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Since readers are likely eager to share their own predictions for 2011, please use the following open thread for that, as well as for anything else that may cross the collective subconscious. Additionally, any suggestions on improving (or deteriorating) the site, as well as all brainstorming, and last but not least threats, are most certainly welcome. Best of luck to all in 2011, especially those who fail in their resolutions to cease feeding the central planning monkeys.


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Fri, 12/31/2010 - 14:53 | 839985 Threeggg
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MRE's and K-rations Bitchez !!


Happy New Year

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 15:05 | 840042 A Nanny Moose
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With that I would suggest a nice red wine. A Cabernet perhaps.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 15:06 | 840053 CPL
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Would Monsieur care for a Hors D'Oeuvre with the chicken paste MRE?

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 22:45 | 840955 traderjoe
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Where's the best online store for ammo? Would love to get 'free' shipping. .308, 9mm, 12 gauge.  

In return:

Like Tulving for gold haven't tried for silver. A bit 'quaint' but good prices. Apmex very professional. Northwest Territorial Mint is a disaster - with 3-4 months of waiting. 

Thanks and Happy New Year!

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 00:23 | 841103 dbbeebs
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Where's the best online store for ammo? Would love to get 'free' shipping. .308, 9mm, 12 gauge.

Try ammoman outa New Jersey. Good selection and free shipping.


Sat, 01/01/2011 - 00:47 | 841128 Loan Gunman
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Drive over to Walmart.  It'll be cheaper than online.

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 06:15 | 842394 benburnyanki
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Goldman Sacks was the 'Disintegration' tool used to kill the tax protesting middle class who pay the majority of taxes relative to their income. You hi rollers on this site could give a rats ass cause you all earn so much that sales taxes and income taxes no longer eat up your 'discresionary income'. So the DHS = Stasi = Secret Citizen Spy Agency. Just like Stasi were supposed to stop external terrorists and spys, DHS is to do the same but only spys on USA citizens. When was the last time a big fat machine gun toten bro workin fer DHS was nice to your skinny white ass. If little Napolean's DHS was really DHS they would be chasin wet backs jumpin into El Paso instead of hiring her fat gay cousins to work as fanny fingerin TSA agents.

Don't you sheep get it? Oh I see, the CIA took all the E.German Stasi files in 1990. So nobody can figure out the stuff in the book NDCIC about NYC Jew Mafia funding Bolshevicks for the Rothschilds Shell Oil Co to drill in Siberia against Tzars wishes. Jews were mostly all of Stalins Komizars who killed 60 million Ruskies. Jews were running the Stasi in Poland and E. Germany apparently according to reports from me shipmates from that neck of da woods folks. When Kaptin Krunch say Jew Mafia running the world, we back up what we say with facts.

Here is Stasi in E.Germany website showing disintegration is used to destroy someone secretly. The USA middle class has secretly been killed by the Jew Mafia cause we hate the Federal Reserve the most since it makes middle class pay the highest tax (total % tax to discretionary income ratio).

Fuck and then Burn Bernanke!

Ben Burnyankee say: "We wacked Jesus & JFK for Bank Bustin' and walked, and have a 40 foot container of Gringo Bar-B-Q sauce"

Read Best Bank Book "None Dare Call It Conspiracy":

Video shows CIA & LAPD Import Cocaine:

Kennedy was right when he said to bust CIA into 1000 pieces. They the hitmen for the Jew Mafia at the Fed Reserve (aka Goldman Sackers)

part 1
part 2
part 3
part 4
part 5
part 6

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 10:29 | 841425 High Plains Drifter
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No such thing as free shippping.  Ammo man just includes the shipping cost in the price and then says free shipping.  Aim surplus is a good place to buy ammo , or is another or look on the gun boards like and may can find someone in your area that wants to sell some etc. Buy it ladies and gentlemen. But it while you still can. I feel a strong anti gun wind will soon start kicking up. But they are afraid to move on the guns, or at least , use a full frontal attack on them , for you see, the stupid Americans think they are free and because the state allows them to own guns, somehow they think they are free. So when those who want one world government , really and truely want to take all of our guns, as they have in so many other places around the globe, they are stymied because this is one area, where the stupid Americans would finally and truely understand, that the state and the nwo, want those guns and therefore, whatever freedoms they now have, are lost. Even the dumbest hick, would understand it, in a heartbeat, if he or she could not go out and hunt and play this game of pretend to be free and the nwo knows this and this is why they walk softly on the gun issue, at least so far. But this will change and change soon and change quickly so my advice to any that will listen it to get your gun and ammo buying done and do it quickly. Just remember, no matter, how flawed the founding fathers were, some of them, were thinking about you, when they stuck that second ammendment on the US Bill of Rights, on this you can be sure.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 12:41 | 841509 Red Neck Repugnicant
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To those individuals who request an "ignore" button: Go fuck yourself. 

How embarrassing for you!  Seriously. You miss the whole point!

The underpinnings of this website - even the motto, for the love of God! - is squarely rooted in aFight Club mentality.  This is an underground, anti-establishment, anti-censorship, anti-Kool Aid, anti-propaganda, brass balls effort to pull down the pants on the oligarchical powers that control you, me, everyone and everything.  This is not the place where you ignore or whine or stick your fingers in their your ears; this is the place where you wake up, stand up and fight back - well, the best you can from a keyboard, anyway.     

It's amazing to me how much narrow-minded, anger-fueled resentment is expressed to those posters who throw out contrarian views - it reminds me of organized religion or cults. The posts from both HarryWanger and Robotrader (whoever they really are) have been far more accurate than most of the echo-chamber, cult-like, doom/gloom bullshit that piles up in the comments section every day. If I were to guess, they probably made more money this year than any of you fuckers did.

But HW and RT are beside the point, really.  I don't want a fucking echo chamber, and I suspect most others here don't either. The cast of characters at ZH runs deep and wide. Some are brilliant, some are idiots, some are technical, some are philosophical, some are simple and wholesome, some are witty and derisive, some are purposely planted court-jesters - all of it adds to the depth and breadth and richness that you won't find anywhere else.   

If someone posts a comment that you disagree with, or you think is total lunacy, stand up and fucking fight!  Punch them in their face with facts and wit - this is a fight club, you idiots! Don't be a fucking pansy. Did Tyler ever turn to the Ed Norton character and say, hey you just hurt my feelings? If you can't handle some jeering or dissension, grab your blanket and turn on the Oprah Show.  

