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NHK Says Water Used To Douse Reactors May Have Leaked Into The Ocean
Last week we asked what could possibly be worse than a "grave" situation (as Fukushima was described by the IAEA). We now have our answer:
*WATER DOUSED ON REACTORS MAY HAVE LEAKED TO OCEAN, NHK SAYS
*NHK CITES JAPAN NUCLEAR AND INDUSTRIAL SAFETY AGENCY
And scene, as mutated, ill-tempered seabass and sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their heads rise out of the ocean take over the mainland.
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Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks C3PO is a real robot.
/sarc ozy
I'm speechless.
Obviously I'm no nuclear expert so I only have one simple question: "if you spend billions on containment why isn't the utter destruction of said containment structure not the problem"? Probably sounds stupid but "spraying water" sounds like "spraying radiation" to me--so what's the point of the containment structure in the first place? I mean Three Mile Island had a meltdown "but the containment held." Ahhh--"the containment held"--as in--"the radioactive material was contained." I thought that was the purpose of the "contaiment," no?
Waste Storage Site: Using plate tectonic in your favor.
If the Mid-Alantic Ridge is splitting apart (a Divergent Plate Boundary) and just off Japan (Marianas Trench for example) is a Subduction zone. One plate sinking below the other)
See Oceanic-Oceanic Convergence
http://www.platetectonics.com/book/page_5.asp
This area the earth is sinking back into the mantle (asthenosphere) and is remelted.
Question, Why don't we put it in cement containers(or some such) and dump the Nuclear waste there to be taken down in to the crust?
http://csmres.jmu.edu/geollab/vageol/vahist/plates.html
Did you just ask why we don't send potential nuclear bombs into the crust?
I'm no scientist but that just doesn't sound like a good idea.
I'm also wondering if there is elevated levels of radiation (Caesium/Iodine) in the tap water in Tokyo, if part of one of the cores hasn't hit the water table yet?
cores in the water table would mean plutonium in the water. This is adjacent to the ocean, water table is not an issue and you think it migrated all the way to tokyo already?
You watched China Syndrome too many times, dude...
Topless seabass with hairy nipples gone wild.
goddamn lol
It's been going in the water for a week.
And we know Obama is Brazil...
All at the same time? Coincidence?Two of the world's richest men, software pioneer Bill Gates and investor Warren Buffett, are set to visit India this week to persuade the
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gVFckXk4I-KrIL0D800c9sQ9DSMw?docId=CNG.26f4275431f3c791c245845a136980cf.11a1
That would appear to chime with remarks on Monday by General Electric Co Chief Executive Jeff Immelt who, on a visit to New Delhi, brushed off concerns over ... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Corruption-threatens-Indias-high-growth-momentum-KPMG/articleshow/7747292.cmsAfter 2 atomic bombs forced Japan to surrender, the Emperor's message to the citizens was "the war has not necessarily gone in our favor".
Through this cultural lens we should view their public announcements.
I've had that thought several times over the past week. These are people who didn't get it after the firebombings razed their nation and we dropped the first atomic bomb.
Denial seems to run straight through Japan's soul.
"Little Dick" syndrome.
Large clitoris syndrome. Respectfully.
hi YC, i concur. respectfully, indeed!
either you are self-junking, voluminously, or you have only managed to piss off one person, or you are shrooming yer ass off, two sentences is exhausting, and the junk is practically obligatory due to the very poignancy of the shroooming artform, irself.
all are forgive-able, but i want to see you @ 0800 tomorrow in the Chaplain's Office in a powder blue jumpsuit, willing to cry.
respectfully.
It's the mineral water my friend.
The whole Japanese cabinet should be made to swim naked in that shit, throw some world bank officials in there too...
The HAARP cabinet has been given goldman sized bonuses for marksmanship.
Keep on strumming JUDY. You're getting close.
Full moonbats out in force.
We would actually attack a NUCLEAR ARMED country with our earthquake gun? Are you fucking nuts?
Japan has one of the strongest navies on the planet as well as 100,000kg of plutonium, advanced rockets/missiles, guidance, satellites, etc.
invisible earthquake gun, big difference
+1
oh, shit, trav! where can we hide? that last tete-a-tete w/ china on the "open" seas---everyone got home safe, at least.
moonbats are singing to me, too: "...0, the boots on the ground are made in China, and they've got American feet in them,...0..."
we had some of our navy thingies around japan, as usual, until someone ordered them to get tf outa there, NOW.
probably afraid of repercussions for using the e.k'wake gun... either that, or they were off in the imaginary: if chernobyl was a 7, this is a fuking 10!, and they went away, somewhere, to deal with more normal insanity.
