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More Fed Dissent Theater: Fed's Fisher Joins Lacker In "Just Saying No"

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The "good money printer - bad money printer" routine is starting to get old. Dallas Fed's Fisher joins Richmond's (non-voting) Lacker in saying no more QE. Earlier today the Dallas Fed president was heard saying anathema things like: "Very eary of further expansion of Fed's Balance Sheet", "Fed is Pushing the Envelope with Asset Purchases" and concludes that we would "probably" dissent in any vote for further QE. Um, great. You have vote Dick, use it. Same goes for Plosser and all the other wannabe Hoenigs. Oh yeah, also while you are at it, please explain just who will be buying the $4 trillion in debt to be issued in the next two years (ref: $32 Billion 3 Year Auction Prices At 1.349% As Foreign Bid Plunges And Fed Indirectly Pockets 62% Of Issue).

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Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:04 | 943586 Hephasteus
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Needs moar cowbell. One of them should probably shoot tim geihtner for street cred.

Feds Fischer "There has been a rush back into the dollar"

Did he really say that. That has to be shooped.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:12 | 943652 whatsinaname
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But Lockhart just said inflation is too low (for them to be COMFORTABLE)!!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Feds-Lockhart-says-inflation-rb-134340509.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=4&asset=&ccode=

Who do you believe ?

Even folks commenting on yahoo finance are skeptical....

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:22 | 943705 SheepDog-One
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The FED wont see ANY inflation until gas is over $8 and a bowl of broth costs $50.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:13 | 943659 willien1derland
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LMFAO - Needs More CowBell! +1,000 TD please propose a new COWBELL DERIVATIVE - Jamie Dimon will DEFINITELY buy it OR Goldman Sachs can offer it under the brand name 'TIMBERBELL' -  that is one sh*tty BELL!

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 01:43 | 945592 StychoKiller
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As Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin) stated today on CNBS, Fiscal policy (is there any, other than spending even more FRNs?) is on a collision course with Monetary policy (is there any, other than "printing" even more FRNs?)

Somehow, we're all supposed to believe that the Federal Governors have any other choice, besides monetizing the debt -- guess I'm gonna have to "contribute" to economic growth by buying a 12Ga Mossberg...

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 14:57 | 943591 unwashedmass
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they have now inflated the russell to where it was prior to the crisis. some stocks are now hitting all time highs....

what Ben doesn't seem to grasp is that he has literally set the table for the banks now to rob the populace deaf dumb and blind as this house of cards collapses.

terrifying. when is someone gonna stop this guy?

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:05 | 943623 jus_lite_reading
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Surreal... grab your pitchforks boyz. TSHTF now!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:08 | 943634 MarketTruth
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When will they be stopped? Never.

"Give me control over a nations currency, and I care not who makes its laws" -- Baron M.A. Rothschild, same guy who helped create the central banking system used today.

"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:23 | 943704 william the bastard
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 "I would be very wary of expanding our balance sheet further; indeed, given current economic and financial conditions." -Richard Fisher February 8, 2011

http://dallasfed.org/news/speeches/fisher/2011/fs110208.cfm

 

QE is over. The fat lady is warming up.

 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 17:36 | 944224 SWRichmond
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Just trying to jawbone down the inflationary scare and start a run out of commodities.  Pay no attention to the men in suits who say shit they don't mean because if they didn't they'd lose their pathetic jobs as central bankers.

Central bank employees: get fucking real jobs.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 17:57 | 944328 taraxias
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Post of the day. Well done, sir.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 14:58 | 943593 system failure
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Hell, if they are confused and dont know what they are doing and what they are creating, what the hell do they think we are doing besides watching us approach a brick wall at 1500 feet per second. BAM!!! 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:20 | 943684 hbjork1
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WOW!  1,500 ft/sec.  Thats a little over 1,000 miles per hour.  At that rate, faster than the speed of sound, we will hit the wall before anyone hears about it.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:01 | 943607 thepigman
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El-Erian says Ben's inflating the whole

world in fear of Depression. Makes me

feel so much better.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:04 | 943620 thepigman
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Which says it's really a Depression

with inflated asset prices. GTFO

(get the fuck out)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:12 | 943646 SheepDog-One
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'Depression with highly inflated prices'...ZACTLY! Hell its a ruined country with no real economy to speak of other than printing more fiat.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:17 | 943677 ZakuKommander
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Are you kidding?  There's even a patch you can wear to show pride in our economic bulwarks:

http://www.itstactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/GunsAndCoffeePatch...