In my opinion, the idea of an ignore button runs pathetically counter to the entire theme of ZeroHedge. 

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 13:13 | 841539 TuesdayBen
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Nice post.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 13:24 | 841550 Rodent Freikorps
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I hate agreeing on anything with you, but two thumbs up.

Go back to being an asshole. You are creeping me out.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 16:55 | 841752 centerline
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I love this place.  Seriously.  Two big thumbs up to everyone here.  Rock on...

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 21:35 | 842077 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Which one of you laced Rednecks drink with acid?

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 17:15 | 841773 DaddyO
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If someone posts a comment that you disagree with, or you think is total lunacy, stand up and fucking fight!  Punch them in their face with facts and wit - this is a fight club, you idiots! Don't be a fucking pansy. Did Tyler ever turn to the Ed Norton character and say, hey you just hurt my feelings? If you can't handle some jeering or dissension, grab your blanket and turn on the Oprah Show.

OMG, I can't believe I'm about to write this. RNR, you're spot on with this particular point. ZH is about as real life as it gets and if you don't like it go play on some other mamby pamby, lily livered forum! I have lurked here for a while and have found myself sitting in front of the monitor with my head about to explode reading some posts. It is what makes ZH a special portal in the otherwise mindless jibberish that constitutes the vast majority of content on the internet. Better enjoy it while you can before some self absorbed referee (FCC) comes along and tries to make it more fair for those who can't or won't stand up and be counted.



Sat, 01/01/2011 - 18:31 | 841846 Lord Koos
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I don't think that people want an ignore button so that they don't have to read contrary viewpoints... I think it's because people don't want to have to see some of the crackpot hate speech that pops up in many threads

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 19:02 | 841886 Red Neck Repugnicant
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. 

Wrong as an erection with a perpendicular curve. Freedom will never be flavored for you. 

I never see more comments about an "ignore" button than I do after a post from RoboTrader, HarryWanger and often times me.  All they (or me) need to do is say one thing about the economy not dying next Tuesday or gold might correct, and suddenly a group of doom/gloom pansies have a face full of tears and boogers.

As far as the crack-pot hate speech that revolves around Jews or false flag conspiracies - those idiots are easy to handle.  Just do what Andre the Giant would do: pick them up and throw them over the "top rope". Verbally decimate them with facts and wit.

Or simply click your mouse on the next thread.  Move on.  It's easy.  But don't suddenly morph into a totalitarian police state and sniff everyone's shoes just because a few idiots might want to light their own feet on fire - that's essentially what you're doing. In effect, you're solving lunacy and self-destructiveness with regulation, and I must add that that sort of nanny-state solution is hilariously ironic coming from this neck of the woods!      

Irony is funny.   



Sat, 01/01/2011 - 22:21 | 842112 tmosley
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Actually, people want to ignore you because you never add anything to any conversation you take part in.  All you do is generate vendettas and then bend your mind in a thousand directions in order to generate insults.

Sorry, facts and wit have no effect on people like you.  You just ignore everything that doesn't fit into your worldview, and generate insults.

Further, an ignore button means that there is no more need for moderation, as spam bots will simply be promptly ignored.  

Of course, as I posted elsewhere, forced anonymous (with registration) would be a far better system.  Douchebags like you couldn't pursue vendettas against numerous anonymous people, new people could participate without the fear of being labelled as "stupid", and ideas would be judged by their merit, rather than merit or demerit by association with the person posing them.

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 00:32 | 842215 grl
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Thank you for that post RNR. 

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 01:12 | 842238 benb
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Red Neck – “As far as the crack-pot hate speech that revolves around Jews or false flag conspiracies - those idiots are easy to handle.” Nice Joseph Geobbel's move. Go ahead and tie anti-semitism to questioning the lies emanating from a renegade Federal Government.          

“There is nothing on the scene that’s coming to the defense of civil liberty and the Constitution or of accountable government. There is no sign of opposition to the snowballing police state. And we see repeatedly from agencies of the Federal Government a complete contempt for the public. For example the TSA (You know the airport security people). They have made it completely clear that they will arrive at no accommodation with the American people other than the violation of their persons that they impose by brute force. We have the Secretary of Defense (which is a euphemism) saying that we are going to conduct wars and don’t care what the people think because they don’t have anything to do with our decisions. And, we have all of this massive spying not just on state and local governments and anti-war protesters but essentially on everybody and the accumulation of massive numbers of dossiers on people. Well there couldn’t possibly be that many terrorists. If there were that many terrorists the whole country would be going up in explosions right now. In fact the only acts of terrorism we see are the orchestrated cases that are part of FBI and what are called sting operations. They go out and find some hapless guy and provoke him into some plot that they give him and string this along and then they capture him….Well you know when they got away with 9-11 that sealed our fate because that became the excuse…I still don’t see any real challenge other than from the ‘Truthers’ which the government and the mainstream media (and as far as I can tell) a majority of the people keep marginalized despite their qualifications and the rigor of their research and reasoning. So I think when they got away with 9-11 that’s when they captured everything because everything else flows from that. That’s the excuse. That’s where all terror flows from. That’s where all the police state implications originate.”

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts -12/31/10

RedNeck it’s unfortunate that you have become a victim of the mind control /government brainwashing as we all have a responsibility as citizens under the constitution. And without the guarantees which that document provides no one is safe from having their wealth stripped from them by a criminal government.


Sun, 01/02/2011 - 06:05 | 842393 AnAnonymous
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People who feel constrainted by the impossibility to vent their antisemitism should take the path of  venting their negrophobia, their sinophobia as those two are generally welcomed by this site communauty.

Get adapted if you want to be free. In the US conception of freedom, freedom are the things the others allow you to perform. So jump on the train.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 18:39 | 841860 RoRoTrader
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+100, RedNeck

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 21:42 | 842085 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Politics is ducking and running democratic responsibility and you have the sense to say we a in an economic recovery.  Brilliant.

U6 California?

First World global U6?

Suicide rates?


All up redneck.  From where in your ivory tower you se otherwise, I would consider stepping away from your crystal ball.  It apears to lack ability.

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 00:35 | 842218 Dexter Morgan
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Right on.  Fight Club it is.  Five people actually flagged this post as junk?  haha  They can go fuck themselves, too.

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 00:43 | 842225 High Plains Drifter
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Speaking of fight club. I saw this about 5 years ago.

