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More Child Abuse Heaped On Zero Intelligence

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I was interrupted from peacefully watching a financial news station (Bloomberg TV lest there be some confusion) when I got this email: "the sweaty, drunk guy on CNBC is bashing you again." Curious, I decided to investigate. Not surprisingly some more ad pseudonymem amusement ensued:

 

It's funny one should mention "allegedly factual", because ironically the last time a CNBC talking head attacked Zero Intelligence, the whole ploy was scripted from the beginning to boost CNBC's traffic and viewership (we have yet to see June's Nielsen ratings for the outcome: we will promptly provide that once available).

As to the BS that blogs like Zero Intelligence spread, it is all based on linked and referenced facts (yes, that's what those graphs and hyperlinks in the posts are for, click them, you may be surprised what you find). Charlie, here is a primer on how blogging works (and no Steve, it is called blogging, and not reporting, just because of the following) - it is feedback driven: if a blog does provide false and misleading data it is always called upon it, and people lose interest. Simple as that. And, as I retorted to your less than primetime spot colleague Dennis Kneale, in blogging the content is king, not the messenger. To wit:

"Zero Hedge is not about personalities, goatees or glasses - it is about
ideas, facts and opinions. People come to Zero Hedge not because of my
chiseled washboard abs, but because they appreciate my insight into
things financial and economic. My personality is not relevant when
discussing critical concepts. Who knows - maybe I do not care for being
recognized while having dinner at Campagnola."

Oh, and here is our manifesto. Check it out some time.

But Charlie does make a good point: people do in fact get a lot of their information from the Internet. More and more in fact. And the reason is because they now openly mistrust organizations which have massive reporting conflicts of interest, compliments of their highly troubled parent companies, whose well being (and by extension, the paychecks of said TV pundits) depend on the perpetuation of the confidence and economic soundness fallacy.

Furthermore, Zero Intelligence is not an investment advisor, nor does it promote any securities. If we did, we would disclose it. Just like you should disclose at the beginning of every segment that CNBC is a direct subsidiary of GE which is a recipient of over $51 billion in taxpayer cash via the FDIC's TLGP (see the link to the left? click on it). Having your interns actually perform some diligence before that 2 minute soundbite "exclusive" is a great way to spend some of that $51 billion. Try it out.

Nonetheless, Zero Intelligence completely agrees with Charlie that those seeking important, critical, and relevant information should absolutely go to openly satirical websites such as Dealbreaker and Clusterstock. After all, CNBC knows a thing or two about truth and satire.

In the meantime, please forgive us Charlie and Steve if in our pursuit of the definition of reporting, we stumble upon some other peculiarities about potential conflicts of interest that may or may not involve CNBC pundits.

In conclusion, while we realize that we could never do as good a job as Charlie has done promoting us, Zero Intelligence is in the process of submitting an RFP for purchasing 5 hours of 18,000 subsecond ad blocks on CNBC, to be interspersed within the Power Lunch segment. We will advise readers on the outcome. Perhaps we can all split the cost as ironically Zero Intelligence has no external (and definitely no taxpayer subsidized) funding, aside from our recurring readers consistently finding interesting content on our pages.

 

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Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:22 | 13120 erich
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Charlie is an attractive man!  At one time he was an interesting read!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:24 | 13122 Gobsmacked
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haha - nice.  Oh and nice edit job (i just noticed) on the name above...

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:26 | 13131 Anonymous
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Nothing wrong with using an alias. If you want to keep your job or get a job in the future you had better use an alias. Not everyone can work for an entertainment channel.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:26 | 13132 Stuart
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Charlie jumped the shark a LOOOONNNGGGGG time ago...  now he's not much more than a paid bitch.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:31 | 13134 spekulatn
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Once again TD,  well done. 

 

"MARK IT ZERO, DUDE" 

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:30 | 13136 Milton
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Who was that old queen on CNBC that just called tyler a tickity-tacky super tranny hot mess that is not apologizing for it?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:30 | 13137 Anonymous
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It's very telling that they want you to reveal your identity, Tyler. ...If I may (very poorly) paraphrase 'V for Vendetta':

"You are an idea. And that is what scares them the most, because ideas cannot be destroyed".

Please don't reveal yourself. Ever. Because only then can they (and will they) discredit you.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:34 | 13146 spekulatn
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Nailed it , anon.


Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:19 | 13323 Anonymous
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Agreed.

