• Sprott Money
    04/29/2016 - 05:58
    There is unfortunately no basis for renewed optimism that this current litigation will have any meaningful impact on precious metals manipulation – with respect to either silver or gold.

NFP Market Reaction Summary

Tyler Durden's picture

Your rating: None

- advertisements -

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:21 | 1018257 NOTW777
NOTW777's picture

obama news wire responds by call it a "surge" and speaks of the expansionary cycle


Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:25 | 1018275 Ray1968
Ray1968's picture


Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:35 | 1018321 NOTW777
NOTW777's picture

LOL look at this celebration on cnbc - GHOULsbee - best in 2 yrs; unequivocably bullish


Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:34 | 1018602 SheepDog-One
SheepDog-One's picture

There were NO freakin hirings its all LIES!

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:22 | 1018270 NOTW777
Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:36 | 1018289 Cognitive Dissonance
Cognitive Dissonance's picture

I nominate Gross for the understatement ("obvious" sub category) of the year.

Let's stop the year right here and just vote.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:23 | 1018271 John Law Lives
John Law Lives's picture

<<<  And we will eventually need wage price inflation to match the commodity price inflation we have already engineered  >>>

As an engineer, I take great exception to your use of the word "engineered" when referring to the practice of printing money.  It is not "engineering".  It is rigging.


Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:25 | 1018273 Cognitive Dissonance
Cognitive Dissonance's picture

New businesses were assumed to have added 112K jobs per the birth/death adjustment. 

It's not even an assumption any more considering the once a year "adjustments " to the adjustment. It's a bald faced lie.

The spade has been called.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:34 | 1018604 SheepDog-One
SheepDog-One's picture

CD- Martial Law since 2001 !!

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:24 | 1018278 unwashedmass
unwashedmass's picture


you have to wonder how much of the "low wage pressure" is being subsidized by food stamps -- the stamps giving small business a little breathing room on the pressure to raise employee wages to cope with the skyrocketing cost of living.

Soon, Ben will be subsidizing the entire world. I just wish I knew where the line was forming for people like me.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:07 | 1018454 MachoMan
MachoMan's picture

I like to call it the "walmart veil" of standard of living decreases...  In the end, ridiculously cheap/low cost leader mega stores have made it possible to get by with virtually nothing...  now, even the stores are having a hard time finding margin and not passing on rising costs to consumers...  it cannot continue for very long as there are no consumer savings upon which to rely.

The low wage pressure has been subsidized by imported labor, mega low cost leader retailers (walmart, et al, for consumer necessities), e-tailers (low overhead/no sales tax for consumer discretionary), you name it.  Eventually, you run out of people able or willing to continue subsidizing...  we may be there.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:25 | 1018282 Robslob
Robslob's picture

Then clearly payroll tax should "surge" as well.

The word that comes to mind is "trapped" when one thinks of the Fed...on the other hand more people earning less valuable dollars has and will always be their desire.

Maybe it is us who are trapped?

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:28 | 1018292 Johnny Lawrence
Johnny Lawrence's picture

Cheer up, assholes:

"These number can be sustained and built on," economist Joel Naroff at Naroff Economic Advisors. "The economy is recovering, there is no question about it. Businesses are finally taking some of those profits they are earning and putting them back into the work force."

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:30 | 1018304 LawsofPhysics
LawsofPhysics's picture

Then end the Fed POMO (taxpayer rape).

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:34 | 1018310 Johnny Lawrence
Johnny Lawrence's picture

I'm in the process of sending out market commentary to my clients, and it has to go through compliance first.  I've included a section about how banks are flipping newly-issued Treasuries over to the Federal Reserve.  Naturally, compliance keeps coming back to me telling me to revise that section.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:55 | 1018393 iinthesky
iinthesky's picture

And they don't tell you why? Ask them to revise it for you however they like. They seem to think they know better than you do anyhow. Tell them to f*k off!