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 09:03 | 842441 TheDriver
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I normally don't agree with you RNR -- but that is PRECISELY why I read your posts. An ignore button on ZH would be counter-productive. I'd like to see the Junk feature reworked a bit too.

If Tyler or Sacrilege are reading, here's a user story for you to consider:

As a registered and logged in member of ZH, in order to "junk" a post, I should be required to submit a comment/rebuttal to the "junked" post in order to punch the junked member in their face with facts and wit. (i.e. Junking shouldn't be anonymous. If you want to call bullshit on something - it should be done in an open manner.)

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 13:27 | 841555 Uncle Remus
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You're right of course, there is no such thing as "free" shipping. Ammoman is competitive, but you have to make sure your weapon can fire what he (or any ammo dealer) is selling, unless you don't mind hanging on to some ammo for future bartering.

I have gotten some (cases actually) excellent Hungarian boxer brass non-steel 7.62x39 ammo from Cabelas on sale - the difference in price from Wolf Berden steel steel was negligible in monetary terms and when considering it fires unerringly through a Mini-30 with factory mags.

Know what ammo your weapons will reliably feed, fire and eject - not by "brand", but by specification. Know before you find out the hard way.

And be creative on where to look for sources of ammo.

You are also correct in that it will unlikely be a full frontal assault on the 2nd amendment. It never has been.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 14:01 | 841587 High Plains Drifter
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The best  7.62 x 39  surplus is Yugo. It comes in crates. Still available in quanities. But it while you still can and stash it. DPMS rifles do not like Eastern block and Russian ammo. The best thing to do is use the Eastern Block ammo in a kit gun that has been assembled either by yourself of a gunsmith. In my opinion, QC at some of the Russian ammo plants can vary from time to time. If you must ruin a barrel, don't use a Krebs gun or a Arsenal, Inc gun. I know they are kit guns too, but they are just too sweet. Use some cheap ak to run that stuff through.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 15:25 | 841672 Uncle Remus
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I like to keep it simple. I keep a handful of common caliber, reliable, easy to maintain and repair weapons with as much off-the-shelf funtionality as I can get.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 21:46 | 842087 Dr. Sandi
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You're right of course, there is no such thing as "free" shipping.

I do believe you've just created the new acronym for 2011:

TANSTAFS: There ain't no such thing as free shipping.

So bite me, Amazon. I know where that free shipping comes from!

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 14:26 | 841621 Blankman
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Agreed HPD.  I feel instead of going after your guns they will tax the hell out of ammo in order to push the guns out of "dissident" hands.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 03:11 | 841249 Bear Jew
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Use the ammo search engines

Other good places..

Gold Dots loaded hot for your carry weapon:  (orders of 1000 rounds or more get free shipping).

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 09:48 | 841401 johnQpublic
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how about ammozon?amazon?whatever...

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 06:49 | 841327 DukkButt
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Natchez Shooters Supply has some pretty good sales. Sign up for their e-mail alerts and wait for what you want to go on sale.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 11:15 | 841457 cclaeys
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learn to reload, buy an a$$load of powder, primers and bullets...I made a killing on that stuff when Obama was elected.

If you arent interested in that route - walmart, unless you need custom or non standard loads, +p, etc - wont find shotgun shells cheaper.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 14:03 | 841589 High Plains Drifter
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I think you are right. Buying guns and ammo can be a investment decision , as well, these days.  One day soon, there will be a black market in lead products.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 14:35 | 841631 watchingdogma
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I've used CheaperThanDirt and AmmunitionToGo several times with no complaints.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 14:52 | 841647 Pemaquid
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"Northwest Territorial Mint is a disaster - with 3-4 months of waiting."

So true!  Prior to ordering I made the mistake of not reading the fine print.  My own fault 100%  That said, piece of crap outfit!

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 04:11 | 841286 CD
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OT, and sorry for undeservedly butting in here, but there's an Easter egg that deserves more play. There's hope yet for humanity in the US (or just maybe TD's message has finally infiltrated Hollywood): closing credits for the Will Ferrell / Mark Wahlberg vehicle 'The Other Guys' detailing (with infographics) various definitions of Ponzi, including Sir Bernie, TARP, 401K's -- it's frigging classic: 

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 15:00 | 841653 Lets Hang Parliament
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Which twat junked this it's right up there with a WB7 creation...almost!

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 01:13 | 842265 Howard_Beale
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I loved that at the end. It was quite well done indeed. I have no idea why people randomly or parasitically flag anything and everything as junk. The system stinks Tyler, as many have told you for a year and a half now. Being mad as hell, sure, the flag as junk can come in handy. But it's a become insulting and worthess.

I think the time has come for a third flag--call it an arbitor. 16 people can Flag as Junk, or reply to the comment and get junked further by the herd.

Let's try Reply, Flag as Junk, and Flag as Not Junk.

Give it a shot. Let's see how fast the playing field levels to get us back to a better day of interaction.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 15:28 | 840130 I need more cowbell
Fri, 12/31/2010 - 16:44 | 840293 Instant Karma
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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 10:07 | 841417 Drag Racer
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here is some past for ya... lol I can this the BS post of the new year..

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 10:57 | 841437 wilburpup
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"History repeats itself: the first time as tragedy; the second time as farce."  ---Karl Marx, "The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon"

see also:  Marla Singer on "Farcism" Part I

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 18:39 | 840589 nmewn
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"Theme for next year.."


Fri, 12/31/2010 - 22:43 | 840952 greenbear
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Means nothing to me anymore.  They play our dirge, that doesn't make them my idols.  

They've already made their own deal with the devil. 

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 18:50 | 840612 Jay Gould Esq.
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Nyuk, nyuk !

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 19:48 | 840629 gangland
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i do love you cantankerous bitchez all, sorry if i was assholish, i ll try to be less so, especially cd, banzai and jquinn.  for my lack of money, Mr. Reggie M and BK and phoenix research are money! chemical imbalances aren't always advantageous.  hamisheh zero hedge bitchezz!


i was going thru some shit and, you all were the only outlet i had to lash out, "otherwise i'd shoot all the lights out of this fuckingcity" - something like bukowski said.


Fri, 12/31/2010 - 19:52 | 840727 gangland
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look up operation phantom fury or tiger force/strike force tiger

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 20:16 | 840771 ebworthen
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I hear ya'.

I feel the same.