-V

-aka Anon

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:13 | 13213 Anonymous
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I agree with anon# 13137, Tyler. You have them (CNBC, GS, et al) scared and they are desperately trying to get you to reveal your identity so they can discredit you. Don't let these morons get under your skin, you are winning by the massive following you have attracted to your site in search of the truth. Keep up the great service you are doing for our Country by getting the truth out to the public. Their game is almost over and they KNOW IT!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:27 | 13238 Anonymous
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Sorry but I don't trust anyone, not even Tyler. Everybody has a motive. It would be equivalent to trusting Goldman Sachs.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:39 | 13262 cougar_w
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You don't have to trust anyone per se. It pays, however, to pay attention to everything. It's like the scientific method; tell us what you got, give us the source references, we can verify the details. If it's good, it stands. Move forward one step. Repeat. This is how you build a model of the universe that anyone CAN trust.

So... what alternative is there to that? None alternative, I submit.

cougar    <-- mad scientist

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:55 | 13291 Anonymous
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"None alternative,..." Is that like "It goes to eleven." How much higher does it go? "None more."

Anyhow, you are right, however, we are almost inundated with data. There is so much out there it begins to be just that - data. The question is how do you turn data into information.

I still have a question outstanding. What is the effect of inflation (falling dollar) on equities. Do equities behave like commodities? That is, as the dollar falls it requires more of them to buy an equity?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:57 | 13377 Anonymous
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Yes. Inflation or mild currency concern can cause indices to rise. The more obvious it is, the more narrow the selection of 'stuff' it chases.

Euphoria = stocks. Concern = commodities. Panic = gold.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 18:00 | 13383 cougar_w
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I have no answer for you that would satisfy you. Someone else might try.

But let me try this: I think you have asked the wrong question. The better question might have been this...

With things both coming unwound in horrific ways, and governments and institutions working madly -- even randomly --  to keep the economy from falling apart, are there ANY rules for investment or ANY valid indicators left? Is trading-on-value completely dead for X number of years going forward?

Here I think I will hazard a guess: No, and probably.

cougar

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 06:39 | 13819 Anonymous
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It actually makes sense not to blindly trust anyone. However, one must take all inputs and judge them by the validity of the arguments. If you go by what all the bloggers said, you might have missed the rally, if you go by what CNBC is telling you, you may be roasted toast in no time. The best is to use your judgement while keeping in consideration various inputs from various sources (CNBC as well as bloggers). They show you two sides of a coin.

Well that is the lesson I learnt hard way!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:32 | 13138 Danz Gambit
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GE is just one more relic from the past, teetering on three legs, waiting for the inevitable crash to the bottom

I for one, will dance a jig on the day Zero Intelligence (that's where I get my news these days) announces General Electric has filed for BK, and is being traded on the pink sheets

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:32 | 13139 Anonymous
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Why don't we send Marla to kick Charlie's butt? CNBC talking about "reporting" is sort of an oxymoron.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 18:40 | 13442 whacked
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The problem is that Charile would most probably enjoy it. Needless to say I pity Marla in that situation, as not only would she lose her shoe, but her dignity.

His perception of his own self worth is from the fact that he is actually in the media and he thinks that he is performing a service. Pity it is only an attempt to impress those with the money.

No job at GS for a PR person Charlie, so try and keep your current job.

 

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:33 | 13143 DebtorShredder
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You should have asked Charlie about his greatest hits collection:

http://gawker.com/5235998/cnbc-the-movie/gallery/#

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 18:44 | 13446 whacked
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Charlie that was so ..... zen like ....

 

"I don't have what I got?????"

 

Is this trying to impart to the public that you do not have a personality?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:36 | 13147 economessed
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All this attention those dramatic thespians pay this site is taking vital time away from their job of carrying someone else's water.

Each minute devoted to the common folk who trade their ideas here takes away from the serious business of educating the rest of the world about what they should be hearing.

Now shut the hell up and tell us how much better everything is getting!

 

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 21:25 | 13558 dark pools of soros
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right - and all the time everyone here is hopping up and down on GE's punching bag is taking ZH off the ball

 

stay sharp Tyler - don't pander too much..  they might show you their chin to open you up for an uppercut

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:36 | 13148 Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:49 | 13175 Danz Gambit
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The Most Important Film Scene Ever? My money's still on this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMBZDwf9dok

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:47 | 13365 Anonymous
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Agreed.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 01:41 | 13749 Anonymous
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Check the sample. Marla if you're around, give 'em a spin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWPWegM5QO0

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:37 | 13150 Dixie Normous
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Charlie just looked up "opining"

Michele Caruso Cablahblah looks like Gerard Depardieu in Cyrano de Bergerac.

