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New York Fed On Shadow Banking

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The chart below demonstrates vividly why any attempt to restart the securitization machine is doomed to fail.

Another interesting discussion is the consistent decline of leverage at primary dealers (see p.10).

And here is the Fed's prescient observations on leverage and liquidity:

Financial crises tend to be preceded by marked increases of leverage.

The fluctuations of credit in the context of secured lending expose the fallacy of the "lump of liquidity" in the financial system. The language of "liquidity" suggests a stock of available funding in the financial system which is redistributed as needed. However, when liquidity dries up, it disappears altogether rather than being re-allocated elsewhere. When haircuts rise, all balance sheets shrink in unison, resulting in a generalized decline in the willingness to lend. In this sense, liquidity should be understood in terms of the growth of balance sheets (i.e. as a flow), rather than as a stock.

Worthwhile read.

 




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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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REPOST; but this needs to get some attention http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkf8VG3HL_8

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 14:55 | Link to Comment texpat
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It's just the Kucinich - Barofsky thing again. Pretty good if you haven't seen it.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:07 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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fuck it, i don't have C-Span here in Europe ... i stumbled upon this video like half an hour ago .... and, when i think about what is said in that video, i don't understand why was i so surprised in the first place .. oh well .. fuck it now ...

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:31 | Link to Comment Bobby Fischer36
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I just saw it for the first time myself..Cheeky thanks for the link.

While I was there I checked out this Greyson and Bernanke piece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ECLxK2YTs&NR=1

2:47 minutes in Bernanke testifies that they are extending credit to americans. What gives?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:04 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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Bernanke lied. Thats the only thing he knows how to do. And considering that, with Barofsky's testimony, he was caught in a flat out lie, just think about how many other thing has he kept beneath public sight, or buried them in some dark chamber under the FEDs building .... but it seems to me that, people just don't care about this sort of thing, and not just average joes, but professional likewise, like some sort of over saturation came into the game and made everyone dull and not interested in this .. well, all i can do is provide information, nothing more ...

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:05 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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what i meant was as a channel ... but thanks

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/29/2009 - 14:49 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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Can printing ever produce inflation or merely some strange hybrid of hyperinflation/stagflation?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 14:57 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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good question.  i have a feeling we are gonna find out.

regarding the post, I am not sure how the chart shows why securitization will never be restarted, it just shows activity has been dwindling for a while.

i bet if home prices start rising (in nominal terms) someone will securitize some jumbo RMBS.  institutional investors are dumb and have very short memories.

now, whether securitization SHOULD be restarted or not, i would weigh in and say "no fucking way".  in fact we should end GSE securitization as well - loans should be held on balance sheet, period.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:27 | Link to Comment Rex Crotch
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And if securitization is to start back up they need to require the underwriter to hold a significant chunk of the collateral, say 15-20% so you know the loans are not complete shit.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:41 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Step 1: Forget everything you ever learned about monetary theory.

Step 2: Perform a thought experiment where $100 Trillion new dollars are printed; THEY DON'T NEED TO BE PUT INTO CIRCULATION; postulate the impact to the credibility / buying power of existing dollars.

Step 3: Answer these questions: Is it rational to accept old prices for goods and services going forward? Why or why not?

Step 4: Imagine you are a debt holder of the country above.  Are you willing to continue to accept the old returns on your debt going forward?  Why or why not?

Step 5: If printing $100 Trillion is bad, why is printing merely $1 or maybe $3 or $4 Trillion OK?  If printing $100 Trillion is OK, why not just print $1,000 Trillion?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:16 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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i think it is a weird lesser of two evils in that if the casino's bank is busted by $2million and they are allowed to cook up $200,000 new chips out of thin air, everyone still wants to keep playing and ignores it  (figuring that the $2mil will get paid eventually) and the inflation isn't really felt nearterm at all since it will trickle out

 

Ben is bluffin that there is no other game in town and might be right 

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:40 | Link to Comment assumptionblindness
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<<Ben is bluffin that there is no other game in town and might be right>>

An incredible wind fall awaits the owner of any new casino.  It's only a matter of time before a ground breaking ceremony takes place.  I just hope to recognize the moment when the spade of dirt is truned... 

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:55 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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To paraphrase, "the mere existence of new dollars can be inflationary"?

I agree.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 20:59 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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its not if it CAN be inflationary, it is that it IS inflationary ...

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:15 | Link to Comment ex ante
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A good report but about 3 years past due.  Soros wrote about this in 1985 in The Alchemy of Finance, Chapter 3, The Credit and Regulatory Cycle - it's simply a product of his theory of reflexivity of which the last 5 years has been a case study.

and yes Andy, you are correct.  THIS is why the dollar is rallying during de-leveraging.  NOT because of a flight to quality but because the borrowers who are short dollars are paying back their loans thus fewer in the system.  a flight to quality would imply more owners of dollars (like 2YR notes or gold), this is simply a function of fewer shorts.

