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More Details On What Government Shut Down Would Look Like
- *DJ Obama Admin Says IRS Would Shut Down If Budget Not Passed
- *DJ Obama Admin Says National Parks, Smithsonian Would Close
- *DJ Obama Admin: Cherry Blossom Festival Wouldn't Happen If Budget Not Passed
- *DJ Obama Admin: Roughly 800,000 Govt Employees Would Be Affected By Shutdown
- *DJ Obama Admin: EPA Permitting Would Stop If Budget Not Passed
- *DJ Obama Admin: Social Security Beneficiaries Would Continue To Receive Payments
- *DJ Obama Admin: Electronic Tax Refunds, Collections Would Continue
- *DJ Obama Admin: Military, Law Enforcement Will Continue To Function
- *DJ Obama Admin: Military Personnel Would Earn Paychecks, But Not Receive Them Immediately
- *DJ Obama Admin: White House Staffing Would Be Lower During Shutdown
- *ZH: POMO will continue come rain or snow: Russell 36,000 will not be denied, US bankruptcy notwithstanding
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No cheap weed anywhere in NYC, low grade youre forkin out $10 for 2 grams. Not even enough for 1 headache doobie.
grow your own with low voltage LED growlights. Now you don't have the risk of coming back to a burned out house and a lot of questions from the police.
But the Bernanke said there is no inflation.
I can't afford weed downtown anymore. But you don't see anyone self-immolating in Washington Square Park, do ya? We are a bunch of pussies. The Tunisians would know how to address this problem.
lol! kurt! + delta-nine superfreakcannabinoidal-o-shush!
SD-One, I laughed at the dry ditch weed my little brother produced last Friday evening in Iowa. There is a carry trade to be had (I'm out here in No.Cal. with a card and a cornucopia of product). Thinking . . .
see movie: Blow
IRS Shut Down? Those 3 words together sound beautiful. Lets have the Inland Revenue closed down in the UK :)
Shut the fucking thing down already!!!
What a bunch od BS. Nothing changes.
We're now supposed to be scared and panicking I guess. Wow they really do think we're all retarded sheep.
*DJ Obama Admin
What a stupid name for a DJ.
I hate it when coffee comes out my nose
So the MILITARY will earn but NOT be paid...but...CONGRESS and OBAMA will continue to be paid?????????????????????????
Oh but of course! And we're all now supposed to be scared and panicking and begging them to do something....ANYTHING...take whatever from us, rape us, just PULEEZE kep da gooberment OPEN!!
Military needs a better Union.
put obama and congress in the field to earn their pay
No one saw the cherry blossom black swan. Add it to the clusterflock.
The Republican chamber will vote against the government shutdown, using a a "patriotic" excuse such as "A US government shut down would harm the security of our troops, the public image of the USA, and our finances on the long term".
So rednecks will be satisfied and thus continue to vote for the Republicans, AND the government shutdown doesn't happen, so Republican congressmen can continue to get their fat paychecks from Wall St.
Heads they win, tails you lose.
The tea party knows they will have someone run against them in the primary if they compromise too much. Shut the fucker down! 40 billion is enough compromise!
Political 2 headed 1 party rube.
Pure theater.
you are wrong. The tea party will prefer a shutdown as to compromise further. They already compromised to 60 billion. Shut the fucker down now!
Most Tea Party people I know are perfectly OK with a shutdown.
Besides, it would be a GREAT education for us all to see what would happen...
Right, this is supposed to scare us into compliance, beg them to do anything but please just dont shut down my gooberment or something.
it doesn't scare the productive classes. Shut the fucker down now!
What is this tea party you speak of?
but but flowers won't blossom if we don't pay the government enough!
shut the fucker down!
Time for the parasites to get their comeuppance.
Nobody has to starve. Feeding people on the poorhouse is cheap. Otherwise get a fucking job
Not paying the military is grounds for impeachment
That's what I said.