That other cow Sue Herrara walks the streets for money (short money mind you)


Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:37 | 13151 Miles Kendig
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Pardon me, I cannot but believe that Charlie fellow is some sort of resturant critic, or something along those lines...  Or his he the maître d'  of CNBC employees and their contacts within the world as it is known to them?  Am I mistaken?  Anyone?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:38 | 13152 Anonymous
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CHARLIE ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS!!!

WHO CARES "WHO" HE/SHE/IT IS?

It does not invalidate his FACTUAL FUCKING DATA YOU DOLT!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:40 | 13154 Anonymous
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"Further more, Zero Intelligence is not an investment advisor, nor does it promote any securities."....Technically, Tyler, you may be wrong here. Marla was on here selling invisible ice cream cones the other day. I think they were in securitzed form.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:52 | 13183 Anonymous
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S & P just upgraded em to AAA, I made 4 mil in a week on that deal.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:42 | 13268 cougar_w
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epic funny. lolz

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 20:22 | 13525 Anonymous
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Marla,
Can I get some jimmies on mine...pweassse?
xoxo
Bonddude

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:41 | 13155 Moe Speeks
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Charlie is a sell-out 

I have documented proof

http://moespeeks.blogspot.com/2009/07/charley-gasparino-get-put-thru-bul...

I know, I know, more shameless plugging by Moe Speeks

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:41 | 13156 assumptionblindness
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I used to watch CNBC for the news then I watched for the 'expert' opinion and analysis then I watched for the corporate propoganda so I could front-run the sheeple...today I learn about rabid-cross-dressing-mornoic-bloggers?  I laughed so hard that sprayed beer through my nose onto the television...now I don't watch TV anymore :-(  

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:42 | 13157 Dont Taze Me Bro
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I've learned more about current affairs in the last 3 weeks of following this blog than I would have ever had by watching one year of CNBC. ZH rocks!

On a side note, why do you want to purchase ad time on CNBC? Why give them extra profits? Boycott the bastards!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:47 | 13171 jym
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notice he said "18,000 subsecond ad blocks"

 

 

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:15 | 13215 Dont Taze Me Bro
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hehe, my bad. Missed the humor :)

 

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:49 | 13176 Anal_yst
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Dude, have you ever seen Fight Club?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:43 | 13159 luster
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TD should take this abuse as a compliment. If his analysis of HFT and other topics wasn't spot-on, GS's CNBC goons would not even bother to mention Zero Hedge.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:52 | 13161 D.O.D.
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I'm starting to wonder if CG is not in actuallity TD...this of course would be the ultimatte ultimate in cross polinization, TD being the Batman, GC being Bruce Wayne..hmmmmm

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:33 | 13249 VegasBD
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Now THAT would be funny. Course TD would be more of a Santelli i think....

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 20:26 | 13531 Anonymous
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Alfred tell aunt whatshername not to hold dinner up.
Robin, to the Batpoles, old chum !!!
xoxo

Bonddude

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:44 | 13162 Anonymous
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The people at CNBC seem very defensive. It is a bit surreal to see "reporters" on a national network spend so much time hurling junior high playground insults at bloggers.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:58 | 13193 D.O.D.
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You should watch idiocracy to see the future of what we are now in the fledgling stages of; The dumbing down of the American population. 

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:44 | 13164 Anonymous
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Someone should ask ole Charlie what he thinks about the great American Revolutionaries whom frequently posted under aliases. Yes, Charlie the father of the Constitution used an alias!

On another thought, if you gave Tits Cabrerra a buzz cut she could pass for a guy. Neck down, of course.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:21 | 13328 silencedogood
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Anon,

I wonder what aliases you are referring too?

-Silence

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 18:32 | 13433 ghostfaceinvestah
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"Publius" used by Hamilton, Madison, and John Jay when writing "The Federalist Papers"?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:45 | 13166 Anonymous
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It's hard to take Pee Wee's Playhouse seriously anymore. Charlie (Randy the bully) Gasparino is little sensitive. Or was that the cartoon for today?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:47 | 13167 svendthrift
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Tyler, why not ignore them. Pose a 'financial blog' challange and see which of your "blogging" peers will agree. Under no circumstances will CNBC be mentioned. Any video necessary can come from Bloomberg. Use your numbers for your advantage.

 

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:47 | 13168 Anonymous
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ha subsecond ad blocks. I'm sure they understand that the only way for them to fight actual fact based commentary is on the terms they set - welcome to big tits hoolihan and jokey the palook's playhouse, Sesame Street for Big Kids. Fuck em. here's smore RATM - Bullet in your Head

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ofQydWQAGc

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:35 | 13253 VegasBD
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I been listening to more Rage lately....their music makes a hell of a lot more sense now.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:47 | 13169 Anonymous
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209 baby! - Michelle.

