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Monex Silver American Eagles Pass $50/Ounce

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No commentary necessary.

But it could be worse. One could be trying to buy American Eagles in Latvia, where the dealer bid/ask is 45.91x....72.81!


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Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:39 | 1193626 Sudden Debt
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Man, I'm making monthly salaries on a daily basis these last 2 weeks!!!




today I made 2 months of salary :)



Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:49 | 1193691 Azannoth
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Just make sure you dont hold paper when it all collapses

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:52 | 1193721 Sudden Debt
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All physical :)

not a single paper. Sold those months ago.



Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:26 | 1193889 narapoiddyslexia
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I may be crazy, but over the last several weeks I've noticed a daily pattern to these climbs in the silver spot price as reflected in the charts at Along about 9-9:30am EST the prices start acting upward till about 11:45am or so, then there is a break or disturbance through the lunch hour, then another climb to 4pm EST, when the climb stops. Am I seeing things? Or what? People see too many patterns when there are none, but today I predicted, to myself, the 4pm EST dropoff in Ag spot price. Are someone's wage slave's doing this?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:42 | 1193980 Frank N. Beans
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i was seeing the same pattern myself and was in fact waiting for that morning dip to buy a little more each day.  will continue to look for it.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:50 | 1194004 Henry Chinaski
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If you are interested in PM trading patterns checkout turd's blog.  That's his thing.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:46 | 1193988 Frank N. Beans
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i was seeing the same pattern myself and was in fact waiting for that morning dip to buy a little more each day.  will continue to look for it.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:51 | 1194019 Long-John-Silver
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They no longer attempt to hide the manipulation. I must admit I play the paper game but only on a daily basis. I am prepared and can take the loss if it happens. I set my buy and sell limits and watch Blythe play her game. She's so easy and predictable. She takes the price down, the BTFD feeding frenzy starts and drives the price back up. My buy and sell limits are hit and I make money. More physical is taken off the market so the price increases. I take my earnings and convert it to physical bullion even when the price is higher. The next day I do it all over again. Wash-Rinse-Repeat. Some days I miss the low and miss the trade but that's OK. I'm running over 70% which is better odds than a casino gets.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:26 | 1194166 Sudden Debt
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Thu, 04/21/2011 - 19:23 | 1194611 MarketTruth
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Monex is a RIP-OFF!!!

Tyler you really need to use as they are only

>>>>> $2.49 over spot <<<<<

AND they pay for shipping too.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 19:57 | 1194722 tmosley
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That's great, but the minimum buy is beyond a lot of people's budgets.

Also, if you are a long time, fairly high dollar customer at APMEX, shipping is free.  I've made numerous small-medium purchases from them that are below the minimum order at Tulving, and got offered that.  It's pretty nice.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 20:28 | 1194788 MarketTruth
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Agree if you can't meet the 500 ounce minimum for silver (20 ounce minimum for gold) then Apmex is an alternative... though you will pay A LOT more for the product.


Tulving is $2.49 over spot for 500 or more Silver American Eagle coins

Apmex is $4.69 (!!!) over spot for qty of 499 or less, add 50 cents more for qty under 100 and you'll need to AGAIN add 50 cents more for qty below 20.

So that 'free' Apmex shipping is actually paid for by a VERY healthy margin far above spot and far above Tulving prices.

As for 500 oz 'sealed green monster box of 500:
Apmex is $26,250 and Tulving is $25,250.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 22:53 | 1195135 MrBoompi
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I've had no problem making up for the higher fees when buying from APMEX and I expect this will continue for some time. Buy away!

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 06:02 | 1195551 MarketTruth
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Fully agree with you, either way silver is a buy. Am simply saying for anyone truly serious and buying in quantity then Tulving is the best resource i have found. Smaller investors can choose Apmex of course yet they will be paying more since they are investing less.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 10:44 | 1196030 redpill
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APMEX didn't always have such a large premium, but I understand why they are padding in this insane market.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 22:54 | 1195139 tmosley
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I don't buy Eagles from them.  I prefer either junk silver or their random 1oz rounds.  If I'm feeling lucky, then I get their random bars.  Sometimes it's utter crap, but one time I got four highly valued numismatic bars (Coca-Cola Bars, and Donald Duck 45th anniversary bars).

