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NACA's Bruce Marks Goes Postal At JPM Crony During Yesterday's Fraudclosure Hearing

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Possibly the most incendiary moment of yesterday's fraudclosure hearing in which Bank of America and JP Morgan representatives saw no evil and heard no evil, even as Chris Dodd wanted it over so he can buy no evil with the years of accumulated lobby booty from said banks after his long overdue reign of corruption finally ends, was when the CEO of the Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America, Bruce Marks, realized he has had enough of the endless lies and goes postal at the appropriately named JPM henchman David Lowman, CEO of Chase Home Lending. After Lowman says that "Chase strongly prefers to work with borrowers to reach a solution that lets them keep their homes" Lowman flips out. Watch the hilarious results here. This video is merely a harbinger of what happens when pent up anger at banker lies overflows. Luckily, this time everything ended peacefully, and to the banks' credit, the voice was promptly silenced. Next time, it won't be so easy...

 

Update: reader Jeff points out that this is not the first time Lowman got humiliated during a hearing. As can be seen on the clip below, after telling Dodd's partner in crime Barney Frank that his response to frustrated borrowers who are bounced around by JPM, is "come to me", he literally gets mobbed by people who "come to him."

We encourage all readers who may have a Chase-related loan to immediately send their query to Mr. Lowman, as per his advice. He can be reached at David.lowman@chase.com

 

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Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:54 | 734375 plocequ1
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This country is done. Trials and hearings are nothing but entertainment at this point. The law is not deceided by the judicial system, But by our owners. You know.. GE, Walmart, Etc, Etc..

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:20 | 734521 jus_lite_reading
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Oh, this is just the beginning of the outrage. The lying sack of shit bankster frauds will eat shit!

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:33 | 734591 TuffsNotEnuff
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Where's the shoe being thrown ???

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:25 | 734804 Thanatos
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When it's real, it will be obvious.

Genuine hatred is hard to mistake for anything else.

It takes people apart.

Wake me up when people actually get mad.

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:04 | 734959 RichardP
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That's what everybody is saying.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:43 | 735451 Al Gorerhythm
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A fucking shoe!? Make it a front door, followed by the book.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:43 | 735452 Al Gorerhythm
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A fucking shoe!? Make it a front door, followed by the book.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 17:04 | 735453 Al Gorerhythm
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DP

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:50 | 735454 Al Gorerhythm
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A fucking shoe!? Make it a front door, followed by the book. These were all a mistake. My fat finger angrily smashed into the save button on a jammed in the system request. Sorry.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:36 | 734600 High Plains Drifter
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I saw this last night on CSPAN. I was surprised nobody had said anything on zerohedge. He is lucky he didn't get tazed.

 

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:02 | 734695 Pedro
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"Don't taze me Bro"

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:44 | 735147 FEDbuster
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"Don't touch my junk!"

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 17:06 | 735612 rookie
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"But if you touch my junk, I'm going to have you arrested."

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2010/11/16/ac.scanners.conflict.of.interest.cnn

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:04 | 735245 FubarNation
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That is so last year

 

'Don't TSAse me Bro' is more appropriate.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:18 | 734763 Ripped Chunk
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He has taken an unscheduled vacation to an undisclosed location for a needed rest.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:43 | 735448 EscapeKey
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But where he is now, he is no doubt very happy.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:51 | 734906 Cognitive Dissonance
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He is lucky he didn't get tazed.

The Congressional Police know better than to taz a person in front of the camera. I'm sure we will hear that this guy was dragged into some back room and "charged" a few times.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:19 | 735031 DosZap
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Tazed hell, this man just got Deep Sixed by DHS as a Friggin Terrorist.

He dared to use the 1st Amendment.He's fkd.

He may never be seen again, as we send checks to Gitmo detainees.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:45 | 735462 Bob
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It behooves us to follow this question.  This knee-jerk terror of DHS et al deserves to be testing--and this is a damn good case to test it. 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:52 | 735507 Bob
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It behooves us to follow this question.  Our knee-jerk terror of DHS et al needs to be tested--and this is a damn good case to test it. 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:37 | 734601 macholatte
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you're dreaming.

all of this has been scripted. ONE protestor foments nothing but a discussion by the committee weather to close the hearing to the public.