Yea baby!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:36 | 13347 dnarby
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BOY, wouldn't it be nice if those turned into famous last words...

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 18:07 | 13394 Milton
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Oh yeah baby, penetrating the 9,000, going deeper and deeper in positive territory baby, oh yeah, feel that short squeeze baby, oh yeah baby it's way too big to fail, baby.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:47 | 13170 Dixie Normous
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Futures off almost 4 points from highs!!!!!

 

Armageddon!!!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:48 | 13172 Anonymous
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Charlie

Please point to where Zero is moronic?

Your station is a joke, no one has the volume on ever, we just wait for news and then mute again.

There is no other purpose.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:49 | 13177 Anonymous
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Did you hear Herrera at the end?! 209, Baby, 209!!! It's 2009 and the Dow is at 9,000 and the permabulls are getting all jiggy. Classic. Sue, you still buy the SPY at the same price you could in 1998, Baby.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:59 | 13195 Dixie Normous
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I heard her

This is the same woman who was almost crying on air in March when the market was tanking.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:49 | 13178 Anonymous
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What a joke. Our company does such a great job Great leadership and we know what we are doing. OH we forgot to mention we need normal working people to give us 51 billion to keep up this charade. If i were in charge you would have gotton no money collapsed and would be begging for a job flipping burgers. How does it feel looking in the mirror every morning knowing your paycheck is from hard working americans who spend time in IRAQ DEFENDING THIS COUNTRY AND FIGHTING FOR truth JUSTICE AND FREEDOM.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:02 | 13201 Anonymous
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They feel fine. As long as it is them and not you.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:03 | 13202 Anonymous
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As long as it is you and not them. There, that's what I meant to say. Typing skills in need of check.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:51 | 13179 Anonymous
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They're mighty happy at the end with the DOW up 209 points. It's like they are saying, "Look what we did!"

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:51 | 13181 Anonymous
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Jesus where are they all going to work when the advertising $'s dry up? Mad Magazine?
Keep doing what your doing TD it must be killing them.....

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:51 | 13182 Ben_the_Bald
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I read here that this site's policy dismisses disclosure. Would you really disclose your positions? Then change your policy.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:58 | 13380 Ben_the_Bald
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OK, so at least one of you wants to go the "junk" route with me again. Fine, but re-read the site's policy here:

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/content/zero-hedge-conflictsfull-disclosure-policy

 

And the comments by Marla are quite interesting.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 18:34 | 13437 Marla Singer
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We think disclosure is bunk.  That won't stop us from doing it occasionally (especially for humor's sake).  But depending on our disclosures as some measure of "unbiasness" or whatever is dense.  Read at your own risk.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 20:32 | 13534 Anonymous
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I love you Mahla...ah I mean Spahtacus.

I am Spahtacus.
No, I am Spartacus!
No, I am Spartacus!

and so on. TD protected by the slaves.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:52 | 13184 Anonymous
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TD, they are desperate to reveal your identity bc news now is not about content but the messenger and you can always attack the messenger you can NOT attack or destroy an idea. No army can stop an idea whose time has come. Or something to that effect.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:00 | 13196 Dont Taze Me Bro
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Exactly!

These guys silence their critics via character assassination, and not having an identifiable character to destroy is very frustrating for them.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:37 | 13257 VegasBD
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Agreed. All their normal response tactics are useless and they are flustered. Theyve reverted back to junior high school name calling. I love it.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:55 | 13289 cougar_w
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"A great idea" is sometimes all you need to move things. Hitch it up to an honest assessment of reality, and you can get traction.

With traction... you pull. Hard.

The MSM is not interested in anyone pulling very hard on the curtain. There is nothing behind the curtain; empty suits and evaporated morality. Dust and funeral wrappings. They are dead.

Time to pull.

cougar

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:53 | 13185 economicmorphine
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Old media people will never get it.  When the last viewer shuts the channel off, they still won't get it.  They will never get it.  Next.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:53 | 13186 Anonymous
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Very, very smug aren't they. Perhaps the biggest collection of cartoonish characters since Looney Tunes.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:01 | 13189 ptoemmes
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Blinded by their own self importance.

 

Truly delusional....

 

Their arrogance is a good fit with the pigmen they so closely associate with and provide a stage.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:58 | 13298 cougar_w
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Well said. It's media conglomerate kabuki theater. These players are the same faces behind different masks.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:57 | 13190 chindit13
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Charlie, I know you are reading this.  First, let me say your rant today was less a rant than an admission.  It was also somewhat even handed.  Kudos.  And it is an admission that the internet, in all its forms is replacing MSM as a source of news. 