The random stuff is about as cheap as you will find anywhere.

Mon, 04/25/2011 - 19:27 | 1205728 tomster0126
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where do you buy coins or your junk from?  I'm looking to get into melting some down myself and making a little shop in the back.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:28 | 1193903 LeBalance
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Perspective: those in paper are loosing their fortunes, you are maintaining yours.  The concept that you are "making" boatloads of fiat is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 21:07 | 1194894 Big Sky
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Fortunes in paper: eroding

Fortunes in gold: maintaining

Fortunes in silver: expanding

Mon, 04/25/2011 - 19:26 | 1205722 tomster0126
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You're awesome :)  way to go, what are your thoughts on what the prices will be like over summer?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:15 | 1193838 Magnix
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Sold all of my vintage US Notes into phycial gold/silver months ago too.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:55 | 1194029 traderjoe
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Nicely put. A bit OT, but I was amused to see the only tag word for this article is "Latvia". That's funny. I think there is a tag word "Crap". I think there should be one "Banana Republic". 

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:23 | 1193886 T1000
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"But then, finally, the masses wake up. They become suddenly aware of the fact that inflation is a deliberate policy and will go on endlessly. A breakdown occurs. The crack-up boom appears. Everybody is anxious to swap his money against 'real' goods, no matter whether he needs them or not, no matter how much money he has to pay for them." 

"Within a very short time, within a few weeks or even days, the things which were used as money are no longer used as media of exchange. They become scrap paper. Nobody wants to give away anything against them.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 20:28 | 1194801 Youri Carma
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10 Reasons Why You Should Sell Your Silver And Invest In The Zimbabwe Currency

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:54 | 1193713 narapoiddyslexia
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Are you realizing gains? Selling? Just curious....

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:58 | 1193749 Sudden Debt
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Even still buying :)

I've got 7 coin stores that still sell about 5 to 7 euro below spot. I want the clean them out in the comming months.

Just confirmed another order.

I'm already spending my summer bonus of which I have no clue how much it's going to be, It better be enough :)

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:07 | 1193791 MassDecep
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Please don't publish your address. I actually bought some PVC and end seals. Get to play Pirate shortly.

I bought 60 coins at $43.00 and felt good about it. Of course, no delivery as of yet. They seem to take their time when you are making out. Found that to be with AMEX. Bullion direct has been very good throughout the years.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:43 | 1193973 cossack55
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Remeber when you bury them it is wise to spoof about 8x/container.  Old tin cans, some iron and aluminum about 1' deep.  I spoof 12x.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 23:47 | 1195229 geekgrrl
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FWIW, if I'm digging a hole and find anything man-made one foot down, I'll keep digging. It's hard evidence that a hole was dug, and most likely not to bury trash. I think it would be better to plant a shallow root native plant in the hole. The most abundant plant in your locale is probably a good choice, since it will be ignored by everyone. Would make it easier to find again as well... :)

We actually had a neighbor that died a few years back, and legend has it that he buried a bunch of 5 gallon buckets full of cash around the area. So I've given this a bit of thought.  :-)

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 18:44 | 1194502 Absinthe Minded
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I like Bullion Direct, I've been dealing with them since Feb. of 2009. I just purchased 10 ASE's at $33 ea in March and was gritting my teeth over that price. Now up $17 in a little over a month. Amazing.

Mon, 04/25/2011 - 19:28 | 1205734 tomster0126
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Bullion Direct is great, I've loved my transactions with them--signed up early 2010 and haven't looked back since.  Holding for at least another week, I'm not worried about my margins.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:12 | 1193793 MassDecep
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Yeah, I thought I would be self Righteous when all this went down, But have since found to be disappointed that it is all coming to an end. Just need to prepare wisely and help others wake up.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 19:16 | 1194609 Votewithabullet
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Your the only one coming to an end this MF gonna hum on along w/o you. You think those pussies in the super max in colo are going anywhere? Making their plans to bolt once the power goes out and the gates slide open...Never happen. Bernank will prob last longer than his predecessors. 

