More Economic Churn: Challenger Announces "Surge" In Planned Job Cuts As Noisy ADP Private Payroll Beats Expectations

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Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:35 | 767425 unwashedmass
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hey, it allows a major pump o rama until noon, when we all find out that our government handed over three trillion to our favorite people.....

and the irish think they can beat us!!! Hell, most of us here didn't even know we were a rape in progress...

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:37 | 767427 firstdivision
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Not only that, but the MBA report was pretty lousy as well.  I wish I could figure out what has caused futures to pop 15 points since 1 am, but I cannot find one.  Wait maybe this accounts for the "magical" pop

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:43 | 767452 Rick64
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Supposedly good manufacturing numbers in Great Britain at a 16 yr. high, and China reported robust gains in manufacturing.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:47 | 767461 scatterbrains
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that overnight ramp was fed by the massive sale of e-minis at yesturday's close by the bank cartel.. they then bought them back into the globex vacumm lift. On another note.. big down moves in bonds and dollar at the same time. Who was it said keep your eye out for such things..  start of the avalanche ?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:36 | 767429 Dismal Scientist
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Hhhm. 'ADP comes out with its traditionally noisy number that tends to have zero correlation to the upcoming NFP result'.

You sure about that Tyler ?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:37 | 767431 jkruffin
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Today, and other days like today, where the S&P is pumped up in the pre-market to unsustainable levels, are the perfect days to pull a little more of your money out of this scam...before its too late.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:36 | 767432 HelluvaEngineer
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People are just "downsizing" their career.  Example: you used to be a middle management suckup at a marketing firm.  Now you're an up and coming burrito specialist at Chipotle.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:37 | 767433 pat53
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Gotta feel sorry for anyone who shorted into that little dive at the close yesterday. Should rally strong now thru Friday.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:39 | 767441 firstdivision
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Not going to happen as we have hit the top of this trading range.  Now would be a good time to start to get ready to short. 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:40 | 767444 HelluvaEngineer
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Agree totally.  I think we're finally seeing a trend where you short the pops.  I might pick up a piece of VXX around the time POMO ends, or near market close.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:57 | 767479 unwashedmass
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i do individual stocks, not indices...and i have to say, there is NO volume whatsoever in most....the Fed is pumping its little heart out but....

the peasants aren't coming into to take the bag of turds off the banks' hands at this level (why? don't you want AMZN at 180 in a deteriorating market? its a BUYING OPPORTUNITY)....

there is NO volume, i repeat NONE in anything other than the naughty stocks that the peasantry isn't supposed to know about or want to buy -- gold and silver....

somehow, people aren't being quite as dumb as Ben believes in his cold heart that they are.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:37 | 767434 mule65
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Why QE2 with so much good news?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:19 | 767532 Sudden Debt
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to get that kind of news you need expensive propaganda agancies which don't come cheap.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:38 | 767437 TWORIVER
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GOLD trade for the day: Short at 1390 vs 1400 stop. Longs having it their way til now, watch 1365 with a sense of urgency. Have a good one.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:59 | 767485 unwashedmass
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you may be right, but i wouldn't want to be short gold when the 3T news hits at noon...

that could be the tipping point for all confidence in anything.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:02 | 767489 TWORIVER
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Hear ya. This is just a technical trade. The potential H&S is still there unless we see a move over 1400. Yesterday's low of 1365 is paramount for longs.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:11 | 767511 unwashedmass
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the H&S trade is a JPM paint job.....they are dreamin' if they think they are going to be able to engineer another smash and grab now....

word is out about those guys and the manipulation of the gold/silver markets. hell, people ON THE YAHOO BOARDS are talking about it and watching and waiting for the "attacks" ......


Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:28 | 767569 TWORIVER
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It's not a paint job, it is either a top or a consolidation pattern. The volume flows suggest that it is a top.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:39 | 767439 sushi
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Do any of the stats indicate how many Americans grope other peoples junk for a living?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:38 | 767440 wiskeyrunner
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So whay are you not reporting on the Federal Reserve Recipients of 3.3 trillion in tax payers money ????????????????????????????????????  

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:55 | 767476 Tyler Durden
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We are prepared for the noon announcement.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:17 | 767527 wiskeyrunner
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Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:20 | 767534 Precious
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Who would have predicted... Ben Bernanke is doing under order of the courts, what Julian Assange is doing for free. Next thing you know, Bernanke will be wanted by Interpol.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:36 | 767594 Cognitive Dissonance
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No, they aren't doing it under the courts. They are releasing what they want to release. This is a controlled release to control the discussion, questions and answers.

We don't even know how accurate the info is. We are entirely dependent upon a Fed to do as they say they are doing. It would be dumb of us to assume we are getting it all even in the sections they say they are releasing. Period.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:40 | 767446 shushup
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I don't know how anyone can get excited about 93K jobs when 17 million are out of work.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:43 | 767453 HelluvaEngineer
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Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:45 | 767455 Kina
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The economy is bouncing along the sea floor. The seas floor ain't perfectly flat.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:57 | 767480 ziggy59
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what me worry? 1800 new jobs per state  hoo hooo...

up up up...

controlled demolition..take down when they want


Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:21 | 767540 Sudden Debt
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The real question is why the other 17 mil. don't want to work!

Are they lazy?

Should they no longuer profit from the royal food stamp programms?

Answer= Yes, they should all be put into working camps.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:41 | 767450 papaswamp
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Are these full or part time jobs? Are we looking at a surge due to the holidays or are things at the very least bottoming out.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:43 | 767451 Kina
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J6P is going to be stunned when all this crashes in a heap. I was told everything was gettin better, the market soaring...what happened?