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:19 | 943691 SheepDog-One
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Wow thats pretty nice looking, think I'll order one on my Chase card, then cut up the bill.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:23 | 943715 ZakuKommander
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A nice "tacticool" addition to liven up one's plate carrier.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:15 | 943663 willien1derland
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+1 - What would Jennie Craig Do?

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 17:38 | 944232 SWRichmond
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Not when you measure asset prices in real money (gold).  The buying power of gold continues to rise, just as is expected in a deflation.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:03 | 943614 jus_lite_reading
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HOLY MOSES!!!

Fed's Lockhart says underlying inflation currently below level he defines as price stability

 

WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY SMOKING?

Lord come now!

>>"The only activity they do is pacify the majority of the population using false statistics and promises of a better future so that they do not lynch them and their masters while they are robbing the taxpayers."<<

 

 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:22 | 943682 SheepDog-One
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They wont be happy till gas is at $8 and it takes $100 to buy stuff for Hamburger Helper dinner at the store!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:07 | 943617 d00daa
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Theater of the absurd.

The Bernankenstein will never stop.

ZIRP/QE4EVA.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:09 | 943636 bob_dabolina
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This is just a dog-n-pony show.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:09 | 943637 Gubbmint Cheese
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going cold turkey on the QE pipe.. good luck with that.

lol

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:13 | 943658 SheepDog-One
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Hey at some point, that HAS to happen! The 'QE to infinity' line is nonsense, theyre at the point where any more dollars means other thinks like bonds and PM's blow up, and these FED dissenters know it damn well!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:23 | 943713 thepigman
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It's a closed loop bankster market now as opposed to the old free market. After the banksters have wreaked enough havoc on treasury prices, the Bernank will instruct them to take their profits on stocks and commodities and skeedadle back into busted treasuries. And the
inflation they created will then magically disappear. That Bernank, he's a wizard.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:27 | 943733 SheepDog-One
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I still dont see who it is they expect to sell millions of bubble stocks to when the 'signal is given'...the only point to a pump is the dump and that works great for 5% swings but this is a near 50% rise, 30% of it just since a few months ago and WHO do they have out there to sell to? Mom n pop will swoop in and grab all the shares off the bankers hands at market? I dont see it!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:32 | 943756 thepigman
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lol, that's probably the thing bernank

did not think about since he's an

ivory tower academic rather than a

trader.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:27 | 943734 thepigman
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Get some popcorn, sit back, and see how far

they can manipulate everything before

one thing or another implodes.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:28 | 943741 SheepDog-One
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Thats certainly what Im doing, trading fiatsco's for ingots, and ammunition...other than that Im sitting back watching this clownshow.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:09 | 943639 MolotovCockhead
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There's no turning back! At this point in time, it's no longer possible to say no to the QE's infinitum.

The moment the Qe's stop, the whole Ponzi scheme will collapse upon itself. Whichever way you look at it, America is screwed and the rest of the world will have no choice but to share the suffering for a long time to come.

Worry that politicians may use war to divert attention.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:12 | 943649 unwashedmass
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me too.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:10 | 943641 spartan117
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I call BS on all of them.  The USD was about to roll over and die when they came out with their stance on QE. 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:14 | 943662 SheepDog-One
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Maybe, but look at gold and silver. This clown party is over.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 18:11 | 944383 taraxias
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Shirley, give that man a cigar.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:12 | 943647 gwar5
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Mecca FRBNY matters most, methinks.

Benocide is past the point of no return.

Market crashes if QE 2 not followed through, or QE 3 is off table?

Seems we're at a tipping point for something.

Sell market short?

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:30 | 943667 SheepDog-One
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Go ahead, I'd actually LIKE to see Chairsatan go for another QE round! There goes the 10yr to 4.5, silver to 50 and gold to 1600 minimum! Not to mention food riots around the world that makes todays look like nothing when those commodities shoot to the moon. Go ahead Ben Shalom Chairsatan, whatever!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:14 | 943661 youngman
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What would the rate have been to day on the three year bills if the Fed and its 60% purchase/share was taken out...me thinks it would be much higher....like 5%....if they could sell it at all....oh oh...that means some pretty good inflation...and a market crash....they can´t stop...they can only be stopped...