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:10 | 1193816 h4rdware
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The single other PM buyer that I know in this city managed to clean out one of this small nation's coin dealers of silver with one purchase. It appears that it's not a difficult thing to do :)

The amusing part - he's now being hassled continuously to sell his stash it back to them. They are still out.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:24 | 1193880 Sudden Debt
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indeed, I only buy the below silver spots. For every store that's about 500 to 1500 euro.


Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:15 | 1193830 dark pools of soros
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sell a couple ounces and get some good scotch..  calm down a little :~)



Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:40 | 1193969 hambone
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Can we just call what we are watching "HYPERINFLATION".  The evacuation from fiat is well underway.

I think in retrospect it will be so obvious, like most things in history.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:29 | 1194191 ggummm
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i can't help it but remember that i heard your exact same words 11 - 12 years ago, a few days before the greek bubble burst. I hope it's different this time

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 19:37 | 1194657 TeMpTeK
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Carlos Slim is Buying Silver

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 19:58 | 1194737 Exposer of Inte...
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it's a years(s) salary for some

Mon, 04/25/2011 - 19:30 | 1205744 tomster0126
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and for some, they cant even save a month's salary away per year because of how much shit costs these days...the consumer economy is crashing, we're lucky we're posted up with our physical so swaggishly.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 21:14 | 1194907 Snidley Whipsnae
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Tyler!... "No Commentary Necessary" ... Absolutely correct!

Let them eat cake! lol

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:39 | 1193633 Phillips Capital
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Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:02 | 1193759 cossack55
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Looks like ASEs are averaging about $ 55.00 on EBAY

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:21 | 1193859 T1000
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They're over $60 on

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 19:22 | 1194621 Hearst
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APMEX RAISED premiums again.  $4.19 over spot for random years..

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:20 | 1193869 RockyRacoon
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I see the U. S. Mint took down all the sets that were selling below spot!

When they are relisted they'll be well over.   I hope everyone got theirs.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:19 | 1194148 Moe Howard
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Thanks to you Mr. Racoon I have 10 in the ground and 10 coming in today. I would have never looked without your tip. Thank you sir.

Thank you Tyler for the Joe Biden level CAPTCHA.


<HELP> For explanation.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:23 | 1194167 prole
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Say Rocky... a friend of mine...  told me your tips and updates are greatly appreciated sir.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 21:15 | 1194913 Snidley Whipsnae
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Monster Boxes Rocky!

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 01:06 | 1195370 StychoKiller
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All the silver quarter proof sets are "temporarily unavailable"

Good thing I bought 4 sets the last time you recommended them -- thanks!

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:39 | 1193955 Pants the Silve...
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you might be able to do better at


check in periodically to see what's listed

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:18 | 1194144 JFK.4PREZ
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March 22nd.  Spot was at 36 and I bought silver eagles at 37.50 (including shipping) off of ebay.  it has been my most self-acclaimed silver purchase  :)    but then again my average purchase price is around 30/oz - so im sure most of you guys get the last laugh.  

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:39 | 1193634 Roy Bush
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I don't know whether to be happy or scared....

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:38 | 1193642 Sudden Debt
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Thu, 04/21/2011 - 21:20 | 1194918 Snidley Whipsnae
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Monster Boxes SD! Blanchard called us today and wanted to know if we wanted to sell some... NOT! lol

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:15 | 1193839 NotApplicable
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Makes my gut rumble.

When I first got smart about PMs back in 2003, I came home one day and told my family that I had good news and bad news. Good news: We're going to be rich. Bad news: That's because rich is a relative term, and most everyone else is going to be very, very poor.