 It's no fun to protest on an empty stomach.
Michael Bloomberg

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:53 | 734657 Bob
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The protestor spokesperson was accompanied by a crew of people who stood with him, several holding a sign. 

The event was clearly not scripted into the show by the producers. 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:13 | 734741 Rick64
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 Although I agree with you, I wonder why the others didn't join in.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:27 | 734814 Thanatos
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Because they have been trained to hold still while the crook-monkey fucks them.

Just like everyone else.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:07 | 734918 Bob
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Sucker scripting--they apparently imagined that there was a message to be heard and that all talking at the same time was a bad idea.  Not to mention that few people are ready to step up and talk on national tv--even the guy who had the job performed weakly.  It ain't easy. 

Hopefully, this will inspire other groups, though. 

Unfortunately, most of the protestor class are liberals . . . who remain either in thrall of Barry or afraid to publicly disavow him.  What a horribly Imperfect Storm it makes for protesting.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:14 | 734992 Slewburger
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Unfortunately, most of the protester class are liberals

Yea hate to say it these folks look like SEIU. And no not because they're black, because they obviously had seats all together in a packed hearing room. Just saying... a staged event can allow a precedent of closed door hearings to avoid 'disruptions'.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:27 | 735062 Bob
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The only way to get an "event" is to stage it, however.  Just the nature of the beast. 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 18:00 | 735888 dark pools of soros
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start cuttin those cops pensions and then they won't have anyone to remove the dissenters ...  until they call the national guard... or the army...  or just bomb a few cities..

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:05 | 735252 ajax
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No Mr. Butchcoffee, you're wrong. No script, just a righteous citizen's outrage. 

What does King Bloomberg know about empty stomachs anyway?

Thu, 11/18/2010 - 06:36 | 737197 snowball777
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Whaddaya mean? He's made plenty of them.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:18 | 735314 ajax
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No Mr. Butchcoffee, you're wrong. No script, just a righteous citizen's outrage. 

What does King Bloomberg know about empty stomachs anyway?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:19 | 735320 ajax
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No Mr. Butchcoffee, you're wrong. No script, just a righteous citizen's outrage. 

What does King Bloomberg know about empty stomachs anyway?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:20 | 734526 detersbb
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That might be the case, but don't you know how much money, er, campaign contributions that little dog and poney show cost JP Morgan and Crew?  And how dare a serf raise his voice in defiance of the overlord attempting to use flowerly language to double-speak over the reality that they committed massive fraud.  Does the peasant have no shame?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:27 | 734560 barkster
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we have to end this lame duck farce. newly elected legislators must be sworn in the week after election. chris dodd should be on a golf course somewhere.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:30 | 734582 Fred Hayek
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No.  Chris Dodd should be UNDER a golf course somewhere.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:54 | 734655 Rasna
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Chris Dodd should be in jail!

I was in MD a month ago talking to a well connected business person who was with Dodd on a tour of an exclusive area being developed.  Dodd had commented that he might be of assistance, but it would be very nice to have one of the prime locations (hint, hint)... I don't know what the outcome was, but his not so subtle hinting just underscores the corruption of the system... Obama likes to tout the passage of Dodd-Frank, but as we all know it does little to solve the rampant financial corruption.  Dodd is going, I just don't know how much destruction he'll leave in his wake.

The ONLY solution is to vote out all of the incumbents, with very few exceptions.  We also need campaign finance reform and a Constitutional ammendment denying "personhood", and the attendent right, to corporations.

Lastly, I hope to God that Ron Paul is successful in taking the Fed to the woodshed and that the Repubs are successful in redefining tthe Fed mandate - manage the money supply and manage inflation.  Seeing that they (R's) denied/blocked is appointment to chair the sub-committee with oversight responsibility of the Fed several times in the past, I'm not hopeful.

I absolutely hate the corporate oligarchy and financial system as it is now incarnated.  It may have to be blown up so that we can start over and I'm sure that it will cause pain, but they will devour our great nation if they are not reined in.  A pox on the Dem's, the Repub's, the spineless president and the bought and paid for court system.  These bastards are eyeing the next "great" middle class to peddle their wares to - China.  They (corporations) care less about the US of A.

