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NFP Market Reaction Summary
Summary market reaction to NFP data from Knight Capital:
NFP 192K v 196KE, prior 36K revised to 63K Private 222K v 200KE, prior 50K revised to 68K Manufacturing 33K v 49KE, prior 49K revised to 53K Unemployment Rate 8.9% v 9.1%E, prior 9.0%
Unemployment rate down to 8.922% from 9.050% as the participation rate held steady at 64.2% after dropping in Jan. Household employment up 250K during the month, while the not in labor force category rose 87K. Big gains occurred in construction and nondurable goods manufacturing as well as services, transportation and warehouse, information services, financial services, education and health services, and leisure and hospitality. The government shed jobs during the period. New businesses were assumed to have added 112K jobs per the birth/death adjustment. The diffusion index for private employment rose to 68.2, indicating widespread job gains.
The front end of the curve rallied on the news, but still reflects a sizable chance (~28%) of a rate hike by year end. The job gains look to be on track, sustainable, and reflective of a population makeup where the assumptions of 150K-200K gains for a “steady state” of unemployment might no longer ring true (as a wise client pointed out to us recently). We would like to see further gains in the participation rate, which is about 200bp lower than the pre-crisis era, before we officially think that QE2 will be the end of the process. For now, the possibility of a QE2 extension or QE3 introduction post June appears to be lowered. The Fed will want that participation rate up too – as you cannot engender wage price inflation without it in all likelihood. And we will eventually need wage price inflation to match the commodity price inflation we have already engineered. For now, the Fed appears to finally be winning (however slightly) the game of chicken it is playing with the twin inflations.
And Goldman's permabullish take:
KEY NUMBERS:
Nonfarm payrolls +192k in Feb vs. GS +200k, median forecast +196k.
Unemployment rate falls 0.1 point to 8.9% in Feb vs. GS and median forecast 9.1%.
Average hourly earnings flat in Feb vs. GS +0.1%, median forecast +0.2%.
MAIN POINTS:
1. Nonfarm payrolls rose 192,000 in February, basically in line with expectations. Moreover, payroll growth in December and January was revised up by a cumulative 58,000. As anticipated, the February increase appears to have received a boost from bad weather in January, as construction payrolls increased by 33,000 (versus a loss of 22,000 in January). At 33,000 the gain in manufacturing was weaker than the strength in recent manufacturing surveys would have suggested. Government employment fell 30,000, due to weakness in the state and local sector.
2. The household survey, however, was stronger than expected. In particular, the unemployment rate dropped another tenth (to 8.922%) due to a firm gain in employment (+250,000) and unchanged labor force participation (at 64.2%). The employment gain was also strong on a "payroll-adjusted" basis, up 342,000 on the month. The employment/population ratio remained unchanged at 58.4%. The decline in unemployment was broad based across different measures of unemployment; for example, the U6 unemployment rate, which counts marginally attached workers and those working part-time for economic reasons, declined by two tenths to 15.9%.
3. Back in the survey of establishments, the nonfarm workweek and average hourly earnings both remained unchanged, pushing the year-to-year trend in wages down to 1.7%.
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obama news wire responds by call it a "surge" and speaks of the expansionary cycle
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/February-payrolls-surge-rb-1838430983.html...
unfuckingbelievable
LOL look at this celebration on cnbc - GHOULsbee - best in 2 yrs; unequivocably bullish
wonderful
There were NO freakin hirings its all LIES!
I nominate Gross for the understatement ("obvious" sub category) of the year.
Let's stop the year right here and just vote.
<<< And we will eventually need wage price inflation to match the commodity price inflation we have already engineered >>>
As an engineer, I take great exception to your use of the word "engineered" when referring to the practice of printing money. It is not "engineering". It is rigging.
It's not even an assumption any more considering the once a year "adjustments " to the adjustment. It's a bald faced lie.
The spade has been called.
CD- Martial Law since 2001 !!
09/11/2001 to be exact.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/american-coup-d%E2%80%99%C3%A9tat-%E2%80%93-first-world-nation-style
you have to wonder how much of the "low wage pressure" is being subsidized by food stamps -- the stamps giving small business a little breathing room on the pressure to raise employee wages to cope with the skyrocketing cost of living.
Soon, Ben will be subsidizing the entire world. I just wish I knew where the line was forming for people like me.