Now we're in the boonies with very defensible territory from the upcoming zombie hoards.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:02 | 1194071 Dr. Porkchop
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Zombies want brains, not PMs.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 20:16 | 1194773 SteveOoooo
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Brains and PMs go together.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:22 | 1194150 rumblefish
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not sure why your were junked. PM's and strategic location sounds like a good spot to be in.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 21:22 | 1194925 Snidley Whipsnae
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NA... Whoever junked you missed the silver train. Screw em.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:17 | 1193849 Magnix
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Try Jesus!

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:03 | 1194061 bruinjoe93
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I have and it's been all good. Praise Jesus.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:06 | 1194076 Id fight Gandhi
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He's still touchy about being sold out for silver...

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 21:22 | 1194932 Snidley Whipsnae
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The only time Jesus got angry is when he 'threw the money changers tables from the temple'...

He was no friend of the banksters...

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 21:58 | 1195001 Hephasteus
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Behold I have made all things new. Followed by 2000 plus years of the same old crap. Maybe the new was just perception and not reality.


Fri, 04/22/2011 - 01:10 | 1195374 StychoKiller
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"As ye believe, so is it done unto ye!"

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 02:08 | 1195421 Hephasteus
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Mindfuck fail in 3.. 2.. 1....

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 12:09 | 1196388 Attitude_Check
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Think long time scale, and internal vs external.  Remember the majority of His followers were expecting Him to become their  King, and drive out the Romans.  They also expected Hope and Change - quickly of their circumstances vice themselves.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:42 | 1194219 prole
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Perhaps, but he is 100% pro-Au.  (Matthew 2:112).

And wine. And swords. dyodd.

Oh and he never had a bad word to say about the ladies.

(edit-Warning-that link is botched. but the quote is valid)

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:30 | 1193924 deacon_blues
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You can choose to remain on the train tracks of the oncoming locomotive or step aside. 

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:36 | 1193940 hambone
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This is not "good", even for PM holders as it means things are getting out of control.  Folks are running from "money" into the tangible. 

But on another hand this is akin to pre-op for a surgery to remove a cancerous tumor...there is some percentage of risk that the patient does not survive though.  However, without the surgery, patient will die for sure.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:13 | 1194125 Saxxon
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Yes the USD is turning down hard but look, gold and oil were not up much today. Ag is occupying an entirely different Bardo.  There are reasons, all of which have been gone over on this board many times.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:23 | 1194157 franzpick
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I'm developing a slight fear that as things get more out of control the desparate fedsters will invent some "strategic metal" or other seizure scheme designed to stop a mass flight into PMs and a public anticipation of the impending bond and fiat collapse.  Don't see how they can go the last mile to each house to get the metal, but keep envisioning the Crumex being closed, with only foreign markets open, and no shipping available.  Maybe time to think more about foreign 'doomsteads'.


Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:37 | 1193636 nope-1004
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Goldcore video.  Very well done.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:40 | 1193638 Dangertime
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Looks like one final gasp left in silver.  Monday or Tuesday should be the peak.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:45 | 1193653 Sudden Debt
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sure, your dog told you that he?


 The market is calculating in a +200 billion QE. That will make the dollar dive to 2$ vs. 1 euro.

Gold will soon spike to 1680$ and drop to 1395$ and get back up to +2000$ after the summer. (end of D wave).

Silver is loosening it's chains. It goes up to 120 by juli.


Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:48 | 1193684 Dangertime
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Have you ever noticed what happens to gold and silver in the summer?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:51 | 1193696 cowdiddly
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The Metal gets warmer and its shines even brighter in the sun? lol

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:58 | 1193711 I Am The Unknow...
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Haven't you heard about the Turd?

t-t-t-t-t-t-t-Turd, Turd, Turd, The Turd's The WORD!

Turd, Turd, Turd, t-t-t-Turd

Haven't you heard, about the Turd?

Don't you know that the Turd is The Word?

Is it you, is it really you...William the Fucktarded Bastard?  Could it be you?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:21 | 1193864 NotApplicable
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Do you not realize that PMs have went from an investment holding to an insurance one?

While there may well be some slippage, this is no time to be playing speculator. Besides, Blythe desperately needs everyone to sell, and I'll be damned if I help her out.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:27 | 1193895 RockyRacoon
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Have you ever noticed what happens to gold and silver in the summer?

