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Must See: TEPCO Releases Video From Unmanned Helicopter Drones Above Fukushima As Robots Are Finally Used In Restoration Effort

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On Friday, April 15, TEPCO released what is the most conclusive video of the devastation at Fukushima. After watching these three clips we fail to see how even the most optimistic of individuals see the situation as resolving with anything but entombment, which however judging by the urgency in Japan's actions will be the first even on the agenda...in 2015. In other Fukushima news, we learn that after declining for a few days, the seawater around the reactor has once again seen a surge in radioactivity (Kyodo), that fuel rods have melted through not one, not two, but all three active reactors at Fukushima, but not to panic: all is well as long as these are cooled down, by the same water that will eventually seep into the ocean of into the groundwater considering the cooling system is destroyed beyond repair (Japan Times), that TEPCO itself, following weeks of denials, will not only be nationalized but most likely bankrupted eventually as a push to complete the liberalization of Japan's power industry (Asahi), but this won't happen before TEPCO drags down the Nikkei: Reuters reports that as part of funding its reconstruction efforts, the virtually insolvent utility will be forced to liquidate up to its entire stake ($2.2 billion) in telecom giant KDDI, potentially setting off a selling waterfall across various asset classes. Elsewhere, now that Japan will have no choice but to contend with rolling blackouts indefinitely, the country's energy needs will be increasingly reliant on Russia's goodwill, which now is the white knight "energetic" protector of not only Europe, but Japan (Yomiuri). Lastly, also from Yomiuri is this brief summary of just how majorly impacted Q2 GDP will be (read inventory liquidations following supply chain disruptions) following the Japan earthquake.

And exactly a month after we asked why on earth is Fukushima not "crawling with iRobots armed with cameras", the powers that be finally enacted this most glaringly obvious fix to prevent the gratuitous waste of human life.

Source: Martyn Williams

 

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Sun, 04/17/2011 - 11:12 | 1177742 Mongo
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Buy The Fukushima Dip!

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 11:37 | 1177783 the mad hatter
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horyy shiit!

and i thought that the US was in a clusterfuck.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:16 | 1177956 cossack55
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It is.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 08:06 | 1179615 Harlequin001
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Bullish... definately.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:55 | 1178072 goldfish1
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crusterfuck

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:42 | 1178760 TerraHertz
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So many lives gone.

Violent opening act.

Rad's eternal dirge.

 

Carve on those ruins

Here lies Industrial Man,

Where Fission killed Pride.

 

Tsunami today,

Meteor strike tomorrow.

Now do you see why?

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 06:36 | 1179478 Popo
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It's the same sh*t in both places.  I don't see anyone in Japan going to jail for massively overstating security, or endangering the nation.

Back in the day there would be dozens of noble acts of seppuku.  

Today?  Well, we had at least one CEO cry... and the media offered up some soft platitudes to make him feel better.   Poor widdle failed CEO, dealing with all that stwess.   

Not only is management still alive.   And not only is managment not imprisoned.  And not only is management not under arrest, legal scrutiny or being subject to daily public humiliation:   They still have their jobs.   Because in Japan, firing someone is "like... a really big deal".

No one is afraid.  Like the banking collapse, Fukushima will happen again before you know it.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:24 | 1178494 Motorhead
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What a crying shame for the Japanese.  Funny how but a few weeks ago some shills were on Jim Puplava's show at www.financialsense.com basically saying how Fukushima was, paraphrasing, "nothing to worry about" and "oh, this isn't the same as Chernobyl by a long shot".

Sushi, anyone?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 11:17 | 1177750 George the baby...
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"Can we just get the electricity hooked up, we'll be right to go"?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:32 | 1178514 dark pools of soros
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did they keep the receipt on that power cord???

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 11:24 | 1177758 Bubbles...bubbl...
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OK...so what's next? How are they going to stop that freaking SMOKE that is still coming out one month after the earthquake?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:20 | 1177962 cossack55
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Breaking:

TEPCO says can fix in 6-9 months. Whew! That was close.

http://enenews.com/

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:21 | 1178188 Whoa Dammit
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Meanwhile, Hitachi says it will take at least 10 years for the spent fuel rods to be cooled down enough to be put into casks and removed from the site.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 15:54 | 1178378 chubbar
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But just think of all the face they saved by not coming forward earlier and embarrassing themselves by admitting things were out of control. That has to be worth something!

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:37 | 1178517 dark pools of soros
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they can always go back and do a last quarter recalc later

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 22:21 | 1178526 dark pools of soros
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dup

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:12 | 1178484 dearth vader
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Which means the radiation spill will continue for that period, at the least.

And, as they still have problems targeting the floating point correctly, I guess it will be for 9 years.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 23:15 | 1179082 MSimon
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69 months.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 11:24 | 1177760 401DK
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Concerning monitoring data from UC Berkeley Dept of Nuclear Engineering. Note especially the rising Cesium concentrations. While technically below EPA maximums, the trend is clear and releases continue:

http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2174

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:46 | 1178531 UncleFurker
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"Please note that though all I-131 activities have increased due to this revision, the levels are still very low -- one would have to consume at least 1,900 liters of milk to receive the same radiation dose as a cross-country airplane trip."

Isn't that an apples vs oranges comparison?

If you fly at high altitude, you get a dose of gamma rays. All done.

If you drink the milk, you have radioactive particles lodged inside your body, emitting radiation until they're all out of radiation to emit?