Your ships log is well in order!
I enjoy your entries. I really mean that!
Moons are a hinderence. I'm on a jet right now.
Well of course some got into the ocean. The plant is right on the Ocean. We look forward to Biggie sea bass.
Everything got mowed into compost by the Tsunami, and the Japanese are trying desperate last ditch efforts to keep the temperature of the holding tanks, and the reactors down with water pulled from the sea because nothing else is functioning. Seriously, was there ANYONE who didn't know it was all spilling and draining right back into the ocean??
since we have been so carefully shielded from the radio-active info re the temperatures involved with these li'l clustre-cygneznoirz, why don't we just assume that the first 300,000 freaking gallons just vaporized, and extrapolate from there?
Are you still trading eur/chf?
Am I too late for sashimi?
Lets not forget the water table. Confession obviously comes hard.
Where can I get one of those spiffy TEPCO windbreakers?
Salmon sales in British Columbia are going to go through the roof. Fact!
I asked last week where they were pumping the water, and I said in the ocean. It didn't leak anywhere, they pumped it in the ocean. Anyone with any mechanical aptitude knows the water used in these plants is cycled. Cool water pumped into the reactor, turns to steam from the heat of the reactions, then it condensates and is brought back into a tank and cooled further, then recirculated back, its a closed loop system, and they keep it full with make up water added.
These reactors are destroyed. The pictures clearly show all the piping used to circulate the water were completely damaged and broken in half in many spots from the tsunami, and the buildings deteriorated everyday since.
Any water they were pumping into these building was being contamianted and draining back into the sea. They report this like they didn't know or it is a surprise to them. It's all crap, and nothing but lies to cover their a$$es when the SHTF. They know the average public joe Ipad and American Idol maniacs don't have the aptitude to understand any of this, and this is why they play stupid and lie.
sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their heads BITCHESZZZZZZ
Giant vampire squid!!!
My wife just left me but I can always count on zero hedge for a good laugh.
Thanks
LOL! Comment of the day!
hey, tomorrow is another day my friend. believe me when I say that I do know a few who did come to regret this move.
credible, ms ant. sometimes the grass on the other side of the fence is radio-active.
BoJ YEN trades intervention G7 money pumbs, World Bank 'everything is rosy'
all bullish ready to go.
This is the same tactic as the GOM Oil spill and it makes me sick. The Govt. declares the highest level emergency. Close off a zone as big as you can to get the press as far away from any actual damage. Then just control the distribution of information so nothing severely negative gets out.
Oh, and MOST important. DON'T EVER LET ANY QUANTITATIVE INFORMATION OUT IF IT IS NEGATIVE. CONTROL!
Remember the BP data. Nobody could figure out exactly how much oil was spewing out every day? Come on. That is a complete joke. So is this radiation reading at the site "under survey" and nothing from our satellites or our govt. We know exactly how much radiation there is from our satellites. Don't kid yourself.
If the data was GOOD you can be your ass it would be all over the news, and instantly! I guess when one of the reactor buildings blow-up real-time on TV the Govt can't really control that and spin it positively. But they can say that the pipes in the building might just work if they get power to them. CRIMINAL!
How pathetic is CNBC too with Bob PISSSani chirping over and over again that the power cord would be hooked up and solve all the problems.
I really hate conspiracy theories. Really I do. But if you are a poor schlub that relies on the Govt. to tell you the truth during these catastrophes, then you need to do some homework and smarten up. Here's a few quick examples I can name off the top of my head for you to research the Govt. statements/response and the actual truth proven months/years later:
The asbestos at the WTC site -City, state, EPA, Fed
Groundwater contamination near chemical plants -EPA
Thalidomide -FDA
Vioxx -FDA
God there is so many more and better ones, but its late. Others here have them committed to memory so share at will please..
In fact, when the govt wants you to worry, like the swine flu, it is probably safe not to.
Here is your Govt. at work keeping us informed today:
"U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu said the Obama administration believes the worst of the crisis is over. Unit 2, where Tepco connected a 1.5-kilometer (1 mile) power cable March 18 as it tried to revive cooling systems knocked out by the magnitude-9 temblor and tsunami, is the main source of concern, Chu said on CNN’s “State of the Union” program.
