say nothing to disturb the rest his soul deserves, at least for this day...there are others who will and do.

It's just bad form...maybe even bad karma ;-)

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:05 | 881570 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Listen you disgruntled bitch, I like my Obama phone and food stamps.  You want a cell phone and good food (I only buy pot roast with my foodstamps), I suggest you get a job and buy them.  Nobody gives a fuck about your problems.

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 01:07 | 883464 Arkadaba
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price for cigs by the carton ;)

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:07 | 881928 Trundle
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Equal rights, initially and finally corrupted, becomes the downfall of the society.  The words, which were meritocratic in origin, were taken and completely corrupted by the state.  It was that corruption that started the downfall of the society.  The do-gooders wanted to make amends for the injustice of the past.  So they robbed from those who had nothing to do with the injustice to give to those who shared the racial characteristics of those who suffered those injustices.  

"Equal outcomes" is indefensible.  Equal rights does not give rise to equal outcomes.  It just means that before the law you are not disadvantaged because of your genetic characteristics.  Overlawyering to equate "equal outcomes" to equal rights is what has destroyed much of the economic infrastructure of this country.  That, and the unbridled growth of government, which is inherent to a democracy. 

"The squeaky wheel gets greased". 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 15:13 | 882237 MachoMan
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I think your point of view comes from seeing yourself as actually being "productive".  Aside from the convenience of classifying yourself, the fact is that there are an incredibly few people needed...  between automation and other efficiency gains, the amount of "needed" jobs is virtually nil.  This is why we all wash each others' shirts now.  In short, no one (even those on the welfare you despise) characterizes themselves as unproductive...  when the time comes, you will not get to make the choice, rather, it will be made for you.

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 01:03 | 883458 Arkadaba
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Shut up. What you can't compete? If you are a white male, how come you aren't doing well? 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:33 | 881468 DrZuess
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I agree Scheme vs dream thing was hilarious, clever, succinct and quite witty.

The thing that I am deeply offended by is censor ship and fascist condemnations of freedom of speech. Enough with the political correctness oppression.

Wise up rise up... say what you want.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:35 | 881479 laosuwan
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Here are some additional MLKJr quotes you might find interesting...

"I cannot stand idly by, even though I happen to live in the United States and even though I happen to be an American Negro and not be concerned about what happens to the Jews in Soviet Russia. For what happens to them happens to me and you, and we must be concerned."

"Israel's right to exist as a state in security is uncontestable."

"Peace for Israel means security, and we must stand with all our might to protect its right to exist, its territorial integrity. I see Israel as one of the great outposts of democracy in the world, and a marvelous example of what can be done, how desert land can be transformed into an oasis of brotherhood and democracy. Peace for Israel means security and that security must be a reality."

"I solemnly pledge to do my utmost to uphold the fair name of the Jews -- because bigotry in any form is an affront to us all."

"When people criticize Zionists they mean Jews, you are talking anti-Semitism."

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:40 | 881497 Green Leader
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The Zionist Ashkenazis are not Semites:

Genesis 10

 The Table of Nations

 1 This is the account of Shem, Ham and Japheth, Noah’s sons, who themselves had sons after the flood.

   The Japhethites

 2 The sons[a] of Japheth:
   Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshek and Tiras.

 3 The sons of Gomer:
   Ashkenaz, Riphath and Togarmah.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:43 | 881513 The Talmud Kid
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They're edomites.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:52 | 881540 Green Leader
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The illegitimate & impostor regime is a conglomerate of Ashkenazis & Edomites. We are to live the diaspora in the islands, stripped of our lineage, as Isaiyah prophesized.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:11 | 881586 Alcoholic Nativ...
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******BIBLE TARD ALERT******

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:21 | 882113 JW n FL
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JESUS WILL SET YOU FREE!!!! turn your cheek... to live here poorly is to live there richly...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:46 | 882171 Randall Cabot
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He may have said it but he didn't write it-the rational thing for MLK to have done would have been to support the ethnically cleansed Palestinians.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 21:16 | 883031 laosuwan
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ethnically cleansed Palestinians

There is no such thing as ethnically cleansed Palestinians, or frankly Palestinians. The name Palestine was given to the region by the Romans as an insult to the jews who had lived their for most or recorded history. At the time of the first muslim invasions the area was populated with many peoples from many faiths, but according to the census taken by the Ottomans the total population was less than 200000. The region never had its own government anytime in history, it was part of other countries and city states, shifting boundries every hundred years or so. Most of the present population is Jordanian, Egyption and the rest were "imported" by Arafat. Stop perpetuating this myth of a Palestinean people. Its about as convincing as there being a people of Atalantis.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:37 | 881489 The Talmud Kid
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The original al sharpton.