The Republican chamber will ultimately vote against a government shutdown (despite the drama they made), and rednecks will love it because the glorious military will still be funded that way.
The MFM is already rounding up people willing to cry on camera, desperate to know how they will be able to pay their mortgage and feed their children.
then hunt down the whiny bastards and figure out which programs they are on...then cut them off...fucking parasites.
is breastfeeding parasitic? Can the govt grow more teats?
Hell yes, how do you think we got ourseves into this fiscal crisis! The US Federal Government has spawned so many udders, that there is room for little else on its body.
WASHINGTON, April 5, 2011 –
61 Percent of TX Immigrant Households with Children Use WelfareWASHINGTON, April 5, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Census Bureau data show that the share of immigrant-headed households (legal and illegal) with children (under age 18) using at least one welfare program continues to be very high both in Texas and the nation as a whole. This is partly due to the large share of immigrants with low levels of education and their resulting low incomes. The welfare programs examined in this report are SSI (Supplemental Security Income for low income elderly and disabled), TANF (Temporary Assistance to Needy Families), WIC (Women, Infants, and Children food program), free/reduced school lunch, food stamps, Medicaid (health insurance for those with low incomes), public housing, and rent subsidies.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20110405/pl_usnw/DC77458
The fact that illegals can access welfare and taxpayer dollars is reason enough to shut the whole damn thing down.
Right, since most americans are only eating and have a roof over their head due to a gubment check.
Folks crying on camera is more persuasive to the proles than reason. Even if what they are saying is provably wrong.
That study is in the can and proved in reality.
It's all just thespian antics.
"Shut down" is just the stage play: everything will keep going and functioning normally until it can't.
I'd just say call their bluff.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/federalbudgetprocess/a/Government-Shutdowns.htm
The country survived during past shutdowns.
"The country survived during past shutdowns."
Not "country" you actually mean "federal government". The unfortunate outcome of the 95-96 shutdowns.
Stop conflating country with .gov.
No, I meant country. We don't need a government to survive.
Controlling the proles from tit to grave is the function of progressive governments.
Ah, then hats off as you understand the distinction.
whattya about the high-priced hookers and fancy-pants boys for our Congress? WIll the CIA still be flying in freshly processed COKE to all branches of the gov? And will turbocharged broadband be available for gov employees for porn downloads?
Lets get the priorities straight.
I mean how fucking stupid is the Sotero administration? If you want to make a shutdown seem really shitty to Joe Sixpack don't tell them the IRS will shut down.
Idiots.
+1040
But what I want to know is how does this even matter to people to not want a gov't shut down.
Bureaucracy is a giant mechanism operated by pygmies.
- Honore De Balzac
+123 or however many books people figure slewie's fave #1 author penned! backgrounds of a landscape artist, sharply-drawn "real" characters interacting in fabulous plots over scores and scores of volumes of stories. his jacques collin, aka vautrin, makes prof. moriarty look like a pasteboard cut-out. simply the most intelligent, masterful, beautiful, underworld arch-fiend in the history of literature.
800,000 employees?! That's like 4 times times the size of GE almost as big a money pit!
Funny, no mention of the US Post Offices? Not rain, nor sleet, nor nuclear meltdowns...
The USPS is an independent entity...until it runs out of money, that is.
Won't shut down the USPS, but it could stop the $96 million budgeted annually by Congress for the "Postal Service Fund".
Which might close down some rural offices.
The Rio-Norte Line is breaking-up, we need steel from Rearden now!
Doesn't sound to bad to me...
Lets see, we're $40 billion in the hole on a $3.6 trillion budget we dont have any of the money for, so we'll shut down till we're allowed to spend an extra $30 billion then resume gubment operations as normal.
Seriously, does everyone in govt actually believe the other 99.9% of the country are clinically retarded?
For fiscal year 2011, the budget is 6.1 trillion USD and the deficit is now projected at 1.6 trillion USD (it will no doubt be higher).