BTW, this has been going on for decades.  Read Butlers book - "War is a Racket" to get an idea of how the corporate oligarchy of the day tried to overthrow FDR.  Corporate leaders and their government minions are from hell and have no souls.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:08 | 734719 Rick64
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Thomas Dodd ( Chris Dodd's father)

In 1967 Dodd became the first Senator censured by the US Senate since Joseph McCarthy in 1954,[21] and was one of only six people censured by the Senate in the 20th century. The censure was a condemnation and finding that he had converted campaign funds to his personal accounts and spent the money.[22][23] Beyond the Senate Ethics Committee's formal disciplinary action, other sources (such as investigative journalist Drew Pearson and Jack Anderson's Congress in Crisis) suggest[24] Dodd's corruption was far broader in scope, and there were accusations of alcoholism.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:54 | 734922 Ripped Chunk
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Being a drunk is the least heinous of his offenses.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:15 | 735008 sgt_doom
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Thanks for mentioning this, Rick64, but that's just the tip of the iceberg where the Dodd family of corruption is concerned.

At least two, probably more, pieces of congressional legislation were passed in an attempt to curb the absolute corruption of Tommy Dodd.

Taking advantage of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), originally passed to limit the influence of German agents in the USA leading up to World War II, Dodd registered himself, while in the US congress, for a number of countries, the majority headed by very bloody dictators, to lobby on their behalf, to the tune of $100,000 per dictator.

When legislation was passed to curb Dodd's corruption (limiting the amount to $10,000 per country), Dodd greatly expanded the countries -- and bloody dictators -- he lobbied on behalf of to take in the same amount of money.

Later, more legislation was passed limiting the number of countries a PoliCrook could represent.

When you need to check on a law firm or PR firm representing a foreign country, you check with the DOJ's FARA listing, and it should be found there.

The Dodds, a dynasty of corruption.

And speaking of dynasties of corruption:

http://www.youtube.com/familyofsecrets

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:47 | 735162 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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...and the eighth and final rule, if this is your first night at Book Club, you have to read.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:53 | 735191 Rick64
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Thanks

Family of Secrets - Excellent book.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:15 | 735016 Unlawful Justice
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Nuremberg chief prosecutor Thomas J. Dodd wrote privately that the overly Jewish staffing of the prosecution team would make people say WW2 had been fought for their benefit alone


SENATOR Christopher J. Dodd, running for U.S. president, is out with a book. But it's not a conventional candidate biography or blueprint for change.

It's about the Connecticut Democrat's late father, Thomas J. Dodd (above), who preceded him in the Senate. In fact, most of it was written by his father -- and it is fascinating.

The book, which the senator put together with the assistance of Larry Bloom, is Letters from Nuremberg: My Father's Narrative of a Quest for Justice.

The senior Dodd wrote the letters in 1945-'46 to his wife, Grace, back home in Connecticut, while he was abroad, mostly in Germany, as a prosecutor in the Allies' war crimes trial of 22 top Nazis, including Hermann Göring, Joachim von Ribbentrop and Albert Speer. (All but three were convicted; 12 were sentenced to hang.)

Consider these Sept. 25, 1945, observations from Tom Dodd, who would emerge as second in command on the American prosecution team:

"You know how I have despised anti-Semitism. You know how strongly I feel toward those who preach intolerance of any kind. With that knowledge -- you will understand when I tell you that this staff is about seventy-five percent Jewish. Now my point is that the Jews should stay away from this trial -- for their own sake.

"For -- mark this well -- the charge 'a war for the Jews' is still being made and in the post-war years it will be made again and again.

"The too large percentage of Jewish men and women here will be cited as proof of this charge. Sometimes it seems that the Jews will never learn about these things. They seem intent on bringing new difficulties down on their own heads. I do not like to write about this matter --it is distasteful to me -- but I am disturbed about it. They are pushing and crowding and competing with each other and with everyone else."

Chris Dodd tells me that when he reads this letter, "I first of all cringe a little bit because I wonder what he's driving at."

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 23:26 | 736742 Best Satan in Town
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Banking_Act

 

"Title V, Section 501. Appropriation of $2,000,000 to the President for carrying out this legislation."

 

It's hard for me to figure out whether FDR was actually an outsider (as LaRouche claims) or if he was an insider. However, things like the above section of the Emergency Banking Act convince me it was the latter and not the former.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 23:26 | 736744 Best Satan in Town
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Banking_Act

 

"Title V, Section 501. Appropriation of $2,000,000 to the President for carrying out this legislation."