We was lying to ya joey. There ain't no pot of gold for you ya see. You were just the pastsy, now skiddadle.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:45 | 767454 MrTrader
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Skynet has decided to squeeze all shorts. Target successfully executed. Today Skynet plans to destroy all longs. You better listen to Skynet. Skynet end.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:48 | 767463 the not so migh...
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Just buy high and sell low,  what could go wrong?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:23 | 767545 Sudden Debt
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Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:51 | 767470 Aductor
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Oh, c'mon. We all know it's going to rally for some arbitrary reason. The Ben Bernank & Co would not like to ruin Christmas, what would happen to the "animal spirit" then? That the US and most of EU is totally insolvent is quite irrelevant.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 11:17 | 767703 Larry Darrell
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The Ben Bernank & Co would not like to ruin Christmas......for all of those wealthy people with stock investments.

There, fixed it for you.

The people rolling off the extended unemployment benefits will feel the opposite effect this year and have a horrible Christmas unless .gov gives another extension.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 09:53 | 767473 John Law Lives
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There is not much value in citing job creation numbers unless the nature of each job is quantified.  If high wage jobs are being replaced with low wage jobs, that is not much reason to celebrate the data.  Furthermore, many of the jobs being created right now might be temporary in nature.  Then again, mindless HFT bots do what they are programmed to do...  THEY PUMP when the pumping is good!

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:05 | 767491 doggis
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this in today from Greg Hunter from USA Watch dog:


With all the attention stories such as WikiLeaks and Irish bailout have gotten the last few days, a bombshell judgment against Bank of America in a New Jersey foreclosure case has been overlooked.  The judgment happened 2 weeks ago in a case involving the home of John T. Kemp.  His original mortgage company was Countrywide, but it was bought a few years back by B of A.   U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Judith Wizmur rejected a claim by Bank of America to foreclose on Kemp’s home.   According to a Bloomberg story yesterday, Bank of America had failed to deliver the note to the trustee. That could leave the trustee with no standing to take the property, and raises the question of whether other foreclosures could similarly be blocked.”   According to one witness, this was a common practice.  The Bloomberg story goes on to say, “Linda DeMartini, a team leader in the company’s mortgage- litigation management division, said during a U.S. Bankruptcy Court hearing in Camden last year that it was routine for the lender to keep mortgage promissory notes even after loans were bundled by the thousands into bonds and sold to investors, according to a transcript. Contracts for such securitizations usually require the documents to be transferred to the trustee for mortgage bondholders.”  (Click here to read the entire Bloomberg story.)

 This is an earth shaking setback, not only for B of A, but for all banks involved in mortgage-backed securities.  The Promissory Note is the actual proof the bank owns the home.  No “note” means no proof of ownership.  You must possess the original Promissory Note for ownership to be valid.   I wrote about this enormous mortgage mess in an October post called “The 6 Trillion Dollar Problem.” I said, “The lack of the Promissory Note is the biggest of all the problems in this chain of chicanery.  Here’s why.  A Promissory Note is a financial instrument.  It is in the same family as a Federal Reserve Note.  For example, if you copied a $100 bill and then tried to spend that copy in a store, because you lost the original, is it still money?–Of course not.  You need the original financial instrument (in this case a $100 Federal Reserve Note) to make a legal transaction in a store.  The same is true for a Promissory Note. You need the original note to legally complete a foreclosure.  A counterfeit or copy of a Promissory Note is not a financial instrument, just like a counterfeit or copy of a $100 bill is not a financial instrument!”

No Promissory Note means banks like B of A sold un-backed securities instead of mortgage-backed securities.  This is not a simple case of sloppy paperwork as the mainstream media would like you to believe.   The evidence suggests it is layer upon layer of widespread criminal activity.  Here’s the way I explained it in a post called “The Perfect No-Prosecution Crime.”  In October, I wrote,There was “rampant” mortgage fraud in the loan application process according to the FBI as far back as 2004.  (Click here to see one of many stories of the FBI warning of mortgage fraud.)  There was real estate document malfeasance when the original Promissory Notes and loan documents were “lost.”   The Promissory Notes were required to create tens of thousands of mortgage-backed securities (MBS).  No “note,” no security.  No security means the special IRS tax status for the MBS were improperly obtained.  Because there were no documents, the rating agencies fraudulently made up triple “A” ratings for the securities.  When the whole mess blew up, big banks hired foreclosure mill law firms to create forged documents.  That phony paperwork was and is being used to wrongfully remove homeowners from their property.  That is foreclosure fraud.” 

Mortgage-backed securities have to meet what is called “contractual representation and warranties.”  That basically means the MBS are required to be free of fraud and be exactly what the seller says they are.  Do you think mortgage-backed securities are free of fraud?  Do you think these securities are the triple-A rated risk free investment the big Wall Street banks claim?—NO WAY!  The banks are going to be forced to buy back all the toxic mortgage junk they sold. 

 That is the least they can do because, so far, there has not been a single prosecution of a high ranking mortgage lender or Wall Street banker.  That is outrageous because this will surely go down as the biggest financial white-collar crime rip-off in history.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:14 | 767520 Cognitive Dissonance
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Judging by the futures response, this is good.

Futures were being moved up nearly from the close yesterday. This is and was a managed move higher. Futures no longer have anything to do with "news" or "events" and everything to do with a manipulated market.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:24 | 767549 Sudden Debt
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it only takes less then 1 minute to go from +1% to -1%

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:18 | 767530 Precious
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Who would have predicted... Ben Bernanke is doing under order of the courts, what Julian Assange is doing for free. Next thing you know, Bernanke will be wanted by Interpol.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 11:07 | 767679 ElvisDog
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A statistic I would like to see released is the total income of people working in the private sector excluding government transfer payments. Like the earlier post said, releasing only the net change in jobs doesn't indicate whether the quality of jobs is decreasing.

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