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If you seriously believe that your mere, meager human ass can do anything- anything at all- to thwart, alter or bend the rule of nature, then you are not nearly as educated as you believe.
Cycles persist but grand cycles rule. Please, take your idea that you are more than a speck in a glimpse of time somewhere else.
Volcanoes, like the one, oh, last week in Indonesia, spew more greenhouse gases in one hour than all of the coal, cars and cows that have ever been or ever will be- combined.
In short, take your proud 16 junks, make like a tree and leaf.
"If you seriously believe that your mere, meager human ass can do anything- anything at all- to thwart, alter or bend the rule of nature,"
Where do I make such a spurious claim? I'm no Zaphod Beeblebrox dude! My point is that we are nothing but grains of sand on Nature's beach.. We don't have a chance of controlling the outcome... Leaving climate change aside, we are destroying our ecosphere in so many other ways that it really doesn't matter whether the Earth is warming or cooling. Our ability to cope with whatever the Universe throws at us next, I believe would be much improved if we worked on simply less pollution of all kinds... fewer chemicals, less packaging, less landfill..you know the classic crying Indian Chief stuff... And we can't even do that...so even discussing what to do about the Crisis Formerly Known As Global Warming is rather futile. In any case all of this could be settled in moments by a planet killing asteroid, which could occur within this generation, and we certainly would be too fucktarded to cooperate in time to avert such a disaster... Earth is most likely the laughing stock of the known Universe!
And I love how a good slice of ZH readers love to debate only when they all generally agree with each other.
You first, please.
The rest of us will stand back and watch.
BTW- remember to put the cat out first.
You are exactly right except the proof that it is a hoax is precisely because the earth is billions of years old.
global warming = first worldwide (read UN) tax = world government = scam = slavery
This is true AND the globe is warming up
(naturally or not... I don't really care because I live in a cold barren wasteland 6 months of the year. Bring on the warming!)
Well said, the two are not mutually exclusive. We just broke a heat record here in Puget Sound for November. Bring on the heat. Also, if lots of places dry up, maybe I can sell my rainwater by the barrel. I have a feeling it's more important than oil
global warming is a ken lay scam
In a White House meeting in August 1997, for example, Lay urged President Clinton and Vice President Gore to back a "market-based" approach to the problem of global warming -- a strategy that a later Enron memo makes clear would be "good for Enron stock.
Global warming is about as close to scientific fact as you can get. However, the way the oligarchs see monopoly opportunity in carbon trading speculation and are concocting ways to devolve the payments and liabilities to us little guys is the real scam. Using global warming to lock down more control over trading using international laws deemed "environmental" in such a way to accelerate concentration of wealth and guarantee financial genocide/environmental suicide.
Carbon trading will likely backfire in an oligarchic system and here is why. To expand the market for carbon trading and carbon trading speculation, we need to increase pollution limits, and since politicians are bought and sold that is just what they'll be able to do (with tehe defeated Prop 23 in California a harbinger of the argument, in short, more pollution = more jobs and a stronger economy), and more fossil fuels bought which the oligarchs control and can make a killing on (pardon the pun) because demand will be up and supply down.
Well said sir! That's why I prefer the first worldwide corporate to individuals tax on anything from increased prices to enviromental destruction. It's a lot more free market -ythan those commies...
so far, so wrong
"The sleeper that no one is paying attention to here is that simple majority rule for the legislature passed, dumping the 2/3 requirement. California taxes are about to go up a lot."
Apparently he missed the part where raising taxes still requires a 2/3rds majority. This is what happens when you write a newsletter without a good editor and fact checker.
As far as equities being lower, I think the Fed has proven that it can keep it artificially high pretty much as long as it wants to, and it appears to want to indefinately, until such a time that they are forced to stop. I'd say we're still several years away from reaching the critical mass necessary to make this happen. As much as I'd love to see the showdown happen and the debt ceiling stop from being bumped up, I just don't think there's the political will there to make it happen. Too many bought guys still run it.
who cares it is too late to make much of a difference either way. Chance of returning to 1855 =0. Chance of returning to 1861=45%
Bullets, PM, Food, sandbags
Well Alan Grayson lost and Barney won.
That sums up the elections.
America probably loves QE (to its own death).
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