Sun, 04/17/2011 - 20:56 | 1178874 moneymutt
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good point, I wonder what nuke experts have to say about that

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 23:17 | 1179084 MSimon
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I think the man has a point. I can't quantify it.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 17:25 | 1181870 401DK
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Yes, they are called internal emitters (injested or inhaled radionuclides). The danger lies in the reverse square law. This is usually referred to as why distance makes the danger exponentially less. The reverse is unfortunately true as well (ie intracellular radiation is mighty close to your DNA). Let alone the Cs-137 has a 30 y half life (although it si reportedly purged from the body earlier than that). Levels clearly rising in each successive sample of Bay Area organic milk in the UCB data series.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 11:28 | 1177769 401DK
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Sorry. Above link was for Cesium data in milk. The UCB site has other food and water radioisotope levels for those so inclined to research. Another great site to keep track of events despite minimal MSM coverage is:

http://enenews.com/

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 11:58 | 1177814 TJWP
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I love how the sell side came out talking about the great buying opportunities in Japan following this earthquake. Now you are stuck with a radioactive pile of shit, not unlike the people who bought MBS. Irony!

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 11:59 | 1177817 lynnybee
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wow ! ...... love this posting !   thank you, Tyler, for the great embedded YOUTUBE clips .

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:05 | 1177823 ZackAttack
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But Karl tells us it's all under control, we're in the denouement of cleanup now. Who are we to question one of the world's great authorities on practically any subject matter?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:07 | 1178137 Nobody special
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The day Karl was deserving of attention has long past.  He's a shill.

 

Karl was one of the first to say the BP disaster was overplayed, yet here we are nearly a year later with the site closed to scientists, research being 'influenced', and medical outcomes being suppressed.  A quick YouTube search about the plight of those near the gulf is heartbreaking.  This thing didn't end because media got a new story.  Just wait until hurricane season this year.  It'll be back in full force.

Karl claims Fukushima is over, while TEPCO states the release of radiation could exceed the amount released in Chernobyl (a bold reality, when you consider their current claim that they've only reached 10% now).  If we're only at an admitted 10% of what TEPCO says could still happen, how can this be the 'cleanup stage?'  That's preposterous.

 

I'm embarrassed to have ever given Karl any amount of my attention.  He becomes the 'instant expert' when MSM needs an alternate outlet.  He spouts enough to secure the downward trajectory (which drives the One World Government goals) and downplays that which would challenge conspiracy plans.  Either he's been bought, or he's always been a shill.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 15:02 | 1178276 Banjo
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Nobody special: I agree and have a unique disdain for Denninger. One of my main gripes is his Soviet style censorship of subject area he personally does not approve of. E.g. Gold and precious metals investing as an example.

Im certain to him the conversation feels great but it's just ends up being a convention of the like minded.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:46 | 1178771 cxl9
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And what's up with him using the blog as a vehicle for his crusade against the local public school board? The guy's a jerk-off. Just pull your kid out and put her in private school and quit wasting everyone else's time!

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 22:47 | 1179047 hannah
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i dont know if he is an shill or has ADD but he thinks our gov is a crock yet quotes tepco's temp numbers as gospel ...? if you challenge him, he just bans you but all you need to do is start a new i.d. (and he is an IT expert?).

karl trys to be 'alternative' enough to get on tv as the 'normal' blogger....15 minutes of fame and all.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:09 | 1177828 High Plains Drifter
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http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2011/04/morgan-stanley-default...

morgan stanley defaults on tokyo real estate loan and hits the bricks..its called radioactive jingle mail..... ......

hey douchinger , since you think everything is ok in japan, why not go there and prove it to us.......por favor?????

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 20:09 | 1178808 Hephasteus
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Reuters routes to every goddamn thing on the planet. I won't even temporarily allow that story.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:10 | 1178482 bob_dabolina
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When the bankers are gone, it's time to move on

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:12 | 1177834 redpill
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The date stamp on that one video is 3-18.  Is the lag time on Tepco information releases now up to almost a month?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:16 | 1177957 Lord Welligton
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"On Friday, April 15, TEPCO released what is the most conclusive video of the devastation at Fukushima."

Indeed.

So who took the decision to withhold the video?

Surely not just TEPCO.

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:45 | 1178770 StychoKiller
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Perhaps it took longer than expected to edit out all the frames with bright blue flashes in them...

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:11 | 1177837 High Plains Drifter
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http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=127294

japanese will move the capital soon because of earthquake worries. oh really. i don't suppose any radioactivity has anything to do with this move does it?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:16 | 1177840 Jim in MN
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Two other big picture notes, easy to search out the links:  Kan's government is increasingly likely to fall because of this, and the Germans have re-adopted their old total nuclear phaseout policy again.  For now.

Watch the fate of Fukushima City and how the air deposition around Tokyo grows for the broader immediate impact.  Water into the ocean is the stopgap.  It should take up most of the cesium and strontium; we'll see.

This black swan has ripples....

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:18 | 1177845 High Plains Drifter
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yes the germans have said it is finished.  a while ago a large crowd gathered in the black forest in the middle of the night. it was cold and raining. they stood on rail road tracks. a train came. it slowed down and stopped. its cargo was radioactive waste. the people refused to budge. they sent in the police. they police could not make them move. the train shipment was halted and it was sent back. a small victory for humanity perhaps. how nice it must be to be a people all pulling and acting as one with a purpose.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:03 | 1178106 A Man without Q...
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As I understand it, the shipment eventually got through, via a different route, but I can tell you, the protests scared the hell out of the government.  The anti-nuclear group literally wore out the 17,000 police sent to bring them to order, partly because they did not violently resist, but rather sat, moved, sat again, chained themselves, kept the police chasing after them for days.  The police eventually pulled back when they could not bring in any more to help.  I suspect part of the problem was the popularity of the greens means this is not some lunatic fringe and that they couldn't start bashing in hippies or this would undermine the spirit of modern Germany.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,6198103,00.html