Sheep, for a perspective the Feb 2011 deficit was over 200 billion. For ONE MONTH. Obama is threatening to "shut the government down" over 30 billion for ALL OF fiscal 2011. Yes he thinks we are all stupid.
I don't know which headline was the most dramatic. The thought of the IRS shutting down or the fact there are 80,000 unnecessary government workers currently on the payroll.
Thanks for the laugh!!
I couldn't agree more.
Harry Reid, John McCain, Maxine Waters, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, etc, ALL got reelected! Nuff said.
Americans will die if they shut down Wendys and MCD and IPHONES . Nothing else matters. BTW don;t stop that stupid TV shows wither. Everthing else they don;' care about.
Seriously: What's not to like. Shut it down.
BTFD
How about, start a panic with the closing of the government, possibility of a second recession stocks down 10-20%, then BOOM QE3!
Go Ben Bernanke! Oh how I wish there'd be a dip in silver so I can back up the truck. Come on JPM, get shorting!
++++$40 an ounce
DJ Obama Admin: Dancing With The Czars Will Continue To Function.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zab9cluVJa0
Great, i had to wait 7 months to recieve a partial payment of my GI bill tuition, Its been over a year since I submitted my Disability package with only an ocasional letter stating that "my case was being reviewed" and now the feds are capping tuition at 17k a year. My school is 28k a year where do you want me to come up with the 11k that was promised to me in the 9-11 GI bill? How is the shut down going to allow me to recieve my "entitlement"? that question is meant to be retohrical, i would gladly give up my full tuition benifits if it meant an accountable government but thats not the issue here.
THE CHINAMAN IS NOT THE ISSUE DUDE!
Mark it zero dude.
This isn't 'Nam Augie, there are rules.
fucking fasicts.
Your experience is not unique. I finally gave up, went to work and put myself through school (admittedly in 1990 dollars).
The time is coming when likeminded, intelligent, and similarly trained folks either exercise the second amendment or accept the terms of slavery being offered.
All one can do is hedge accordingly.
I'm a small arsnal ahead of you brother. I just pray it doesn't come to that but everyday seems one step closer to certainty.
augie. consider yourself a member of the militia as per amendment #2, us constitution, ok?
stack arms, enjoy the fellowship, try to get up to speed on food, PM's, and cash, if possible. take care of #1 in these respects. now.
do the best you can, son, relax, and enjoy the roses, ok? we're all hoping/praying for the same things you are. who knows? anything might happen...
Thanks for the kind words. I feel grateful my brother introduced me to this site. Being aliented sucks.
Shutdown the IRS? A day of true freedom.
I love this video headline on Bloomberg: "Balls says PIMCO to avoid Greece, Ireland, Portugal Debt."
http://noir.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?N=av&T=Balls%20Says%20Pimco%20to%20Avoid%20Greece%2C%20Ireland%2C%20Portugal%20Debt&clipSRC=mms://media2.bloomberg.com/cache/vbNSOFlrcnxc.asf
My balls say PIMCO is about to become the Mike Bury of the next chapter of this sad saga. "Bill Gross is short our houses, government, employers and retirement plans" T-shirts to be printed shortly.
Shutdown will be averted and the market will rally sharply on the news. I will stop out of my short and move along.
It may be selfish but I really do wish all this crap would end and we hit the reset button. I have running water with out electricity, ample supply of wood and cooking fuel ample supply of food and ammo an agreement with my only two neighbors to help defend the perimeter....lets reset.
You better get a few more neighbors on board quickly.
very very rural.....don't really have any..more maybe about 3/4 mile to a mile down the road.
Do you need anymore neighbors?
My neighbors would cannibalize me if they increased length of the the commercial breaks on American Idol... No American Idol at all? I'll be shooting my way out of zombie apocolypse land. Fortunately, I've played A LOT of Call of Duty.
Lock and load, X-man, Lock and load.
One in the pipe, safety' on.