Humor us, Charlie.  Randomly pick out ten or twenty ZH articles from the past several months.  Sure, you will find some fluff here and there.  TD aims to entertain from time to time.  Nothing wrong with that.  (Your network, after all, pandered to the prurient with your recent Porn Special, so you are hardly in a position to criticize.)

 

On the other hand, what you will find in terms of variety and depth on ZH is top notch.  If you have any sense, and I think you do, you will see that it dwarfs anything your network carries.  Admittedly your audience---those with the sound on---are not well versed in the inner workings of finance or markets (which explains why Cramer has any audience at all), and even Rick Santelli (a knowledgable man) blows stuff over their heads and forces your producers to shut off his mike (FYI, most trading floors only turn on the sound when Santelli or Faber come on).

 

Admit, too, Charlie, that most every show and segment on CNBC is fluff, and regularly deteriorates into a screamfest.  Perhaps GE calls that entertainment.  Perhaps that will help taxpayer-saved GE from going deeper into the public trough, since Jerry Springer---of which CNBC most resembles---can lure advertisers with cacophany and inane dribble.

 

And Charlie, look around the office.  Do you really think any of your colleagues (save for Faber and Santelli) know a thing about finance or the markets or economics or journalism of the old school variety?  Even Bartiromo is a poser.  If you're honest, Charlie, you'll admit not a one of them could last a semester in Harvard Business School, and even less time on the desk of a major IB or hedge fund.  Be honest.  To a person they're all fluff, albeit with pumped up egos.  Behold Ozymandias! 

 

Come over to the dark side, Charlie.  Get a tip or two from Tyler and run with it.  Bring what you uncover to the masses.  You're enough of a bulldog to do it, even if your network will discourage you.  Win a Peabody so you can sit proudly and as an equal with Faber.  Leave the skirts and the empty suits who people your office in the dust.

 

Cowboy up Charlie.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:17 | 13218 Anonymous
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Thank you, well put. I award you all of my moron points.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:53 | 13284 VegasBD
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Charlie will not respond to you. You left your name. He will find an Anon comment calling him a drunk or Michelle a man and resopnd to that one on air calling them anonymous cowards spewing no facts etc etc etc.

 

Even tho my "fake name" doesnt not say Brian J Davis from Venice Beach, CA on it...a simple google search on it will tell you that. So naturally he wont respond to me either. His job is to entertain. Thats it.

 

Charlie....If GS had their own financial TV network would you watch it and  trust it?  GE is just another big financial conglomerate....yet you want us to trust your reporting? Cmon dude think about that for a second. Even if you were competent, your platform has its own agenda.  Youre just an entertainer, accept it.

 

.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:38 | 13351 dnarby
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+5

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:57 | 13191 Anonymous
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Bottom line: Michelle is a DUDE.

Hey 'Shelly, time to get a little more girly.

Start with makeup for the adams apple?

YIKES....

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:58 | 13194 Anonymous
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TD/MS, because of Charlie's frequent commentary on Zero Hedge, I think you should name him after a character in Fight Club. May I suggest you start calling him Robert Paulson?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:01 | 13199 Anonymous
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Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:16 | 13217 Anonymous
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gotcha. wonder where warren went on his europa trip? sweden, to drop a server off?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:01 | 13200 Anonymous
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"I know the blogs are best at debunking myths that can slip through a lot of the traditional media outlets," he said. "And that is why you are going to play such an important role in our success in the weeks to come."
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Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:04 | 13203 jym
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I've been reading for months and I never read a piece that directly lead me to buy or sell anything.

That's clearly not the goal of this site. It's to open people's eyes to just how manipulated this market is and really the economy as a whole outside the market too. Since about April or so it just seemed off. We kept going higher when we shouldnt have and this site helped validate a lot of my suspicions.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:04 | 13204 Anonymous
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CNBC bashing constitutional rights ? Are they front runners for a fascist dictatorship ?

These journalists should do some research, before demanding thing which are against the United States constitution.

In the United States freedom of expression is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Anonymous speech:

In Talley v. California, 362 U.S. 60 (1960), the Court struck down a Los Angeles city ordinance that made it a crime to distribute anonymous pamphlets.

It's a constitutional right to communicate anonymously, nothing wrong about it.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:11 | 13212 Gilgamesh
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Between The Administration, Mel Simon, and Jeff Immelt, there is Zero opposition/dissention allowed.

