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Monday's Reverse Repo Test A Disaster?

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On Monday the Federal Reserve held a major reverse repo test, as was announced by the NY Fed and by Zero Hedge. We have subsequently received several unconfirmed reports that the conducted test has been a disaster (we have calls into the Federal Reserve to confirm or deny this, we are eagerly awaiting their reply). Presumably, after conducting various repos last year, a typical transaction would be in the $1 to $5 billion range. At around the time the financial system was being pulled apart, were two separate $50 billion repo transactions on September 18, 2008, a day when as Paul Kanjorski had highlighted earlier in the year the money market system nearly collapsed as a result of Lehman and AIG's failure, and the Reserve Fund breaking the buck. Notable about Monday's reverse repo "test" was that it was quite sizable: in the $100 billion ballpark, on parallel with the biggest liquidity extraction from 2008. The outcome was the discovery that the dealer community does not have the capacity to do reverse transactions of this magnitude. As a result the Fed was forced to go directly to the money market industry, which has been speculated as a key source of excess liquidity withdrawals, another topic we discussed previously.

This sets a dangerous precedent on two levels. First, if the dealer community, recently expanded to consist of such middle-market banks as Jefferies which allegedly has over $20 billion on its balance sheet compliments of various Fed repo actions, is unable to satisfy reverse repos of this size, a big question mark appears as to what is the illiquid collateral backing the Dealer community, if it is unable to comply with a $100 billion liquidity withdrawal. Second, it indicates that reverse repos as a source of liquidity extraction by the Fed will be contained to the very precarious money market industry. All that is needed, in today's hair-trigger mindset on liquidity, is for another systemic glitch to be made apparent to all market participants, before yet another run on money markets occurs. As readers will recall, money markets were recently stripped of their implicit Federal guarantees: as such, this is the biggest potential threat to a nascent "recovery."

We will follow this topic closely, as the rumor now is that the Fed will no longer attempt dealer-based reverse repos after Monday's failure, but confine them exclusively to money markets. Whether or not the Fed is correct in gambling with the $3 trillion+ money market industry when it should be doing all it can to extract liquidity out of the very same dealer community it has so generously been rewarding for over 7 months, is very much open to debate.


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Wed, 10/21/2009 - 09:58 | 105451 Paul S.
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"The outcome was the discovery that the dealer community does not have the capacity to do reverse transactions of this magnitude."

Doesn't have the capacity or doesn't want to?

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:19 | 105479 Cognitive Dissonance
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I think everyone understands at this point that any significant removal of liquidity from the "dealer Community" will be the straw that breaks the camels back. This is just confirmation of that understanding.

I agree with your view. I think "they" don't want to even entertain the idea of removal at this point. Everyone is wound so tight no one wants to be the first one to begin the process of removing the punch bowl.

There is no capability for a rest or to refresh. It's either continue the express elevator to God knows what point or it's a plunge to the bottom with all the stops removed.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:44 | 105514 deadhead
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Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:54 | 105518 Steak
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And I would very much like to be corrected if wrong, but they are also very much against bringing what was put up as collateral back on their balance sheets, correct?  So also presumably the MM funds are now getting stuffed with BB collateral that has a AAA stamp? 

All that seems self evident from ZH's post, but I'm just making sure I'm not missing a step here.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:54 | 105526 Miles Kendig
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And my favorites, the securitized unrealized comps from premium credit cards and sub-prime Winnebago sales.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 13:49 | 105790 Gordon_Gekko
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I think most likely the "dealer community" along with the benevolent Fed wants the MMF's to be the bag-holders for the toxic shit the Fed has to offer for these repos. No wonder they don't have the "capacity for transactions of this magnitude". Sure.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:10 | 105548 Assetman
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Very good observations, CD.

As ironic as it sounds, the same prime dealer community has the ability to handle trillions worth of liquidity injections.  Start taking the punchbowl away, and it's a totally different issue.

One good thing about this is that the Fed actually tested the waters on the reverse repo front well ahead of time.  It's not surprising that they didn't get the result they were hoping for... and news TD brings up here is potentially very significant.

The real danger here is that the Fed cannot respond to inflationary pressures by taking out liquidity at the pace they put it in... in fact, I would argue they will need to take out the liquidity much FASTER.  They cannot do that through conventional means, so they will do reverse repos through the money markets.  You better hope your MMMF isn't the "greater fool"-- or if they do these agreements-- they get "full faith and credit" protection in a big hurry.

