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NATO Running Out Of Ammunition In Libya "Oil Liberation" Campaign
Where does one even start with this one: US launches air campaign against oil rich country under pretext of humanitarian intervention (while ignoring comparable events in Syria and Iran). US realizes it does not actually use Libyan oil, government runs out of money, hits debt ceiling, leading to decision to pull out of Libya after it is uncovered that CIA operatives had been laying the groundwork for a government overthrow for months, and a scramble to avoid Iraq deja vu ensues. US hands over military campaign to ragtag NATO force led by France. NATO "air superiority" force bombs rebel units; Libyan rebels lose previously held positions and oil wells. Libyan government on verge of repelling US and NATO forces, leading to... NATO runs out of ammunition. There is no point to even comment on this increasingly more surreal chain of events.
From Defense News:
NATO is running short of precision bombs and other munitions in its Libyan operation against the forces of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, The Washington Post reported April 15.
Citing unnamed senior NATO and U.S. officials, the newspaper said the shortage highlights the limitations of Britain, France and other European countries in sustaining even a relatively small military action.
The shortage of European munitions, along with the limited number of aircraft available, has raised doubts among some officials about whether the United States can continue to avoid returning to the air campaign, the report said.
So far, the NATO commander has not requested their deployment, The Post noted.
But several U.S. military officials said they anticipated being called back into the fight, the paper said.
Currently, only six out of 28 nations are conducting air strikes, while France and Britain carry out half of them. The other half are conducted by Belgium, Denmark, Norway and Canada.
Bottom line: this whole "plan" has been a total disaster from the beginning. And good luck Obama trying to sell a repeat US incursion in what even the idiot electorate now sees through as nothing than another Bush-like attempt to extract oil and implement Halliburton as the chief executive authority. That particular record has already been played.
h/t Themos Mitsos
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this blog was going downhill but you just posted something so I suspect we've reached the nadir. Your post = blog green shoots.
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Okay. We know cartels control oil, gold, drugs, food, raw materials, money supplies...what the hell can we do about it??
Drink till you die. Thats my plan.
Sounds good...
So Gaddafi tricked the rebels into taking over his largest ammo dump then the rebels; sensing a trap; called an air strike on their own position. But the Americans supplied the British with defective planes disguised as Russian Migs flown by rebels from the Black Dragon Society; which the rebels shot down using the shoulder launched missiles they stole from Syrians who bought them from the Russians who reverse engineered them from the Americans. Every thing is going exactly to plan. It only looks like chaos. Cue the Thunderbirds!
makes sense now that you put it all together.
And when they decide to take revenge in the UK, Paris and NY, people will realize that we shouldn't have gone on this humanitarian..cough...I mean this sweet crude mission.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmktjLzRE7s
So, they're running out of precision munitions?
Well, let those French and British pilots get down on the deck in the face of those Vietnam-era antiaircraft weapons and demonstrate their esprit de guerre using regular old Mk-82 iron bombs and 2.75" FFARs instead.
Worked in WWII, Korea; the Argentinians sank several British ships with no laser-guided weaponry at all.
No, no, no. You miss the point. Do you know what the profit margins on "dumb munitions" is? That old stuff is only for serious fighters. What was it that Giap said, "Hold them by the belt". Works every time.
Hilarious - the bankers in control of the west cannot bear to make sacrifices to their interest paper extraction mechanism and so will starve their protectors of munitions.
These Pigmen are beyond swinish.
Greed is their weakness.
double post
Actually, it may have been worth a second reading...
Orly , they should bomb them with bonuses
The french have always thought they are better than what they are.
they can send a tank crashing through a presidential compound in the Ivory Coast,
but they cannot run a war even against a third world country. They don't have the
resources. I hate how the french use us. they complain about our military spending
and out of control deficits, then they beg us to finish a job they started after they
realize they aren't willing to pony up the resources to finish the task.
Is this the first Gonzo war? War as camp? Satire?
The Onion war.
And sometimes we're stupid enough to acquiesce to their requests, i.e. French Indochina.
The only way any of this makes sense is when you realize that the US has a war economy and must always have fresh, new, and exciting wars to fight. Whether the US wins is immaterial. The economy and the defense contractors have been enrichened, and that's all that matters. After all, it's not their kids who are getting killed and maimed.
at least when the media aint allowed to show body bags and coffins comeback from iraq and afganistan.