There's a lot of discussion in Germany as to why people are so willing to challenge authority and to protest about things, even if in far off lands, when the compliant Japanese just do what they are told.  Some people dismiss is as German "angst", but I see it as a mark of a modern civilized nation.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:08 | 1178140 Devore
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It was sent back to where?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 20:31 | 1178841 RichardP
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Material was from France, to be stored in northern Germany.  So says the link given in the post above.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:24 | 1177971 cossack55
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I understand the ocean can "take up" the bad stuff. However, where will the ocean "deposit it" that has me worried. Hopefully, 50/50 GS and JPM.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:53 | 1178250 goldfish1
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Sure, sure, just dump it in the ocean. Per the mouthpiece of sauron: Radioactivity up in seawater near Japan nuke plant Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/16/MN7S1J24DM.DTL#ixzz1Jo8qKEgN

the government said Saturday that radioactivity in the seawater has risen again in recent days. The level of radioactive iodine-131 spiked to 6,500 times the legal limit, according to samples taken Friday, up from 1,100 times the limit in samples taken the day before. Levels of cesium-134 and cesium-137 rose nearly fourfold.

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:14 | 1177842 High Plains Drifter
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when these explosions took place, i don't suppose any bits and pieces of spent fuel rods were thrown all over hell's half acre , were they?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:47 | 1177900 kaiserhoff
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Suspicious minds.

Call A&Q Fire and Water restoration specialists.  We're rednecks.  We're crackers.  Hell, we can fix anything.  Ever clean up after a fuckin' lama?  We did.  It was awesome!

CALL 1-800-ROF-LMAO

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:57 | 1177908 redpill
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Come to think of it, I don't think they ever released the video of the reactor 4 building blowing up, did they?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:02 | 1178098 davepowers
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nope

and various bits and pieces of main stream media in the US kept repeating the 'fire damaged two side panels' on #4 story for weeks, long after actual photos of the true damage came out.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:14 | 1178485 Amish Hacker
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Outrageous, to be sure, but probably not as Orwellian as the suggestion that the reactor cooling system could be restarted, once Operation Extension Cord was complete.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:56 | 1178784 flattrader
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You have to admit that dumping colored bath salts into the water (to determine where the lead was coming from) and trying to plug it with a diaper was inspired.

When I told some of my friends about this, they thought I was nutz until I sent them the links.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:21 | 1177847 Pseudo Anonym
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I didn't see anything that looked overly serious in these videos.  Just a bit of steam. Big deal.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:34 | 1177882 Hansel
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Yeah, you didn't see any radiation.  What's the big deal?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:02 | 1178471 Landrew
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You're kidding right? Radiation isn't seen or heard. You are kidding right? Seriously, you are right? You should use the sarcasm button.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:56 | 1177909 avonaltendorf
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Gives a new meaning to Boiling Water Reactor. Don't be a chump. Visible water vapor means that spent fuel pools and reactor cores can't be cooled by improvized hoses. Fuel is still exposed, still melting, spewing radioactive particles into the air carried by that innocent looking steam.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:44 | 1178006 Pseudo Anonym
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that innocent looking steam

c'mon; it's been steaming for over a month.  I was looking for something "must see" - like, at least fire, melting cranes, etc.  There's a guy doing doughnuts with his car just outside the building.  He's not worried.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:02 | 1178100 BorisTheBlade
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Small hint, look once more and this time do not focus too much on the steam, you should notice nuclear reactors buildings that were blown up by the hydrogen explosion.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:14 | 1178154 Nobody special
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+10 rep from me on that one.  Choice comment, and very well stated.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:21 | 1177850 evolutionx
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Potential dispersion of the radioactive cloud over The Northern Hemisphere - its allready everywhere! All North America and northern Europe affacted! And when will it stopp? - So the radiation will get higher and higher...

see all forecast grafics and animations here:

http://www.mmnews.de/index.php/etc/7684-atomwolke-japan-vorhersage-der-a...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:23 | 1177857 duncecap rack
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Loks like completely serviceable hi tech equipment to me. I think they were a little hasty ,what was it a week or so ago?, when they said they would retire these things. What a waste of a good resource.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:30 | 1177868 onlooker
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''Although the Chattanooga area water samples detected traces of iodine-131 measured at 1.6 picocuries per liter, it is considered well within safe limits, according to EPA sources. A reading of 3.0 is the maximum allowable for drinking water." Taken from Energy News (above post). This is at HALF level! It exceeds trace amounts.
Where is the EPA.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:38 | 1177885 Hansel
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What is the EPA going to do?  Take the radiation out of the water?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:27 | 1177978 cossack55
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Hang themselves, perhaps, for incompetence and arrogance.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:29 | 1177984 ZackAttack
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Silly Hansel... they're going to prevaricate in a comforting fashion.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:17 | 1178166 Nobody special
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Japan has led the front - it's simple really.  Raise the acceptable limits.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:39 | 1178226 goldfish1
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I ain't doin' nuttin.

"...EPA officials, however, refused to answer questions or make staff members available to explain the exact location and number of monitors, or the levels of radiation, if any, being recorded at existing monitors in California. Margot Perez-Sullivan, a spokeswoman at the EPA's regional headquarters in San Francisco, said the agency's written statement would stand on its own....

..."As the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has said, we do not expect to see radiation at harmful levels reaching the U.S. from damaged Japanese nuclear power plants," the EPA statement said..."

Now, it's a statement not a spokesperson.


http://www.mercurynews.com/politics-government/ci_17621522?source=rss&nc...