Any day now, I'm going to send I-told-you-so's to all the friends and family that have called me crazy over the years... I'll probably hand write them on useless fiat.
In all seriousness good luck to you Kurt. I truely enjoy living in a rural area like I do. It is peaceful and we already do a lot of living off the land and we share(I'm the egg and chicken man) one of my neighbors has goats...milk cheese and occasional Monterrey Goat barbeque we all have large vegatable gardens.....but I am sad...sad for so many that are not prepared. Sad to know the truth is so morbid..... it's depressing.
The tail risk is really skewing things right now. There are two days worth of food in New York at any point in time. There are at least annecdotal incidents of cannibalism in every recorded famine in human history. Not to say that is a likely outcome, but it shows how depraved we become in a crisis. The initial reaction to a crisis is community. If the crisis persists it shifts entirely to self-preservation no matter what that requires. The downside risk scenario to any disruption in densely populated areas is not pretty and its getting worse every day.
+1111111111
The funniest post I have read in a while and absolutely fucking true at that. My preferred metaphor is a kindergarten class high on PCP, being told that recess is canceled for today.
I want out.
you guys want to know how petty things are getting inside the beltway?
there are meetings being held right now where staffers will have to be defined as essential or not. If someone is non-essential, they have to turn over things like their keys, their id cards, their blackberry's etc. So all these self-important idiots are now trying to decide if they want to be designated as essential! These meetings are said to be chaotic
Wouldn't it be bitter irony if they started the next revolution because of this?
Well you know what they say, "it's not who you know, but who you'll blow".
long Chapstick!
I am so sad to hear that.
I hope the fuckers starve.
This is truly change we can believe in. It gives me some hope for the future of this great nation, saddled with a not so great governent. Can we make it happen? YES WE CAN!
I hope we can Lloyd!
Obama could not travel all over the World for a week or two.
On vacation. Boo Hoo.
Except for the POMO- it's ALL good!!
Love to see it shut down on April 15th. No one to collect all of those Income Tax Checks.
Assuming anyone is working or makes enough to pay taxes.
And the war in Afghanistan? Is that essential?
And all those aircraft carriers in foreign seas? Will they return to the US harbours, and the crew sent home?
No. They will have to do the job, the military personnel and families will just have to wait to get paid for services rendered.
Woah you're telling me the IRS will close up shop?
SHUT THE WHOLE F***ER DOWN NOW!
A marked Poltical shift could occur just because the Gvt shutdown not because of why.
Especially if the middle class is told that they will be paying for all of the bailouts and lack of Corporate Entitlement Reform.
The GOP is serving up the "high heat" right over the plate (Nolan Ryan style) but the danger is if Obama gets wood on it the result would be a game changer.
FoxNews viewership is the best gauge for middle class voter tendencies - it already looks bad.
All the spin in the world does not fix a short or missing paycheck or the dog and pony show to ensue...
Think of all of the displaced Fireman, Policeman, Teachers and Realtors that have nothing to do now except rail against the GOP all day long...
The cherries will blossom with or without the government, as for the rest - shut it all down.
will gravity work without government?
The cherries will blossom with or without the government, as for the rest - shut it all down.
A shutdown sounds like a grand opprotunity to revive the articles of confederation
What a perfect plan. In the month they get locked out stocks will go up coz QE3 assured and everyone will explain bad data on shutdown. Then when they all come back stole can rally like crazy coz so many jobs were created and the economy is rebounding!
Can't wait for the pitiful shutdown-charade to be ended by a real speech by Mr. Market; Au up $50 some morning, PIIGS bonds bidless, 10 yr and 30 yr yields up 3% to 1 and 2 year highs, market-trigger-closings.
But I've been looking for a speech since 2007 and the partisan credit-crowd-braniacs have created ever-clever ways to quiet him.
Why you all waiting for the government to shut itself down?
You got guns and ammo ain't ya?
Well, get out there use 'em! Heard of being pro-active?