One gets the sense that the Fed is really going to test the outer limits of its authority when it comes time to pull liquidity back in.  Again, this is clearly NOT a problem now... but it could be a BIG problem at the drop of a hat.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 13:14 | 105737 Gordon_Gekko
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I think we can all agree that anyone keeping any money in a MMF at this point is an idiot.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 21:15 | 106419 Anonymous
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Are you referring to the inflation factor, or the securities that will be given to the funds in a reverse repo?

Also, can you (or someone else) explain how will the MMF be screwed by this reverse repo? Isn't the money going to be swapped back at the end of the repo for the securities, or are talking about a situation where redemptions force the MMF to sell some of these securities at a lower price they paid when the repo started?


Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:08 | 105462 bonddude
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Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:27 | 105494 Anonymous
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You don't want to know.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:49 | 105591 bonddude
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Hello Father...

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:10 | 105464 Oso
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Any thoughts on whether them attempting to unwind this retardation is what is cratering the dollar today??

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:11 | 105465 EB
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Indeed.  If there are truly $692 billion in bank non-borrowed excess reserves (which would be held mainly by primary dealers and are the result of QE OMOs), what is the problem?  Given the correlation between bank NBER and the stock market rally, one wonders if these "excess" reserves are otherwised encumbered or tied up in leveraged loans to momo hedge funds.


Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:27 | 105492 Cognitive Dissonance
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Everyone remember the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake that hit San Francisco? I still remember those pictures from the Marina district of buildings tilted at crazy angles and 2 x 4's jamed against the sides of the buildings to keep them from collapsing in the aftershocks.

I think the "$692 billion in bank non-borrowed excess reserves" are the proverbial 2 x 4's holding up this economy and no one is even considering removing one stick of supporting wood from this mess. 

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:57 | 105531 Miles Kendig
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The duct tape & 2X4 economy in one picture.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:04 | 105537 drbill
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Come on! Everyone knows that duct tape holds the world together. ;-)

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 12:03 | 105625 just.a.guy
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if it moves and it shouldn't -- duct tape

if it doesn't move and it should -- WD-40


and right now the world is AWASH in WD-40.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:54 | 105600 bonddude
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And that funny little guy loading grocery bags of cash out of the falling house in the Marina was...the Yankee Clipper. Yup, he didn't trust banks either. I wish he told what he knew back then.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:11 | 105468 Bearish Spirits
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The PDs don't have billions for a reverse repo, but they can continue to drive the market up every day.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 13:34 | 105769 Anonymous
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Very bearish.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:14 | 105470 IE
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"... a big question mark appears as to what is the illiquid collateral backing the Dealer community"...  Really?  A big question mark?

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 13:35 | 105771 Anonymous
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pumped equities and commodities?

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:29 | 105496 Printfaster
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The problem is that the price was not right for the PDs.  The fed needed to find a greater fool.  It seems to have found them in MMs.


Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:40 | 105504 bkrolik
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Most likely, for now all talks about liquidity removal are nonsense; liquidity will be added and dollar will be on the course of devaluation. I do not see any substantial group among decision makers, that would be interested in the opposite. The big question, though, what would be a catalyst to break this trend. Noticeable change in current account deficite might be it...

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 13:00 | 105715 ElvisDog
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I completely agree. Any talk from the Fed about being responsible and removing liquidity is just so much B.S. The game plan from late last year has been "keep the game going and hope it gets better on its own or at the very least get one more round of bonuses". If they remove liquidity the game is over, so therefore they won't remove liquidity.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:48 | 105507 Unscarred
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"Whether or not the Fed is correct in gambling with the $3 trillion+ money market industry when it should be doing all it can to extract liquidity out of the very same dealer community it has so generously been rewarding for over 7 months, is very much open to debate."

It is a bit hypocritical, but how many other viable options would they actually have?

I do, however, find it a pleasant surprise that the Fed is actually trying to get out in front of the curve, for once.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:02 | 105532 Miles Kendig
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I cannot but help to believe that the fed is not out front, but placating the vigilantes and the Chinese.  As alluded to earlier, isn't there some 700bn  in non borrowed reserves?   All show and no go.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:09 | 105545 EB
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This does smell of a dog and pony show.  The Fed was clearly testing its own highwater estimate, almost looking for failure at a known breaking point, that it had previously disclosed to the FT:

"The obvious counterparties for reverse repo deals are the Wall Street primary dealers. However, the Fed thinks they would only have balance sheet capacity to refinance about $100bn of assets. By contrast, the money-market funds have $2,500bn in assets, which means they could plausibly refinance as much as $500bn in Fed assets. Officials think there would be appetite on the part of the funds, which are under pressure from regulators and investors to stick to low-risk liquid investments."