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 20:05 | 1178804 Hephasteus
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Isn't it funny how the world provides jobs and money for serial killers. He probably also had really good health.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_17864737?source=most_viewed&nclick_check=1

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:07 | 1178476 Landrew
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Wait for one month. Iodine 131 has a half life of 8 hrs. Really your kidding right? Really you are aren't you:) One more post and you will have me questioning your humor, once was funny, twice not so much. People could actually believe the BS you're saying.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 16:35 | 1178431 Silver Alert
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Let's have PSA's with EPA & Chattanooga Water official's kids drinking the same water that's being foisted on the public.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:32 | 1177878 John Law Lives
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... but the impact to Japan's GDP was only supposed to be 0.2% in 2011... that is what the experts said... and they wouldn't lie to us...

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:54 | 1178261 goldfish1
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From the authors of "would we lie to you?":

Authorities have insisted the radioactivity will dissipate and poses no immediate threat to sea creatures or people who might eat them.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/16/MN7S1J24DM.DTL#ixzz1Jo9iee00

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 20:02 | 1178795 Hephasteus
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After chernobyl. Turkey sold them pounds and pounds of radiated tea just as a fuck you.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:38 | 1177879 High Plains Drifter
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so as we see these pictures it is confirmation that nothing can be done about this, nothing. this whole area is radioactive for 25,000 years or more. the entire area cannot support human life, animal life or any other kind of life. i am not sure what comes next. some say entombment will not work either. fools they were, storing 40 years of spent fuel rods there in this zone. fools they were for themselves and now for the world. but bigger fools , are here in this country , in reguards to the same kinds of practices here.  i have always been against nuclear energy as a way of producing electricity etc. the risks in my opinion far outweighed the benefits. my feelings on this matter of course have not changed one bit and will not. it was pure lunacy to think that this would work. pure lunacy.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:26 | 1177983 cossack55
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Your last sentence is just crazy talk.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:22 | 1178493 Landrew
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What you are saying is only half true. Yes, strontium, ruthenium are beta emitters for 28yrs.,plutonium is an alpha emitter 24k yr. half life, however, to say will not support life is so wrong. The area will support life, shorted with high rates of cancer although you could live there. Cancer can be a short or long event. You could be one of the lucky ones that never ingests enough or worse inhales enough beta emitter to alter your DNA. Now if you ask me if I would live there or die homeless within five years. I would live there.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:38 | 1177884 6_7_42
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Tyler,

I watched a video interview with an individual involved with Chernobyl who said the radioactivity levels made robots inoperable. Perhaps the recent introduction of robots signals a marked decrease in radioactivity such that performance issues are no longer a problem.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 15:14 | 1178305 Banjo
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6_7_42: You have to understand that the robots at Chernobyl became inoperable after prolonged exposure. So you might get a certain amount of life out of a robot before it dies e.g. 48hrs and it might die between 50-60hours depending on how much radiation it gets.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:41 | 1177890 Byte Me
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Wonder how Trey Parker will spin this? 15th season première on 27th April.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:42 | 1177896 Rogerwilco
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But isn't James Dines, the "original uranium bug", bullish on yellow cake?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:46 | 1177899 Urban Roman
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Looking for undamaged fuel rod assemblies so they can still say "possible partial damage" ...

It's hard to tell, but I think much of the tangled tubing in these videos is fuel rod assemblies that were blown out of the spent fuel pools by hydrogen explosions. I'm pretty sure those packbots will be finding corium flows when they get a look at the lower reaches of those buildings.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:22 | 1178497 disabledvet
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"further radioactive releases occurred when the corium (lava) flows came in contact with water." from the "Chernobyl" journal.  is that an ocean i see nearby?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:11 | 1177943 sangell
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That 3 reactors at TEPCO's Niigata facility are still not operational almost 4 years after a 6.7 earthquake hit there makes it plain Honshu is in a world of hurt even if TEPCO had been able to shutdown Fukushima Daichi with no loss of control or radiation release.

Every nuclear reactor in Northern Honshu is going to be offline indefinitely with all that means in terms of blackouts, supply interuptions and reduced economic output.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:16 | 1177954 Byte Me
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TD -- We're obviously far too fear stricken -- BBC reporting Jap authorities saying crisis "Over in Nine Months"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13107846

At which point it will all be over, everyone can go back home and live happily ever after.. we can be confident of this because the BBC's source is TEPCO.

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:26 | 1177982 sangell
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Nah, that's what TEPCO is saying. The will have built some kind of gimcrack 'cooling system' on the site and brought the reactor temperatures below 100 celsius and that will reduce the radiation output. The Japanese government needed to have a timeframe and TEPCO gave them this. Not that they will meet it but at least it is something for the public to measure them against.

Thing is they've got to repair the other nuclear power plants, restore the grid in Northern Japan, build new thermal generating plants AND deal with Fukushima. I doubt they have the engineers, technicians and resources to do that.

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:32 | 1177993 cossack55
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Easy fix. Let The Bernank take over. He works miracles. Or maybe its Blankfein, anyway, one of those two gods.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:51 | 1178069 Byte Me
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Sangell, you forgot that they'll likely be building FUK1 #7 and #8 -- planning permission applied for around 18th March. After all - they've only got three left to blow ATM.

Safety in numbers etc.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:19 | 1177963 Byte Me
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TD -- it's obvious why it's taken a month+ to get the robots in -- they were holding out for more danger money.

QED

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:45 | 1177987 avonaltendorf
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There was a training program...