I like to call it the "walmart veil" of standard of living decreases... In the end, ridiculously cheap/low cost leader mega stores have made it possible to get by with virtually nothing... now, even the stores are having a hard time finding margin and not passing on rising costs to consumers... it cannot continue for very long as there are no consumer savings upon which to rely.
The low wage pressure has been subsidized by imported labor, mega low cost leader retailers (walmart, et al, for consumer necessities), e-tailers (low overhead/no sales tax for consumer discretionary), you name it. Eventually, you run out of people able or willing to continue subsidizing... we may be there.
Then clearly payroll tax should "surge" as well.
The word that comes to mind is "trapped" when one thinks of the Fed...on the other hand more people earning less valuable dollars has and will always be their desire.
Maybe it is us who are trapped?
Cheer up, assholes:
"These number can be sustained and built on," economist Joel Naroff at Naroff Economic Advisors. "The economy is recovering, there is no question about it. Businesses are finally taking some of those profits they are earning and putting them back into the work force."
Then end the Fed POMO (taxpayer rape).
I'm in the process of sending out market commentary to my clients, and it has to go through compliance first. I've included a section about how banks are flipping newly-issued Treasuries over to the Federal Reserve. Naturally, compliance keeps coming back to me telling me to revise that section.
And they don't tell you why? Ask them to revise it for you however they like. They seem to think they know better than you do anyhow. Tell them to f*k off!
It's a terrible industry, my friend. ZHers complain about what's going on at the highest levels of the banks, but the shit that goes on at the financial advisory level is also absurb.
eurodollars rallied 10 ticks...when stocks are basically flat? the whole market is broken
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200,000... wow, what a "surge." Obama is a true politician.
the only market reaction that really matters: USD tanking. Silver heading over 35 and gold parabolic as well.
Who gives a shit? The stock market is in the hands of the Fed, the U.S. Treasury and Wall Street so it literally CANNOT go down. Greenspan's remarks about how the "Wealth Effect" is being scuppered by government actions means government will not dare allow a change in policy. The U.S. currency will continue to track lower against hard assets such that the tax on the U.S. middle and working classes will grow to be unpalatable. At that point, policy will shift and all risk assets will crash.
Until then, BTFD.
Alleged 'green shoots' have killed QE3.
This almost makes me believe it's possible that good statistics are being spun to allow Bernanke an exit, since the heat was becoming too great.
But , but , but .....
Turd has promised QE 3, QE 4, QE 7 ...... His entire pitch is centered on this. All the bugs have been spouting the same ....
What happens to gold • silver with no QE ???? I guess this is not Japan, Lol
Fed BS.
With BB and the Obama administration equating the stock market and ecomony, no way in hell QE is ended risking an equity crash prior to November of 2012.
Have you seen the blowout earnings by most businesses over the last 8 quarters. Every quarter is getting better.
All BS ? So QE and Pomo are driving the numbers in a • 14 Trillion GDP economy • Cat, Boeing, Halliburton, Merck , Coke, Pepsi, Chipotle, Macy's .....
Association of American Railroads
“The Association of American Railroads (AAR) today reported rail traffic for the week ending Feb. 26, 2011, saw gains with U.S. railroads originating 296,252 carloads, up 2.4 percent compared with the same week last year. Intermodal volume for the week was also up, totaling 220,589 trailers and containers, up 7.2 percent compared with the same week in 2010.Fourteen of the 20 carload commodity groups posted increases from the comparable week in 2010. Those groups posting significant increases included: metallic ores, up 78.2; nonmetallic minerals, up 12.4 percent; and stone, clay and glass products, up 10.4 percent. Those commodity groups reporting a significant drop in weekly traffic included: waste and nonferrous scrap, down 17.2 percent; grain mill products, down 16 percent; farm products except grain, down 15.4 percent, and primary forest products, down 10.8 percent.For the first eight weeks of 2011, U.S. railroads reported cumulative volume of 2,277,689 carloads, up 6.1 percent from last year, and 1,744,929 trailers and containers, up 8.9 percent from the same point"
Whwn QE ends gold/silver will drop by 1/3-1/2
Fed is winning the game of chicken? Surely Knight capital jests.