 

It's hard for me to figure out whether FDR was actually an outsider or if he was an insider. However, things like the above section of the Emergency Banking Act convince me it was the latter and not the former.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 23:27 | 736745 Best Satan in Town
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Banking_Act

 

"Title V, Section 501. Appropriation of $2,000,000 to the President for carrying out this legislation."

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:19 | 734769 Ripped Chunk
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+ 10,000

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:30 | 734818 Thanatos
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Dodd should be thinly spread across several golf courses... And I am not talking about his ashes.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:39 | 735428 RECISION
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The Washington Sniper was shooting the wrong people...

A for Anarchy

Thu, 11/18/2010 - 06:38 | 737200 snowball777
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Worry not. He's got ass cancer and is 100% ass.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:25 | 734556 Rick64
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 Fucking beautiful senators removing the people they represent from the procedings and refusing to hear them. Treasonous.  I am inspired by the people standing up, because they are the only ones that seem willing to expose the lies and hypocrisy. Its time to take the power back. Rage against the machine.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:49 | 734646 High Plains Drifter
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Yeh and this fucking Dodd sitting up there acting like he is being real nice, even though he got a sweetheart deal from Countryslide , shall we not forget, and probably a host of other things over his long and illustrious career in government. So now he is leaving and retiring with his big fat government retirement package and his probable future employment deals as a lobbyist. But he sits there and tells the American that is angry to clear the room, and outburst such as this are not permitted. He belongs at the end of a rope.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:50 | 734377 Chump
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Sacks of shit.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:38 | 734613 williambanzai7
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Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:09 | 734722 His Dudeness
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Do the people in the Sacking Industry have any standards at all? And have they been adversely affected by the economic downturn?

If it's USELESS, why put it in a sack? Convenience? Storage? Transport? Sanitation? Tradition?

What makes shit useless? Is there no such thing as useful shit? Oxymoron? Moron from Oxford?

Can we get the UK ZH readers with Oxford degrees, after 4 o'clock tea, to comment?

Thank you.

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:16 | 734754 ToNYC
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Location. Location. Location.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:06 | 734713 digitalhermit
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"REVOLUTION, n. A bursting of the boilers which usually takes place when the safety valve of public discussion is closed." -- Ambrose Bierce

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:32 | 735090 Amish Hacker
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Ambrose Bierce rules!

POLITICS: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of ideals; (2) the conduct of public affairs for private advantage.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:10 | 734985 tpberg7
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Shinola spewing bitchez!

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:50 | 734379 flaunt
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lol "nothing to see here... move along."

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:51 | 734382 Cheeky Bastard
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So very South Korean Parliament-aresque [save the fist fight]

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:01 | 734440 DaveyJones
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that's coming. good to see you

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:56 | 734675 Rasna
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Good to hear from you Cheeky... Don't be a stranger.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:04 | 734701 Tipo anónimo
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Man, I hope you're able to stick around and flail the living crap of some of these smart ass posters around here.  Hasn't been the same since you, Chumba and a few others decided to get work that pays :)

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:18 | 734762 ToNYC
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It is not a fist fight when the fist is stuck up your butt.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:58 | 734935 ZeroPower
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You deleted the twitter?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:21 | 735044 Cheeky Bastard
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Yeah, but I have a new account @ZHCheekyBastard ...

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:03 | 735244 Bolweevil
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And a new business venture I see

http://thecheeky.com/

all the best

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:55 | 734385 goldmiddelfinger
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That Wamu Bear sandwich sure leaves a tummy ache

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:51 | 734386 Bigger Dickus
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DISGUSTING COPS

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:24 | 734553 Mad Max
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Don't blame them, they're just following orders.

 

Cheers!

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:33 | 734841 Thanatos
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You can own one too!

Just pay their salary, provide training and gear.

They will do your bidding.

Happens all the time.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:44 | 735148 Jendrzejczyk
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We do pay their salary, provide for their traning and gear. Doesn't seem to be working for us.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:55 | 735201 Thanatos
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Try handing them a check.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 18:50 | 736097 Andy Lewis
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Cash is safer, no?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:53 | 734389 goldmiddelfinger
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The disturbancce came from Chris Dodd's rogue leprechaun

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:56 | 734390 goldmiddelfinger
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.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:52 | 734393 SRV - ES339
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When will America stand up to the Wall Street thieves... so far, the backlash has produced a House majority bankrolled by the thieves... well done!