G Edward Griffin (who is inflation monger) wrote in The Creature from Jekyll Island, Chapter 10, The Mandrake Mechanism, "It is difficult for Americans to come to grips with the fact that their total money supply is backed by nothing but debt, and it is even more mind boggling to visualize that, if everyone paid back all that was borrowed, there would be no money left in existence....  In short all money would disappear"

 

that is what's happening.. money is vanishing.  the Fed has only "printed" a fraction of what has evaporated

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 17:12 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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My visualization of this is of a farmer during the dust bowl, pouring buckets of water on a couple of plants surrounded by desolation with a giant dark cloud of an approaching black blizzard approaching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PX9CwwOx_U

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:02 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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What's funny is that they are so close to the beans without spilling them.  The liquidity flood, followed by the credit seizure, is a tried-and-true plan - not an accident.

 

Whatever the NY Fed might propose, it's guaranteed to be a Fox guarding the FoxHouse.  How far will they go to quell the growing public unrest?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:03 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:18 | Link to Comment DebtorShredder
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The problem is that the FED is fighting with the Keynesians.

Everybody wants to be in the short end of the curve (O/N - 2yr). After that, they get killed because:

1) Supply keeps coming - lower price, higher yields

2) Lenders want to stay as liquid as possible - shorten duration

3) Longer debt rollovers get killed with the higher rates, when the economy is not producing returns to pay for them. This squeezes lenders more, who loaned on asset values that are worth fractions.

Securitization won't work to cure these problems because no one knows what assets are worth until......yikes!

 

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:32 | Link to Comment LuisvonAhn
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They will never be able to print as fast as wealth is disappearing. Hence deflation. Once leverage controls are established, watch out for the downfall.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:45 | Link to Comment LuisvonAhn
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No, wealth destruction. Do you owe any less on your mortgage, car payment, kids tuition, etc...

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 20:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/29/2009 - 17:00 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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Leverage controls?  When are those coming?  Have you seen Goldman's balance sheet lately?  They are adding, not taking away, leverage.

US banks will not see limits on their leverage for the foreseeable future, if ever.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:48 | Link to Comment Bobby Fischer36
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Clive Owen

The trailer looks good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILj3HlaoOCg

 

It all comes back to what is the "end game"

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:53 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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It is a good movie.  You have to pay attention.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:37 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/29/2009 - 17:12 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Outside of "conspiracy" sites, this one might have the most readers who would understand what they were portraying in the movie.

 

I'd advise researching the International Bankers first, to have a general idea of the frame of reference.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:47 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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/agree

Though the big 'secret' in the public BIS data is actually the existence of hundreds of trillions in interest rate swaps -- not credit default swaps.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 21:10 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/30/2009 - 04:55 | Link to Comment agrotera
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Hi Anony.  i put a topic in the "Credit Forum" here titled: "The International: Is it Live or is it Memorex".  So, maybe since you've seen the movie, you can comment.

The title I made for the forum said it all for me.

Thank you!

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:29 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Your entire statement conflates money and credit and as such is completely irrelevant.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 17:15 | Link to Comment Arm
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He is right.  You are wrong.  We use something called "debt based currency" or fiat currency.  Look it up.  Credit is money under this system.  End of story

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 17:17 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Yep..  Fractional banking is a debt based system.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 21:33 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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I know fiat money is debt-based, but your statement amounts to an admission that what we use as "money" has no ability to perform the "store of value" function ascribed to money, and therefor is not money at all.  Is that what you want to do?

If credit is money, then can credit be used as the basis for fractional-reserve lending ad infinitum?  This is essentilly an infinite-leverage system.  Did anyone ever tell the common folks that the money is not a store of wealth?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 18:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/29/2009 - 19:04 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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"$15T would be manageable,"

Says who?  The Fed wants the existing 42T to be kept, plus added on to.

Serfdom forever through debt.  Without debt, you can't own the population.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:36 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/29/2009 - 17:33 | Link to Comment Eagle
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The smoking gun phrase from the FED's  latest Beige Book, for the insane pumping we've seen over and over again:

"Looking ahead, there tended to be a general sense of optimism about the near-term outlook, though contacts in a number of Districts expressed concern about the risk that declining equity markets would affect the real economy."

 

 

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Enter the CONfidence Man on TV and the continued Invisible Hand orders; sounds too early to go all-in short.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 19:05 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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Good find.  It would be nice if sometime in my lifetime someone blew the lid off that scandal.  There is no doubt in my mind the Fed pumped up the equity markets, Bernanke refers to the stock market repeatedly.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 17:50 | Link to Comment TomG
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The graph says "previous three months," and then it only goes

thru Sep-08. All this shows is that issuers realized they were

over their heads back then … in a another universe far, far way.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 18:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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