UK defence technology group Qinetiq sent in two Talon robots, which are usually used in war zones to clear explosive devices. The company has also sent two Dragon Runner robots, which are used to gain access to small hazardous spaces, and several converted Bobcat diggers. Together the equipment is thought to be worth about £1m. Qinetiq staff were sent to Japan a week ago to train employees at Tokyo Electrical Power Company, the plant's owner, to use the robots with Xbox game controllers.

Took time to teach Japs how to use Xbox. If it was Wii or PlayStation, obviously that would have been a lot easier.
Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:49 | 1178054 Byte Me
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Dang, and I thought they were sidetracked for a month doing feasibilty studied of what bullshit the indigenous peeps would swallow - up until the time they stop swallowing -- if you catch my drift.

..how could I have discounted the TEPCO training proggie??

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:31 | 1177991 sundown333
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When you think about how much it cost to build a nuclear plant, run the plant then stick a few into concrete boxes ( chernobyl & fukushima ), just how much did it cost in dollars and cents per megawatt? Then think about the cost of 3 disasters ( cher, fuku, 3 mile ) in terms of human life and environment, was it worth it?

  And last but not least, to all those people I had to listen to my whole life saying how clean and environmentally friendly and cost effective nuclear power is, camp out right next to fukushima for a few weeks and tell me again how good nuclear power is or shut the fuck up and never again say anything good about nuclear power because you only make an ass out of yourself!!!!

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 15:42 | 1178356 BigJim
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++

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:05 | 1177998 TruthInSunshine
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The Japanese Economy is the 'big short' in a world of impending big shorts.

I don't know exactly how things will play out, and to be quite honest, given the levers, machinations and ability to extend and pretend (for some time) by central banks and governments in concert, I am agnostic on whether we have inflation, deflation, hyperinflation, hyperdeflation, stagflation, biflation, flayflation - whatever - and I won't pretend to hazard a reasonable guess at the sequence or duration of these phenomena.

All I know is that regardless of what comes first or last, the events will be intense and adverse enough to crash the system and put the global economy into a depression.

Hedge accordingly by becoming as self-sufficient and sustaining as you are able to.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:35 | 1178000 whoopsing
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Does anyone really think that those POS robot's are going to accomplish anything? Look at that mess! and then look at those silly little robot's. You would be hard pressed to find a person able to climb amongst that wreakage without injury even without the nuclear issue's! Total utter devistation to those plant's,any official word's other than 'we are totally fucked' is complete bullshit! Thank's TPTB you lying sack's of human excrement!

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:38 | 1178019 sagerxx
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The winds at Fukushima are going to start blowing from the East on Mon/Tues this week, floating contamination in a huge swath over the countryside.  Check out the map:  yikes!

http://www.dwd.de/wundk/spezial/Sonderbericht_loop.gif

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:55 | 1178078 Lord Welligton
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We can only hope there isn't another release of radiation in the meantime.

When is typhoon season?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:33 | 1178511 sagerxx
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Typhoon season is May - October, with Aug-Sept being peak.  

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:03 | 1178108 anonnn
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re Robot flight cameras

After completion of electrical redo of Chevron tank-farm about 10 years ago, an electrician flew a miniature helicopter to take pictures.

Up over power lines and hovered at 100 ft while framing the "shot" on his real-time monitor, he had the cam shoot zoom video and stills of the crew.

From looking into cliff caves for Dead Sea Scroll materials to Fukushima hi-rad work, the technology is there. Just took incompetence to delay this latest asssessment work for a month.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 15:10 | 1178291 kaiserhoff
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You could well be right.  I was thinking we would have had these shots a month ago,  but the air traffic controllers were napping;)

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:59 | 1178787 StychoKiller
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kaiserhoff comes in and applies a folding chair, FTW!

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:18 | 1178169 sundown333
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Perhaps the delay in action on the fukushima plant is because the japan gov. is thinking about how much money they can offer the family members of the soldiers that will soon be ordered to zip this up like chernobyl. Those soldiers will die a ugly death from the radaition, just like chernobyl.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:23 | 1178191 slewie the pi-rat
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yes, entombment is necessary.  the bots or who/whatever need to do an incredible amount of re-arranging of the mess first, tho.  melted cores, breached/broken reactor vessels, and spent fuel pools after clad-melt need to be prepared for entombment. 

always a little fly in the ointment somewhere, eh?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:34 | 1178221 TradingTroll
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At the bottom of the last link was the Japanese utility association telling consumers they may have to bear the cost of the accident. On face value it might seem objectionable but anyone who has been to Japan would have to admit the waste of electricity in both urban and rural centers from neon lighting to air conditioning in summer for retailers that have large open doors. The real price of yellowcake is not the spot sprice and if all the inputs of Cernobyl and Fukushima and all the increased cancers and deaths and lost cities and farms from all the nuclear accidents, plus subsidies are added, maybe we can finally get to a price point where cleaner alternatives are explored more aggressively.

 

In the meantime, here in Canada, where funding a terrorist operation can put you in jail, there is zero discussion of the largest uranium miner (Cameco, Canadian) and whether it should be responsible for supplying yellowcake to utilities with poor safety records. 

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/business/T110415004064.htm

The new chairman of the Federation of Electric Power Companies of Japan has promised to ensure the safety of nuclear power generation, but steered clear of any debate on whether power firms should share compensation costs for the crisis at a Fukushima Prefecture nuclear plant.

"I apologize [for the nuclear accident] from the bottom of my heart as a man involved in the same electricity business," said Makoto Yagi, president of Kansai Electric Power Co. "We, the electric utility industry, will work together to deal with this emergency and do our utmost to ensure the safety of nuclear energy."