 

Time to grab some more SPG and GE puts, I sense.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:29 | 13240 Anonymous
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GE sub-$5

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:56 | 13372 Gilgamesh
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As long is Immelt is running things, I'll consider sub-zero.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:05 | 13205 Anonymous
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You should put your name and face to it.
You're losing credibility everyday.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:33 | 13247 Anonymous
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Is that you Dennis?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:42 | 13356 Anonymous
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Ha, best comment for Anonymous! I don't even realize that I can be talking to myself right now.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:51 | 13368 Anonymous
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If I told you that 2+2=4, or that a deck contains 52 cards, or even described for you how photosynthesis works, would you require my name, address and social security number before you either (a) believed me, or (b) proved it for yourself?

Facts are facts, and reasonable interpretations thereof (when required) can be analyzed and discussed and ultimately accepted or rejected on their merits, without reference to a name, or a photo.

If you like personality, entertainment and slant, then CNBC is for you. Me, I'll keep reading Zero Hedge and other blogs where I can get information, analysis, and yes, informed opinion. Then, I'll make up my own mind on how to proceed.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:07 | 13206 Anonymous
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just sharing what i submitted via CNBCs comment form:

"i'm done ... after today's rant by gasparino about bloggers i will be removing CNBC from my bookmarks and will no longer be viewing CNBC-tv. the complete absence of journalistic integrity has finally run me off. even steve liesman [they're called bloggers not journalists] whom i used to respect has fallen into the pit of disrepute. i resolved some months ago to view CNBC only for breaking news but i can no longer tolerate the PR firm CNBC has become. you are leaving a huge gaping hole where your network used to be and the game is fox's to win; i wish them well. if you have any hope of regaining your reputation you will remove larry kudlow, dennis kneale, charlie gasparino, michelle caruso-cabrera and melissa francis from your network. i've really missed fast money since dylan and jeff departed. missy lee's high hems and open blouses are no substitute for substance. cheerleaders are no substitute for journalism. au revoir. you might take a moment to review this -- http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1254-Moronic-Media-Is-Redund..."

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:09 | 13207 Anonymous
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Charlie, listen to me carefully! If you want to find Tyler Durden, then look in a mirror. It is your own alter ego, you created it, because you wanted to fuck like Tyler, look like Tyler and tell the people TRUTH like Tyler. You are the major cause of Tyler's existence. Don't deny that. YOU ARE TYLER CHARLIE!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:20 | 13224 Anonymous
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Hee hee, brilliant.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:55 | 13292 VegasBD
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Good point. Charlie, you created Tyler in a way.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:10 | 13209 Anonymous
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If they are "reporters" why do they cheer when stocks go up?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:40 | 13354 dnarby
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Obvious, overlooked...  Brilliant.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:13 | 13210 Hondo
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So Charlie-Bonehead thinks just because we can see his babbling face it should give him credibility.  What a complete moron!!  He just doesn't get it.......or course that's why he's a moron!! 

There are so many quality sites on the internet where you can get analysis and information (unfiltered) that quite frankly......the likes of CNBC and Charlie -Bonehead are not needed.......actually they are detrimental to your portfolio.

 

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:16 | 13216 Gilgamesh
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The OhMeOhMy guy above just posted the info.  Why?  We can only surmise.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:23 | 13232 Anonymous
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I thought OhMeOhMy, KernelPanic, and SpongeBobSquareHedge got kicked off the site for exposing that ZH is a right wing disinformation unit working for Goldie-lox? Sucking shorts in so GS can eat them alive.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:39 | 13263 Danz Gambit
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Yes, anon needs to explain that statement - or remove it.

 

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:56 | 13293 VegasBD
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junk tags work

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:41 | 13267 Anonymous
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It was months ago Andy, and "Tyler" deleted all of the posts left in the old comment section. OhMeOhMy should have called him a coward for doing so but....

Do you really think this site is just 3 0r 4 guys posting random thoughts? It is MUCH more than that.

Why did CNBC spend 2 days on it? Pushing the site out to all of the uneducated viewers in their audience. Trust me, if you believe one word that "Tyler" and crew publishes then you deserve the financial punishment that will happen while following them.

Fri, 07/24/2009 - 15:36 | 14380 Anonymous
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@Andy Dufresne
Hey, they regularly have Nouriel Roubini (Dr. Doom) and Marc Faber (author of the Doom, Gloom & Boom report) on, to name only 2 of the bearish ones. So it doesn't seem difficult to get back on air at CNBC if you are not bullish.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:21 | 13326 Anonymous
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Anon#13267 says "Trust me, if you believe one word that "Tyler" and crew publishes then you deserve the financial punishment that will happen while following them."

WTF???? He ALWAYS references stats to back-up his opinion. I think you are confusing Tyler with the Government's tactics of deceit. You really need to delete Tyler's name in that sentence and replace it with "The Government, MSM or Bankers" take your pick!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:28 | 13334 Danz Gambit
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Your reply shows zero intelligence.

