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New Debt Floated With Ease

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Yet another masterful feat of market guidance by Bernanke, Geithner, LLP, billions of new debt sold with ease at absurd low interest rates by chain-selling commodity stocks and buying dollars.

Never fails, whenever big batches of U.S. debt needs to be issued, Skynet runs its programs to ensure ideal market conditions where global "investors" dump virtually all risk assets and immediately "flee to safety" by buying gilt-edged, AAA-rated confetti.

No J-Lo bottoms to be found anywhere today, probably more selling tomorrow to give the Fed an excuse to continue "easy money" policies yet at the same time tell everyone that due to commodity price pressure, "we are viligent in controlling inflation expectations".

 

Then day after the FOMC, we usually get a meltup day to re-substantiate the Fed's credibility in being able to manage stock prices and the economy as well.

The only fly in the ointment for the O-Team is that the HMO stocks were strong today, suggesting that the Obamacare plan will fall flat on its face.

Now we wait for AMAT's results to see if the news is bought or sold, as the "AMAT train leaving the station" materializes.

Splinter and "Sunny" Jim Morgan were experts at spinning the v-shaped, second half recovery story.

I'm on the road today, so no girls to show.

However, if the SMH takes off any time soon, there will be plenty displayed.....

Tomorrow is a FOMC day, where millions of traders will be staring bug-eyed at the screens watching the 5-min. charts on virtually everything, and the Hi-Fi trading machines will be turned off temporarily and all stock trades will be in the hands of the 19-year old joystick experts.

 

 

 




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Tue, 08/11/2009 - 17:08 | Link to Comment Thurgy
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lmao.  They've all converted to the Wii controller now.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 17:46 | Link to Comment SV
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It's all about the force feedback..

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 17:13 | Link to Comment Veteran
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'I'm on the road today, so no girls to show.'

 

rotten bastard

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 00:15 | Link to Comment inflationary (not verified)
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 17:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 17:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 00:16 | Link to Comment inflationary (not verified)
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 19:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 20:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 22:30 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 07:41 | Link to Comment Chumly
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Well stated response....

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 12:05 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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Okay ... adding to base money isn't really inflationary when money multipliers are on life support ...

See ... money is created by banks when any loan is made. If a bank gives you a credit card with a $10000 limit, it has 'minted' $10000. It is based on nothing but your promise to repay with interest. All loans by banks - including the Federal Reserve - add up to the money supply. No loans, simply put means no money floating around. No liquidity means no funds for investments, consumer or house purchases.

Lending multiplies itself; a bank can lend multiples of the funds it has on hand as much as it feels the market for risk can bear. Because of changes in the law and reserve requirements, banks can lend the same $10000 over and over again, ten - twenty - thirty times. The borrowed money is also put into bank accounts - usually the same day it is borrowed - and also relent over and over. All expenses - including taxes and interest charges - are paid out of this mushrooming accumulation of lent funds.

Right now, the banks aren't lending very much. Some banks have insufficient reserves, others are unsure how much reserves are in the banking system and are becoming conservative, others see the borrowers 'walking away' from repaying loans and other borrowers are incapable of repaying. Consequently there is no money multiplication, this despite the Federal Reserve lending and borrowing.

The Fed lends to banks, the largest are borrowing @ 0% and speculating in the stock market. This provides a return that is impossible to beat, since the same Fed will buy as many stocks as are required to keep the stock market from selling off. This is noticeable since no other banks do this - in fact if they did, the risk of loss in the stock market would cause interest rates on bond/lending to rise, to properly price the related risk.

Put together, the Fed lending is inconsequencial compared to the lack of lending in the remainder of the banking system. As a consequence, there is little chance of inflation, which is when money multiplication gets out of hand. There are other factors involved- see Irving Fisher's 'Quantity Theory of Money' and check out velocity - another factor missing that means no inflation on the horizon.

When the Fed buys Treasuries, it is simply putting them in the closet for the future. By doing so, the Fed suggests to the bond market that the demand for Treasury bonds will always exist at a certain elevated level. In other words, if the 'real' buyers of bonds don't show up, the Fed will buy at a certain price to maintain that price. Since bonds - more than stocks - are containers of risk - what the price of money will be in the future - having the Fed buy Treasuries mis-prices risk.