Sure.  Have you looked at the reflective properties of silver?  You could use a silver eagle to signal aircraft on a sunny day.  The uses are limitless!

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:15 | 1194133 Vendetta
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Indeed I have.  I usually place a silver dollar over my girlfriends nipple and bump uglies like banshee's in heat out in the woods.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 07:48 | 1195618 nmewn
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"Have you ever noticed what happens to gold and silver in the summer?"

Hows that falling knife "short position" you took out last week workin out for ya?...what is that? a 15-17% loss so far? you think you can make 30% to break even on it, or have you covered already?...this will be a very valuable lesson for you and your self described "team"...LOL.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:51 | 1193700 geminiRX
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I think silver bulls should be hoping for a correction to make the rally sustainable.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:07 | 1193792 schoolsout
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anything other than running up, day in/day out.

This thing has been relentless...

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:21 | 1193873 KinorSensase
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well could this just mean that the rates are starting to operate on a greater scale, indicative that the bull is just beginning?  i.e., longer upswing before the correction?  i agree with you but i gotta say this is slightly bonerific.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:25 | 1193899 Temporalist
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I guess compared to how the stock market is unstoppable it's so difficult to believe that anything other than equities can go up?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:37 | 1193957 geminiRX
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Excellent point. I lost a lot of cash trying to short that f*cker. Making it all back in silver. Just gotta find that mysterious exit point.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:41 | 1193965 geminiRX
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I figure I'll go long till about $80 and pull the plug on silver there. 

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 08:37 | 1195678 TomJoad
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There is no exit point you fool!

Unless you mean exit into land, food, or ammunition.



Jump! You Bankster Fuckers!

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:08 | 1193805 Gen X Gen Y Hybrid
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What makes you think $120 by July (I assume you mean 2011)?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:23 | 1193877 Magnix
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$120?! What makes you think you're so right? I dont think so. I would probably say in the range $60 to $70 this summer. I hope.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:55 | 1193905 cowdiddly
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I don't know if this will overshoot or not but this is a free ride until 140. How long that takes, who knows but its looking like about 1.25 a day. I already have my sell price in mind and its comfortably north of  three digits. way harder than clicking a mouse on some little flashing numbers, Holding physical makes me feel like Frodo trying to throw the ring into the abyss with a contorted gremlin saying, NO--- NOT THE PRECIOUS. Dangerous stuff indeed.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:22 | 1194152 Vendetta
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Thu, 04/21/2011 - 20:42 | 1194827 FIAT_FixItAgainTony
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agreed on north.  dont make mistakes peeps.  silver is so short, i mean come on.

take ase's as an example.  it is physically impossible for every american family to own a roll of 20 each.  and that's a small, albeit smart, investment in silver in the family portfolio.

point therefore becoming fact:


Do not sell.

F the "alleged" peak.

In doubt?

refer back to example above.

i think at alleged "peak", our dear banksters will try and shake out the weak.  they always have caused all our pain, suffering and grief in the past.  so we conclude therefore we must remain strong.  consider this fact:

fiat = puke.

we agree?   good.

here, another fact:

there's more of us than there is of them.

now, rememeber when you were a kid and there was that one kid in the class who for some reason didn't like you and so vice-versa. 

concentrate.  translate your hidden resentments and direct that energy to the banksters.  let them learn our collective thoughts on the subject of what will or will not be considered money.

there will be no time to sell as we stand our ground against the sick bastard scumbags of conterfeit paper pushing ponzi schemes who are overdue for a good hangin!  there will be a need to share the silver wealth however.  but it remains in the local community where it matters most for each of us.

gotta do the same in the courts.

f this bs of people loosing their homes.

the decision is final.

went through MERS, bring the fucking note.

no note?  goodbye.

dont come back.

how do we do this?

well, im waiting to hear from an AG.

i carefully crafted my letter's wording.

i asked questions.  i made statements.

i demanded proper action under the law.