I'd say "I feel your pain" but it would leave a funny taste in my mouth.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 22:50 | 840964 iDealMeat
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There is no "past"... Your individualistic experience of life is completely different from the next guy. Your common ground is fodder for conversation. or war.

There is no "future"... Your past dictates your perception of the future.. Anything can happen..


All you really have is right here right now.. 





Sat, 01/01/2011 - 03:04 | 841245 Terminus C
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While I agree with the premise of your statement, your past (your perception of the past, other's perception of the past and the actual physical happenings) does influence your present, which in turn, affect what possible events can happen to you next.

We do only exist in the present.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 15:20 | 841669 SteveNYC
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Yes, all previous (at least in the context of our relativistic mind which does operate in a universe involving time) conditions and experiences will absolutely affect the present manifestations, conditions and experiences.

The only way to alter future conditions and manifestations is to be aware of our moment to moment existence, to have clarity, to not be pulled, pushed, and dragged by our karma. If we are not aware, than we are like 99.999% of people in the country: simply lurching from emotional fix to emotional fix, programmed to fulfil the karma we have sewn and create more karma, thus the cycle goes on.

There is only the present, everything exists and happens now: the question is, are we existing in the present, or in the alternative "reality" our mind is creating?

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 14:51 | 841646 sgt_doom
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Thanks to T.D. and Zerohedge for a fantastic forum, some of the comments and posts have been awesomely enlightening.

I would strenously recommend, if one were only two read several items this year, please oh please be sure to read the two links below (totally 4 pages) brilliantly explaining the Global Banking Cartel (and no, these posts aren't mine and I confess to learning that Cantor Fitzgerald is a primary dealer -- something I wasn't aware of but definitely fills in some gaps).

The final item (totalling 10 - 12 pp.), a bit longer but also brilliant, is something I've recommended repeatedly and bears another mention -- Prof. Tainter's brilliant paper covering the crucial aspects on complex societal collapse:

If nothing else read over the next decade, reading these two items (Global Banking Cartel brief, and Tainter's paper) will greatly elucidate events and make one positively brilliant overnight!

Good luck with 2011 and 2012, many of us will need it!

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 14:51 | 839988 furieus
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The bad guys continue winning

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 16:10 | 840239 H. Perowne
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One more victory like that and they are finished.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 14:57 | 841652 GoinFawr
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Fri, 12/31/2010 - 20:41 | 840812 tmosley
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Pyrrhic victories all, this year.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 14:51 | 839993 Pants McPants
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I am so glad I found this site.  Thank you all for furthering my education.

Happy New Year.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 14:54 | 839998 Cognitive Dissonance
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Thank you Tyler, Marla and the rest of the ZH crew for all you do. And thank you Zero Hedge contributors, readers and comment posters. You are simply the best on the web.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 15:01 | 840022 High Plains Drifter
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What he said.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 15:44 | 840163 Red Neck Repugnicant
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Thank you Tyler, Marla and the rest of the ZH crew for all you do. And thank you Zero Hedge contributors, readers and comment posters. You are simply the best on the web.

You're welcome CD.

I get sort of bashful when people point out my efforts, but today I'll just let it ride.  Speaking for myself and all of humanity, we must learn that we are very special in God's eyes - even if we only constitute a speck of dust in the whirlwind of the universe.

I mean, really...let's be serious for a moment...

Our universe is comprised of three things: dark matter, dark energy and everything else. Dark matter comprises about ~25% of the universe.  Dark energy comprises the other ~75%.  Within those numbers is a small, infinitesimal error that does not actually add up to 100% - more like 99%.  In the remaining 1% are the hundreds of billions of galaxies, hundreds of billions of suns, trillions of planets, and you and me.

Knowing that, it can become very difficult to recognize the importance of...well....anything other than which local therapist specializes in inferiority complexes and just how quickly can I make an appointment.

Someone with a fully functioning frontal cortex may wonder why God designated us so far to the right of the decimal point, if he truly loved us?  Not me.  I think it makes me special.  And I think it makes you special, too.

<cue the trumpets> 

Have a great New Year!

God bless America  


Fri, 12/31/2010 - 16:41 | 840199 DavidPierre
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GOD ... !

... loves you ...  needs MONEY.

... talk about a good bullshit story.


Sun Worship... Butch!

.........."10 Commands"............


 Some edumacation fer da Red Neck PeckerBreath and his ewe-love-buddy, SmokeyJimQuinn, to maybe be learning some new idears ... a Uni-ReVerses of thinkin processes in 2011 ...





Fri, 12/31/2010 - 17:04 | 840313 EvlTheCat
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My 2011 prediction is that David Pierre will NOT grow a conscience, or the ability to discuss topics as an adult, and he will continue to be psychotic douchebag in 2012 as well.  Happy New Year Ass O and pass my love on to everyone at the compound!

By the power of alcohol!!

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 17:51 | 840464 DavidPierre
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Ms. EvlThePussy:

2011 prediction...  SmokeyQuinn will NOT grow a Brain ... admit being a bald face LIAR, or develop the adult ability to discuss or debate 9/11TRUTH, or much of anything else of important @

...because he and his let's pretend flock of Aliases...Smokey...RubMy1... etc. etc. that post there. 

SmokeyQuinn, in 2012, will continue to be a self proclaimed psychotic bI-polar douchebag that was outed by his previous webmaster over a year ago, and a racist hate monger as well.


Happy New Year Ass O and pass my love on to everyone at the MORON's blog!

By the power of BCBud!!


Fri, 12/31/2010 - 18:21 | 840542 pslater
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And the swamp gets measurably deeper.....

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 18:23 | 840557 EvlTheCat
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You still assume..  making an ass out of you and me, I may add.. I like Quinn.  Which is why I still harp on your lack of being able to construct any adult like comments.  I could care less about Mr. "SmokeyQuinn" as you like to call him.  I visited his site and it did not do a thing for me.  What I want is the truth.  You do NOT provide that anymore than Mr. "SmokeyQuinn".  The difference being he is not an asshole in constructing arguments where you exceed, with effervescence, in being a useless hot headed batch job.  Try adding a few FACTS with your useless ramblings and maybe, maybe, people might try and take your comments as useful.  Your hate for the Quinn drives you to sound like a fool and drives others towards him.  Sugar vs. vinegar.  Look it up and learn something useful!