1) Martin Luther King, Jr. plagiarized his doctorate thesis. This is the biggest case of academic plagiarism in US history. The “mainstream” media censors this fact. In the 1980′s Boston University officials confirmed that King did in fact plagiarize his thesis paper, but claimed that they did not know it was plagiarized at the time it was accepted by the University. The officials said they could revoke his doctorate, but that revocation would serve “no purpose.”

2) Martin Luther King was a notorious user of prostitutes and even had multiple prostitutes in his hotel room the day he was murdered.

3) In 1957 King attended a training seminar run by Highlander Folk School. The “school” was a training center set up by the Communist Party. King attended with several known members of the Communist Party. The subject matter of the seminar was on instigating race riots.

4) For five years King’s personal secretary was a long time Communist Party member. He was also a convicted WWII draft-dodger, a homosexual, and had a conviction for a lewd act in public. King completely surrounded himself with known members of the Communist Party.

5) Contrary to what has been claimed by King’s descendants, MLK never met Ghandi, nor did Ghandi ever endorse MLK. In fact, Ghandi was a major advocate of racial segregation while living in South Africa.

6) FBI Assistant Director Sullivan stated after King’s murder that the Bureau has evidence King embezzled money from the SCLC to finance his prostitution habit. King’s widow successfully lobbied congress to seal the FBI’s records on King for fifty years.

 

He was a piece of shit, jew backed communist rabble rouser and nothing more.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:54 | 881544 wackyquacker
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so how do you really feel? De mortuis nil nisi bonum

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:11 | 881942 Trundle
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NWO had its influence here. 

Notwithstanding that, the tactics taken to avoid bloodshed, other than his own, deserve mention. Plus, he was against the Vietnam war, another NWO conflagration.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 16:14 | 882402 squexx
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The REAL truth about MLK. It's fitting that if you mention MLK street of any kind, it means "ghetto!"

http://www.martinlutherking.org/thebeast.html

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:52 | 881537 Ironmaan
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MLK's dream is dead in the black community. The content of character doesn't matter, only the color of skin.  Over 90% of blacks voted for Obama. Everything is "colorized". When you are attacked as a racist because you oppose the healthcare law clearly there is a problem. Racism exists now mostly in the black community.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:14 | 881952 Trundle
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MLK's dream was a laudable dream.  It was but a dream.  Once the statists, collectivists and NWO got further hold of the tethers of the black community, they were tremendously disadvantaged.  How has any government program actually helped the black community other than to foster dependence?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:02 | 881560 no2foreclosures
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It's interesting to read the various comments on MLK in this post. The comparison between the human flaws of MLK and JFK should point out to everyone that these individuals were no different than you and I and that they were all too human, but, boy, did each rise up to the occasion. Again, comparing MLK and his "I Have a Dream" speech given from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial (August 28, 1963) with JFK and his American University Commencement Address (June 10, 1963), both spoke the truth beautifully and elegantly: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." "For in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's futures. And we are all mortal." The mere fact that they were killed by the "lone nut coincidence theory," as was with RFK and many others, should indicate the degree of effectiveness that they were beginning to make in the scheme of things.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:11 | 881589 The Talmud Kid
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More michael king plagiarism.  From Archibald Carey's 1952 speech.  I assume some jew gave it to him to read in his sing song voice in between his beatings of  white prostitutes.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:50 | 882045 Max Hunter
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The mere fact that they were killed by the "lone nut coincidence theory," as was with RFK and many others, should indicate the degree of effectiveness that they were beginning to make in the scheme of things.

++ Precisely..

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:08 | 881575 Dinghy Dumper
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For your delectation, here is a link to version of the

"I have a dream" speech as given by a hedge fund manager ...

http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2010/01/20/powerpoint-version-of-i-ha...

 

;-)

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:13 | 881597 jakethesnake76
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Thank you for putting this beautiful speech on here today Tyler. This spirit that he MLK jr  exhibited should be pertinent today to us all whatever our color, that we should be free from ANY PERSON OR FORCE THAT ENSLAVES US. 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:20 | 881612 MacedonianGlory
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Socialist crap

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:38 | 881662 JW n FL
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you know... we were just describing your mom's pussy the same way... free to all and at all times. yes I hope the cunt that spawned you is dead.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:27 | 881626 trav7777
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everyone got dreams, so fuckin what?