before you junk my "yeah writing a letter will help" let me remind you i worded my letter well.  in legalese land, silence is agreement.  my letter will be admissible in courts as proof of undisputed fact.  oh yes my zh friends, the rabbit hole runs very deep.  legal land is a great work of fiction, writing in the field has exceptional value it appears.  alas i admit, like i really expect a bought politician to side with me and hear back from the AG, in 30 days his silence is complete agreement.  that means the AG admits the interests of the few banking institutions outweighs the property rights of the people and the rule of law.

if such is the case, i suggest we face a tranny that needs to be brought back to original intentions.  we cannot grant them any jurisdiction to rule over us.  all that silent contract we have with them relates to fiat money.  we are together under common law, because it is soon to be verified the rule of statutory law does not exist.  we no longer grant them any jurisdiction!  we are backed with silver, friendships, family, god, guns, food, knowledge and vehicles. 

here is how this works in an example:

they are foreclosing on Sally's home.  as friends and neighbors we all know the problem she faces.  so, as many people as possible need to go with sally on the court date.

200 people there to testify "since there is no note, reasonable minds can conclude that MERS as nominee has broken the perfection of the real property lien and further the lack of a note proves no balance is owed."

the judge can't say squat to a group of 25 or more in common decision in the courtroom.  that's why they "single us out' to bring us into court, which by the way is their "place of business".  so, for "us" to "use" their court to our favor, we need to have control of the court by common agreement from those present.

think about it.   basic law.  "democracy" if you will.

forecloses have to end and end yesterday would be too soon.

f the banksters plans.

we gotta stick to our plan and add some new plans.  new "secret plan A v2.5":

a) stick to plan A and fuck unbacked paper ponzi.

b) start going to court to support anyone dealing with a court.  if the judges can't judge properly they need to be replaced with the local communities opinion on the matter.

c) keep the peace.

d) keep stackin and transact in silver locally so more folks get it. 

the Constitution requires us to lawfully transact using silver as intended. 


420 silver bullets and silver shields bitchez!

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 21:15 | 1194912 augie
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good luck tony.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 22:01 | 1195021 Dantzler
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A little geeking out since I was incredulous...

Average Family Size: 3.19

Population: 301,461,533

=> Families = 94,502,048 x 20 = 1,890,040,959

Total mintage of ASEs since 1986 = 448,447,480

or about 4 3/4 per family - not even a roll of quarters...


Fri, 04/22/2011 - 00:05 | 1195259 geekgrrl
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"=> Families = 94,502,048 x 20 = 1,890,040,959"

What does the 20 term represent?

More telling perhaps is that if we calculated silver eagles per capita, it is just shy of 1.5 per person. I get the impression people here have 100-10000x that amount (just a guess), so I think there are going to be a lot of people with none when the music stops.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 02:34 | 1195441 FIAT_FixItAgainTony
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they were referring to my example of a tube of ase's per family (20 coins per tube) as a very modest investment.  you are correct.  the math won't allow it.

the market is well BEYOND short at this time.

die, die, die our loathed blythe.  take your jpm bosses with you.

meanwhile we keep stacking and yes, many will have none!

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 02:47 | 1195457 geekgrrl
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Thanks Tony... :-)

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:48 | 1193683 Temporis
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Math Man is that you?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:50 | 1193695 SheepDog-One
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LOL dangertime, Im been hearing the same BS since silver was at $12 'Its a bubble....its going to implode any second now...'

See ya at $70, dick.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:29 | 1193762 akak
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The pro-bankster trolls are getting more desperate and hysterical with each and every passing day, not to mention more obvious in their blind hatred for silver as it pulls down the curtain on their masters' fiat house of cards.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:29 | 1193913 RockyRacoon
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I just love the CNBC talking heads saying that PMs are in a bubble -- yet the stock market has "more room to run" or "really has legs".   Mandy has legs but that's about it.   Seeing her neckline this morning is proof that she has more desirable attributes as well.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:50 | 1193938 akak
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She could go on air stark naked, but that atrocious Australian accent of hers ("the mAHHHHHket") is an instant boner-killer for me.