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 12:03 | 105624 Anonymous
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US Dollar down, Chinese manufacturing competetiveness
up. The Europeans are the big loosers in this game.
With tremendous slack in all Economies this could go
on for quite some time and not be inflationary.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:55 | 105527 Anonymous
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But I thought the fed would have no problem keeping almost a $ Trillion in excess reserves under control?

time for short rates to rise, oh wait..

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:02 | 105534 Anonymous
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FYI, your "above the fold" summary of this says "...were two separate $50 billion repo transactions on September 18, 2009". The date is corrected to 2008 in your full article but not in the teaser.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:09 | 105546 Printfaster
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The fed is in no win.  If they pull money out of the MMs, then the MMs will not invest in commercial paper or other forms of industrial paper or private credit.

Either way, the fed disintermediates and kills expansion.  It looks like they press forward to kill the dollar until someone rescues it from the tracks.  I guess this is a game of chicken with the other CBs.  At the end of the day international finance is dead.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:16 | 105554 Steak
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I'm fascinated by the angle you mentioned...less MM funds for CP, higher short term rates, right?  So that would be a nail in the coffin for the steepener trade as well.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:27 | 105569 Printfaster
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Worse, the fed may be holding disappearing paper by selling their short paper and holding long.  This is a massive attempt to keep the yield curve from steeping.  It may even invert if they try to push this short term paper.

Add to that

An interesting issue has come up with regard to MBS.  The Dayton Daily News reports that bank foreclosures have stopped.  No, there are more and more homes in default, the banks have just stopped processing foreclosures.

What has happened?  The banks sold all the paper to the greater fool a long time ago.  Do the banks even have any interest in processing foreclosures since the paper is now owned by the government?

Will it be politically possible for the fed to foreclose on Fannie, Freddie, Ginnie, FHA debt?  I see all the paper that the fed holds as garbage.  Or the fed has to inflate the crap out of the currency?


Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:45 | 105582 Assetman
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Yep.  The Fed may have no other choice than to market short term paper-- and what complicates that is the US Treasuries own need for future issuance.  Besides ongoing deficit financing, there's a lot of short dated Treasuries that will mature over the next year or two.

Banks not processing forclosures on government owned paper is the pentultimate "screw you".  One could surmise that the FHA becomes a much bigger entity and "services" what foreclosures it can-- even for Fannie, Freddie & Ginnie.  But yeah, MBS is only worth as much as the mortgages from which its derived.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:46 | 105583 Anonymous
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That is a very good point regarding reverse repos with the MM funds. As the MMs seem to be the "slush fund" that loans short term to all sorts of industries and businesses, any removal of funds from the MM pool with ulitmately make all the less unavailable for use as short term loans to all sorts of businesses and commerce...

I also like the idea that the banks have loaned all the monies gotten from the FED to various hedge funds who have used it to speculate/prop up the stock market. The FED cannot get back these funds without jeopordizing the stock rally, which has also served to prop up the banks share prices and thus need for capital for reserve requirements...

Talk about boxed in a corner.

The only way I see out of this, well, there be dragons.

Trust in Allah but carry a concealed weapon.

Peterpaul in Atlanta

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 13:39 | 105777 Anonymous
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The word will go out to take profits
on the stock rally and stand by to
buy Treasuries.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:48 | 105588 Nick Utah
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I understand a normal repo agreement: Fed takes an asset in return for posting reserves with an agreement that at a future date the asset will be returned and the reserves are given back to the FED with interest.

In the reverse repo agreement: Fed give a fully owned asset in return for cash with an agreement to take back the asset at a future date and return the cash with interest.

The problem we have is the FED now full owns assets with little known value? If the original funding to the banks was done under a true repo agreement, it would have been clear that the reserves come back from the bank they were give to. The banks want no part of taking the crap back. The FED is stuck.

I trust the MM are smart enough to know that these assets are not worth par what the FED paid for them. Maybe 10 cents on the dollar???? Who really knows. Most assets are probably worthless or even liabilities.

The FED really has now way out of this mess except to deal with the MM and hit the tax payer for the difference.

It sucks to be a tax payer.. Go Turbo Tim...