...but the hits keep on coming.
Except now the public thinks of this record like Disco in the 80's. If that's not clear enough, think Bill Veeck and Disco demolition night style.
Disco still sucks.
"The shortage of European munitions, along with the limited number of aircraft available, has raised doubts among some officials about whether the United States can continue to avoid returning to the air campaign, the report said."
Thus exposing the complete farce of US "coalitions." As of Mar 23, 2011:
US Tomahawk inventory - 3440 (minus 150 fired at Libya) - 4% of inventory
UK Tomahawk inventory - 64 (minus 12 fired at Libya) - 19% of inventory
double post
libyans killing libyans. man we sure make it easy for "them" don't we? operation chaos in full mode now, project for the new american century underway with all systems go. watch carefully my friends. coming to a theatre near you and I perhaps, sooner than we think.
Is this what war has come to? I thought the idea has always been that war is a last resort, but if that is what you do resort to, then put in 110% and annihilate the enemy completely and utterly so that you don't have to repeat again in a few scant years. This entire .... exercise... whatever they are calling it today, has been pathetic at best; walking through the motions if anything. Why are we bothering?
the longer war last, the more useless eaters are killed and the more money certain individuals in the military industrial complex , make, after all, what are we about anymore? the only thing we make is war material', correct? read the project for a new american century. it was planned long ago. they want chaos in all of this arab states. they used these "leaders" if you will, to keep the people down for a long time. now it is time to change out the bath water. its all about israel and water and hegemony in the middle east and lastly maybe about oil, but no so much , not really. one day, soon perhaps, american will kill american over some reason that really doesn't matter that much. if you remember the old star treck show that used to come on the boob tube, one time the star trek crew were abducted by some unknown force and taken to a planet, they and their arch enemies , and of course what happened, they started fighting and as they fought the unknown force increased in power. suddenly they all realized they were being used for a purpose. this unknown force gained its sustenance off of war and conflict and death and destruction. so the Klingons and the Star Trek crew members decided to cooperate and quit fighting and they aligned themselves against this unknown enemy and as they did, the unknown force being became so weak, that it departed the planet and in so doing its power to keep them there were diminished and they returned to their prospective space ships. gee, i wonder where the script writers got the idea for this episode? one might make a estimated guess, since star trek was filled with signs from the kabbalah......
yeah, HPD, but no Madonna in brass cone-titties!
Sephirot Fi, bro!
no, now we have lady gaga. as long as someone provides filth to destroy the culture he or she is advanced. if someone has something important to say, they are relegated to the place where no one knows and no one sees and the sheep don't understand it, but keep lapping it up. we must accept that we have enemies inside the gates and we must deal with them in a most harsh manner before they do the same to us. but getting the sheep to accept this, is a major task. how do you teach skills to a tribe that for so long have been told they cannot do it? for too long we have been feminized and have accepted this fait thrust upon us, without so much as a whimper of argument. but the pendelum must swing and maybe it will. one might examine eccesiastes 3 where the solomon, king of israel said, sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do.
in this tarot game, autonomy is frequently victory. that said, i would say we are pretty much lookin at sitting tight right now, in the sense of responsible legitimacy. defensive posture. stack arms.
please be advised. we all do what we choose to do, and although each is separate, no one is alone.
"That particular record has already been played."
It's a jukebox, the same record has been playing since Korea. Just put another quarter in and hit the button, dammit.
Pretty much rooting for Kaddafi at this point. Before I didn't care but now that the U.S. is blatantly trying to steal their oil while lying their ass off I hope he can hang in there. Wonder how many other Americans are hoping he wins out. Bet if you took an honest poll the number would be shockingly high. Doesn't matter though. They bomb anyone they please whenever they please whether it's against the constitution or the will of the people. If their is shit to be stolen we will bomb it and steal it. Shit. Donald Trump came right out today and said he would go in and take their oil. Then he paused and said I'd give their people all they needed too. What a fucking humanitarian! Hey Donald! They already have all the oil they want and then some. Why do they need your greedy ass coming in and taking the 95% of it that they export. No wonder your such a great business man when your not between declaring bankruptcies.