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:18 | 734518 BobPaulson
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Never?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:41 | 734593 Winston Smith 2009
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"When will America stand up to the Wall Street thieves?"

Tutorial: Sheep Shearing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnUgymM_dew

;-)

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:38 | 734864 Thanatos
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+100000

That time passed a few years ago.

When 95% were screaming NO TARP and Washington went ahead with it anyway.

We are GIANT PUSSIES!

We will let the banker monkey make pecker tracks all over us and all we will do is vote the other party in and exclaim Oh My!

Like I said, wake me up when people actually get mad...

It won't be hard to tell when it happens, as you will see congressmen and bankers running around with burning car tires shoved down over their shoulders.

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:38 | 734598 Bring the Gold
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Voting doesn't matter if people continue to allow the media and the incredibly undemocratic RNC and DNC to handpick more oligarch candidates.

Voting has become about which culture war Oligarch party candidate they like. People are so busy talking about divisive culture war nonsense they fail to see that critical policy around corporatocracy and banking theft doesn't change one iota from one party to the next. Until the candidate selection process is unraveled it will be more and more and more of the same whether we have all red all blue or a mix it won't matter. The mainstream media, campaign contributions and the RNC/DNC along with diehbold have this shit on lockdown.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:45 | 734636 Winston Smith 2009
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The wedge issues are used, as always, to divert attention from vastly more important but more _complex_ issues using simple, controversial issues and to provide the illusion of significant differences between the two equally bought and paid for political parties.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:55 | 734670 Bring the Gold
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Exactly right. Not sure how things are going to get fixed at this point. I can't see any good outcomes here, at least not without a rather nasty point B between starting point A and positive outcome C.

I do prefer a nasty mid point B to far worse outcome C1 however.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:00 | 734937 Raging Debate
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Wise comment. Altering the government (returning the power of the purse to the people) is what is needed. A return to the rule of law and a producer nation, creating the opportunity to benefit.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:57 | 735519 Bring the Gold
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One key to what you propose is changing the framing of the debate. It's not capitalism vs socialism it's Corporatism oligarchy vs Socialist Oligarchy.

You will note both involve oligarchy and neither has much to do with capitalism, that is the free exchange of goods and services between people. Nay, Adam Smith's invisible hand is pimp slapping the entrepreneur and laborer alike. No chance to accumulate capital when your competitor can create fiat "capital" from thin air and buy up resources and politicians.

People need to make the critical distinction between true capitalism and corporatism via fiat fractional reserve banking.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 17:35 | 735720 GoinFawr
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"People need to make the critical distinction between true capitalism and corporatism via fiat fractional reserve banking."++

heh, for some reason the futility of that speech reminds me of the hoplessness of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQqq3e03EBQ

Regards

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:54 | 734661 Kobe Beef
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Exactly. Thanks for your sanity & brevity.

Also, for pinpointing the pressure points of oligarch political control: RNC/DNC.

Eliminate these and perhaps representational democracy could be restored.

Cheers,
Beef

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:00 | 734688 Bring the Gold
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There's the rub though.

How do we change things when every aspect of the "Democratic Process" from candidate selection, campaign finance, discussion of issues and even voting (blackbox computers) is controlled?

I'm afraid this can't go anywhere good without a rather nasty middle point. Again, preferable to allowing yet more oligarchacal madness this time on a global scale. Recognizing the real threat, Globalism (previously referred to and again recently as the NWO), is the key IMO. Democracies worldwide have been slowly corrupted and controlled just like ours. 

Need proof? Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtd7o9x5uN0

No way you get two Prime Ministers with the same speech without global collusion and coordination. Certainly no chance this happens in a real democracy.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:09 | 735266 Kobe Beef
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How to change? Create a clear disincentive for cooperating with the oligarchs. The oligarchs are untouchable. Their minions are not. The value of complexity is that there are so many happy accidents waiting to befall the sophisticated modern man.

Not violence, not felonies. Pranks. Dirty tricks. Public Humiliation. Character assassination. Garbage. Dead Animals. Air Horns. Bags of frozen shrimp hidden in the target's hubcaps. You know, shit you used to do in High School to Rivals, but with a serious purpose this time. The object is to identify your target's weaknesses and then systematically break him down. Break his will.