Yagi was elected federation chairman Friday. He succeeded Tokyo Electric Power Co. President Masataka Shimizu, who resigned from the post to take responsibility for the ongoing troubles at TEPCO's Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant since the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.

Yagi, 61, would not be drawn on a plan under which other utilities could share the burden with TEPCO to compensate thousands of people affected by the power plant accident.

"The federation hasn't been informed [about the plan.] If [other utilities] share the cost, we'll have to ask our customers to bear the burden [by raising power bills].

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:41 | 1178234 goldfish1
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they may have to bear the cost of the accident.

They're paying for it alright.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 21:51 | 1178959 Thunder Dome
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CCJ is an incredible opportunity here.  If the company can start producing like they hope at Cigar Lake, look out.  Uranium price will recover.  Long term contracts holding strong at $80.

 

All you doomers need to pull up charts of BP, RIG and APC from Deepwater Horizon days.

 

Opportunity bitchez.  Pay me.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:51 | 1178254 bob_dabolina
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They should try running an extention cord into those buildings. I think it will yield fruitful results.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 14:57 | 1178268 Lord Welligton
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HaHa.

"Operation Extension Cord" seems so long long ago.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 15:10 | 1178290 nah
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Japan the US and England should get together to save the world from WMD

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its gunna' take guts

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 15:10 | 1178296 medicalstudent
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central tx: sunny day, noon

 

poolside: .15 microsieverts/hr

 

indoors: .08 microsieverts/hr

 

avg dose rate for american: .3 microsieverts/hr

 

(reverse osmosis. polimaster.)

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 15:56 | 1178382 UncleFurker
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Something's amiss.

 

Yesterday, these graphs were showing levels down in the 20's with only the reactor 1 drywall reading showing a "-" (because it was way over 100).

 

Now, suddenly, all the previous data has been wiped and all 3 reactors are showing numbers over 100.

http://atmc.jp/plant/rad/?

If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd be all over Reactor 4 not even being shown in the data.

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 15:58 | 1178385 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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So what ever happened to the molten pool of uranium melting through the concrete beneath the containment unit?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:45 | 1178762 Stormdancer
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Give it time.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 16:09 | 1178398 gkm
Sun, 04/17/2011 - 16:48 | 1178442 The Heart
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by Jim in MN
on Sun, 04/17/2011 - 12:16
#1177840

"Watch the fate of Fukushima City and how the air deposition around Tokyo grows for the broader immediate impact."

 

by sagerxx
on Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:38
#1178019

"The winds at Fukushima are going to start blowing from the East on Mon/Tues this week, floating contamination in a huge swath over the countryside.  Check out the map:  yikes!"

http://www.dwd.de/wundk/spezial/Sonderbericht_loop.gif

 

Great points here. What some see is obvious.

Woke up this morning with a bad feeling for the folks in Japan as the winds are shifting the fallout over Tokyo in these next few days. Here is yet another map to view. Watching this flow over the inland areas is chilling and one just asks, is it real? Are they monitoring this in real time and is it raising the levels of radiation are the next questions to be answered. It just looks grim for Japan as the ill winds shift.

Click on "loop"

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=en&VAR=niluja...
Sun, 04/17/2011 - 16:49 | 1178445 Palladin
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If you look at the second video at 2:50 in you can see the top of the reactor vessel, the big yellow domed thing. If you look at the bolts around the circumference at the top, you can see that there are several of them sticking up. It's hard to say how far they are actually sticking up, but based on the size of the vessel, it might be as much as 12". It looks like there was an explosion inside the vessel and it literally blew the top off of it. Had the explosion been any greater, it would have been like Chernobyl where the top was blown completely off. If there was an explosion powerful enough to shear the bolts, I'm  guessing any pipes, or coolant pumps inside the vessel would be inoperable.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:17 | 1178714 whoopsing
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I saw that also Palladin, yup,some serious overpressure inside that thing, they are toast . And the concrete structure of the building is just crumbled ,pulverised even some concrete column's are dust. Those thing's gotta be 3 ft sq. crossection,so anything inside that building that is less strong then those column's must also be ruined.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 20:22 | 1178827 TerraHertz
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You're not paying enough attention. That is the lid off reactor #4. It is sitting on the floor in the SFP hall, because last year it was unbolted from the reactor pressure vessel, lifted off and parked nearby (where it is now) so the pressure vessel could be inspected.

I noticed the out-of-place bolts too, but more likely they are just sitting there and got pushed up by rubble falling against them

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 16:17 | 1181649 patb
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that or a number of bolts were pulled for Changeout, or NDI Inspection.

Those bolts are real strong, hard to move them around or bend them down.

 

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:10 | 1178477 Dr. Porkchop
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Does this prove once and for all that despite their claims about safety, the industry has no real contingency plans for nuclear disasters?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 21:09 | 1178888 RichardP
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This natural disaster demonstrated that the nuclear industry is relatively safe, as they claim (the reactors have held up admirably, considering the circumstances).  The problem is with the nuclear waste.  A serious discussion of nuclear power and safety needs to keep the issue of reactors separate from the issue of nuclear waste.  It is the waste that is causing the major problems in Japan, not the reactors.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 21:33 | 1178934 Stormdancer
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Reactor 1's pressure vessel is breached and primary containment in 2 is breached (torus).  God knows what condition 3 is in.

All three loaded reactors still represent meltdown threats and potential recriticality if just one of dozens of possible adverse events occurs.

The waste fuel is a separate and massive problem but you don't need one ounce of spent fuel to make this an unmitigated disaster.