King was the civil rights version of Obama; someone who reads speeches funded by jews.

And what did civil rights get us?  Where's the benefit?

The race pimp machine has abandoned the notion that we are all equal and is trying instead to ghettofy society

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:30 | 881636 Rodent Freikorps
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Trying?

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:36 | 881657 JW n FL
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http://www.wpbf.com/news/17483843/detail.html

Judge Says Saggy Pants Law Unconstitutional Teen Jailed For Having Underwear Exposed In Riviera Beach

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:13 | 881948 JW n FL
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I could not watch it all the way thru.. but my eyes teared up from laughing.. Thank You.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:58 | 881721 High Plains Drifter
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Martin Luther King, "Why I Am Opposed to the War in Vietnam"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80Bsw0UG-U

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:37 | 881822 The Talmud Kid
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I have a dream.

That I would be able to walk safely at night in detroit, chicago, hartford, newark, cleveland, or st louis.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:24 | 882118 JW n FL
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by The Talmud Kid
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 11:37
#881822

 

I have a dream.

That I would be able to walk safely at night in detroit, chicago, hartford, newark, cleveland, or st louis.

************************************************************************************

You cant walk around at night becuase you are bitch, panties and all... hike that skirt up and make daddy some money you lil sweet thing you.

 

fucking coward, running your mouth about NIGGERS without saying the word... you make me look bad... I will say this my lil jesus freak... I hope that the lights go out, that a new crusade breaks out and that you baptist freaks are first to get run down... before anyone else.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:45 | 882169 The Talmud Kid
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I want a civil war more than you do.

I want the kikes who use the niggers as cultural, political, economic and biological weapons of mass destruction to pay the price.

I want their sons and especially the daughters wiped off the earth forever.

 

 

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 12:05 | 884091 JW n FL
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You and your kind will be removed by the FED... you will be softening them up... right before the US Army returns to hold you personaly down some more?????

That war, thats not ever going to happen....

for war you need money, gold... something to buy food and bullets...

then you need a standing army, the goobermint has de-fanged even the churches for that kind of movement...

but you are going to kill all those broke niggers in da' hood! cause thier broke asses are holding you back from what you are capable of?

I Love when the trailer park blames the hood and back and forth... that shit is funny.

so, how are these broke black people enslaving the poor white people again? TELL ME! HOW! BROKE PEOPLE ARE TO BLAME? cause thier ignoarant... or stupid becuase they are blacks, cause all blacks are stupid? right?

you are a sheep, no more no less... stop being a sheep.

Sat, 01/22/2011 - 10:03 | 895587 The Talmud Kid
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When it comes, it will be assymetric. 

No more than 300 cells of 3 men are needed to wipe out the federal government and it's jews.

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:47 | 882174 The Talmud Kid
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You're barking up the wrong tree, you felching kike faggot.

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 11:51 | 884064 JW n FL
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I am Catholic, but Jesus was a Kike... dont forget to say your prayers...

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 16:11 | 882396 squexx
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Talmud Kid. LOL! Another brave member of the Satanic tribe opens his big mouth. German research shows your kind make a decent alternative energy source. We should should harvest all of your kind!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 18:26 | 882723 Neuromancer
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JW - PLEASE stop quoting comments in your replies. The conversation is already threaded. If you feel the need to reply to a specific poster, then just use their name. 

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 12:02 | 884093 JW n FL
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listen stalker, i am involved... unsucessfully... but none the less spoken for. so sod off!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:01 | 881905 Uncle Remus
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I am still waiting for the soon-to-be-extinct middle-class "WTF Is Going On Here?" speech.

Or J6P's "I'm Having a Fucking Nightmare" speech.

Or Gen X's "D00d, Where's My Future?" speech.

 

But mostly I am waiting for the sequels to Saddam Hussein's last indie short, starring a rather lengthy list of treasonous bastards.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:31 | 881992 gwar5
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"I am a Republican, a black, dyed in the wool Republican, and I never intend to belong to any other party than the party of freedom and progress.

Frederick Douglass

 

The first Civil Rights Act was passed in 1875 by Republicans -- MLK was a Republican

In 1854 the democrats owned congress and the White House and wanted to expand slavery to all the new territories.  People spontaneously gathered all over the country to protest, and within a short 6 months time, a new political party was formed, an anti-slavery party, the Republican party.

In just 6 years Republicans owned congress and the White House, and the democrats started shooting within 60 days of Lincolns inauguration. Slavery was abolished at the end of the war, and the first civil rights act act was passed in 1875 and the 1964 act was virtually the same.