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:41 | 943792 thepigman
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Bonds are blowing right through support

again.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:44 | 943805 thepigman
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Crushed, actually. Good one, Ben.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:18 | 943681 william the bastard
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OT check this horror story:

The rise and fall of a foreclosure king

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/06/AR2011020601899.html

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:35 | 943767 buzzsaw99
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Wasn't benocide telling everyone just the other day to keep the party line consistent? Why have Fisher and Lacker gone off the reservation?

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:59 | 943865 AccreditedEYE
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Buzzy, just that it's mentioned in public shows us something is up. Perhaps they learned that they can't have their cake and eat it too. (Low rates + higher equities) Time to make a choice Uncle Ben!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:35 | 943771 Racer
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: Fed's Lockhart says Egyptian events a risk, would affect US economically if there was a spike in oil prices

 

In case he hasn't noticed cos he doesn't fill his car up... the price of oil has gone up a LOT and especially in other countries!

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:49 | 943827 thepigman
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Treasuries obliterated again.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:55 | 943845 thepigman
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Hope no one wants a loan while

jackass Ben inflates the world during

the Depression.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 18:35 | 944454 SheepDog-One
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Ben Shalom's Treasury support program not goin so well! 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 15:55 | 943846 oogs66
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Doesn't look like the PD's want to hold this pig until it can be POMO'd.  Its trading at 1.41 now.  Up 5 bps from when it was priced.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:14 | 943914 viahj
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i think that they ae out of options and see the handwriting on the wall and are just trying to get out front of a deteriorating publice opinion

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:16 | 943924 Captain Willard
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"Oh yeah, also while you are at it, please explain just who will be buying the $4 trillion in debt to be issued in the next two years (ref: $32 Billion 3 Year Auction Prices At 1.349% As Foreign Bid Plunges And Fed Indirectly Pockets 62% Of Issue)."

Tyler nails it again. Precisely to whom will the Treasury sell all this debt?

All this FOMC (open-mouth committee) bluster is just theater. They have no choice.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:37 | 943981 SheepDog-One
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Who will they sell it to? Apparently none of the ivory tower academics thought of that. Pumping it up is fairly easy...now what?

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:35 | 943975 flaunt
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What a bunch of asshats.  They already let QE3 slip with "loose lips Hoenig" and now they're trying to backpeddle to give themselves some breathing room.  Too late.  Now if you pull it the markets are going to tank and your false recovery will be laid bare for all to see. 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 17:02 | 944083 MolotovCockhead
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"just trying to get out front of a deteriorating publice opinion"

 

Since when did TPTB care about public opinion?

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 17:38 | 944230 onarga74
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It's not a market.  I can't take the short side of apple cause when it starts to roll over Ben stops it.  I'm pissed.  Be great to be an analyst though.  Throw out any number you want and Bennie will have your back.  Volume is horrid. Insider sales, manufactured employment #'s, and granny selling the last of her muni's and going long Netflix.  This is like having a fruit and veggie market where you can raise your prices every day and people don't care and keep buying. This is freakin wrong. 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 17:57 | 944324 andyupnorth
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“We need to get a handle on deficit spending but we can't do it right now.” It's a way to project an image of responsibility while at the same time allowing them to continue to act irresponsibly.

Mishkin will always be my idol:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/watch-former-fed-governor-fred-napoleon...

 

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 18:06 | 944367 Hedge Hunter
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But QE is BENificial to us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (not)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 18:13 | 944388 bernorange
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Jim Rickards: It’s propaganda. I had a discussion with former Fed governor, no reason to mention the name, who is a very well known economist, and what he said was that behind closed doors the Federal Open Market Committee spends about 10% of their time on policy and 90% of their time on communication. They very quickly arrive at what they’re going to do and then spend the vast majority of their time thinking about messaging and wordsmithing. Well, there’s a name for that. It’s called propaganda.

 

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1296849600.php

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 18:34 | 944452 SheepDog-One
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Its really called a bunch of ass hats who have now pumped in about $30 trillion to banks which cant lend, and a stock and bond buying spree, and now have no way out.

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 20:43 | 944799 Zero Govt
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pressure is rising on Benocide... he's not quite under the thumb yet but when he is it'll be a quick chop and off with his beard... then we can look forward to the autobiography, how he 'saved the world' not blow torched it with counterfeit money (usual public sector delusional BS)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:11 | 944847 nmewn
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