The most highly radioactive water they're dealing with is coming from the reactors...not the SFP's.   For now anyway.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:48 | 1178533 Golden monkey
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dffffffffffffdfdd

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:57 | 1178545 TruthInSunshine
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How can any rational person, even having basically no experience with technical matters involving nuclear energy facilities, take a helicopter-eye tour of this absolute wreckage, and come to any conclusion other than the spent fuel rod radioactive material stored there, in massive quantity, is now dispersed in the groundwater, soil, air and sea?

And then, there's now the fact that all 3 active reactors have experienced breaches of their containment vessels, allowing the active fuel rods to just keep leeching radioactivity into the environment and in increasingly high levels, due to criticality.

WTF. Riiiiight, they will have this resolved, let alone keep it from getting worse in 9 months.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 21:18 | 1178906 RichardP
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... allowing the active fuel rods [from the reactors] to just keep leeching radioactivity into the environment ...

I believe this claim is not correct - yet.  The fuel may have melted through the metal container, but it is being held in the concrete outer shell.  I may have missed it, but I don't believe there are significant radiation leaks from this concrete shell.  The concern is the melted fuel might burn through the concrete and down into the ground.  By all accounts, that hasn't happened yet.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:59 | 1178547 americanspirit
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Vermont Yankee, for example, has 462 tons of spent fuel rods stored on site in cooling ponds. Of course, Vermont isn't a major quake zone, so what could happen. Grid failure due to massive solar flares perhaps? Backup generators not hardened so they fry too. Oh my. That's a thousand year event. Who could have anticipated ...

GE - brings good things to life. (Bet they're sorry they ever thought up that little jingle.)

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:04 | 1178662 flattrader
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>>>Grid failure due to massive solar flares perhaps? Backup generators not hardened so they fry too.<<<

That's likely the situation for every nuclear plant in the country.

What are the odds that any of the back-up systems including the back-up generator(s) housing are Faraday Caged in copper mesh?

Really.  Does anyone know?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:59 | 1178788 Hephasteus
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Solar flare brings ground from 0 volts to +400 thousand kilovolts. Wires melt, transformers melt, towers holding wires melt. 4 air particles close to each other make a decent electrical pathway.

Everything melts. It's like the wicked witch of the west only it doesn't get to say I'll kill you and your little dog too before melting.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 01:46 | 1179302 TaxSlave
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Faraday cages around backup generators?  No.  The wires that connect them will fry them anyway.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:04 | 1178670 intric8
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wind pattern reverses today in japan - http://falloutphilippines.blogspot.com

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:42 | 1178761 flattrader
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That's a good blog for keeping updated.

Bookmarked.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:24 | 1178677 intric8
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thank heavens this crisis didnt happen in china.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 19:14 | 1178691 MSimon
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If you want a (black) humorous view of goings on in Japan.

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2011/04/69-months-and-btw-nice-hole-...


69 Months And BTW Nice Hole You Got There Of course it fits in with the general tenor of ZH.
Sun, 04/17/2011 - 20:27 | 1178834 Madhouse
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From previous Quote: (you can't make this stuff up)...

Breaking:

TEPCO says can fix in 6-9 months. Whew! That was close.

http://enenews.com/

 

A. STFU

B. Do you think radiation clouds moving across the Pacific to the US is a good thing for the next 6-9 months

C. Are you 12 ?  Do you understand how Tepco execs are  cashing out ? Apparently not... so...

D.  STFU - probably some fucking Japanese PR blogger... fuck you !

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 20:54 | 1178873 MSimon
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Sir,

You may want to have your doctor check your irony gland. The secretions appear to be defective.

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 21:27 | 1178885 Stormdancer
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Here's some further info I ran across that may provide a bit more light on whether reactor 1 actually did experience instances of recriticality.

About the 24th or 25th of March there was a huge flap about high radiation levels in the water beneath the turbine buildings around reactors 1 and 2.  Iodine 134 was reportedly detected in huge amounts, but that was quickly retracted as a mistake.  I *think* I remember Chlorine 38 being mentioned but don't trust my memory.  In any case, I found this short press release from TEPCO a couple days ago:

 

http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/files/en20110325-6.pdf

 

The press release has a table of the radionuclides detected and their amounts as measured 25 Mar 11...as follows:

Regarding the result of concentration measurement in the stagnant water on the basement floor of the turbine building of Unit 1 of Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Station

 

Chlorine 38               1.6 million bequerels per cubic centimeter (half life under 38 min)

Arsenic 74                 390 Bq/per cm3                                         (half life = 17.77 days)

Yttrium 91                 52000 Bq/cm3                                       (half life = 58.51 days)

Iodine 131                 210,000 Bq/cm3                                    (half life = 8.0252 days)

Cesium 134               160,000 Bq/cm3                                     (half life = 2.0652 years)

Cesium 136               17,000 Bq/cm3                                       (half life = 13.04 days)

Cesium 137               1.8 million Bq/cm3                                  (half life =  30.08 years)

Lanthanum 140          340 Bq/cm3                                           (half life = 40.28 hours)

 

That water was hotter 'n a three dollar pistol and no mention of Iodine 134...but that Chlorine 38 in such massive amounts...

Problem was that I heard no amounts at the time, and Chlorine 38 could conceivably be created by normal spontaneous fission of heavy metals in the fuel rods, so even the detection of Chlorine 38 didn't prove it had gone critical.

Then I found this:

http://www.ieer.org/comments/Cause_of_high_Cl-38_Radioactivity20110330.pdf

 

They had to make some assumptions about the distribution of the fuel and its relationship to the seawater needed to provide the chlorine, but in my opinion those assumptions were pretty generous.

They didn't come right out and say the Cl-38 HAD to have been created by a recriticality, but they pretty well eliminated the only other logical source (that I'm aware of) which is normal, predictable spontaneous decay of plutonium or cerium.