'you're' rooting for someone intentially firing on civilians?
i'm rooting for neither.
If that was true then we should see civilian casualties in the high thousands, not the "hundreds" published so far.
Besides - "we" sort of set a precedence in that area with the drone attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan killing thousands of random bystanders every year. So, Ghaddaffi and whoever else should also be entitled to whack a few thousands as well, before it must be considered a bad thing by the "international community".
I hope we lose too. Globalisation sucks to begin with and this idea of war as the first and only solution to every problem - except when the problem has a decent air defence and powerful friends - it is what Bin Laden would do and it deserves a humiliating takedown.
Hopefully the failure will be epic enough to kill of that dinosaur Nato also.
Quick, hide, it's those pesky blue helmets again.
Funny to see how so many Americans seem to hate Europe.
I wonder how many form this blog actually been here.
ps: I don't need to know these few cases who do and found a reason why to hate it.
You would only sound like those muslims visiting the US and deciding to bomb it.
Because they like to remember that they escaped from countries wrecked by war, depraved elites, central banks and high taxes. oh wait...
I lived in Europe and I could care less about it either way. But the Brits did play a mayor part in Enron, the derivatives scandal and the pollution of the gulf coast, so I might start to feel less inclined to like them.
I have no particular *hate* for them, but you really have to feel a bit of contempt for a leader like Sarkozy who rushes into war without a clear objective, without any consideration of logistics and with the naive belief that it's possible to bomb a dictator out of office.
You know what I'd be thinking if I were Ghadafi? I'd be planning a massive airstrike on Sicily. Show NATO it isn't the only one capable of nasty surprises.
Ghawar! Ghadaffi should hit Ghawar instead and burn the oil!! The Oil is sacred to "The West" so it will be like us bombing Mekka and, more impotantly, it will brick the financial market where all the funding for the war machine is generated!!!
Hadn't been for the French, we would have lost the Revolution. Hadn't been for the Russians, we would have lost the Civil War.
Look it up.
We need to think in the here and now. None of these bankers are on your side. None of them. It is us against Them on a global scale. Get used to it and forget about what language the guy next to you speaks, as long as he is in the foxhole sweating bullets along with you.
Wasn't the Civil War lose-lose?
We did lose the Civil War. We had to keep the South.
the last war
will be fought
with sticks and stones ...
long rocks ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bjBAez9cm4&feature=related
"Staying alive is the secret to life."
as zeroHeads know, slewie has bet on the moQ since sarkozy's first psychosis. ...and doooowwwn the strrretch they cooome!
my $20 on the moQ may pay $55 soon! who knows what will happen, next? the last moQ report, he was ridin around tripoli in an open jeep, hi-fivin his peeps and still wearing the same damned hat!
this, a week after tyler put up the video of the CIA guy telling the 2 talkin va-jay-jays that the goobermint was broke and they should pull their MSM heads out pretty freaking soon, for pete's sake!
french leadership! still the funniest phrase of 2011!
now that the "UN coalition" has blown the shit outa their own bankster-backed muslim brudder-hood hoods, yes, the correct fini is to declare victory, get the fuk outa there, sue for peace, and pray that the moQ doesn't level Paris on july 14, in honor of bastille day!
- Why are we crazy?
Because you don't know
how to stay alive
and that's the secret of life.
But we have a war to win.
But America will lose the war.
Italy will win it.
America's the strongest nation
on earth.
The American fighting man
is the best trained,
the best equipped, the best fed...
Italy, on the other hand, is one
of the weakest nations on earth
and the ltalian fighting man
is hardly equipped at all.
That's why my country is doing so
well while yours is doing so poorly.
That's silly! First ltaly was
occupied by Germans and now by us.
- You call that doing well?
- Of course I do.
The Germans are being driven out
and we are still here.
In a few years, you'll be gone
and we'll still be here.
Italy is a very poor, weak country
yet that is what makes us so strong,
strong enough to survive this war
and still be in existence
long after your country
has been destroyed.
What are you talking about?
America's not going to be destroyed.
- Never?
- Well...
Rome was destroyed.
Greece was destroyed.
Persia was destroyed.
Spain was destroyed.
All great countries are destroyed.
Why not yours?
How much longer do you think
your country will last? Forever?
- Forever is a long time, I guess.