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:23 | 1018533 Johnny Lawrence
Johnny Lawrence's picture

It's a terrible industry, my friend.  ZHers complain about what's going on at the highest levels of the banks, but the shit that goes on at the financial advisory level is also absurb.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:30 | 1018300 pendragon
pendragon's picture

eurodollars rallied 10 ticks...when stocks are basically flat? the whole market is broken

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:38 | 1018326 TruthInSunshine
TruthInSunshine's picture


Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:34 | 1018312 Eric Cartman
Eric Cartman's picture

200,000... wow, what a "surge." Obama is a true politician.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:36 | 1018319 alien-IQ
alien-IQ's picture

the only market reaction that really matters: USD tanking. Silver heading over 35 and gold parabolic as well.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:37 | 1018324 MiningJunkie
MiningJunkie's picture

Who gives a shit? The stock market is in the hands of the Fed, the U.S. Treasury and Wall Street so it literally CANNOT go down. Greenspan's remarks about how the "Wealth Effect" is being scuppered by government actions means government will not dare allow a change in policy. The U.S. currency will continue to track lower against hard assets such that the tax on the U.S. middle and working classes will grow to be unpalatable. At that point, policy will shift and all risk assets will crash.

Until then, BTFD.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:39 | 1018329 TruthInSunshine
TruthInSunshine's picture
Fed Policy Makers Signal Abrupt End to Bond Purchases in June

Alleged 'green shoots' have killed QE3.

This almost makes me believe it's possible that good statistics are being spun to allow Bernanke an exit, since the heat was becoming too great.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:47 | 1018357 Spalding_Smailes
Spalding_Smailes's picture

But , but , but .....


Turd has promised QE 3, QE 4, QE 7 ...... His entire pitch is centered on this. All the bugs have been spouting the same ....


What happens to gold • silver with no QE ???? I guess this is not Japan, Lol

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:07 | 1018456 earnyermoney
earnyermoney's picture

Fed BS.

With BB and the Obama administration equating the stock market and ecomony, no way in hell QE is ended risking an equity crash prior to November of 2012.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:19 | 1018485 Spalding_Smailes
Spalding_Smailes's picture

Have you seen the blowout earnings by most businesses over the last 8 quarters. Every quarter is getting better.


All BS ? So QE and Pomo are driving the numbers in a • 14 Trillion GDP  economy • Cat, Boeing, Halliburton, Merck , Coke, Pepsi, Chipotle, Macy's .....


Association of American Railroads

“The Association of American Railroads (AAR) today reported rail traffic for the week ending Feb. 26, 2011, saw gains with U.S. railroads originating 296,252 carloads, up 2.4 percent compared with the same week last year. Intermodal volume for the week was also up, totaling 220,589 trailers and containers, up 7.2 percent compared with the same week in 2010.Fourteen of the 20 carload commodity groups posted increases from the comparable week in 2010. Those groups posting significant increases included: metallic ores, up 78.2; nonmetallic minerals, up 12.4 percent; and stone, clay and glass products, up 10.4 percent. Those commodity groups reporting a significant drop in weekly traffic included: waste and nonferrous scrap, down 17.2 percent; grain mill products, down 16 percent; farm products except grain, down 15.4 percent, and primary forest products, down 10.8 percent.For the first eight weeks of 2011, U.S. railroads reported cumulative volume of 2,277,689 carloads, up 6.1 percent from last year, and 1,744,929 trailers and containers, up 8.9 percent from the same point"



Fri, 03/04/2011 - 12:37 | 1018968 william the bastard
william the bastard's picture

Whwn QE ends gold/silver will drop by 1/3-1/2

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:44 | 1018344 Cursive
Cursive's picture

Fed is winning the game of chicken? Surely Knight capital jests.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:47 | 1018354 EscapeKey
EscapeKey's picture

Silver @ 35.11

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:32 | 1018598 Urban Roman
Urban Roman's picture

35.35 now and it has a woodie. Max's silver clamor perhaps?


Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:47 | 1018355 SWRichmond
SWRichmond's picture

Dollar just took a dive.  What now?


Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:47 | 1018356 mynhair
mynhair's picture

Market reaction?  What Market?