Step 1: find a sympathetic criminal defense lawyer. Eventually you will get caught. Be prepared. A good criminal lawyer will be necessary to reduce charges & fines to a manageable level. The object should be Misdemeanor offenses.

Step 2: 2 pairs Pants, black. 2 Shirts, black. 2 pairs socks, black. remember--this Tyler Durden's blog. Try a balaclava or a hat which disguises your ears and forehead too.

Step 3: Research targets. Names, locations, movements. Note obvious weaknesses. Probe if necessary.

Step 4: Form a cell. The ranks of unemployed are filled with useful skills. Think Plumbers, (de)Construction workers, Electricians, telephone technicians, etc. Teenagers are great recruits. They'll do almost anything just for the adrenaline rush alone. They also have summers and spring breaks off to create mayhem.

Step 5: First Strike. Nothing big, just enough to remove the enemies' air of invincibility. Make a great prank. Have a good time. Make them laughable & others will get the same idea.

Step 6: Halloween '11? Big pranks. Nasty tricks. The devil gets his due.

Cheers,
Beef

The aforementioned is a work of fiction, written by a sentient cow. Nobody should take this seriously. Operate at your own risk.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:46 | 735469 RECISION
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Not bad, it's a start.

But:

Step 1: find a sympathetic criminal defense lawyer. Eventually you will get caught. Be prepared. A good criminal lawyer will be necessary to reduce charges & fines to a manageable level. The object should be Misdemeanor offenses.

A real revolution means filling the prisons to overflowing with dissidents

Thu, 11/18/2010 - 12:04 | 737786 Kobe Beef
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Dear RECISION,

By all means, please try it your way. As for me, I fail to see how going to prison results in anything more than a severe restriction on one's freedom and an increasing revenue stream for the Prison-security complex.

god speed, good luck,
Beef

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 04:39 | 748812 RECISION
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 I fail to see how going to prison results in anything more than a severe restriction on one's freedom

I would rather not go to prison given a choice, but we may not end up being given much choice. It all depends how unemployed, broke and starving you are.

Like I have said elsewhere, when does an army of unemployed become simply "an army".

The prisons are already full to bursting with marginally attached members of society. For a lot of them, prison is already an improvement in their standard of living.

What I am talking about is - what are the practical limits of that trend?

The State's security apparatus will keep arresting and incarcerating enemies and threats to the system for as long as it can.

But when do they overwhelm and swamp your "Prison-Security complex"?

That is when the revolution will start.

 

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 17:02 | 735587 iDealMeat
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Just cut your consumption in half.. burn all your own trash and make yourself a gasification generator.. Enjoy the outdoors, family and friends..

Make some popcorn and watch the entire system starve to death.

Thu, 11/18/2010 - 12:10 | 737808 Kobe Beef
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Dear iDealMeat,

Got any spec.s (links) u can post on gasification generators?

Thanks,
Beef

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 17:42 | 735801 GoinFawr
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Stereo PM's

 thanks for the link

Regards

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:53 | 734396 NotApplicable
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So, when are they going to start running CSPAN on a 5 minute delay?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:40 | 734621 knukles
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Anybody else noticed a change in scheduling on early morning CNBS and Bloomberg over the past week or so or is it just me?  Seems like more re-runs, less real time international market and news coverage?  More banality of evil?

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:51 | 734650 Brindle702
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I couldn't find any televised market(s) news Sunday afternoon on any channel ... had to go Internet to find out how the world's week was going to open.  What would the motivation behind that be? Can't afford potentially catastrophic news to be viewed too early in the US?  Ratings?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:34 | 734845 knukles
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Ratings?  Puzzles me, for I just cannot believe that another hour re-run of Cramer,Fast Money or other ilk on BBG is attracting any viewers.  Might as well put on Whazhername Osmond to sell diet drugs for all I care.

The alternative sounds just way too Conspiracy Theory crap (No, I am not a conspiracy theorist; a lot of it's fun for shits and giggles and some is indeed insightful stuff that the MSM aka tabloid media won't cover.) that the gubamint is trying to dumb the public down in order to enhance the efficacy of the PPT, QE's etc.  But what with alternative delivery mechanisms.... 

Who TF knows.  
My own mark my words I can see it coming right now they'll regret it take is that the more of it they do, their audience will dissipate like an exponentially decaying function.