 

I'm not a fan of the junk flags, as deleting comments seems an attack on the freedom of speech. Although I believe you to be an idiot, I defend your right to prove it with your keyboard.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:33 | 13344 Dixie Normous
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Are you loading up on aluminum down here?  Your demand for hats and wall covering must be huge.

To reiterate what others have said, blogs are places where an individual can get a different opinions outside the MSM and then make their own judgements.

Anyone who trades off anything anyone else says is fool and should invest in mutual funds.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:45 | 13361 Anonymous
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TinHats M-fu*ker! Still love the ZH site but you guys have to stop blocking my IP addresses, how can I respond to the shill comments? Love and kisses (the original power program trader and charter member of the PPT)!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:43 | 13357 Anonymous
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CNBC does not like anyone challenging their franchise.

You are one sick puppy. Schizophrenia can be treated. Seek help before someone has you committed.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:14 | 13214 Anonymous
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Hey Leisman, you're still a faggot. Gasparino, you're getting real close.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:34 | 13251 Anonymous
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michelle, you're still a slut, remember the old days?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:17 | 13219 Optimystic
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Will we be able to get some ZI gear soon?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:19 | 13220 Anonymous
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The dolts on CNBC don't even realize what jokes they are and that they are the laughing stock of every trading floor on Wall Street. Now to make it worse they are being used as tools by the network execs to create a childish fight with the entire online community. Let them enjoy their blissful ignorance, its no wonder their ratings are pathetic and their parent company's stock is still down over 70% from where it was a couple of years ago.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:19 | 13221 Anonymous
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You have to host your blog in a third-party country or it will be shut down, tells you all you need to know about the state of so-called freedom of speech / freedom of press in the good ol' usa :(

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:20 | 13222 jortex
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Charlie's self importance because he can finally hang out in Elaine's and be recognized which makes him oh so much better than a blogger that freely gives out relevent market facts is laughable. They really do not get that so many Wall street professionals as well as middle americans are frustrated beyond belief with what they call reporting. Time to sober up and smell the coffee Charlie.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:20 | 13223 Anonymous
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“First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.”

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:31 | 13244 jym
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Maybe Tyler can be our Ghandi

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:39 | 13261 Anonymous
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He's mine already.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:20 | 13225 Anonymous
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Funny/ironic that the douches on cnbc may have given zh/zi its best name yet

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:21 | 13226 Anonymous
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I would personally take this as a compliment. You have obviously shown up on their radar, a surprising feat considering all the potentially relevant information they consistently under-report. CNBC has become a total joke and everyone knows it.

I don't think he really has a point that you're axed in any way. Nearly every market participant is axed in one way or another, and this certainly colors his or her presentation of the relevant statistical and economic data available. None of this, however, suggests that your material is in any way semi-factual or allegedly factual. It simply means that market participants should get their data from a variety of sources (none of them being CNBC) to include a wide range of information. Your point about his axe is extremely relevant as well...his is quite a hypocritical statement for such a clearly biased talking head.

Anyways, best of luck and keep sending us great stuff! Hope this little feud continues, it's really entertaining.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:23 | 13228 Anonymous
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Maybe CNBC should tick to porn.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:25 | 13235 Anonymous
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sorry I meant "stick to" not "tick to", don't want to get discredited because of a typing error, after all I'm just a dipshit "investor" posting a comment on a blog.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:29 | 13241 Anonymous
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yes cnbc and the like remind us more and more of mtv and vh1 every day because they sell pure trash.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:23 | 13230 Anonymous
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Seriously, I don't know why people actually expect mainstream journalists anything EXCEPT suck-ups.

Think about it. Journalism is one of the hardest professions to break into when you consider like any 'glam' profession the ratio of graduates to available jobs. So who gets in where there's so many bright young things to pick from? The ones who kiss up, excel at networking and don't rock the boat.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:38 | 13349 Anonymous
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Yes. I'm seeing that in my daily contacts with people working in the Corporate world that the "ones who kiss up", etc. are the ones who are deemed qualified to work there. Sad.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:23 | 13231 Anonymous
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Honestly who are the douchebags who still watch cnbc? They are trying every shock tactic they can to fight their fast sinking ratings. The quality of ads keeps sinking lower and lower, which tells you everything about both the true state of the economy and the true ratings (zero point zero) of that piece of shit channel

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:27 | 13237 Anonymous
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Please keep up the excellent work by exposing the truth about bureaucratic and corporate frauds, liars, and sensationalists.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:27 | 13239 Anonymous
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CNBC never fails to amuse.