“Because of the higher levels of radiation there, we take that as evidence that there might be a breach in that containment vessel,” he said. “But they’re not extraordinarily high, so it appears if there is a breach, it would be a limited breach. But, again, we don’t really know.” http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-19/japan-s-tepco-seeks-to-restore-power-to-damaged-nuclear-plant.html
Here is Chu, the head of our Govt's Energy department speculating that the radiation isn't that high, there was not a breach of any reactor and if there was it's not so bad but then again WE DON'T REALLY KNOW!
Who the hell in their right mind admits that on national television and gets away with it? The MSM is so enslaved by Obama they don't even question this guy's complete fraud and bald-faced lies.
Yes we don't know if we listen to TEPCO or the Japanese Govt. But we DO know if we use our own satellites and tell the American people what the hell is going on.
If anyone here wants to play along, and listen to controlled information that only plays up good news and completely blocks anything else, fine.
Money printing is not going to solve every crisis that happens in the "physical" world!
Something extremely wrong has happened in the past few years. Most of us ZH readers know it. There's not a desire for the truth anymore. Only a desire for CONTROL.
Pray.
How do you get the press away from a nuclear reactor?
In this case it should be obvious, radiation threat. But they are also using a mandatory evacuation zone with military enforcement, JUST LIKE GOM OIL SPILL IN THE US.
I was just doing my best Alex Baldwin impression.
A couple of observations on your post. First, anyone who expects TPTB to disseminate news that might cause social upheaval is naive at best. Why would they ever do that?
If the Japanese government were to say something along the lines of "look, this thing is out of our control. As such, it threatens to render the area surrounding the plant uninhabitiable, contaminate the ocean around the country and potentially put Tokyo at risk" what do you think would happen? While people have been commending the Japanese at soldiering through this crisis, I doubt they would remain as civil as there would be a mad scramble to leave the country. It would result in bedlam and more people might be at risk from the actions of the panicked than from radiation poisoning.
Finally, while I agree that anything coming from Government sources and the MSM should be deeply discounted (they both stand to lose if anything truly upsets social order and the satus quo), this is one thing that cannot be hidden for long. If there are really a lot of nasty elements seeping into the water table and spewing into the atmosphere, someone in Japan will find out and the information will find the light of day.
Aside from pornography and keeping up with your favorite celebrity's 140-character ramblings, the ability to bypass established information sources is the single best thing about the interweb.
Planet X bitchez!
We need to get through the ASSturd belt First!
planet XXX, JJ, and i'm afraid the ass-turds are just getting warmed up! if anything really harmful has escaped into the ecosystem, i'm sure someone will tell us and be able to prove it conclusively, too. oy!
You are on a rant. You go boy!
I'm happy to see my 2 favorite bitchez respond when called.
The neurobiology of pavlovian fear conditioning. JJ's experiment is working. Eye matie?
"it would be a limited breach"
Is that like a modified, limited hangout?
Dead on, Tsunami Effect.
Buy the dip, bitchez!
When I was at Walmart last night getting a case of canned tuna, there was plenty more on the shelf! Anybody got any good recipes?
Tuna Flat Things
1 can tuna in water, drained, add 1 egg, 1 tbsp mayo, 2 tbsp molasses, 5 or 6 saltine crackers to make a doughy mixture. Fry in shallow oil, medium high, brown crispy on both sides. Serves 3 or 4.
plutonium in the ocean
is like crack
for whales....
yeah buy the dip...till the next crisis. AUD risk trade over parity. Money printing saved the world...again.
When I was at Walmart last night getting a case of canned tuna, there was plenty more on the shelf!
Anybody got any good recipes?
If it's chunk light tuna, drain it really well, then add it to sauteed garlic, ginger and veggies--the spicier the better--add soy sauce at the end and a little white wine if you have it, and put in on noodles. Seriously. Cook it real hard, almost charred. Should be pretty dry overall.
You can call it Fukushima Fallout Surprise. But I have been making it for years.
My recipes are GLOWING with enthusiasm! They are great on Milk Bones! YOU are good. LMAO.
Plastic rice is better than seafood for now.
How in the hell is this accident even remotely the same rating as 3 mile island?
It's worse. Location to food sources, variables, lack of transparency. Would you feed your Family the Spinach? POPEYE
TEPCO just made it official. Nuclear fuel rods at Fukushima Plant are damaged.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-now-its-offici...
huh? They admitted fuel rod damage several days ago.
http://fksmwww-cache.cloudapp.net/list_e/agri_le.html
Fukushima Prefecture's prominent, large-scale agricultural and fishery industries play important roles as suppliers of food, not only to Tokyo but also to the nation.