Silver @ 35.11
35.35 now and it has a woodie. Max's silver clamor perhaps?
http://maxkeiser.com/2011/03/04/maxs-silver-clamor/
Dollar just took a dive. What now?
:)
Market reaction? What Market?
More zippo volume, I see.
Since U6 is unchanged and U3 declined, how do we know if enough people dropped out of U6 to reflect a decline in U3? Maybe something on shadowstats?
http://i51.tinypic.com/1h9zio.png
Chart I did using BLS data combining total full time wage and salary workers * average weekly earnings. CPI adjusted to 1982-1984 chained dollars. From the 2007 peak, the total basket of people in full-time jobs are making exactly $100 billion dollars less, in real terms, than in 2007. They are making $20 billion less than last year.
http://manifestdeconstruction.blogspot.com/2011/03/full-time-workers-were-100-billion.html
nfp was very bullish for jpm as some of zh's perma bulls might say. as more folks drop out of the labor pool and jump into the welfare stamp program jpm can monetize them next year to the tune of $7b net vs yoy of $5.5 billion.
so the guy who said goldman could find a way to monetize a circulating drain of poop at the end of times in america really wasn't too far off with these guys.
That sums it up well, lieutenant.
Goldman Sach's new motto:
Be The Drain
as ty would say: nanananana.
I knew these jobs would show up once it stopped snowing
I stumble into local Chamber and Rotary meetings for the last 2 years. In that time, I am the only guy that started a business and hired people and not that many either and certainly not at wages that could support a family.
If you want to hitch your wagon to wall street and the BLS BS then go ahead. Eventaully, you'll be walking down main street soon enough at night. Alone.
OK, since the majority of people here are smarter than me, may be some1 can answer my Q
If they were expecting 200k NFP how come that unemployment rate was expected to be higher?
I understand that they are using diff formula, but considering that numbers from jan and feb were OK, more people were kicked off from unemployment and we had at 9.0 - how the fuck that did they come up with 9.1 expectation?
It seems that more people they add to NFP , less people apply for unemployment and they expect the unemployment rate to go up.
May be i am wrong, but may be those predictors jsut bought their diplomas on the black market.
You need to do some research on exactly what NFP is and how it's calculated.
CD- Like you said long ago, never forget people we're in an economic martial law and they report whatever they want! Its all BS theyre keeping the sheeple lulled until its slaughterhouse time! Which I sense is VERY near!
Since 09/11/2001
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/american-coup-d%E2%80%99%C3%A9tat-%E2%80%93-first-world-nation-style
another excellant piece CD
I'm sorry I missed it first time around
thanks for posting the link
who cares about numbers, workweek declined from 34.3 to 34.2. 140 mln workers that means 14 mln hours decline. 14 mln hours devided by 40 hr week is is about 350 k jobs lost or shared. Why not to go 25 hr week and get rid of unemployment?
Its a controlled demolition people!
Social Engineering - The act of mistaking people for machines...
Classic buy the rumor (yesterday, probably released to insiders) and sell the news, especially since ZH's NFP cheat sheet exposed the trade yesterday.
Now that Wall Street has sold the news and WTI is over $103, and gas is up to $3.50 or more on average, you all know what time it is...
Time to BUY THE FUCKING DIP YOU FUCKING IDIOT (BTFDYFI)
How can people even remotely buy into that tripe? Beyond belief
Who in their right fucking mind is betting on a rate hike this year?
That is essentially the equivalent of betting Bernanke will no longer be Fed chairman - as long as he is in, there will be no rate hikes, maybe forever.
If QE stops, rates are going to drop, as are stocks, PMs, etc. I am long PMs, and am a firm believer - as long as the money printing continues. If/when it stops, FRNs become scarcer by the day.
I don't believe QE will stop for a long time, if ever, so why the fuck would Bernanke raise rates?
Bernanke reminds me of the game many teenagers played in the 60's.
It is called Chicken. 2 Guys would gun their cars toward the edge of the cliff and the one that stopped first was Chicken.
Bernanke is Gunning the Car toward the end of the Cliff a 150 miles per hour. The edge is getting near but he does not want to lose and be called Chicken. At this point we all wonder if he can put on the breaks soon enough not to go over the cliff.
Problem is if he runs of the cliff that means that he takes all Americans with him and it will not only be his Death (not in reality, hypothetically) but the Death of the Country.
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