PS: Mandy, there are no such places as "Chinar" and "Indiar".

PPS: Just what is up with the corporate-controlled media foisting all these hard-to-understand Aussies and Limeys on us here in the USA in the last few years, anyway?  Anyone else notice this trend?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:54 | 1194036 tmosley
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Mute is a good remedy for that.  Also makes you much less likely to stab your ears with an icepick.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:03 | 1194060 akak
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Also makes you much less likely to stab your ears with an icepick.

Funny, that is essentially the effect I get whenever I subject myself to Mandy's outrageous Aussie accent.

If you really want to laugh, just wait for her mangled attempt to pronounce "ten year yield".

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 18:59 | 1194564 Bay of Pigs
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A Big Oink and thank you to you fine gents and all your contributions here. Even if I wasn't a long term Goldbug, I'd read ZH just to watch you guys hammer the trolls into the ground. ;o)


Bay of Pigs


Thu, 04/21/2011 - 19:08 | 1194580 akak
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Thanks for the thanks!  And too bad I couldn't jump one island north back in January or February --- would have been fun to meet a fellow Zh'er in real life.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:51 | 1194305 Frank N. Beans
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you know why, because they sound dignified, refined, intelligent, learned, with a bone up their ass, compared to us redneks.  and because you gawk at them for talkin that there way. it's all marketing.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 21:37 | 1194967 RockyRacoon
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Mandy's got that slutty, bleached-blonde, tight skirt look.  On the other hand I'll bet she's a sight right out of the shower.  I've had some rude awakenings on some past mornings like that.  Hose 'em down and they lose the luster.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 01:17 | 1195381 StychoKiller
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Go long cosmetics!

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 02:21 | 1195434 natty light
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Cute but her voice is really irritating like that Stones song "I can't stand them on the telephone."

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:37 | 1193959 Dangertime
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Do you remember the fall from $14 back to $8?  That was a rough one.


Wonder how low this one will go.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:07 | 1194085 akak
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I troll, I troll, it's off to work (for JPM) I go!

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 12:16 | 1196411 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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Dey see me trollin'
dey hatin'

trying to catch me postin' dirtae

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:12 | 1194121 tmosley
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No, but I do remember when it went from $20 to $8.

If you really had gold and silver when you said you did, you would know that.  But you didn't, because you are a damned liar, as I pointed out yesterday (due to your flip flopping on when you "bought" gold and silver, first saying you bought them at the same time when gold was it its absolute low--something that lasted for 14 trading days, then changing your story to say you bought silver a year later, despite the fact that the price was never in the range you claim it was at the supposed time of your purchase).

Get the fuck out of here, you lying troll.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 19:30 | 1194639 Hearst
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I remember the 2008 $20 to $8 dive courtesy of JPM and friends.  It was seriously gut wrentching!  We have come a long way since then.  The spotlight is on Silver in so many ways.  I love these dollar up days.  Can't wait till their $5 up days!  All the while the MSM will be screaming bubble while it's still one of the most under owned assest classes on the planet.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:20 | 1194153 Testicular Cancer
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DT, remember when humans bought T-bills & not banks or the Fed. Remember when a barrel of oil was a tenth the current price? Remember when QE stood for a ship & not monetization? Remember when inflation took into account luxuries like food and gasoline?

Wonder how high this could go?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:26 | 1194178 Vendetta
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It wasn't rough at all, it was expected.  The next one will be from around 55 retrench and consolidate around 27 then head for the moon ... it will wave at you when it gets there.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 20:05 | 1194754 Hephasteus
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You remember Bear Sterns died of critical stupidity disease and when JP Morgan got the critiical stupidity disease in the will?