The prefecture boasts Japan's fourth largest farmland area. Because of the favorable climate, many of the agricultural products grown in Japan, including rice, are produced in Fukushima. The prefecture ranks among the top producers of such fruits as peaches, apples and pears and such vegetables as tomatoes and cucumbers, as well as leaf tobacco and raw silk. Livestock farming is also active. Fukushima's 159 kilometer-long Pacific coastline is the site of the prefecture's vigorous fishing and seafood processing industries and the area's haul of fish is among the nation's largest.
The prefecture seeks to ensure the continuing productivity of its agricultural and fishery industries while at the same time working to conserve the natural environment.
I keep telling folks, if you fuck up the Kanto Plain, you fuck up Japan. This is serious beeswax.
How far is the northern edge of the Kanto Plain from the troubled plant?
thanks
Roughly 120 km.
That's it: Doubling my tuna, sardine and salmon stocks tomorrow, then no more. Stopped buying Gulf of Toxico products last year, and now the Pacific is off limits, for years.
The Mercury will counter the effects. After all, it is a heavy metal. I need some old RATT.
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Nobody rides for free.
I've always had a touch of green in me.
Now I'm feeling like getting radical about this.
I don't want anymore drilling, or nuclear proliferation.
I'm willing to head backwards to a lifestyle where the above ugly threats to our very existence are mitigated.
Make deep sea drilling and nuclear energy illiegal - now!
you might be willing, but the BOYZ running the show at BP, Halliburton and GoldSux got other ideas
but you are welcome to ride your bike and eat the GMO carboard; we can't waste fertile soil ( unpolutted by agribusiness) on such useless eaters
I'm walking to work these days and do plan on planting a great big garden full of potatoes and onions in about a month from now. And you, what are you doing?
Energy = civilization.
A cut back on production will not be pretty.
Don't worry, crusty elites of the world have WWIII brewing, and are getting ready to kill off some of their game pieces. Too many are on the board for them to be comfortable with right now. We're going to have a culling of a few billion (or more) people soon enough. A cut back in energy will be a cutback for us, not them--and they'll make sure to use plenty of energy in the inevitable WWIII, too.
For them, it's a game--a display of power. Power is all that matters to them, because when you're already immeasurably rich, how else do you display your success? You do it through that display of power. And nothing states "power" more so than being willing, and capable, of killing obscene amounts of people, while your buddies try to one up you.
"Energy = civilization"
The addtions to "civilization" in the last ten years could be rescinded and life would improve.
Sounds like heaven to me.
Edit: was in reply to another comment but wound up here instead...odd
Keep it OLD Yellow Tokyo Electric.
no comment. just wanted to solve CAPTCHA.
Bottle this shit up and market it under the brand Gammarade™. Ann Coulter can be employed as the spokes person. Gammarade™ could be the hottest new energy drink in the space. It cannot be much worse than the municipal water sold in bottles with labels depicting mountains, rivers, and blue skies. 5% of the profits can be donated to the Bank of Japan to assist in rigging, err, stabilizing the stock market. Profits and population control, the true sweet spot for modern industry. Just ask Monsanto!
I'm no Bonzai, but...
GammarAde
Monetative. I agree with your general concept. But when is it ok for the media/govt to tell the truth about an impending disaster? It's not always a given that people will panic if they are told the truth.
Look at 9/11. We were told to expect more terrorist attacks. People still flew airplanes. We were told that they would hit us again in NY where I live. We went to work, right around the corner from the WTC even! We were told that anthrax was everywhere in the mail and the suspicious white powder would kill us! It didn't and people still opened their mail.
What about Iraq. Did the people panic and kill each other en mass when they knew the bombs were going to start dropping on Bagdad?
How about hurricanes. Even a CAT-f*&ing-5 storm headed toward New Orleans didn't get enough people out of that city in time!
In fact, I'd argue that it would be good sometimes if people did a little bit MORE panicking! Don't you? New Orleans / Katrina is a great example. Get the f*^k out and panic because a storm is going to send you to hell if you don't!
So, my point is, you're never really going to get a panic like you see in the movies unless Godzilla is storming into town. But ultimately it's a lot better to give people real information and let them decide. Come on, you know most people are sheep and won't run if they don't see anyone else running! Even if they are told that an invisible, killer, gamma ray is coming and it may eventually cause cancer and kill you and all of your offspring in 5-20 years time!
most of the people left NO before Katrina. What remained demonstrated decidedly subhuman behavior
Most of the claims about "subhuman behavior" made in the press were later to be proven as myths. I've published on the subject.
What remained in NO were primarily the very old and the very poor who were unable to evacuate.