USA = 100% pure pussification.
"*DJ Obama Admin: Military Personnel Would Earn Paychecks, But Not Receive Them Immediately"
Bonus Army anyone ?
Hmmmmmm, that is scary shit.
DJ JAZZY JEFF: Parents just don't understand
How could anyone care whether there's a gummit shutdown or not?
Lots of posters sound excited at the prospect, but this has happened before and not a damn thing ever changed.
Why would anyone think it's different this time?
As FZ once said, "Politics is the entertainment branch of the military-industrial complex."
This is just theatre, and although it may seem more surreal, it remains as irrelevant as ever.
Woot!
Cherry blossoms will open and occur regardless of what the government does!
Shut er down! She's pumping MUD! The revolt is starting. I can feel the electricity in the air.
This may be a fantasy, but what if the House refuses to pass any spending bills in excess of revenues? Everything not funded gets shut down. The worst case is people vote out the Republicans in November 2012. Best case is that by November 2012 people see that the world did not end, that long term rates have declined due to the return of fiscal sanity in Washington, and that the private market has created more jobs than were lost in the government. Since Republicans believe that the best case will occur, what are they waiting for?
And......the downside parts would be?
NOOOOO!
I can't live without all of my "services", for the love of God please don't deprive me of my services.
If the government shuts down then new regulations by the agencies can not be published. If they promised not to ropen the damn thing long enough (2020?) the business community might even consider investing again and creating jobs.
I'm getting this feeling that we're going to have a "terrorist" event in the next couple of days...
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=20110406...
Or confirmation of this.
What about unemployment benefits? Will they still be handed out?
sure. as long as you qualify, you get the check. ask tyler! many of these bennies are paid by the states. with federal green stamps. plus, goobermint employees don't qualify, i don't think.
can you imagine the up-surge in re-electability when prez0 looks right into the teleprompter and says, "No! We've already given them enough! Food stamps only for them! *snap*!" ???
after the election, he can do any fukin thing he wants to, again, of course...
it's good to be king. even if he's only a puppet, he's most useful to the "NWO" here, on the Big Plantation...
Tough questions nobody is asking.
1) If the govt shuts down, can they still award no-bid military contracts so contractors can hire Afghan dancing boys?
2) If we cut military spending, how will we be able to successfully fashion body-part trophies from civilians' mangled bodies in Afghanistan?
3) If we don't continue the War on Drugs, how else are we going to keep our privatized prisons full in order to create shareholder value?
4) If we give the Federal Reserve less control, how will we be able to buoy the international wealth-siphoning banking cartel?
+1111
" There are two days worth of food in New York at any point in time."
there's plenty of food sitting in dumpsters behind the grocery stores. America throws away 40% of it's food.
locally, much of our stuff goes to feed animals, especially 1-3 hog "operations" on small farmettes, and goats, and whatever else works.
i have personally spent more than one evening helping friends separate hostess sno-balls, cup cakes, & the whole damned line from the plastic and packaging and tossing the goodies into the pig pen, while upwind, of course. entire pick-up loads at a time!
those animals were happier than pigs in shit! trust me.
actually,... they were pigs in shit...
Bailout 3.0?
Please shut the government down that way we can stop them wasting a few billion everyday on redundant crap.
SHUT DOWN! YOU FUCKERS!
That's PERFECT! Why didn't we do this 2 1/2 years ago!?
Iffen gubmint be shuttin down, who be gonna whup on allus slaves?
Maybe a gridlock is a good thing as incompetents doing nothing is better than they doing something and making the situation worse.
The increase in debt ceiling will encourage the U.S. to borrow more money from the world which the likes of Geithner and Bernanke will then distribute it to their buddies, the bankers and the rich corporations / individuals.
They would turn around and use the money to gamble in stocks, commodities and currencies resulting in millions of people pushed below the poverty line as they would not be able to afford even the basic necessities of live needed to exist.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article24581.html