As others here point out, this buying is a manipulation of a market, a market essential to properly pricing risk.

A large part of the 'Great Crisis' we are living has been the mispricing of risk. Securities (bonds) issued against mortgages given to speculators, dishwashers and ditch diggers to purchase 'luxury' homes were rated 'AAA' and sold at a debt- inflated high prices to unwary investors. Mispricing Treasury risk - as it stands in place of the rest of the economy - is simply more of the same mispricing. The big difference is when Bear Stearns or Wachovia fail because of mispriced risk, it isn't the end of the world, but when the Federal Reserve ... and the US government by extension fail ...

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. "

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 16:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 08/12/2009 - 07:41 | Link to Comment Chumly
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as well as this one too...

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 18:19 | Link to Comment Apocalypse Now
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RobotTrader- Do HFT SLP robots buy at the ask price or do they place bid orders?

If buying at the ask price, I would think this would bring markets up while buying by placing bid prices under ask price would tend to bring the markets down (since they are such a high percentage of volume).

Thanks

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 18:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 18:28 | Link to Comment bearplunge (not verified)
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 18:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 18:50 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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Seriously, robo i adore your posts but the first dude you ever post is bernanke?

 

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 19:06 | Link to Comment IE
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I don't get what's so surprising about some genuine demand for the relative safety of U.S. debt in an environment with massive, unstoppable debt deflation for the forseeable future.  Even with the dillution, the dollar should still continue to stay strong & appreciate against other assets (including tulip bulbs... I mean commodities).

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 21:16 | Link to Comment theadr
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You don't get it.  The other markets were gamed lower to sell the Treasuries.

I see another day of treading water.  Thursday stocks up.  Friday flat.  Next week up, up.  Stock crash will come, just prior to "marketing a new product" time.  October will be real ugly, economy will shed jobs at a faster rate again.  No temp jobs for Holidays.  Bottom of the cycle keeps getting pushed out. 

How much of the $300 billion in Treasuries promised has the Fed already purchased?

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 21:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 08/12/2009 - 01:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 22:44 | Link to Comment IE
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Oh - I totally get the premise.  I just disagree.

You think the market is totally under control, and I think the market will get to where it wants to go in spite of the efforts at intervention. 

You could be absolutely right with your near-term calls.  I don't necessarily disagree with them. 

I believe the late fall will be ugly - but I don't believe it will be on purpose.  I think our "financial leaders" are nervous and desperate - not crafty and sure-handed.

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 06:58 | Link to Comment kapillar
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Thank you for clearing this up. Despite frequent evidence to the contrary which this blog has had a great and important role to bring to a larger public, I also happen to think that desperation is the issue here, not conspiracy. Math question sucks.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 19:08 | Link to Comment Kreditanstalt
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's funny...(to me)..."investors" flee to the safety of they very things that have the highest degree of counterparty risk.  USD, T-Bonds...  I'd be running to GOLD, yet "investors" claim gold is "RISKY".  So the dollar isn't?  Commodities and gold decline WITH the markets???

  By sheer force of will, I plan to WAKE this market UP.  From now on the dollar will slide, the S&P will slump, bond auctions will have trouble finding any genuine buyers and gold will do well.  That's an ORDER.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 20:23 | Link to Comment Bubby BankenStein
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PM insurance gives restful sleep.

 

Sweet dreams!

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 00:59 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 08:33 | Link to Comment bilbert
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PM = Precious Metals

Stay away from the ETF's - buy physical and/or mining stocks.

 

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 20:40 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 12:23 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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(If you have money) now is a good time to buy gold. The central banks are selling - to keep fiat values stable - and have the gold to sell. (China is buying, of course). But this won't last forever. The gold in reserves is finite ...

Keep in mind, there are no hedges against deflation, as values decline for assets, gold will also decline in value. It's the relative valuation that matters.

This 'no more QE' is a smokescreen. The Chinese don't like QE. It misprices risk and makes the Treasury look and sound like ... the Chinese treasury! The Chinese are just as scared as we are, have just about as many bad loans on their banks books (see Mike Pettis) and have the same productivity issues. They have $2trillion ... I spit on your measly $2trillion!

