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NBC's Meet The Press Concerned About Spread Of Disinformation On Internet
The Internet retorts that it is even more concerned by spread of disinformation by NBC/GE subsidiaries.
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Hahaha what a bunch of losers
Am I the ONLY one getting crazy math question twhose answers aren't accepted. OY, I DO know math!
Anonymous, you are not alone.
I use my scientific calculator. It's right every time, bu you have to know how to set up the problem :;)
Hey They are RIGHT!!!!
Look what I found out there on the world wide interweb!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INmqvibv4UU
Good find! Take that you mealy-mouthed corporate mouthpieces! lol
"the world wide interweb"
WTF; do we have to pay extra for that?
Poor guys. You spend all that money controlling the media and the collective conciousness and the internet goes and just screws it up.
"You spend all that money controlling the media and the collective conciousness and the internet goes and just screws it up."
So true, so, so true. All that needed to be said was in your one sentence.
I watched this clip, but I don't know if I can trust what they are saying because I watched it on the internet. Has this video been vetted?
Recursive legitimization failure? ROFLMAO.
HA!!! They are pwned by themselves?
Brokaw came closest to saying that everything needs to be filtered. I wish he would have used "television" as an example like the one he used for plasma tvs, etc.
yea as if everything that he has every created was flawless and unbiased information. what a hypocrite.
they feel threatened as they should
Main stream media and the corporate owners versus freedom lovers
They are scared shitless.
"Don't say any thing controvential. Don't think anything controversial." Thanks big brother! To me, he sounded like he was pleading and you're right, you can smell the fear across the wire.
you said it perfectly.
the internet? is that thing still around?!?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13991537/S778773-Rockefeller-Internet-Shutoff-...
Not if the rockefellers have anything to say about it. It may have to be shut off because people are responding to world events appropriately and not listening to the gentle lying tutilage of thier leaders.
Unfortunately literacy, comprehension, and critical thinking are dropping faster than information is spreading, so they don't really have anything to worry about until nobody wants to audition for Howie Mandel shows or American Idol.
That was rich. TF is a douche plain and simple. Added to the list of knobs to ignore.
"MARK IT ZERO,DUDE"
Well Yeah. I read on the internet (NYT) that there is a bastard in Iraq who has WMD's and is getting ready to blow up New York.
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Tom Brokaw said:
"...there is so much dis-information out there, that it's frightening frankly in a free society that depends on information to make informed decisions..."
was he referring to ZH or CNN? lol
"The internet is an open sewer of unfiltered information"
I find the implication that we need our information filtered for it to be any good hilarious. I'm sure Hitler, Stalin, and millions of their devoted followers would agree.
The best place to look for a counter-example is wikipedia... what is the % rate it's correct? And what is this compared to official sources? Pretty much blows everything out of the water...
Hell, what does he think about Obama's projections on the effect of stimulus with respect to unemployment? I think the administration is a heavily filtered sewer...
Absolutely. Just who would be in charge of "filtering" all that "sewer of ...information?" These guys really show just what their character is, and it's truly scary.
The mainstream media want to maintain their monopoly over disinformation.
Can we stop dignifying these people by calling them "mainstream." Nobody I know believes anything these guys say anymore and that includes my grandparents in their 80's. They have zero credibility with most people.
The term should be the "Closed Media" in contrast to the internet which is the "Open Media," as anyone can produce and distribute content. This would be a much more accurate classification.
Corporate media.
The internet is also open to corporations (as it should be), though. And nothing is keeping a corporation from stepping up and taking a more modern approach to content generation and distribution.
FCN for Fawning Corporate Media
Urinestream Media
U.S. Dept. of Information and Media
Last I heard GE was into the FED for over 130 billion dollars. Thats OWNED.
Beyond scared shitless:
- their ratings continue to deteriorate
- they are always getting scooped. Wait, that's not accurate, they may actually get the information earlier in some cases, but actively surpress it.
- Until, they can't, because of sites like ZH. Must be a bitch being front-runned by those goddamn anonymous bloggers, and then having to grudgingly report on things like HFT, etc way after the fact.