- Very long.
Listen to the next president:
http://saposjoint.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2663#p31841
I have a feeling the USA have to default soon, and with conviction, that can only be found in populist movements.
"We know how to prioritize budgets"
No Cowboy poetry anymore...No bullets for Libya.... No support for European wellfare, Europe has to pay for guns themselves?
between them, Palin, Trump, Paul(1 or 2), the outsiders can win enough electoral votes to send the election the House of Representatives, and then watch SHTF
Great story. But I am sure the orders have been made by NATO and the ammo factories will be humming in no time. After all this what war is for, jobs in ailing western economies. This will soon become a nonevent.
http://www.TheAngryGrapes.Com
So if NATO can't manage to scrounge up enough ammo to conduct a 'limited' operation against a viscious silly putz in the desert, what does that say about NATO's capability to deter, say, a Russian move on a few of its former territories? Mr. Putin must surely be saying "hmmmmmm"
I, for one, have always said those Russkies were highly under-rated since they "lost" the Cold War. Ha. Who's laughin' now?
That cat is already out of the bag: Putin & Co already whupped a Nato-specced force in Georgia with hardly any trouble at all. Hamas whupped the Israelis, proving that an US-specced army is not unbeatable either.
All we are doing with all this world improvement, peace keeping, half-assed interventionalism is showing weakness and teaching future enemies how to best defeat us. They fighting for real and are learning and adapting all the time while we are stuck with that logistics train which maximises corprat profits and job opportunities in the millitary.
respectfully asking for a link or source:"CIA operatives had been laying the groundwork for a government overthrow for months".NY times is not my idea of a "good source". The embassies don`t have that many people qualified to do what has been implied that the Agency has done to foment rebellion.It is too busy in Pakistan and elswhere to have an up to speed capability to do whats implied.I think the BOZO -in Chief was over his head fast from the gitgo and is now having to cover with more BS.
How about this one: US groups helped nurture Arab uprisings
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/world/15aid.html?_r=3&pagewanted=1&emc...
The liberal nuts at state controlled NYTimes no less, remember it's not news unless NYT says so.
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/neocon-plans-for-pakistan-exposed/
this is interesting. operation enduring turmoil........
They may have to print more money to buy ammunition. Before long we will target Gaddafi personally. Americans will not care how illegal immoral or expensive the operation will be, as long as it succeeds (Bin Laden still at large, but when Bush caught Saddam, and swung him from a rope he bought a lot of votes) Europe doesn't know how to make this kind of culture war, and they have millions of muslim immigrants, they cannot afford to inflame their passions. So its down to the US, down and dirty, and that means tactical nukes, (done on the QT and if some radiation shows up on some monitors around the globe it must be from Japan) It would be better to publically hang Gaddafi, rather than put him on trial, but blowing him to smithereens will have to do. That is the new real politik
Err - Europe invented the crusades.
And is it not always the US who comes around bombing in Europe whenever we get around to some ethnic cleansing again?
Besides, Nobody here fears the muslims - except our politicians who are so obviously bribed by the saudi's to always help The Muslim Cause whatever the cost and difficulty in doing so. What Europeans actually fear is that at some point in the future the muslims, as they have always done through the entire European history, will try to start something and then a real nationalist movement will rise to power and the muslims will go the same way as the Jews - Up the chimney - along with a lot of freedoms and rights that we presently rather like. Now, that would be nasty and everyone here would rather be at the beach, enjoying their six weeks of holiday (hah - suckers), and drink beer.
The US could not organise a piss-up in a brewery, the brazen incompetence of the Obama administration truly shines when the US even bothers to get involved with a piss-ant place like Libya and then would have to nuke it to "win" ... what exactly??.
Hey Laughing Boy, no bullets left!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylqEN7J3GLA&feature=related
Kill the wabbit: best cartoon ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQlmXU1zqfc
There are only three C&C shops in the continental United States that can manufacturer certain critical beryllium components of Cruise Missiles.
General Dynamics who manufacturers the cruise missiles owns one of them, but the shop is not able to produce these new critical components without specific authorisation from the DoD and Federal Authorities regarding technology transfer laws when selling to foreign governments.
Haven't seen any info that there is going to be a ramp up of production of these parts.