Anyway, I'm putting this out there in case someone can falsify this...but as of now I'm fully convinced at least one instance of recriticality occured.  I wasn't entertaining much doubt before...but this eliminated the last shreds for me.

The way they're cooling these things I'm very doubtful they can keep a steady concentration of boron in these reactors, so if this is correct, the chances of more criticality events is far higher than I want to contemplate.

 

 

 

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 21:28 | 1178922 avonaltendorf
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Thank you, SD. Keep digging.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 23:29 | 1179103 MSimon
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I blogged this over the last few weeks and came to the same conclusion. One thing is that the Cl-38 number is probably in error. However any sizeable number is probably evidence of criticality.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:48 | 1180082 Stormdancer
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MSimon is it the high reading that makes you think it may be an error?  Too high?  I don't have the slightest confidence in anything TEPCO reports, but in the absence of anything else it's about all we can punt from.

Just curious what you're looking at that makes you think the report is inaccurate. 

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 01:45 | 1179297 TaxSlave
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The other smoking gun is the 'neutron beams' 1.5 KM away.  Unlikely to come from normal decay.  And not safe to work around if they continue.  Best not to try to detect them, I suppose.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 10:08 | 1180168 Stormdancer
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I didn't focus on it, but those neutrons detected were mentioned prominently in the IEER analysis (second link) as well.

Purists will say we don't have a smoking gun yet, but I think we're seeing things in ultra high speed video.  The gun's been fired but the bullet hasn't quite exited the barrel.  Smoke will be visible soon enough I think

Note:  Yes, I'm aware that using "gun's" as a contraction for "gun has" is grammatically incorrect :).  Jes 'cuz ah knows the rules, don't means ah gots ta use 'em!

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 21:41 | 1178935 Fiat Money
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Don't forget, boys and girls, with a MILLIONTH of a GRAM being   fatally poisonous (carcinoginic and/or organ degenerating) - particles this size ARE AIRBORNE,  and are now  floating, in soot and dust, all over not only Japan, but the entire world.  

   Hate to report this dire news,  but it does lead to a new cliche:  Instead of telling the bad guys to "EAT LEAD!"  Hollywood film scripts and stars could now tell the  "NUCLEAR IS SAFE!" propagandists to  "go ahead, EAT YOUR SPINACH, it's Healthy for you... it ONLY has a micro-gram (millionth-gram = fatal dose) of plutonium on it!" 

=  "EAT PLUTONIUM, suckers!"

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 21:59 | 1178972 Fiat Money
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also hate to report how the 1950s Nevada nuclear tests often created concentrated MICRO-DOWN-BURST  blasts of toxic fallout and radiation - hundreds (much less dozens) of miles away, in Utah, 

"THE DAY WE BOMBED UTAH - America's Most Lethal Secrethttp://www.amazon.com/Day-We-Bombed-Utah-Americas/dp/B000P1J1T0

 The details are so awful - thousands of sheep & cattle killed, cancer ravaging the crew and cast on the set of the John Wayne movie, "The Conquerors" -  we have to know that similar (mass lethal)   microbursts "weather anomolies"  are going wherever the hell they want to today, including quite possibly entirely across the Pacific ocean. 

 

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 21:47 | 1178950 miker
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It's astounding the explosive power of large amounts of hydrogen gas.  Ripped these concrete buildings and probably steel containments to shreds. 

They've got a gargantuan fucking mess to deal with and I doubt seriously they will ever get it "under control" before entombment.  Access to the damaged fuel will be impossible.

Here's how it's going to play out.  They will end up building a 25 mile or so, discharge pipe from the plant out into the Pacific.  After encasing these piles of rubble in concrete, they will circulate cooling water from the ocean through each sarcophagus and then discharge the nasty stuff out 25 miles for full dispersant.  So what if there is an occassional fissioning.  As long as they force some cooling through these things, it will all eventually die away.

Of course, they'll need to spend billions on alot of other wasted efforts before they come to this conclusion, because it would not be politically correct to suggest this solution first.  But they'll end up doing it.

As I've said before on this disaster:  The sea giveth and the sea taketh away.

One positive note will be a huge resurgence of tuna and other fish stocks around the world.  Maybe even some new species.

 

Finally, haven't heard anyone tie in the old Japanese two bit monster movies (Godzilla, etc.) with this event.  Weren't those fictional critters supposed to have been formed from some radiation disaster?  Funny how life imitates art.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 21:48 | 1178953 Heroic Couplet
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In the internet's early days, there was a web cam trained on a coffee machine. These reactors and videos should have permanent Geiger counter readouts posted in the same manner. I don't care if the readings are off the scale. That's the point.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 21:51 | 1178969 Fix It Again Timmy
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So much for organic gardening; it's now plutonic gardening...

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 00:12 | 1179160 automato
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My wife is Chinese and tells me that her Chinese newspapers are saying that "what can only be described as a nuclear weapon has been discovered in one of the Fukushima storage facilities"! SHTF

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 01:29 | 1179282 Remo Williams
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Background Gamma here in Niigata approx. 200km West of Fukushima dai-ichi is 0.14 micro-sieverts per hour as tested by myself using a recently calibrated geiger counter.
This is normal background level for this area.  I will continue to monitor the local situation and post updates as necessary to Zerohedge threads regarding Fukushima.  I will also be in Tokyo taking readings.  I hope everyone else here in Japan is taking necessary precautions and I wanted to thank Tyler and co. for their fantastic coverage thus far.

 

 

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 01:59 | 1179318 Buck Johnson
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There screwed.

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