Plus, the Fed (and the other central banks) can screw over the FX guys at will and nobody will pay any attention. The more reserves parked with the Fed the more ammunition it has to cut the nuts off currency speculators. Just like it is doing to short- sellers (hedgers) in stocks.

So, the Fed will buy under the table, they have to or the long end starts pricing long term risk in ways the Fed won't like. In the short- term, inflation is out of the question, but five years from now? How about the risk of repudiation?

You want to see the  long term future of American lending? Don't think inflation, think holders of GM and Chrysler secured debt. Twenty cents on the dollar, take it or leave it. The US government can declare a financial state of emergency (bankrupt) and simply pay what it likes.

"Fuck you!" is how Richard Nixon would put it ...

At the same time, who ... is ... going ... to ... lend ... Uncle Sugar (and his Euro and Japanese friends) ... all ... that ... money? Trillions upon trillions, unless the Fed buys there won't be any more (faux) bailouts.

Can't have that, can we?

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 19:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 08/11/2009 - 21:01 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Very astute; all the petit bourgeois day traders need the very same market existence / activity that Goldman's HFT bot needs in order to skim a living while neither producing nor aiding actual production.  What would they do if the markets vanished, get jobs?  Talk about "the horror."

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 12:29 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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This is what I tell people; you want to kick the bankers in the nuts?

 

Don't borrow any money! Simply pay (or walk away from) your debts and don't borrow. Just that simple. The banks will erode from within; it's just like putting salt on a slug.

It would be funny to watch Lloyd Blankfein hang a door. "Ow, I cut my finger (off with a saw)!"

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 19:32 | Link to Comment Kreditanstalt
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Not chagrined...just jaded.  As a surviving bear, maybe the last one standing, I expect anything from this Administration.  Not from the markets, from the Administration.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 21:12 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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I'm still here and still bearish as ever.  You may recall a recurring theme of my posts on Mish's site that I expected the Fed and dot gov to do "everything you can think of and lots of things you can't" in order to keep the economy from collapsing and making them lose their control.  They have not disappointed.  I still believe none of it will work long term, because it's all based on lying about math.  I am long cash, dollar shorts, and popcorn.  It's a "buy and hold" position, except for the popcorn, which is tasty with butter and economic news (lies).  Watching the markets has become just like watching the news has been for more than a decade: like watching theater.  No resemblance to reality.  You can see who the crooks are but the actors act like they can't hear you when you yell out their names and misdeeds.  You cannot influence the final outcome.  I watch and eat my popcorn, yelling sometimes anyway.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 20:18 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Robo is no doubt in Vegas for Slick Willy's bash.  Everyone already long RICK and MRT in anticipation of some easy money policy.

Photos to follow.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 21:46 | Link to Comment Ned Zeppelin
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Those who rail against this Administration amuse me, as they seem to have forgotten that the script for where we are originated with the prior one, or was it the one before that? They all kind of blur together.

Be ready for September rain and October pain.  By year end the Truth Will Be out There.  How many guns do you own, and how many days of food do you have stashed? Join the National Guard. Maybe you'll get to eat.

 

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 02:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 08:20 | Link to Comment I need more cowbell
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Obama didn't "inherit" this mess, they spent hundreds of millions to get this position, and over a year campaigning.

Obama is the worst nightmare this country has ever seen, and that is saying something since they are all crooks. As bad as wars are, ruining health care and imposing cap and tax affects EVERY citizen, and in a very bad way. These insane deficits affect every citizen, and in a very bad way.

The Russkies and Chinese must be laughing their asses off, watching us destroy ourselves, not from them, but from within.

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 10:55 | Link to Comment Assetman
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You're funny.

Wrong, but funny.

Your last statement, though, is right on the mark.

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 08/12/2009 - 00:22 | Link to Comment Handle with care
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I remember the V shaped recovery in the second half of 2008.

 

Good times.  Good times.  For shorts

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 00:15 | Link to Comment inflationary (not verified)
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Wed, 08/12/2009 - 11:24 | Link to Comment ED
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I passed a few floaters myself this morning. Then I ran out of paper.

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