SO as of now I believe Obama is not seriously considering maintaining the stocking levels of advanced air to ground missiles in the US arsenal.
He's eating the seed corn to avoid spending any money on defense costs, while using the DoD as his personal Praetorian Guard on an whimsical expedition abroad.
He's eating the seed corn to avoid spending any money
And there you have Obama who's made it clear he's a Marxist "redistribute the wealth (corn)" moron. Complete ignorance and disregard for where the wealth (corn) came from.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money
Margaret Thatcher
Can't spend money on bullets or batteries, those hundreds of billions in unaudited DARPA CONtracts are much more important ... STUPID FUCKS!!!
+1
OT:
The Obama administration said today that it’s moving ahead with a plan for broad adoption of Internet IDs despite concerns about identity centralization
Ran outta bullets in Op LOL. Fitting.
These damn Idiots cant even shut down the rouge thug gangs that kill at will on our own border, Mexico..I say we get our neighbors in line first before we start anything else anywhere..
Does the American population even get it that the west has started a war without ANY discussions in congress? Bush was a choir boy compared to Obama, but of course Obama is just a meat puppet, totally remote controlled by the power that be. There are always countless civil wars going on and they are non of our business, but the MSM somehow makes us believe that its our job to remove Gadaffi. What if Putin thought it would be right to remove Obama? Same thing... think about it.
Everybody is afraid to talk about it. When I bring it up at work people are very uncomfortable. It went from tinfoil hat theories to reality. They understand that this war is not constitutional in any way, but even the Senators and Congressmen are afraid to speak out, example, Lugar said he should have asked Congress. Not it is unconstitutional, he should have asked. Only Rand and Ron Paul are speaking out at all, with DeMint a little etc. The RINOs of course are on board, they are with the bankster program.
They all seem to be in shock, esp. with Japan events. We all know the economy is not doing good, and never recovered. They are not idiots, nor ignorant of events, they just don't know what to do for the most part. Of course, it does not help that most of my co-workers live from paycheck to paycheck.
I am many things, but afraid is not one of them. In Carter times, I lived in the back seat of my junk car, in February, in the factory parking lot, in Chicago. I survived. In the Army I lived like shit most of the time outside, jungle, city, mountains, desert, etc. I got my skills, I got my Ag, Au, Pb and delivery devices, got some protein. Bring it on.
From Genesis to RevelationThe next generation will be hear me
All thats missing is a major natural catastrophe and we will all be living like in the movie The book of Eli. Not a very pretty picture...
Congressman Dennis Kucinich certainly has not kept quiet about the Nobel Peace Prize winner's act of war against Libya. Kucinich should be taken more seriously.
http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=234894
Contact: Nathan White (202)225-5871 Kucinich Responds to Office of Legal Counsel’s Twisted Rationale for Libyan War“Positively Orwellian”
Washington, Apr 8 -
WASHINGTON, D.C. (April 8, 2011) -- Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) today released the following statement responding the Office of Legal Counsel’s opinion regarding the President’s authority to use military force in Libya:
In the legal memo provided by the President’s Office of Legal Counsel, the Administration argues that the President had the authority to attack Libya absent Congressional authorization because he determined it was in the national interest and because the U.S. is engaged in limited military operations that do not constitute a war.
The war in Libya is not in our national interest. The claim that the U.S. had to act in Libya in order to maintain stability in the region – “a vital U.S. interest” – runs contrary to the history of U.S. military intervention in the region. As evidenced by U.S. intervention in Afghanistan, Iraq and drone bombing campaigns in Pakistan, rather than maintain stability, U.S. military action in the region has unfortunately served to further instability. Occupations fuel insurgencies and close a circle of never-ending violence. Additionally, the doctrine that the U.S. has a responsibility to act militarily, without prior authorization from Congress, in the event of a threat to any of our friends in the world puts us on a path to permanent war and has no legal basis in the Constitution or the War Powers Act.