That was a rough one wasn't it.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 22:31 | 1195091 SilverFish
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Prob not low enought to make up for all the sucker bets you've placed since it was at 4/oz




life goes on though

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 02:25 | 1195435 natty light
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Like James Al-douche-er

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:27 | 1193901 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Let us be clear; you, Dangertime, were shorting last Friday.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:41 | 1193967 Dangertime
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You are right, bought my first puts on Friday the 15th and have been slowly scaling in since.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:14 | 1194096 akak
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After all your disingenuous half-truths, disinformation and outright lies in other recent threads, I put no stock in anything you have to say further in this forum.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 21:28 | 1194944 Snidley Whipsnae
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Dangertime... take your broken crystal ball and put it where the sun don't shine...

and, yes, I junked your stupid comment...

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 22:37 | 1195106 akak
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I always have to laugh at the idiocy of these trolls who do not or can not realize how patently obvious they are to the regulars here.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 02:14 | 1195428 Hook Line and S...
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Think how frustrating it must be for an agency to hire .gov workers to troll, when they must suspect that they are being transformed by the truth in every moment of their job.  We know, and your employer stands helplessly as you undoubtably are undermining their purpose during off-hours...out there at the coin shop, buying Au and Ag hand over hand!

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 23:05 | 1195165 akak
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(Double post --- I swear it wasn't my fault!)

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 23:20 | 1195185 MrBoompi
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The market is tight already. If the price drops it won't get looser.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 01:21 | 1195383 StychoKiller
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But, but... Au & Ag are just like stocks, only shiny!  Anyone that "thinks" Au & Ag are "investments" are gonna get a rude awakening! :>D

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 12:14 | 1196402 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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by Dangertime
on Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:40


Looks like one final gasp left in silver.  Monday or Tuesday should be the peak.


Hey, JohnnyBravo is back!  Didn't you tell us that at $18, $22, $28 etc?
Did your buddies in business school recommend that you keep making predictions but become more nebulous about time frames?  Wow A peak on monday OR tuesday?  Is that on a 30 second chart of a 15 minute chart or is it going to be the peak for years to come?

JB, quit listening to what your d-bag classmates tell you over glasses of cheap beer and hubris.  People in academia know nothing if the last 12 years are any indication.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:38 | 1193639 arnoldsimage
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and here's zephaniah bringing it...
And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.


Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:45 | 1193669 nope-1004
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Is the reference to being "delivered by silver and gold" related to false gods?  I think so.  I don't think the reference is to wealth preservation, is it?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:44 | 1193678 arnoldsimage
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their precious metals will not be able to save them from the wrath of the lord.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:51 | 1193697 nope-1004
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Mark 10:25

“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God”.


You can pick anything related to finance and claim Gods' wrath.  Depends how one uses it.  Personally, I'm not worried.  I believe Benocide should be, though.


Thu, 04/21/2011 - 15:52 | 1193719 arnoldsimage
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i didn't claim "god's wrath." the lord said it. don't shoot the messenger.

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:01 | 1193757 magpie
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The wrath of Bernank with 25 points ? The Wrath of Yuan ? Wrath of Technical Default ?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:09 | 1193807 VegasBD
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If the messenger is messaging religious crap...I would not be against him getting shot for it. =)

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:31 | 1193926 Idisq
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Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:42 | 1193970 Shell Game
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You mean the nude hottie messenger?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:18 | 1194143 EvlTheCat
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Good call Shell Game!

Ephesians 5:1-7 arnoldsimage

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 22:42 | 1195118 Creed
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Mark 10:25

“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God”.


eye of a needle was the name of a gate in the wall

a camel had to stoop to get thru

a man stooping to his knees indicates humility

the point is that most rich people find humility a foreign concept

because they have all their needs met and need nothing from anyone, especially that ephemeral voice in the sky

there are multiple examples of rich men with humility in the Bible such as Abraham or David, so it isn't impossible; a literal camel squeezing thru a literal eye of a needle is impossible



Fri, 04/22/2011 - 01:26 | 1195389 StychoKiller
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All right, put the brain down and back away slowly -- we don't want any trouble in this establishment! :>D

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 16:23 | 1193888 Magnix
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Amen, but your profile picture doesnt please the wrath of the Lord!

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 17:35 | 1194220 Vendetta
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James 26 "Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless"

I believe that, not you.

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