One of the Muddled King of Insight is rumored to have once mused something like; "You're either on the bus or off the bus." 
I either go to that media player or not.
Like the NY Times.  Many years ago, I was amongst the avid readership.  As time passed, the Op-Ed page migrated to the news columns and I deserted.  I know when there' something wrong, when standards diminish, when I'm being treated as sheeple. 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 18:00 | 735886 Brindle702
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Set aside conspiracy for the sake of argument.  Going down the path of Dumbing Us Down: Events are censored by not televising them.  Some people (sheep) will get lost at this point because they can no longer get their news via TV.  This will drive the rest to alternative media.  I can't see this working for the oligarchy.  The oligarchs will not be able to control the spin.  The displaced group will be getting their news from the uncensored alternative media.  My guess is that the oligarchs are reducing the set of people who's brains have heard the news and are trying to resolve it with what they experience.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:53 | 734400 sporb
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Don't worry - you guys will be fine!

(Note to self: start building giant fence to keep the US economic refugees out of Canuckistan.)

 

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:01 | 734439 Bananamerican
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hey Sporb, can ya chill on that for two years or so?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:53 | 734402 RobD
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DXY just dropped of a cliff, what happened?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:57 | 734415 bob_dabolina
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POMOS for HOMOS

Natural response when you print billions of dollars day after day, after day, after day. Those dollars eventually get into the market.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:01 | 734441 Pladizow
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30bps is a cliff?

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:08 | 734474 RobD
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LOL, not really, but when I wrote that it had not bounced back yet.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:28 | 734564 Cognitive Dissonance
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All boobs bounce. Except the surgically enhanced and cement filled.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:18 | 734761 bugs_
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Even the non-cement filled ones can hurt your jaw and stop a bullet

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:30 | 735373 Thanatos
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There are documented cases of both TMJ from sucking enhanced breasts obsessively and Silicone (couldn't find one that used saline) based boobs stopping small caliber (.25 and .380) rounds.

True.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:54 | 734403 Dr. Engali
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We have been trying to get our house refinanced for almost a year now. These basturds come back with the same thing....."one more document". We have a stack of papers almost 6 inches thick we have sent them and we still get the same response....."one more document". Lying pieces of shit.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:36 | 734599 unwashedmass
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there's probably no "vig" involved from the government for them. so, why bother? Plus, you might end up defaulting, in which case, they get a house. let's face it, these guys aren't even trying any more to hide the fact that they are predators.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:48 | 734645 Bring the Gold
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No no, you mean PARASITES, not predators. Predators can provide creative destruction, these guys just slowly weaken and kill the host. 

 

Ok maybe not slowly anymore.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:24 | 734778 ToNYC
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White man have forked-tongue, Kemosabe. You didn't care when they came for us. Now it's your Tribe's turn to row harder or GTFOOT.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 14:44 | 734882 Thanatos
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Hahahaha!

That is FUNNY!

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 15:19 | 735030 sgt_doom
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They're probably just biding their time until their regular thug team is available to do a home invasion on your domicile.

They hate to spread their ill-gotten gains around, so instead of simply employing more American thugs, or illegals, they're putting you guys on hold.

Sorry for your condition.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:39 | 735430 SwannDog
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Are you with Chase?  Look at how easy it was for these nice folks...

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1010...

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:54 | 734408 Rainman
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The truth seeker gets shuffled out. The liar gets courtesy. Situation normal.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:57 | 734412 goldmiddelfinger
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While the leprechaun corrupto- master presides

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:00 | 734433 furieus
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Situation Normal alright... A.F.U.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:56 | 734416 Haywood Jablowme
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somebody needs to smack that "smirk" off that fucking empty suit at 0:56...

 

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:59 | 734687 oddjob
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He needs some facetime with sweet lady brick.

Thu, 11/18/2010 - 06:50 | 737202 snowball777
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I'd recommend the next protest involve blown-up pics of this asshole with a headline of "You Want Some Too?"

http://www.businessinsider.com/allen-stanford-beaten-up-2010-11

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:56 | 734418 bigking12345
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The banks used the same tactics on homes as they did with IPO's, they kept the prices up so they could flip them over and over and over, and a few suckers got stuck at the top.