The Obama Administration has prosecuted a war that is “not a war.” The assertion that U.S. military actions in Libya do not constitute war belies the significant use of military force in Libya. The Administration’s own Secretary of Defense, while testifying before Congress last month, admitted that enforcing a no-fly zone in Libya was an act of war: “A no-fly zone begins with an attack on Libya to destroy the air defenses.”[1] The United States, thus far, has spent well over $550 million on the war in Libya, using at least 112 long-range Tomahawk cruise missiles, estimated to cost up to $1.5 million each, in the first day alone. The U.S. also used Joint Direct Attack Munitions – 2,000 pound bombs – to bomb Libya. The characterization of the use of force in Libya solely as a humanitarian intervention cannot hide the reality of what war is. The attempt to assert that this is not a war does violence to cognition and violence to the English language. It is positively Orwellian.
The Administration also claims that authority to use U.S. military force abroad was provided by United Nations Security Council Resolution (UNSCR) 1973, which authorized member states to “take all necessary measures” to protect Libyan civilians and to enforce a no-fly zone. The Constitution does not provide an exception for the President to unilaterally decide to use military force abroad if an international body, such as the United Nations, provides him with one. It is unequivocally clear, in Article 1, Section 8, that the power to authorize the use of military force or to declare war lies solely with Congress.
The law provides the President with the authority to use military force absent prior Congressional authorization only to repel sudden or imminent attack. There was no threat of sudden or imminent attack to the United States from Libya. President Obama himself recognized the constitutional limitations imposed on any U.S. President when, in an October 2008 interview, he stated that “The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”[2]
In the sophistry of the Office of Legal Counsel’s memo, the Obama administration fails to justify what cannot be justified. While the President has argued that the credibility of the United Nations (U.N.) was at stake if members of the Security Council did not act, it is actually the credibility of his administration and of our own democracy that is at stake. Preserving the credibility of the U.N. has never been a reason to go to war. A plain reading of the U.S. Constitution explicitly places war powers in the hands of Congress.
In this flimsy attempt to justify military action in Libya, it appears as though the administration is taking scissors and scotch tape to the Constitution, cutting out sections they do not like, and replacing them with legal theory that is reminiscent of the now discredited theories (of a former administration) which were used to justify torture.
[1] Sanger, David E. and Shanker, Tom. (2011, March 2). “Gates Warns of Risks of No-Fly Zone.” The New York Times, online. Accessible: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/03/world/africa/03military.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1.
[2] Savage, Charlie. (2007, December 20). “Barack Obama’s Q&A.” The Boston Globe, online. Accessible: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/CandidateQA/ObamaQA/.
Impeach him. I mean, it's not like he let a fat chick suck him off, but it's still pretty serious.
Let gas go to $5 to $10 a gallon.
In fact, I hope it does.
65-130 dollar (for compact cars) to 400-800 dollar (for dual tank 1/4 and 1/2 ton pickups) fillups (not to mention 1.5-3 grand to fill up a diesel tractor trailer) should pretty much guarantee a populist revolt, and I'll take mine any way I can get it after waiting upon the Sheeple, and not seeing the slightest rage at far more serious (but less visible on a daily basis) transgressions and crimes against America.
The sooner this were to happen, the sooner everything breaks down, and we get demand destruction of a proportion that should have happened a long time ago, that takes down the prices of most commodities by percentages that create purchasing power through deflation, so that a middle class can re-emerge that is able to provide proper food, shelter, education and health care for their children on a one-wage income.
Seeing that same populist rage take out a bunch of the existing Fed Reserve imbeciles and U.S. politicans, not to mention seeing Obama's re-election chances go up in smoke faster than Jamie Dimon lights a cigar with a Benjamin Franklin would just be the sweetener.
NEWS OF THE DAY:
The Saudis say they cut oil production by 800,000+ barrels per day in March
Not 500K. 830K.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/17/us-saudi-oil-idUSTRE73G14020110417
04-17 16:38: Saudi oil minister market is ‘oversupplied’ with crude, Bloomberg reports
I have to go with the Saudis on this.
The world is awash in oil.
The high price isn't demand driven. It's a betting parlor pursuit because of central bank, and particularly The Bernank's Central Bank, policy of ZIRP.
Absurd. There is no betting parlor.
If they wanted to sell oil for $90/barrel, they could, regardless of what NYMEX says.
They sell for what they can get, and they can get more and more, and NYMEX doesn't dictate to either them or the refineries that buy from them, what to pay.
LOL they are lying every second of the day.
It only works when you can tell the truth most of the time and lie occaisonally but we have them forced to lie night and day.