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 18:51 | 840594 DavidPierre
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Ms. ET Pussy:


Maybe Reggie M. would like to share his thought and insights concerning SmokeyQuinn's ongoing thread from his blog...

30 Blocks of Squalor ?

For people like you... "FACTS" are highly overrated.



SmokeyQuinn deleted those links to his blog.

Why don't you just ask him why?

While your at it, ask him about the 9/11 Thread he lied about deleting also.

Get him to explain why he also posts on his own blog under AKAs.

'You can not handle the FACTS!'


Fri, 12/31/2010 - 19:01 | 840641 EvlTheCat
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I am NOT talking about Reggie M., or the Quinn, am I?  I am referring to you!  You and I have crossed paths in other forum topics, NOT related to Quinn, and you still FAIL to produce any useful FACTS.  You only know personal bias.  Not once have you been able to provide any credible information to refute what is laid before you.  All you can do is insult and add links to George Carlin, your personal hero.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 19:32 | 840684 DavidPierre
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Ms. ET Pussy:

You also post under !

That's a FACT.

Go on back to

Smell you later...!

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 19:42 | 840704 EvlTheCat
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Q.E.D. or "quod erat demonstrandum"


Smell you next year! ;)

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 16:10 | 840237 KickIce
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"Our universe is comprised of three things"

I believe you missed one, that would be bullshit.  Not sure of the percentage to total matter but it increases with each additional posting you make.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 17:36 | 840445 High Plains Drifter
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This is the kind of clap trap that people who listen to idiots like Michael Medved and Sean Hannity , would say.  These people are devoid of reality. They are in some world that does not exist.  Now we have lost habeas corpus, we almost have no more rights, we get stopped at mandatory stops and blood is drawn upon suspicion of drinking, we get stripped searched at airports,  we have cameras all over the place where big brother is watching us, our idiotic congress passed the patriot act, without even reading it, the tea  party gets compromised and infiltrated from the start and now means nothing, the vote means nothing, congress does not listen to the people, the courts do not act according to the common law,  and on and on it goes and this asshole tells me God bless America. Give me a break. I am sick of it already. I have decided some people never learn and never will learn and it doesn't matter what happens and what they hear and what they read, they never will really understand or get it. 

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 20:02 | 840744 RichardP
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I do think it was meant as sarcasm.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 20:36 | 840803 Bringin It
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HPD - Nice summary. 

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 01:22 | 841162 High Plains Drifter
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2011 could be a pivotal year.  Thanks to the internet , many sheep are waking up. The pebble in the shoe for the Rothschilds and their ideas about the new world order, is the United States. These stupid Americans can be a problem. They want to destroy us as a country , and they want this real bad now. We stand in the way of their multi- generational dream of one world government. The Bible talks about the thousand year reign of Christ. The zionist jews talk about the thousand year reign of the jew, here on earth, which is what they really and truely want because if any of you care to take the trouble and read their books, they believe their god wants them to do this. It is a riddle wrapped in a riddle.  I listen to Michael Medved occasionally to see what my enemy is doing. He is a clever man and very subtle. The sheep don't see it, but I do. He has these certain programs he runs every once in a while called , disagree with Michael on anything, or conspiracy Friday, etc. Basically , what they are doing is gauging. They are sending out feelers to see if any of the dumbed down "conservative" robots are getting off of their appointed reservations, and are starting to think outside the box. If anyone calls in with a question that gets too close to real reality, Medved , talks to him and then quickly hangs up and says thanks for calling in.  Yes radio is captured territory folks. All , and I do mean all radio is captured. It is complete brain washing and falsehoods and always was or for a very long time, especially after they changed the radio ownerships laws and when the jews also took control of the FCC. Believe it or not. That my friends , is up to you to decide. Decide quickly. The voices of dessent will be silenced soon, this I know.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 02:06 | 841197 DavidPierre
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All is not lost in radio.  Turn off the talk-trash...Tune into CBC on the web.

Great programs and the best of them is 'IDEAS'.


Changes: New Year Eve Special


As an old year fades and a new year dawns, IDEAS host Paul Kennedy considers what is gained, and what is lost, in the inevitable process of "change," with a little help from selected musical and philosophical friends.

*Great rants... BTW.
Sat, 01/01/2011 - 08:18 | 841350 Bringin It
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HPd - agreed all radio is captured.  Ok KPFD in Berkley, but pretty much all else otherwise.  No, never mind.  It's all captured.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 23:12 | 841004 iDealMeat
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+4  one for your avatar, one for your name, and 2 for your comment.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 01:42 | 841168 High Plains Drifter
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I can't shoot as good as Blondie, while sitting on a horse, shouldering a Henry, aiming at a rope around Tuco's neck, from about 500 yards.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 23:17 | 841015 IQ 145
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 When the barbarians overran Rome in the 4th. cent. AD; the most fervent prayer of the former citizens was that they should never come under the authority of any Roman again. Their government was their enemy, and they knew this; the barbarians were liberators; of a sort.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 00:38 | 841115 hardmedicine
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high plains.


It is one of my only comforts to come here and know I'm not alone in seeing the truth around me.  thank you

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 15:28 | 841680 SteveNYC
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"I have decided some people never learn and never will learn and it doesn't matter what happens and what they hear and what they read, they never will really understand or get it."

Most don't want to learn. Even those closest to me, no interest in learning. A case in point: one gets an urge to "buy" something they "need" for the home. What is it? A rug. Is it needed? No. So why does the person wanting it think they "need" it? When you try to explain where this urge comes from, how it has been planted time and again by subtle advertising as to what your home should look like, and if it is so, you will be happy......

....there is no interest in learning about the "seed" of this desire. None, zero. It is dismissed.

Imagine being one who is doing the selling here: if you only KNEW (as some of the clever, manipulative ones do) that your audience will do ANYTHING to avoid learning about WHY they feel the way they do, and just OBEY their emotion time after time...if you KNEW that your audience WANTS to remain in this state, at all costs..... could you lose?

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 00:27 | 841105 chindit13
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"Our universe is comprised of three things"

This, that, and the other.

Some, any, and no, which collectively compose every.

These are a few of my favorite ........

Yes, I ace'd my university physics.  Philosophy, too.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 02:44 | 841201 iDealMeat
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You Sir, are the reason I revisit the comments sometimes..

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 02:26 | 841220 Occams Aftershave
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Epiphany:    Dark matter IS the bullshit.   99% of everything is bullshit.   Now it all makes snse.   Happy New Year !