Definitely the best comedy station out there. I love how they take themselves so seriously as if they have credibility.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:30 | 13242 Anonymous
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This is sick. A CNBC reporter(?) says that his mantra is like child abuse? Abusing the child bloggers out there, because his knowledge or intelligence is so much better that he feels that he is abusing them. Sick, disgusting, horrid, dispikable, intolerable.

GE - I like low energy lightbulbs, I like wind farms, I like hydro, I like a lot of stuff that you do.

I do not like this from your employees, this guy (and girl) are saying that they feel like child abusers on TV on your station! - come on! Sick and intolerable!!!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 18:02 | 13387 Anonymous
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Hey GE / CNBC Trolls - You get the message?

The cavalier statements of your disgusting employees has crossed the red line.

I would have never though GE would condone or broadcast abusive content.

Shame on you. You have a Public Relations problem!

What does your Human Rights Department have to say?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:30 | 13243 Gick
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Now that you have their attention, go at them twice as hard.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:39 | 13264 DebtorShredder
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That's the worst thing to do.

Why tie up his limited resources fighting GE?

He needs to just keep presenting the facts here and people will be able to draw their own conclusions. Which side do you think is representing the truth more accurately?

 

 

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:43 | 13271 Gick
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I meant keep pumping out the truth.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:31 | 13246 Gabriel Gray
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Stocks getting a big dose of reality after hours... carnage everywhere

amzn msfr jnpr cof even all the frequent fliers that already reported are down big.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:55 | 13288 Anonymous
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yes Yes Yes Why look at COF THEY MAY IF LUCKY EARN 20 CENTS 2010 WHY A PE OF 100 i think i may go all in!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:36 | 13256 Anonymous
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TD-

Are YOU paying the 1200/ month for the Bloomberg terminal? If not, where are you getting the screenshots?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:48 | 13278 Anonymous
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Dig deeper and you will discover who TD really is... OhMy!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:32 | 13341 cougar_w
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oh behave

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 22:53 | 13626 Quantum Noise
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Psst...Tyler is Mayor Bloomberg... ;)

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:37 | 13258 Anonymous
Anonymous's picture

Funny he did not mention Karl Denninger's name. Perhaps because his somewhat fresh post own's CNBC's lying ass.
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1254-Moronic-Media-Is-Redund...

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:40 | 13265 Anonymous
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Good work I hope all readers take a bit of they time and go to other msg boards and paste Zero hedge link to spread the knowledge and would like to see CNBC and GS being exposed of the corruption.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:44 | 13360 Anonymous
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Yes THE UNHOLY TRIOLGY

Federal Govt. - the Fed Reserve
Main Stream Media - CBNC
Corporate America - Goldman Sachs

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:44 | 13273 Anonymous
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can you go back to zero hedge now?
he's tv and sounds like a machine.
you don't argue with a machine.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:53 | 13286 ToNYC
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Hey Kemosabe, the Lone Ranger did it his way.
No need to drop the mask, keep the magic and the mystery. Drives the bad guys crazy. Zero Hedge is just outright.
Zero Intelligence is CNBC's audience..got to watch these earbud-fed puppets,  tune in to Art Cashedin,the UBS geezer, ready to get out his DOW 10,000 hat, marinate his ice cubes, and Abby Joe get trotted out like Flub-A-Dub , then too watching chubby Mark do his lightning subtraction and percentages is always such a thrill..the way he can subtract any time from the 6:29:52 bell always makes my morning...but the best is knowing the camera is moving backward through the empty garage the NYSE became after Island proved two servers could do the job. Now that we have HFT, we're melting up to the Hindenburg.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:56 | 13287 ToNYC
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Hey Kemosabe, the Lone Ranger did it his way.
No need to drop the mask, keep the magic and the mystery. Drives the bad guys crazy. Zero Hedge is just Outright.
Zero Intelligence is CNBC's audience..got to watch these earbud-fed puppets,  tune in to Art Cashedin,the UBS geezer, ready to get out his DOW 10,000 hat, marinate his ice cubes, and Abby Joe get trotted out like Flub-A-Dub , then too watching chubby Mark do his lightning subtraction and percentages is always such a thrill..the way he can subtract any time from the 6:29:52 bell always makes my morning...but the best is knowing the camera is moving backward through the empty garage the NYSE became after Island proved two servers could do the job. Now that we have HFT, we're melting up to the Hindenburg.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:57 | 13296 Anonymous
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Lol! I love the reverse double-agent conspiracy theories... TD is really none other than lucas van praag, shill for gs working in conjunction with ge to dupe the brainless shorts!! LOL

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