- In the deep of night, laying awake wide-eyed staring at the ceiling, it must hit them, "We're irrelevant". How can we compete with something that is real-time, interactive to readership, data instead of soundbites, hyperlinked to sources, additional background, etc. Fuck. The proletariat has access to all our secrets, they are getting better educated than we are. Fuck.
This is absolutely on the mark. The news companies are experiencing the same pains as the RIAA. What happens to your business model when you no longer control distribution? Move over do-do bird.
"smooth out the edges!"
classic Tom Friedflat.
wonder if him & his wife bought any GGP shares post-BK?
It's called freedom of speech and they have of problem with that why? Could it be because their salary depends on having a monopoly on information? Yeah, could be.
all your news cycle belong to us.
Kill your TV!
This is serious and really worrisome...
NBC/GE scrubbed snl skit form last year. Too close to the truth.....
http://blip.tv/file/1335294
all we need now is for obama to assemble an 'Internet Czar' team to determine who can or can't put out financial information on the internet. This team could be led by Larry Kudlow, Charlie Gasbagarino, Tom Brokaw, and Michele Caruso Cabrera Conchita Alonzo Gonzalez Fernandez. (did i say her name right?)
I suspect the czar is coming, in fact didn't I read about legislation that would give the govt control over the internet because of terrorist issues?
I'm more worried about the disinformation being spread by TV news, seems none of them wants to talk about the realities of the unemployment numbers.
The propaganda line to explain the unemployment numbers is that "it is going to be a jobless recovery" and that even with higher unemployment the economy is growing.
Yeah, like WTF.
What is growing in America is the rage and anger about the deceit, corruption and manipulation.
And that my friends is a commodity these clowns cannot drive up or down with HFT or other b.s.
We are fucked royally and the sentiment I'm experiencing is no different than the sentiment any guy would have felt before picking up the torches and pitchforks.
Turn off your TVs. Tell your neighbours to do the same. Don't tell the "block watch" captain what you're up to.
Tim.. should be Larry "Cokelow"....
That would be funny were it not for the fact that it is probably in the works.
What a bunch of deceitful, sanctimonious gasbags. What they fail to realize is America's middle class isn't taking any more for 'the team' when 'the team' is a bunch of banksters, deceitful media jerk-offs and scumbag politicians.
I have always liked the term "gas bag"
+10 The problem is that the new technology exposes them for what they are and calls them out within seconds of their continued bullshit.
There is nowhere to hide...they should check their facts.
One of the main hold backs to a true democracy....are advertising budgets with respect to voting in the political process....
Something soon that the internet will banish....
The old "advertising" to win by soundbytes and short productions ....and the ability to pay for votes will be over.....
Perhaps a truer democracy can actually be given a chance to exist....
BEHOLD THE INTERNET ....FREE OF CHARGE....
I think the shit is about to hit the fan
What shit and what fan?
Think of the fed as a bunch of zoo monkeys. Instead of a "golden goose," these monkeys shit united states dollars. They sit in a concrete cell, painted to look like reality. The cell has a fan because in the heat of the summer, those monkeys sure can use some air.
Well, sensing the futility of their situation, the monkeys do the only thing they know how... fling shit, everywhere... including the very fan that breathes them relief.
The shit that comes from being able to manipulate how people judge you to not being able to manipulate how people judge you.
The Pices/Virgo sword of discrimination is catching on fire.
The internet has become an effective tool of resistance. I expect they'll shut it down. Think of the deafening silence. What will happen to all the disbursed, solitary keyboard deviants? What will you do? What will they do to you? Where is this headed?
NTJ
....ambassador to Burkina Faso, arrogant piece of shit...
Where's my comment?
Again...
Brokaw is a compleat idjut.
If I want to know buy a TV or gadget or car or almost anything these days I find real peoples' experiences, yes "internet people", are worth so much more than what some bought out shill at consumer reports writes about said item. Epinions and Amazon reviews has saved me from buying a lot of POS consumer crap. If someone has a specialty blog or forums where people with real life expertise hang even better.