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 10:25 | 841424 Crassus
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Bernanke will codify the laws of dark matter just as soon as he puts the final touches on his debt deflation policy.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 16:51 | 840324 tmosley
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You certainly aren't a part of the "ZH crew".  You never contribute anything, but only insult anyone you perceive to be of a "lower class" than you, and suck up to anyone you consider to be an authority figure.

Why don't you just fuck off?  Nobody wants you here.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 17:11 | 840370 jm
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Lighten up and grow up.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 17:44 | 840457 tmosley
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You apparently haven't read any of RNR's vicious personal attacks.  Have you ever seen him actually contribute anything to a conversation.

I will never lighten up on trolls like him.  Not without an ignore button, anyways.

I didn't junk you.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 17:47 | 840470 sourgrapesson
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AMEN to that!

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 20:28 | 840783 asdasmos
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Fri, 12/31/2010 - 20:35 | 840802 nmewn
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I agree Faux is an idiot, but everyone is entitled to an opinion...they're just not entitled to be taken seriously ;-)

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 17:26 | 840404 High Plains Drifter
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God will bless those who do His will.  We are not doing His will. So why make such a silly and vacuous statement such as, God bless America...?  I ask you. Name one reason why He should do such a stupid thing?  This kind of stupid clap trap is what has got us into so much trouble. This mindset where we can go and kill other innocent people and at the same time say well ,we are doing God's work?  This is insanity. It is illogical and it makes no sense. This is a false paradigm and a false patriotism. It will not stand. One day, perhaps soon, the American insurgent  may ask you a question, are you with us or you are with the enemy. Answer well, answer well at that hour.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 17:33 | 840437 ZeroPower
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Happy New Year to you all :)

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 17:46 | 840453 High Plains Drifter
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Yes it is a new year coming and we shall watch as they tighten the vise more and more.  I wonder if a time would ever happen if the sheep would start getting tired of it all. Maybe not. With 40 million some odd people on welfare, many sheep are bought off with a few trinkets and wear their chains without comment.

Fri, 12/31/2010 - 23:21 | 841023 iDealMeat
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God will bless those who do His will.  We are not doing His will. So why make such a silly and vacuous statement such as, God bless America...?


There is no God..  There is only man contrived faith.

Faith in a god and faith in a fiat.  All will fail.. and begin anew..

wash, rinse, repeat...

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 00:12 | 841085 nmewn
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I've noticed, throughout time, there are no atheists in fox holes...very curious ;-)

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 00:16 | 841092 wisefool
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I have noticed that people that solve the captchaka for Zero hedge are more worthy of Econ PhDs than Timmy or Ben.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 00:26 | 841107 High Plains Drifter
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Perhaps you and many others might be interested in this website.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 00:29 | 841109 Rodent Freikorps
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It always seems strange to me that anyone would be so arrogant as to make the claim there is no God while sitting in the office, on a small planet, orbiting a small sun, way out on the spiral arm of a relatively insignificant galaxy.

Some folks learn some humility after college.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 01:22 | 841163 nmewn
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"Some folks learn some humility after college."

Humility is a good trait...they don't teach that in college ;-)

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 13:26 | 841554 Rodent Freikorps
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I think that may explain that whole Ivy League thing.

That is the most concentrated arrogance in this arm of the galaxy.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 18:05 | 841825 nmewn
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Could not agree more...LOL.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 02:07 | 841204 iDealMeat
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You've contradicted yourself.. In one sentence..  Awesome..

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 02:46 | 841235 Rodent Freikorps
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How so?

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 03:12 | 841253 iDealMeat
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uuhhmm...  well..  do you forgive Galileo?

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 03:42 | 841271 Rodent Freikorps
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He would have been fine if he wasn't such a jerk. He was right, but his proofs were weak.

House arrest doesn't seem all that horrible. What happens, today, to scientists who go off the reservation?

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 08:26 | 841353 snowball777
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They're locked in a small room and forced to do gaussian copuli for Vikram Pandit?

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 15:28 | 841679 Rodent Freikorps
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See?  Things are much more harsh now.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 02:12 | 841209 Terminus C
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Wait... wut?

You call it arrogance to claim there is no God...?  Yet you don't see the arrogance in claiming that there is a God and he looks like "me".  Oh... and, "he talks to me..."," I know what he wants us to do"  and, "he has a plan we need to follow"

Talk about arrogance.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 02:56 | 841236 Rodent Freikorps
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When did I claim all those things?

All I'm asking is that if you claim there is no god, prove it.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 02:58 | 841242 Terminus C
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Prove God is what you say "he" is.


Oh and... I did not mean to imply that you said those things specifically, but that is what religion does.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 03:27 | 841257 Rodent Freikorps
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I can't prove it. My experiences won't mean a thing to you.

Like most things, you have to seek to find. What do you really have to lose?

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 13:40 | 841564 Uncle Remus
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You appear to have succumbed to a rather narrow definition of "religion".

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 13:58 | 841581 Terminus C
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Please, enlighten me on your broader definition of religion...

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 14:53 | 841650 Uncle Remus
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Religion is about control, about dogma, about power and wealth.

You seem to have done that yourself. From the perspective of religion, "god" is merely a means to an end and said "god" may not even be divine or supernatural or even called "god".

You can have "god" or God without the religion and vice versa.

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 11:38 | 842493 hamurobby
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You can have "god" or God without the religion and vice versa.


Amen to that. I believe, but I no longer prescribe to any one cult of worship other than my own, and I am not starting one up either.

Once a man becomes his own, he no longer needs to belong to anything.


OT but I have a prediction. In 2011 the Jefferson nickel will go the way of the 95% copper penny. Thats change to change you can believe in.

Thank you to all you smart people for taking the time this past year to educate dumb asses like me. May this new year be happy and prosperous for all of those who visit and support ZH.


Sat, 01/01/2011 - 03:12 | 841251 Terminus C
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The idea of proving the existence or non-existence of a, for lack of a better term, "creator" or "great architect" is pointless at best.  Such a being, that could create the universe as we percieve it can not be comprehended by us.

The only way in which we can know "God" is through observing the universe around us, learning its patterns and understanding its "being".

Religion is about control, about dogma, about power and wealth.  I have no use for these or those who promote it as the only way to understand.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 06:36 | 841260 Rodent Freikorps
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How do you feel about the nanny state, then?