Democrat Jim Crow laws were invented to circumvent the 1875 laws. 1450 white Republicans were lynched alongside 3750 black Republicans between 1885-1935. Democrat Woodrow Wilson segregated Princeton University before he re-segregated the Federal government. Democrat FDR put Klansman on the Supreme court. Rupublican Eisenhower oversaw Brown vs Board of Education and integration of schools. Bull Conner and George Wallace were democrats opposing integration.

All blacks prior to 1964 were Republican, including MLK and MLK's father.  When MLK marched on Washington in 1963 he was marching against the democrats, who controlled congress and the White House.  Democrats, like Al Gore, Sr. still  voted against the 1964 act.  Johnson's Great "Give-Away" Welfare Society was  a bribe to get black votes and stay in power.

40 years of black Welfare State society has been a waste. Expansion of the Welfare State to encompass everybody is akin to expansion of economic slavery.


 

 

 

 

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 14:37 | 882154 weinerdog43
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Whoop, dee fuckin' doo. I'm sure impressed by teh bold.

Here's a question:  Why do you think African Americans vote in the 85%+ range for Dems in each election?  Hint...it's not because they love Democrats so much.

 

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 12:03 | 884097 JW n FL
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there is no difference between the dems and the repubs... sorry.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:39 | 882020 Ironmaan
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MLK's dream is dead because government has enslaved the black community thru dependance. I am currently having an interesting discussion with some douche who insists that it is my duty to pay for his needs. Its first article on http://guerillatics.com. This guy claims to suffer from migrains (headaches), and anxiety (nervous nelly) as well as degeneterive disc disease (if your over 40 you have it too), and he does not work. Dependance is becoming a way of life in this country and those that partake in it should be shamed mercillessly.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 13:58 | 882063 Arkadaba
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Good summation of the King family's wrongful death suit in 1999 (which they won):

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/MLKconExp.html

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 18:22 | 882709 chet
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Sad comment thread.  Gives me some insight on ZH though.  Paranoia and conspiracy theories.  I've been coming here for a long time and the quality of discussion has deteriorated completely.

Go bury some more silver coins and baked beans in the back yard while raving about "them darkies" and NWO.  Fucking losers.

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 20:00 | 882890 Twindrives
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Fuck you too Chit.   Take your sorry ass over to Huffington Post.

Tue, 01/18/2011 - 11:54 | 884072 JW n FL
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by chet
on Mon, 01/17/2011 - 17:22
#882709

 

Sad comment thread.  Gives me some insight on ZH though.  Paranoia and conspiracy theories.  I've been coming here for a long time and the quality of discussion has deteriorated completely.

Go bury some more silver coins and baked beans in the back yard while raving about "them darkies" and NWO.  Fucking losers.

*******************************************************************************

Chet, head up... march on... if everyone of quality that has remained thru the dark twists and turns here can remain strong and ignore the bullshit... so can you. The older people have a gift for ignoring the bullshit that the younger crowd can not in good conscience abide... which is ego driven, are you here to help... I think you are... so dont fret. fuckem!

Mon, 01/17/2011 - 21:47 | 883091 Arkadaba
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Hey Chet,

I've been reading ZH since it was a blogspot. Only in the past year that I got up the nerve to start commenting. I follow the markets as a hobby but am not a financial person so found it a little intimidating especially as I like looking at macro trends rather than micro (and no financial training). But I've learnt a lot here about micro-analysis and interpreting charts and how to connect the micro to the macro.

I think this site is garnering more attention - hey was mentioned as one of top twenty influential finance blogs recently - which means there are going to be more diverse opinions and analysis and unfortunately more (what I would consider) dipsticks. But they are entitled to air their opinions. And I find this is one of the only sites I can actually read comments on. On other sites it is a one sentence or semi-sentence "you *&*%*% and stupid". Commentators that do that here are challenged and/or junked. 

So I guess my point is that I think this is still the best place for financial analysis and commentary (micro and macro).

My disclosure is that I am extremely liberal (hey born in Canada to a union organizer - I have a pic with my dad on the line with me when I was one month old - was needed at the time), I prefer governments don't interfere in peoples personal life (why Trudeau was an early hero), but most of all prefer that corporations are not given the status of personhood. (I just think that is wrong and will contribute to the US elected Jamie Dimon as president some day). And I'm a girl - the amount of sexist of stuff on this site - well, whatever. Probably better if I just deal with it by being myself. 

Curious if you chose Chet as a sign-in name because of Chet Baker - as in this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5H2bzk2zcc

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!