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 12:15 | 105645 Assetman
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That's right... and the real issue is which "asset" the Fed will market in the reverse repo.

Hey, if it's a Treasury note backing the agreement, I'm in.  Anyone know how much in Treasuries is on the B/S currently?  Don't let it go unnoticed, though, that the Fed is exchanging T-Notes for Agency debt and banks are hoarding it in reserves.

If its toxic MBS and agency debt... I demand explicit (not implicit) guarantees on both principal AND interest at PAR VALUE.  Otherwise, I'm getting out the 10-foot pole if I'm a MM fund.  I'm sure that the Fed has some sort of magical "swap agreement" conjured up so that they are actually issuing different tranches of FR Notes to the public while quietly allowing the Treasury to absorb the losses on the really toxic assets.

That's about the only way the Fed will able able to pull this off.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 11:56 | 105607 Anonymous
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A longtime lurker asks: Is it time to pull money out of Money Markets and go for....something else?

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 12:16 | 105647 Printfaster
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Given yields that are in double digit basis points, gold is now the money market instrument.  Either way , you get no interest.


Wed, 10/21/2009 - 13:42 | 105783 Gordon_Gekko
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Yes, and that "something else" is physical Gold. If you just pull cash out of your MMF, that's just half of it (albeit a very important half). The other important thing you need to do is protect against currency devaluation (as is happening RIGHT NOW) and buy PHYSICAL Gold with it, preferably in your personal possession. 

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 22:39 | 106510 Anonymous
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Yes. Go for a Treasuries-only money market fund. Then after the crash, which will I think be very sudden, buy gold and silver. Take delivery of the metals.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 12:49 | 105698 Anonymous
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So did BAC get a peak at it's reverse repo 'tab'?

Need $1B? Don't have it. Sell First Republic.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 13:20 | 105746 Anonymous
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What this tells us is that the primary dealer banks KNOW they remain grossly undercapitalized despite all the Fed liquidity gifts and interest paid on LLR capital parked at Fed reserve accounts.
Their unrealized OTC derivative and OBS losses are gigantic, and what funds they can keep from being assigned to future losses (by FASB mark-to-fantasy) are being deployed in gambling in the various markets.
The barbarians are looting the treasury while Rome burns.

The only "exit strategy" the Fed has is the helicopters idling on the roof of the New York Fed building. See Ferdinand de la Rua.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 14:11 | 105832 Anonymous
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This tells me a few things.

Just keep enough $ in the bank to cover your bills.
Nothing beats holding physical gold!
Get a professionally installed juggernaut safe bolted to your homes foundation.

Its no secret (at least to me) that the large banks are hording GOLD (while they are shorting it on the open market)

People put 2 and 2 together.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 14:11 | 105833 Anonymous
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This tells me a few things.

Just keep enough $ in the bank to cover your bills.
Nothing beats holding physical gold!
Get a professionally installed juggernaut safe bolted to your homes foundation.

Its no secret (at least to me) that the large banks are hoarding GOLD (while they are shorting it on the open market)

People put 2 and 2 together.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 14:13 | 105837 Anonymous
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This tells me a few things.

Just keep enough $ in the bank to cover your bills.
Nothing beats holding physical gold!
Get a professionally installed juggernaut safe bolted to your homes foundation.

Its no secret (at least to me) that the large banks are hoarding GOLD (while they are shorting it on the open market)

People put 2 and 2 together.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 14:15 | 105839 Unscarred
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Any word if this what caused the bump in short-term Euro commercial paper yesterday?

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 14:49 | 105876 B9K9
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Talk about boiling frogs. After 6 mos of being exposed to rampant illegal activity, we have come to accept previously unheard of levels of corruption, fraud and collusion on the part of the Fed, Treasury and PDs.

That these arrangements now constitute a new baseline standard of how business is conducted in the US says a a lot about something that would have been vehemently denied as being even remotely possible just a short time ago.

That being said, why would anyone here expect that the primary players would now alter their behavior? What possible motivation would lead them to deviate from pursuing any course of action that stretches (actually, grossly exceeds) the limits of illegality in the pursuit of profits?

How many times are we going to be shocked? Look, the whole game is a stable crash. The PTB are going to do anything/everything they want to achieve their goals. If there's one thing we've learned, it's that there are simply no laws nor enforcement mechanisms that could possibly deter them.

So what's next on the agenda? To get wages to rise in order to offset the commodity price increases and bring existing mortgage obligations in line with traditional LTV ratios. How do you raise wages with 25% (U6) unemployment? How has anything been achieved to date?