Christians might give me a stearn look, but the government will fine me, bankrupt me, or jail me over some pretty piddly crap.

And Nanny is just ramping up.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 13:59 | 841584 Terminus C
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The nanny state uses many of the tactics of formal religion for control.

Death to the nanny state!

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 11:24 | 841463 nmewn
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An atheist, is someone who has searched for any evidence that there is a God and found nothing supporting it. So, he assumes there is not. But he cannot know if he has reviewed all evidence, no mortal can. 

The implied arrogance/ego/superiority of saying to oneself that he knows everything there is to know, is to say that one is in fact something of a deity them self...the very thing that he has set out to disprove. 

In the end, to be an atheist requires more faith than he or she realizes or will admit ;-)

Organized religion is a completely separate thing to me. They involve men (and of course women) in leadership roles, who are subject to all the same faults and frailties inherent in us all. They are guides...shepherds. There are good ones and bad ones.

Nothing more.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 12:05 | 841474 Unlawful Justice
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Facts are a bitch to your subjective assertions.

Open your mind.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 12:08 | 841490 nmewn
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A little testy this morning?...ROTFL...your belief system a little wobbly or is it just the hangover?

A prominent atheist has done some rather startling calculations on us being here "accidentally".

The odds are stacking up against your position...not mine junior ;-)

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 14:06 | 841591 Terminus C
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I do not deny the possibility there is a "God", I just deny the likelyhood that formal human religions know what that "God" is, what it wants and can communicate with it.


Sun, 01/02/2011 - 01:07 | 842249 High Plains Drifter
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when you see such things , can you see a Creator at work?


Now they are saying that the earth is the geometric center of the universe, per the dark energy theories. So now, modern science is back to square one.

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 01:40 | 842289 tmosley
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Odin is the only true god.


But serioulsy, why do you beleive what is written in the Bible, but not what is written in any of the thousands of other religious texts that exist around the world?

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 10:34 | 842473 nmewn
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See still gives me chills.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 15:09 | 841660 GoinFawr
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I've noticed, throughout time, that there are no Jesus bones in dinosaur holes... very curious.


Sat, 01/01/2011 - 18:35 | 841855 nmewn
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Goes right along, chapter and verse, with what everyone says happened to them doesn't it? ;-) 

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 18:10 | 841831 Kayman
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While I respect anyone that believes, I have never seen any objective back up to the conjecture about "atheists and foxholes", however pleasing it may sound.

Another fear of the unknown hypothesis.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 19:04 | 841903 nmewn
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"While I respect anyone that believes..."

I appreciate that Kayman.

"...I have never seen any objective back up to the conjecture about "atheists and foxholes"..."

So, because you have not seen it, it does not exist to you. Fair enough. 

"Another fear of the unknown hypothesis."

You're making a conclusion on what you have not seen, as you say.

I'm only saying, keep an open mind...there are many things that are unknowable and yet other things that only reveal themselves with the passage of time.

Like this;

We also know, there are those who are not very forthcoming about sharing or providing or perhaps even destroying evidence that does not support their world view. As with the link above, describing the Saudis taking down the column on their side, just because you do not see the column there doesn't mean the column never existed or what it's purpose was or what still lies below the waves of the Red Sea that the column was marking.

Take care.

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 01:11 | 842258 High Plains Drifter
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You should tell them that you blessed to be born in the Bible belt. Of course they won't understand it. Its a southern kind of thingy.

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 10:30 | 842471 nmewn
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"You should tell them that you blessed to be born in the Bible belt."

I thought they's not like I hide it.

"Of course they won't understand it."

No they wouldn't...I've seen & experienced things that would curl their hair. 

This is deeply personal...but I'll share one...and only one...but there are many other examples.

One of my parents was a pastor, my mom. It may be that because I was so heavily submersed in it as a child that I don't attend church regularly now (at least that's what I think). But it doesn't change my faith. Anyways, all of my brothers and sisters were grown and raising families before I left home (I'm the youngest). On mom's nightstand she kept a one ever touched it but her.

When she passed away the Bible came into my possession. I never opened wife never opened it. It was placed along with our other books in our library. My wife became pregnant (a son) and we chose a name. I guess he was around six months old at the time and Mrs.n was a stay at home mom then and I guess she got bored and went into the library and for some reason got down mom's old Bible.

She opened it and on the inside front of the cover was mom's hand writing of a chapter and verse. It was the only writing there. She turned to it out of was a passage dealing with a person in the Bible...a son...who's name is the name we had chosen for our son.

Needless to say she was freaked...LOL...out of all the names in there, it's this one. When I came home she told me about it figuring I would be angry that she had opened it without my knowledge as it was very personal to me now, no one had opened it till then, not even me.

I wasn't...I just smiled (OK...a little freaked too)...but I had seen these kind of things wife had not...a final gift, delivered six years later.

"Its a southern kind of thingy."

Yeah, kinda I guess...bring on Bocephus...LOL.

I did not intend for this part of the thread to evolve into me defending the christian faith, but this is fight club and, afterall, I can be defined as a genuine whatever...but I do get a little tired of it getting drilled by people who have never experienced it firsthand for themselves. I'm no angel, not by a long shot, just a man...but I know what I know about's real.

Just as real as you and I HPD.

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 15:19 | 842742 High Plains Drifter
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Very nice story. Glad you shared it with us.

Sun, 01/02/2011 - 16:36 | 842888 nmewn
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Your welcome sir.

I value my anonymity just like all of us...there are others who know this story about us...I took a chance because I felt the occasion warranted it.


Sat, 01/01/2011 - 00:23 | 841104 High Plains Drifter
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The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, indicate that one of their most important goals is to seperate the goy from their God.  This goal has been accomplished to a great extent.  As your father was and his father before him, so you are.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 00:35 | 841112 iDealMeat
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no man = no god

no man = no fiat

no man = none of the stupid shit we fight over

Plants have more genetic material then animals..

just sayin

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 01:08 | 841148 High Plains Drifter
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Do you know anything about Charles Darwin and who he was and who financed his little ideologies and why these bogus non scientific theories were pushed back in his day? Do you think for one minute this happened by chance?  As someone said one time on here, Google is your friend (at least so far and this could change very rapidly)....

Just so you know. There is a old saying, All roads lead to Rome. Well that old saying has been replaced a long time ago.


Sat, 01/01/2011 - 03:26 | 841222 iDealMeat
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Do you know anything about Charles Darwin....