Maybe they should consult the Taliban on how to run an effective campaign on the cheap.
soon egypt will be attacked by gaddafi's forces and egypt will be forced to deploy to protect the innocent egyptian population. or something like that.
oil to $150+ then a melt down of the econ, thats my prediction
George Will on TV News Sunday morning said this Libyan invasion is more incompetent (and worse) then the Bay of Pigs. he said we should not be there is my understanding. He aslo said we even have no idea whom the rebels are.
That's what he said.
Uh. Hillary Clinton needs to resign. Throw that bitch under the bus, Obamunists!
I'm with you TruthInSunshine - any way we get there is good. Even better than $10/gallon gas would be no gas. Then no food in stores. Whatcha gonna buy with those food stamps when there's no food to buy? OOhh - we are pissed now. Then people would actually have to learn to cook rice and beans, if they happened to have any - no more fast food. Stomping our feet now. Then grandpa croaks because 911 can't roll. Boo Hoo. Now I'm sad and mad. Pretty soon thereafter (and I mean very soon) health care would have to be rationed - unavailable at any price without a permit - docs and nurses can't get to work. At some point the only vehicles on the road would be the 'official' ones, and boy wouldn't they make dandy targets. And then comes winter. Brrr. Then of course Hugo Chavez will step in and say - you folks want a little gas? Maybe some heating oil? Here's the deal.... Bring it on.
Ghadaffi El Akbar!!!!!!!
I am for Ghadaffi fuck those NWO satanists using Depleted Uranium ammo which is a crime against humanity. Look what they’ve done in Iraq.
The enemy of my biggest enemy is my friend.
The libyan rebel or should I say rats ? http://youtu.be/_n9N6E-n_hE
CNN Segment On Libya Titled The New World Order http://youtu.be/4wXDyiZvnQo
Libya only produces 1.7 Million barrels a day the world uses 88 Million barrels a day so the the question emerges; What is the real reason for this Libyan adventure?
Ghadaffi and Mubarak didn’t want to stand behind an Iran attack, that’s why they had to go and at the same time it’s directed to China and North Africa as a whole. Every country who dears to be independant of the New World Order central banking system is attacked.
In the bought an payed of media Libyans are dipicted as poor victims while in reality Ghadaffi has done more for the people than most other dictators around. OK, Ghadaffi is a dictator but not the worst one and far better than the dictatorship of the New World Order itself squeezing the people to death economicaly and as an result of that literally.
There are now only 5 nations on the world left without a Rothschild controlled central bank: Iran; North Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya.
If you're not crazy. The rothchilds will make every effort to facilitate you're decent into craziness.
Ghaddafi should make saturday night live style mock videos of every state of the union speach and release them on the internet.
Pant suit is flying around the world on a banker "humanitarian mission."
Egypt has been taken out, Libya is now playing by the rules. Keep Libya ruler in place for time being. Create media confusion within US TV viewers.
2009
http://www.africanloft.com/gaddafi-rigid-on-united-states-of-africa-project/
Pan- African
http://www.panafricanperspective.com/youtube_USofAfrica.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Africa
The silly US puppets have been exposed. No one wants to buy toxic instruments to fund African development projects.
Hillary Clinton.. Get your husband on the TV. He needs to tell the peasants that Bin Laden is hiding in Africa. LOL.
The guy in my avatar is doing good and obama is not happy.
That is good.
A snappy dresser. Why can't our POTUS step out in some urban gear?
President Obama Disappointed With Lack of 'Cool' Phone in Oval Office
He got the best TOTUS Timmah could buy though........
"I'd rather have a German division in front of me, than a French brigade behind me"
~ General G. Patton
Glenn Beck: Re-establishing the False Paradigm, One Lie at a Time
liar glenn beck continuing on, doing his work for his god.........
http://www.truthistreason.net/glenn-beck-re-establishing-the-false-parad...
this thing called beck.........
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0426/entertainment-fox-news-simon-schu...
not only oil. Also gold. Libya's CB, the one that doesn't belong to hofjuden, had 145t of gold. I think it is more about Libya's gold and setting up new, hofjuden owned, CB than oil.