More zippo volume, I see.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:49 | 1018363 ciscokid1
ciscokid1's picture

Since U6 is unchanged and U3 declined, how do we know if enough people dropped out of U6 to reflect a decline in U3?  Maybe something on shadowstats?

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:50 | 1018369 Panafrican Funk...
Panafrican Funktron Robot's picture


Chart I did using BLS data combining total full time wage and salary workers * average weekly earnings.  CPI adjusted to 1982-1984 chained dollars.  From the 2007 peak, the total basket of people in full-time jobs are making exactly $100 billion dollars less, in real terms, than in 2007.  They are making $20 billion less than last year.


Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:50 | 1018371 lieutenantjohnchard
lieutenantjohnchard's picture

nfp was very bullish for jpm as some of zh's perma bulls might say. as more folks drop out of the labor pool and jump into the welfare stamp program jpm can monetize them next year to the tune of $7b net vs yoy of $5.5 billion.

so the guy who said goldman could find a way to monetize a circulating drain of poop at the end of times in america really wasn't too far off with these guys.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:07 | 1018460 Cursive
Cursive's picture

That sums it up well, lieutenant.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:12 | 1018487 TruthInSunshine
TruthInSunshine's picture

Goldman Sach's new motto:

Be The Drain

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:19 | 1018518 lieutenantjohnchard
lieutenantjohnchard's picture

as ty would say: nanananana.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:53 | 1018378 Josh Randall
Josh Randall's picture

I knew these jobs would show up once it stopped snowing

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 10:54 | 1018390 bankonzhongguo
bankonzhongguo's picture

I stumble into local Chamber and Rotary meetings for the last 2 years.  In that time, I am the only guy that started a business and hired people and not that many either and certainly not at wages that could support a family.

If you want to hitch your wagon to wall street and the BLS BS then go ahead.  Eventaully, you'll be walking down main street soon enough at night. Alone.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:17 | 1018507 PicassoInActions
PicassoInActions's picture

OK, since the majority of people here are smarter than me, may be some1 can answer my Q

If they were expecting 200k NFP how come that unemployment rate was expected to be higher?

I understand that they are using diff formula, but considering that numbers from jan and feb were OK, more people were kicked off from unemployment and we had at 9.0 - how the fuck that did they come up with 9.1 expectation?

It seems that more people they add to NFP , less people apply for unemployment and they expect the unemployment rate to go up.

May be i am wrong, but may be those predictors jsut bought their diplomas on the black market.




Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:26 | 1018563 Cognitive Dissonance
Cognitive Dissonance's picture

You need to do some research on exactly what NFP is and how it's calculated.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:36 | 1018616 SheepDog-One
SheepDog-One's picture

CD- Like you said long ago, never forget people we're in an economic martial law and they report whatever they want! Its all BS theyre keeping the sheeple lulled until its slaughterhouse time! Which I sense is VERY near!

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 12:48 | 1019031 Cognitive Dissonance
Cognitive Dissonance's picture

...never forget people we're in an economic martial law...

Since 09/11/2001


Fri, 03/04/2011 - 14:10 | 1019439 robobbob
robobbob's picture

another excellant piece CD

I'm sorry I missed it first time around

thanks for posting the link

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:29 | 1018582 Eally Ucked
Eally Ucked's picture

who cares about numbers, workweek declined from 34.3 to 34.2. 140 mln workers that means 14 mln hours decline. 14 mln hours devided by 40 hr week is is about 350 k jobs lost or shared. Why not to go 25 hr week and get rid of unemployment?

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 11:34 | 1018607 SheepDog-One
SheepDog-One's picture

Its a controlled demolition people!

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 12:42 | 1018996 Roi
Roi's picture

Social Engineering - The act of mistaking people for machines...

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 12:54 | 1019065 Fearless Rick
Fearless Rick's picture

Classic buy the rumor (yesterday, probably released to insiders) and sell the news, especially since ZH's NFP cheat sheet exposed the trade yesterday.

Now that Wall Street has sold the news and WTI is over $103, and gas is up to $3.50 or more on average, you all know what time it is...


Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!