Yes, I do..  And I don't care... History will get us no-where.

Teach your kids to fish, hunt, farm, and respect girls..

And cut all your consumption in half..     in 1/2..  bitch!..

And BTW: H.P.D.  I'm out in CA..  Call me meat...

I welcome people that think different then I do.

No big deal.. Just a chance to learn.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 10:59 | 841440 psychobilly
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Common descent and natural selection are as controversial as plate tectonics or the heliocentric model of the solar system.

If you don't mind me asking, which specific web site or sites did you pick up this nonsense from?  It's always fun to trace these popular memes back to their original sources. 


Sat, 01/01/2011 - 06:15 | 841317 Dismal Scientist
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'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a fraudulent antisemitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan to achieve global domination. The text was fabricated in the Russian Empire, and was first published in 1903. The text was translated into several languages and widely disseminated in the early part of the twentieth century. Henry Ford published the text in The International Jew, and it was widely distributed in the United States. In 1921, a series of articles printed in The Times revealed that the text was a fraud, and some of the material was plagiarized from earlier works of political satire unrelated to Jews. The Protocols purports to document the minutes of a late 19th-century meeting of Jewish leaders discussing their goal of global Jewish hegemony. Their proposals to engender such include subverting the morals of the Gentile world, controlling the world's economies, and controlling the press. The Protocols is still widely available today on the Internet and in print in numerous languages.'

Any thoughts ? Am not Jewish myself, merely think the above merits attention due to the word 'fraudulent' in the first line.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 14:07 | 841594 chumbawamba
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Of course, they want you to believe it's a hoax.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 20:50 | 842026 Dismal Scientist
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Somebody, somewhere, wrote these protocols. Whether its a hoax, for real, is somewhat irrelevant as the text is already out there. To each his own, whether he/she chooses to believe that the Zionists are the root of all evil, or not. I will continue to live my life taking care of those people and those issues that are dearest to me. If someone tries to block me, whether they are Zionists, Muslim, Protestant, you name it ... then they are a problem I have to fix. Thats really what it boils down for me.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 17:29 | 841781 High Plains Drifter
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You should have heard the whining about the protocols when they first came out. People that were very near when this came out in Russia, would disagree with your assertion that they are "forgery" whatever that means in this context. however, does any of the following sound familiar? hmmm, sounds like what is happening today , doesn't it? Is it any wonder?

A summary of the The Protocols of Zion Jews are superior to the rest of humanity (called "goyim"), who are but mere "beasts" or "cattle" compared to the Jews. The goyim should be exterminated for the most part, with only enough left remaining to be Jews' slaves and servants, and these goyim ruled by despotic Jewish World Government, with all the wealth of the world being transferred to the Jews. In order to achieve this objective, the following plans are to be implemented:

Control gold and banking in order to control governments through the money power (Protocol 1) -

Control the governments of the goyim from behind the scenes -Rule by force, violence, fear, bribery, blackmail, treachery, and deceit -

Destroy the minds of the goyim through subversion of the "education" system -Reduce the goyim to poverty and serfdom, and keep them in perpetual labor to distract their minds from resisting the Jews -

Use communism to destroy the aristocracy of the goyim nations (Protocol 3) -

Destroy belief in God among the goyim, and replace it with materialism (Protocol 4) -

Lead the masses by lies via the jews' controlled press -

Use speculation, as opposed to sound investing, to transfer the wealth of the world into the Jews' hands (Protocol 6) -

Destroy the youth of the goyim through false doctrines (Protocol 9) -

Take away the liberties of the goyim under the pretense of protecting their safety (Protocol 11) -

Destroy the freedom of the press and bring all organs of the press under the control of the Jews (Protocol 12) -

Use Secret Societies and Freemasonic Lodges as recruiting grounds for goyim agents (Protocol 15) -

Engineer economic depressions to bring down the goyim nations (Protocol 20) -Use the tyranny of usury, and especially lending to governments, to enslave the goyim (Protocol 20) -

Through use of agents in all places of influence, throw the nations of the goyim into turmoil until they willingly accept Jewish World Government (Protocol 9)

When in doubt consult a jewish man to comment on it.

therefore , it is my contention that Darwinism, was pushed in order to eliminate God from the goy belief systems. Can you imagine why this loser, ever was promoted as much as he was? Why was that? You ever notice how they take these losers and make them someone ,especially when these losers are proposing stupid ideas and theories that they want to pursue and postulate to the gullible goyim.

for comment on this, we go to another jewish man, Henry Makow.

Darwin Was an Illuminati Shill


your witness.

Sat, 01/01/2011 - 23:05 | 842158 CD
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That many of the 'protocols' are being implemented is not in question. But if you were in a position to implement them, wouldn't you WANT to make sure the 'blame' could be assigned to a very discrete and identifiable group?

There are many enemies of the freedom of mankind, but I am not sure Darwin is necessarily the best adversary to choose.

Disinformation is a long-practiced art, and some are better at it than others.

Check out Mr. Golitsyn's story:


Sat, 01/01/2011 - 17:28 | 841786 MobBarley
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In so much as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is, in one sense, being a work of imagination, a work of Art, and since life imitates Art to such a degree, to what degree would you say it is apparent that life actually HAS imitated art in this case?

To what degree should we blame George Orwell for creating our present world?

Indeed, perhaps we are to blame when we fail to imagine a better world for the future.



Sat, 01/01/2011 - 17:51 | 841808 High Plains Drifter
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Now we have "death panels" on the Obama health plan that was just passed recently. Then we have the United Nations agenda 21, sustainable development in which they want to get rid of many "human weeds" that need to be killed off.

sounds like the stuff talked about in the protocols , doesn't it.

We can imagine the world we want to live in all we want to. But the way the world works is this. Money is power and power is money, and those who have the money, have the power. Right now, who has the money and who has the power?

"Give me control of a nation's money
and I care not who makes the laws."

Mayer Amschel Rothschild

so its very simple. All we have to do is get rid of the FED. Now it is a new year and soon there will be new puppets, in the seats of power that the people have given them. Let us watch and see , this man , called Ron Paul. It is put up time or shut up time. Why a man who is 75 years old wants to continue fooling around up in Washington DC, I do not know but he had better shit or get off of the pot. Quit talking the talk ,and start walking the walk. If he doesn't , then we will know, he was a false echo on our radar screen as I already think he is, but I wait for confirmation of this.

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