Mort Zuckerman Is Back, Blasting American Socialism; Or How America’s Public Servants Are Now Its Masters

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Fri, 09/10/2010 - 13:19 | 574381 VK
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Socialism bitchez!

EDIT: American socialism = farcism. 

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 13:35 | 574444 SAJ
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"In a mature society, 'civil servant' is semantically equivalent to 'civil master'."


-- Robert A. Heinlein

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 13:53 | 574489 pan-the-ist
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You speak like there is something wrong with that assessment?  The "state" is greater than you.  Deal with it.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 13:58 | 574517 PeterSchump
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Fuck You.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:07 | 574730 spekulatn
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Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:08 | 574732 candyman
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strongly agree

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:49 | 574832 Votewithabullet
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...with the statist or the potty mouth? Pick a side nigga. I got a friend in humboldt and its getting close to harvest time.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 16:20 | 574927 spekulatn
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I'm with the potty mouth.

Fuck tha statist.


Harvest time in Humboldt is heavenly man.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 19:08 | 575221 Votewithabullet
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I think the statist was being a little too subtle for 24 little bitchez. Whoa man u typed in @ 4:20 brother.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 19:46 | 575270 Hephasteus
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15:20 is 3:20. No whoa.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 20:58 | 575350 Votewithabullet
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Who squeezed your head? I was speaking to the speculator who posted at 16:20 das idiot.You gotta suck the fun outta everything?

Wed, 09/22/2010 - 06:32 | 596715 Hephasteus
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Nobody posted at 16:20 you dumb fucking pot head. I'm not sucking the fun out of everything just pointing how you stupid pot heads are always so woa and that's deep and that's major and you're FUCKING WRONG about all the shit that is woa and deep and major.

So ya that sucks the fun out of using drugs that make you think your in the deep end of the pool when you are really standing in you own piss.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 21:31 | 575377 Kayman
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So called public servants are free riders one and all.  They pay no taxes whatsoever; they only recycle the taxes paid by the private sector.

Does anyone have a number about how many private sector employees have to work to pay the total cost of one government employee (on average) ??

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 16:16 | 574918 SamuelMaverick
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Fri, 09/10/2010 - 14:23 | 574612 cougar_w
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The State does not exist without the consent of the governed.

Deal with that.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 14:38 | 574665 sunny
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Bullshit.  70% of the citizens did not want TARP, we got TARP.  Approximately the same number did not want big 3 car bailouts, we got those bailouts.  How many of the crooks responsible for the collapse of the financial system are in jail?

The State seems to be doing a pretty good job of ignoring the wishes of the governed and getting away with it.

Deal with it.


Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:13 | 574745 spekulatn
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Deal with it.


"...I got a friend in Mendocino 

And it’s gettin’ close to harvest time..."

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:24 | 574772 SheepDog-One
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Until the people say no and revolt, then youll have to deal with that, which I doubt you can.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:26 | 574783 Caviar Emptor
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Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:38 | 574805 Henry Chinaski
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70% of the citizens did not want TARP, we got TARP.  Approximately the same number did not want big 3 car bailouts, we got those bailouts.

And the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (Bailout Bill) ...and healthcare reform. Immgration reform.  Cap and trade.

It's minority rule.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 18:15 | 575144 AugmentedFourth
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That's besides the point!

Minority rule, majority rule...tyranny and fascism are NOT qualified by how many people support it.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:51 | 574840 Ripped Chunk
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Can America Recover When The Majority Of Americans See A Double Dip, And Think The Country Is Fundamentally Broken?

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Fri, 09/10/2010 - 20:43 | 575338 pan-the-ist
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I'm with all of you who say it all is fundamentally broken.  We need firemen and the police and other civil servants.  There are many others we can do without.

We also need a police force that can actually battle white collar crime.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 16:53 | 575012 hbjork1
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Enemies In the long run - yes, the state does not exist without the consent of the governed.  But historians Will and Ariel Durant said in "Lessons of History" (Loose quotation) that governments have tended to oscillate between the conservative and the liberal.  The most conservative would be the individual dictator, strongman or warlord.  Liberal would be true democracy. 

IMO, the reason probably that when the people have true democracy, the people start wanting more than the existing technology/environmental/population density combination will support.  

Thus far, we listen and respond to the media we want, we vote for the people who represent us, thus far, we are free to make decisions about how we live our lives.

And lament the loss of things as they were is somewhat misplaced.  WWII required rigid personal disciplines and sometimes draconian sacrifices to survive against foreign enemies.  The so called "Baby Boomer" generation rebelled against disciplines that they considered artificial.  That was natural because we all assume early in life that the world we come into is simply what is, not aware of the giants upon whose shoulders we stand.  

The best (and only viable?) way we can improve the situation is through our influence on the proceedings in DC.