Blow Cow just said Don't trust whatever he said on the TV. Whatever he said was already filtered and simply cannot be trusted.
I ranted on it if you would like to read it.Click my link in the ZH blogroll. You may get a laugh out of it.
They are so pissed, they've lost their monopoly on disinformation...rofl.
EDIT (sorry I didn't see your post above brilliant)
Separately why do the econo blogs keep on linking to CNBC - I think we can all do without snippets of Dennis Kneale and his band of shills - send CNBS a message move to FoxBusiness and Bloomberg (they all get the same guests on rotation)
I implore you ZH and others - No CNBS.
Make ZeroHedge a CNBC free site
Thank God for NBC or WTF that station is.
Van Jones as a classic in what curious citizens armed with the same tools that the MSM should have used but refused can do. How stupid can you look when nobodies gobsmacked the MSM by vetting Jones as a Free Mumia supporter, a 9/11 Truther and foul mouthed racist on Youtube.
It's got to be very painful to our increasingly marginalized priestly journo caste that the Little Guy has turned the tables.
Van Jones as a classic in what curious citizens armed with the same tools that the MSM should have used but refused can do. How stupid can you look when nobodies gobsmacked the MSM by vetting Jones as a Free Mumia supporter, a 9/11 Truther and foul mouthed racist on Youtube.
It's got to be very painful to our increasingly marginalized priestly journo caste that the Little Guy has turned the tables.
But I heard it on the TV news.............
Wasn't it Talking Points Memo that discovered the e-mails between MTP/David Gregory and the office of South Carolina Governor, Mark Sanford in which; "MTP attempted to sell Sanford on the proposition that; "David Gregory, the host of NBC's Meet the Press. In courting Sanford's office, Gregory wrote that "coming on Meet The Press allows you to frame the conversation as you really want to."
Perhaps MTP/NBC/GE believes that since it was Brokaw that hosted this episode rather than Gregory everything changes on this score.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/nbcs_gregory_to_sanfor...
What about Tom Friedman's disinformation on the war in Iraq, or on economics in his book? As if that is not enough there is Judy Miller's disinformation on Iraq, both of whom worked for the same MSM newspaper. Next there are the wackos on cable with tons of political and economic disinformation. Let's not forget the radio talk show hosts ...
And these guys are worried about the Internet. Um-mm, sounds like that don't want any competition. Let alone honest debate.
Me, I rarely read the NY times anymore because of Miller and Friedman. There are lots of talk show hosts that I never listen to and CNBC what a joke.
Doesn't Foxnews have bigger ratings than most of the other TV news outlets COMBINED?
So, who is controlling the media exactly? Those with the lowest ratings?
hahahaha.. Don't trust them in the liberal media. BTW, we are #1 on cable.
Fact is that NewsCorp & GE are good friends and the majors, especially in TV/print conglomerates work very closely indeed and their fear is indicated by the actions that all of these outlets are undertaking looking closely at the who, what, when and where. I suspect that a major print outlet will attempt to start an "on the blogs" page before too long to both compete and undermine their competition as they fight for survival & relevancy.
I find it somewhat ironic ironic that we are supposedly vulnerable to misinformation on the internet but that we are not vulnerable to misinformation from our political leaders, teachers, churches, corporate heads, financial managers or anyone else who is considered to be socially acceptable and favorable to the interests of the United States of America. We are only vulnerable to the sewage of unfiltered information because we have spent our entire lives swimming in it. The internet is helping to undermine the "approved messages" that are floating on the surface of the sewage...
Hilarious....as I watched these guys it looked like a case of Old meets Stupid. Are they going to launch a jihad against gossip mags to spare Brad Pitt being asked about his status with Angelina?
Rumors are as old as language, unsubstantiated rumors can be spread in every imaginable communication medium. These whinyasses are just miffed there is a medium where they can't control the message.
They're half right.
Everything you read on the Internet has to be vetted twice.
On the other hand, everything you see on CNBC has to be vetted 4 or 5 times.