Don't be surprised if we get wage/price controls. Nixon did it back in 1971, when the US was orders of magnitude more committed to separation of gov't and private enterprise. This is were health care and cap & trade come in; more gov't control via fiat means they can simply decree what people are to be paid.

If the Chinese and other CBs don't like, tough titty. Think about what Bernanke & Summers have written/said about the $USD - it's just green pieces of paper. It means whatever they say it means.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 14:56 | 105892 EQ
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The Fed isn't going to be doing any reverse repos.  Most likely ever. 

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 15:09 | 105900 i.knoknot
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lots of shorthand jargon on Money Markets today. If I have it right, the MMs that are really being spoken about here are "Money Market Mutual Funds" (MMF/MMMF), vs the "Money Market CDs" (MM) that local banks created in response to the invention of MMMFs, correct?

That said, I understand that the local bank MM CDs have always been a cruddy investment, albeit more available/convenient.

So, I'm hearing in the article/comments that indicate the next bubble to deflate is the MMMFs (kinda like last Sept 18)?

And while nobody here dispenses financial advice (...), within the broader market, where would you folks migrate assets if they are stuck in an IRA/401k? (can't buy physical without going to a specialty PM IRA mechanism...)

  • dollars: dropping like a rock (maybe not to going be the flight to safety in the coming equity crash, this time)
  • treasuries: dropping until the coming equity panic
  • equities: ...
  • PM ETFs: probably better than many alternatives available to IRA/401x holders
  • FOREX ETFs: so long as we don't go latvia/romania currencies...
  • commodities: if you follow Schiff, yes, if you like Mish, then no :^) (?)
  • oil: (special case commodity...) usually safe bet that it'll be going up over time...
  • bonds: depends on how likely the borrower is to be around tomorrow to pay you back, or that the gubbmint will intervene to help cut your hair (see chrysler bondholders...). Not too promising.
  • stuff: liquidate it all and buy food, guns, whiskey, women, etc. :^)

yes/no/maybe? I (mostly?) don't know what I'm talking about, so all comments welcomed, I don't think I'm the only neophyte with an interest in this right now...


Wed, 10/21/2009 - 18:08 | 106149 Rollerball
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Shorting the dollar is shortly to become a crowded trade.  An safety "event" (Iran, etc.) will bounce the dollar (short term).  If I've learned anything lately, it's be long or don't play.  Shorts get squeezed.  Long physical gold/silver/euros/oil/interest rates is probably a better play. 

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 20:31 | 106376 Gordon_Gekko
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Yes we are referring to the Money market mutual funds. You should be completely in monetary metals at this point as they will outperform all other commodities during this phase of the commodity bull (including oil). If I were you, I'd do anything to get a majority of my money into physical Gold/some Silver ASAP in my personal posession. If for some reason you can't do that, then you can buy individual gold stocks (of course after doing due diligence as to the prospect of a company - I would avoid those with a hedge book ala Barrick like the plague) or the GDX ETF. I'd still avoid the GLD ETF, but maybe go with CEF? (I have no position in either). I'd avoid the forex ETF's too as you don't know which corrupt government these days will go insane doing competitive devaluation. 

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 22:48 | 106518 Anonymous
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Wed, 10/21/2009 - 15:28 | 105923 Cursive
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Delicious.  The only thing better would be jail time / executions for these treasonous bastards.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 16:10 | 105998 Cursive
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About 5 minutes after I posted this, the market fell off the cliff.  Even more delicious.  May all of these banksters be ruined.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 18:45 | 106240 johngaltfla
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Pathetic but not unexpected. The PD's are only there because they have to be. They have been gettting the promise of 100% Mafia protection from the Treasury and Fed so they can continue their Caribbean Laundry operation for Treasury paper. With the Fed ceasing the monetization merry-go-round and soon the MBS buyback program the choices facing the Fed are between "oh crap" and "oh hell" because IF they stop the monetization process or easy money this economy screeches to a halt. Despite their best efforts starts and permits are trending downwards and we have yet to recover to levels above the Kennedy Era; that's JFK for you young ones. Thus watch out for a major nightmare about to impact in Q4 09 and Q1 10 as the banksters have to finally recognize to some degree the actual valuations of all this crap on their books.

That's when life will get interesting and the triple short ETFs will get shut down.