I know my representatives in Congress and my Representative knows me personally.  I communicated on the Dodd-Frank bill and learned that, in the house at least, work on additional legislatiion to close some of the loopholes is proceeding.  Nobody likes it. 



Fri, 09/10/2010 - 22:50 | 575458 RockyRacoon
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Well, if nobody likes it why the hell do we have it?  That's the root of the problem.

Stuff gets done like that whether we (people) want it or not.  Fixing it after the fact is not a solution.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:45 | 574829 SpykerSpeed
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The State is just a concept, it doesn't exist in reality.  We feel the effects of the popular belief, however.  We go along with it, pay our taxes, etc. because to acknowledge that we are regularly being robbed and threatened is far too depressing for our minds to handle.  We are just livestock for the elite, so we've created this myth that they exist to protect us.

Sat, 09/11/2010 - 13:00 | 575725 Bob Sponge
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Agree. It is probably too scary for Joe Six-Pack to accept that TPTB do not care about him. I think TD has it right that the only us vs. them is the American people vs. the corrupt elite. I think that Americans in the private sector have been RAPED more than in the public sector so far and that does not make the public sector vastly overpaid. I think the private sector is underpaid, not the public sector overpaid.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:50 | 574835 Ripped Chunk
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Pan, blow yourself

Sun, 09/12/2010 - 01:00 | 576528 RichyRoo
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Is that like how if someone dies from a bacterial infection bacteria are greater than human?

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 14:02 | 574516 maddy10
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Propaganda for collective selective amnesia!

I don't think all the bankers makng an avg 300,000 complained when top 20 PRIVATE banks were donated a trillion dollars; to make millions in bonuses for the depression?

 Banks still get money for 0% and levering it at 20 times in Srilanka,Indonesia and what not!!!!!!!

To make money you give money or get votes,huh?

Ahhhh I am through this stuff 


Fri, 09/10/2010 - 19:13 | 575229 masterinchancery
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Good quote--what's the reference?

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 20:58 | 575349 Lazarus Long
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Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:38 | 574806 Cathartes Aura
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subtle, and worthy of recognition.


Fri, 09/10/2010 - 22:16 | 575409 THE 4th Quadrant
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Exactly, I wish some of the people here would wake up.

Too, the "most vocal Obama critic, Mort Zuckerman".

Another major American media mogul who is an outspoken vocal critic of Obama? Hummmmmmm. Who owns banking and media in the USofA? Wake up Americans...

Atlantic Monthly? He should have bought The Observer, he would have been so proud that he would "plead guilty" to anything.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 23:20 | 575473 TreadwCare
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Sounds to these simpleton ears he is talking his book . . .

Fri, 09/24/2010 - 21:31 | 603863 CrackSmokeRepublican
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Mortimer Zuckerman is an idiot Zionist Talmudic Jewtard that deserves to be kicked out of America for being a traitor.

Like most Jews at Z.H. that follow the Protocols of the Elders of Zion...  there is a Leather Jack Boot coming for your lying asses...

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 13:15 | 574382 SheepDog-One
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If only Zuckerman had his brain in gear back when he was putting Obongo the fraud into office!

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 13:55 | 574502 NOTW777
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Fri, 09/10/2010 - 14:39 | 574667 Henry Chinaski
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Billy Ray Valentine goes to the White House.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 13:15 | 574387 midtowng
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"new public sector elite"? What a crock.

This is just the real elite trying to divide the working class against one another. It used to be blacks against whites, and citizens against immigrants. Now its public against private.

Anything but rich against poor, because that might interfere with their theft of the public wealth.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 13:18 | 574396 SheepDog-One
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Zuckerman is a Zionist, one of the chiefs of the tribe, all this rambling is just more divide and conquer and divert attention from the controlling elite, no doubt about it. 

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 14:51 | 574697 tmosley
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You two work in the public sector, don't you?

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:25 | 574776 SheepDog-One
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Yea we have real jobs.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 15:43 | 574822 spekulatn
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Capitol Hill employees owed $9.3 million in back taxes last year, data show

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 13:23 | 574412 Hunch Trader
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Consider the civil servants an appointed buffer zone.


Fri, 09/10/2010 - 14:02 | 574526 cougar_w
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Most of them come from industry or higher ed, so they know the score; after a stint in public service, they retire with full pension+benefits and go back to their real job destroying the planet or corrupting minds.

What a racket. It is all for fail.

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 14:06 | 574538 hedgeless_horseman
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Maybe Mort wants to be appointed the public-employee-benefit czar?

Fri, 09/10/2010 - 14:12 | 574561 cougar_w
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Maybe? He's sent them his resume only 4 times in the last month. He calls twice a day.

His main qualification is that he really really really likes fondling public money. Really.

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