This makes me sick. The internet is the greatest invention of the last fifty years. It democratizes information. It frightens the elite be providing an opportunity for repressed voices to speak out. Can anyone imagine the access to information that would have been available to the masses were the internet to have been around before and during the Great Depression? We would have likely sacked the Federal Reserve and both politicla parties. And, that is exactly a possibility today. The internet is no different than life. There are sources of misinformation without the internet. That they have a broader voice now means what? The press is completely complicit in this economic collapse and now they have some competition for the minds of Americans. And because of that many news sources will not make it. That's called free choice. People no longer value Friedman and Brokaw and other mindless boobs who heretofore hoodwinked society. So, their answer? Lash out and attempt to marginalize those who threaten their establishment elitism. Who the f8ck are they to determine what is newsworthy? Society determines it. And because they aren't listening, they are paying an awful price. Democracy in action is GRAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"You see, according to NBC's plan I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think; I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder - "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I WANT high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon and butter and BUCKETS of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I want to run through the streets naked with green Jell-o all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener"."
In 2008 and into early 2009 the MSM defined themselves very clearly and forever as OLF's (Obama Lovin' Fools). They're now becoming cognizant of their own condition.
What a bunch of arrogant, condescending assholes.
This was my second thought, anon.
My first thought? Have they even considered taking a cold hard look at their MSM in the mirror???
If they truthfully have, they would be using that same information filter EVERYWHERE in the media.
Arrogant, condescending assholes.
Great comments by many.
Screw the MSM - let the free market work - starve the beast.
I can't believe no one's mentioned the Dan Rather GW Bush memos as an example of just how well MSM does fact checking. Dan was in denial for a week, even though bloggers were proving that it was impossible for Dan's "evidence" to be correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy
They are pulling out all the stops.
http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/142461
When are these clowns going to realize health care means squat if nobody has a job?
The traditional media outlets are increasingly irrelevant. It becoming painfully obvious that the news that they report is passed through numerous filters before reaching the public. Not just what they cover and how they present the story, but also in what they chose not to cover.
How many newspapers out there are primarily running wire stories? Who decides what is and isn't news?
ABC seems to be awful cozy with the White House. Each night MSNBC and Fox roll out Olbermann and O'Reilly to hurl shit at each other like monkeys in a cage, providing the legions of useful idiots with talking points. CNBC seems to be OK with Kneale presenting a moving average crossover as proof that the recession is over. Are you fucking kidding me?
Is it any wonder that people have to migrate to blogs and other non-traditional outlets to find out what is really going on?
They want you to believe that if you "read it in the New York Times" it is significantly more reliable --- sure. It pains them to see the distribution of information not being exclusively funneled through themselves. They are having a hard time controlling the news cycle.
The low to the ground shit weasels are starting to get desperate. No one is buying their game and the house of cards is collapsing.
"Every modem should come with a warning: judgement not included"
FUCK
YOU!
Buddy, you can take your 'judgement' and stick it where the sun don't shine. With an IQ at least double yours, I prefer to apply my own judgement and leave yours in the sewer where it belongs fuck you very much.
I'm pretty sure these guys used to design Walkmans (TM), I remember them sitting around the table bitching about CD players.
Oh Tom, you're my hero:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMxUzdep6p0
"It's not the questions that get us in trouble, it's the answers". Easy for you to say, when all of the questions were written up for you in advance by the White House Press Secretary.
"We're all in this together" - GE, Raytheon, MSNBS, etc.
I love your shopping metaphor, Tom. When I look for information I'm not looking to buy the best car or flat screen TV. Tom, I don't have to choose between Pepsi or Coke - I just don't drink soda.
If i comment you will think i am a drunk sailor.
This is a good video that shows how NBC's meet the press is used to spread disinfo:
http://www.betterbadnews.com/2007/05/01/rosie-odonnel-911-truth-video-si...
Donald Rumsfeld and Tim Russert are also seen admiring a detailed drawing of Osama Bin Laden’s advanced network of modern military caves in Tora Bora that never existed.
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