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 21:09 | 106411 Anonymous
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If I understand this properly, the reason why the Fed is conducting these reverse repos is to exchange cash held by banks and exchange them for treasures. Then it will sit on the cash. If the Fed sits on the cash, they are telling everyone "Hey look, the money isn't in the system anymore", so they are doing it to control the money supply. Meanwhile, the dealers would be holding Treasuries which effectively "lock" the cash.

Is this correct? If so, this is basically an accounting trick, right?

Can the primary dealers or MM funds take these Treasuries and use them as collateral to fund other deals? Wouldn't that negate the fact that the cash doesn't exist in the money supply?

Thu, 10/22/2009 - 02:29 | 106612 Assetman
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In normal times, the FOMC provides open market operations in which they buy and sell Treasuries for the purpose of "fine tuning" interest rates.  So you're on the right track there.

But there are not in normal times.  From about March 2009 forward the Fed has embarked on a massive buying spree-- adding assets to the books with credit created out of thin air.  This process is what the Fed refers to as "credit easing" or the rest of us as "quantitative easing".  We went this far because open market operations have driven the short end close to 0% and even more liquidity was needed.

At some point, the Fed would like to reduce their expanded balance sheet.  They bought $300bln of Treasuries they could sell.  They're marketable, liquid, and assumed to be relatively safe.  So the Fed will go though Primary Dealers who serve as "middlemen" where the buyer may be banks, PIMCO, etc.  Treasuries are an "easy sell" and would take some liquidity out of the system.

The Fed, however, been buying much more in the way of Agency debt and agency MBS-- and their still buying it and adding to its balance sheet.  Since much of the mortgage market isn't marking to market and the Fed has been buying based on fantasy values, it's highly likely the Fed has been grossly overpaying for these assets.  Banks, foreign central banks, and asset firms like PIMPCO have been more than happy to exchange Agency-related crap for Treasuries and/or cold hard cash.

If inflation rears its ugly head, the Fed needs an exit stategy to unwind QE 1.0.  That means reducing the assets on its bloated balance sheet-- of which most is dubious MBS that no recent seller (banks) want back. 

So the Fed is experimenting by going into reverse repo agreements with expanding the number of "middlemen" and hope there will be interested buyers.  The reverse repos would unload the toxic assets at the buyer with a promise to buy them back at a later date.

So far, so bad.  If it were you, would you buy a toxic asset that had an undetermined value, with the promise from an entity that has been accountable to no one... pay you back in full at a later date.  I don't trust my own bank... and my bank won't do the repo... so why would I trust the Fed if they sold it to my MMMF?  That's the problem the Fed faces in taking liquidity out of the system.


Wed, 10/21/2009 - 21:13 | 106417 Anonymous
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spot on, all of this, getgold, buymoregold and stay sold- this WILL end badly

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 21:33 | 106442 Chignos
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Please take the time to write/email the following to your Senators: Senator xyz: "Why? Please answer just this simple question: Why should the American taxpayer, at the behest of Senators like you, bail out those Wall Street bankers who have levered themselves beyond comprehension through complex financial instruments like naked CDOs, MBS, and credit default swaps, i.e., derivatives? Why?"

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 22:52 | 106523 Anonymous
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Seems possible to me that the reasons the Fed offer are bogus and it has tested a mechanism that will inject Treasuries into MMFs.

I'm thinking this would help prevent a run on the MMFs and into Treasuries, which I think is what happened a year ago. This time, the MMFs would already have the Treasuries in them.

Any comments on this idea?

Thu, 10/22/2009 - 06:32 | 106636 Anonymous
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Thanks Chignos - one of the most important steps is making our so-called representatives aware that Joe-Public understands the game and will vote them out of office if they don't start doing their jobs as described/prescribed in the US Constitutions. Although I'm starting to think they are all rat bastards born from the same, you know.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 21:40 | 151752 Anonymous
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From Bloomberg today- "In a reverse repo, the Fed lends securities for a set period. At maturity, the securities are returned to the Fed, and the cash to the 18 primary dealers that act as counterparties to the central bank."

This sounds very temporary. It is like draining a bath tup with a drain problem by siphoning the water into another tub and then saying to your wife " Look , I solved the problem of all the water in the tub." Later on when she is not paying attention, you put the water back in the first tub and hope she won't notice. In other words , reverse repos even if they work perfectly don't solve the problem of excess liquidity in the system.

Also since draining the excess liquidity might strengthen the dollar , this plan runs counter to the Administration's policy of dollar devaluation to make american exports more competitive and imported goods more expensive

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