Thu, 11/18/2010 - 06:51 | 737204 snowball777
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Ah yes, everyone's favorite fucktard is sharing the same damn link for the 30th time.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:58 | 734424 Ruth
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I also loved when Atty. Diane Thompson read her opening remarks the audience cheered!!!  and Dodd yells, "This is not a rally! It's a hearing!"   LOVE IT!

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:09 | 734481 earnyermoney
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If only the gallery would have responded to Dodd's remark with a Jump You F**ckers, chant.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:14 | 734501 Dr. No
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At least a page from the British protesters: "F*cK FEES!!"  That gets peoples attention.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:58 | 734425 Cone of Uncertainty
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I love it how he picks up right where he leaves off, never missing a beat, never flinching, never blinking a fucking eyelash.

Go to hell sir.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:59 | 734426 Ripped Chunk
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Removed from the premesis!  

Guess Mr. Marks has never been to Kabuki Theater at it's highest performance level: US Congress

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:04 | 734449 rapacious rachel wants to know (not verified)
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I'd say that was a little less cordial than Lowman was used to.

Thu, 11/18/2010 - 06:56 | 737207 snowball777
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Then we'll make sure to be very polite when we put his head in the noose.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:04 | 734451 TruthInSunshine
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That's not postal.

 

This is postal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2wD5TaMf2k&feature=related

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:05 | 734458 RobotTrader
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XLF is still dead.

Wonder what catalyst it will take to move this POS..

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:06 | 734464 buzzsaw99
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Perjury is not a crime if you are Chase Home Finance.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:32 | 734587 TuffsNotEnuff
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Google [ george anderson florence cioffi ] -- where the boys learned that criminal law does not apply to them. Nothing beyond a wrist slap.

"A Tale of Two Cities" redux. The carriage scene.

And this Chaser at the hearing doesn't even throw out a gold coin.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:06 | 734465 smashmouth football
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Pitchforks, bitchez.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:06 | 734468 Hook Line and S...
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Heavy feeling now in the solar plexus. Almanac open with Uruguay content in front.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:45 | 734470 Village Idiot
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Can you say - Hornady?  (precision ammunition)

 

EDIT:  I salute the man for his act of disobedience.  We need more of it.  Where is the organizational spark going to come from?  I am ready, but don't have the skills or focus to get it rolling.  Who does?  Please stand up and lead - I am with you.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:11 | 734478 Dr. No
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This so typical.  None of the panel members or banks talking heads have their jobs on the line.  All they want is a nice quiet, civil, and televised, hearing so they can look like they are solving problems.  If someone disrupts their little show, they are wisked off to another room and after things quiet down, all the suits shake their heads at the disrupter as if they are so savage. "how dare he disrupt all the good we are doing with this scripted hearing!?" 

Reminds me of the closing scene in "Spies like us", as WWIII is on the brink, missles in the air, the two CIA analysts sit in thier comfortable chairs (in suits), and eat oreo cookies and milk, as if they are watching a TV show; content not to stop the events.

 

EDIT: the events in which THEY caused.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:15 | 734506 ackbar
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-We need a plan.

-Let's play dead.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:20 | 734524 Dr. No
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Thanks for the bruises and you can keep the stool samples....

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:08 | 734479 Buttcathead
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Sit Down and Shut Up !!!  We're trying to run a Ponzi schem you stupid peasants !!!

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:13 | 734484 Bob
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Dodd: "Let us hear the witnesses" (sic).

What a cocksucker. 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:11 | 734486 EvlTheCat
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Testimony??  Right Dudd.  The only person I have any respect for, in that room, is the man who they dragged out telling the truth!

It reminded of a cheesy Italian future movie called Escape 2000.

 

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:13 | 734493 Orly
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Rock on!

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:15 | 734505 buzzsaw99
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I wish that guy they threw out was sitting in Dodd's chair watching Dodd get dragged out by the scruff.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:16 | 734509 moofph
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...disgusting to see, disgusting to realize, but, then again, tyranny has its day before it is removed. congress can't be so naive to think this is all acceptable...and forclosure funds will not buy-off much more than your naivete.

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:17 | 734513 phat tails
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We are sharpening the guillotine you MOTHERFUCKERS!!! Can't wait to see the look on your face when it hits the bucket!

Wed, 11/17/2010 - 13:18 | 734517 erik
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People are slowly (finally) starting to get pissed off enough to demonstrate.  That is welcome news.

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