I wish Pant Suit would heey up and liberate that oil. We don't want a hydorcarbonian disaster. While she is at it she could teach them about Clintonian Cronyism.
she could care less about Libya, she wants the Persian Empire or whats' left of it. That is also what the Rand Institute wants. funny how these things come together.
Libya Rebels (pt4) Execute, Behead, Mutilate Gaddafi Army who Surrender! Where is CNN now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkcMgPsB3Gs
That’s stupid cause the best way to empower your oponent is to brutulize the war captives you made assuring that that rest of them will fight to the death and never surrender.
Hitler’s Blitz on London actualy highered moral to fight against the NAZI’s exactly the opposite of it’s objective to lower it.
Only the IMF can save us now.
Had to chuckle when the Brit sub fired off its 12 TLAMz and then had to rtb to rearm.
Winchester, bitchez.
- Ned
Speaking of Muslims in Europe. I flew into Heathrow from Sweden one night a couple years back. As I went through passport control I was confronted by a Muslim woman in head scarf. No she was not entering Britian, she was the pass port control officer.
And yes, she did give me a ration of shit about why I was entering Britain. She could not understand why I was entering for onoy one day. I told her I had a flight next moring to the USA and I would rather sleep in a London hotel room that night than bunk in the airport. She was not amused. After some ugly looks and a game of 20 questions she did let me through.
Had a long discussion today at the gun show with an ammo dealer.
He claimed that the Liybian thing was disrupting supplies (thus prices) from the contract manufacures.
Wolf 7.62x39 in particular was dry, but he assured me supply would be back in a few months.
What calibers make the best investment?
In military terms this is known as a:
SNAFU: Situation Normal, All Fucked Up
Gaddafi troops outflank rebels http://youtu.be/mllxd-Hiu7o
Ghadaffi El Akbar!!!!!!!
Libya Rebels (pt4) Execute, Behead, Mutilate Gaddafi Army who Surrender! Where is CNN now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkcMgPsB3Gs
That’s stupid cause the best way to empower your oponent is to brutulize the war captives you made assuring that that rest of them will fight to the death and never surrender. Hitler’s Blitz on London actualy highered moral to fight against the NAZI’s exactly the opposite of it’s objective to lower it.Our Dear Leaders should have listened to Sec Defense Gates who said it would be a mess. This is about oil for Europe and forstalling the European economic disaster.
Obama will try to hang it all on Hillary. The chosen one doesn't wear responsibility well for himself. If he recommends Gitmo for Gadhaffi hilarity will ensue.
BTW, funny how France and Spain were quick to condemn and ostracize the USA for the Iraq expedition. Now it's close to their key interests. But I don't judge. We have Gitmo, they still have Malta.
reminds me of catch 22 , where the drop ious for bombs, or is ious for parachutes?
what ever, here libya scum, 1 IOU for a complete ass kicking, take to any general dynamics dept store to collect.
WTF! Look at the sign at the lower right corner 3:40 into the clip.
Gaddafi troops outflank rebels http://youtu.be/mllxd-Hiu7o
Kill …
Destroy…
Burn…
& Rape…
???
Nothing to see there..... move along.
We should just use a paper derivatives market for warfare. Buy and sell death and casualty contracts instead of bothering with the hassle of physical.
My local WalMart keeps selling out of 45 ammo as soon as it arrives....but NATO?
Holy Mackerel!
What's the problem? Saudi's say the market is oversupplied.
Oil Market Is ‘Oversupplied’ With Crude, Saudi Minister Ali al-Naimi Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-17/oil-market-is-oversupplied-with-crude-saudi-minister-ali-al-naimi-says.html
Fack, I am so sick of hearing anything about England, including their pipsqueek military or their 'royalty' Bread & Circus.
I really had hoped the men of character and steely resolve that established the American Colonies would have broken future Americans of all pissy pomp and ceremony that made The Brits such a weak species, but alas, DWTS & Camelot proved otherwise.
We'd had been better off had we been closer to the cunning and resourceful criminals exiled to Australia - the Aussies may also have shed much of their grit over successive generations since their genesis in independence, but less so than their American counterparts.
did he just refer to me as the "idiot electorate"?
fuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lQviY4_Wjw&NR=1
Yeah that will be the new, "space pen" and the Russians just used a pencil,anecdote. And doesn't all the blood in the oil make it more expensive to refine?