To claim that these marginalized people as a whole engaged in "decidely subhuman behavior" demonstrates just what kind of a person you are.
What was subhuman was the way that the state and nation abandoned these people.
The same phenomenon seems to be happening as I write in Japan as the old and the poor are left to fend for themselves
Well said Majia. The demonisation of those left abandoned in the Superdome was a deliberate ploy to justify Bush's criminal negligence and incompetence. The fact that after all these years Trav still buys that line is evidence of both his stupidity and gullibility. Or maybe he's just a racist asshole.
Good point. Either way. A little bit of panic would help get people off their asses to do something about the situaiton. The truth in Japan is being eradicated as if it too is subject to radiation sickness!
cool and funny!
It is the three eyed toads you have to keep an eye on. Get an extra one. It might help.
"ill-tempered seabass and sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their heads"
Yes, but how do they taste rolled in glowing kelp?
funny!
TEPCO update on Operation Extension Cord: Hopeful to restore air conditioning to main control room to allow operators to work more comfortably. Systems in reactors will need to be inspected and repaired and this will take more time. Water spraying to continue indefinitely.
Air conditioning. Well, that's progress of a sort.
Has anyone actually been assuming that they have been capturing spilled radioactive water and stashing it somewhere safe? If so, you need to have their head examined. I'm 100% certain that from the start, all of the water they have been dumping, spraying and pumping into those cooling pools has just been running out. Whatever hasn't boiled off into the atmosphere and isn't staying in the pools is obviously splashed around and/or running off back into the ocean. They don't have time to deal with that, and indeed, it is probably the lesser of two evils at this point -- they need to focus on getting the temperatures down as top priority. Having to eat glowing, three-eyed fish later is a smaller problem.
Just remember it's the FOOD CHAIN that's being destroyed. It may not seem like much but watch what happens in the coming weeks/months to the wildlife and then humans.
The Japanese live out of the sea for food. Now what are they going to do?
Human radiation levels are going to sky rocket. This just SUCKS!
Idiots that run these Countries and Companies should be drawn and quartered for being A'Holes!
This is going to end up being alot worse than Chernobyl and they'll tell their citizens that it was like one chest xray. FUKU YOU U Lying KAWKSUCKERS!
They knew it would before they started spraying. It has to. I am sure all the storm drains go to the ocean. I am not saying this is good, just expected.
Water is wet...boilermaker is a douche. Next self-evident truth...
on Sun, 03/20/2011 - 10:07
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Don't be alarmed far worse, meaning they will kill more people and have a greater economic impact, things are happening everyday across the entire planet, they are just less dramatic.
GW and others have been cataloging such things and in the aggregate they are catastrophic.
I guess we can forget Pacific salmon soon.
I had BP Gulf Shrimp the other day and it was pretty greasy.
Surely they aren't going to pump this stuff, unfiltered, in to the ocean. Isn't that just pissing in your own bathwater? The idea was to get water in the spent fuel ponds. There would be run off capture and control just like any other plant. At the very least they should put up dams and contain it to their breakwalls for the time being. Surely they just mean accidental run off? Small amounts, that if they didn't hit the fuel ponds, would just carry small particles from the buildings?
Why can't these dump trucks just replace these reactors with Thorium ones? Seriously, I understand the whole coal industry, but going Thorium seems to have low risk, high reward.
Under the conditons they are working under, I do not think they would have had the time or inclination to try to control the massive amounts of water they are dumping on those plants. And, where would they put it?
save the whales
nuke the ocean ....
One of the whaling ports north of Sendai and its 3 ships were wiped out doing the wave.
Well OBVIOUSLY it's flowing back to the ocean.
Did you think they were pumping water from the ocean into the reactors, and then using a shop vac to capture the runoff to put into a storage tank or something?
Yen Cross, you are a sweetie-pie, the sweetest in the hedge. ;)
Where the hell did you think it was going to go? Didn't you guys see the little Japanese lady with a mop? Those reactors are practically right on the beach. All the water they sprayed, dumped and leaked had to go down hill, which means straight into the ocean. The oceans are turning into a nice soup of toxic waste quickly. Between the oil, sewage, toxic runoff and now nuclear waste I'm guessing all forms of life will be washing up on a beach near you soon....dead of course. Guess I better fill my freezer with wild pacific Salmon, it will be like gold shortly.
salmon bullion...
Picked up half a shelf of salmon today (stale-dated Oct. 2016) and going for the rest tomorrow, then on to the next store. How should I offer it for sale this summer: "Pre-Fukushima Salmon"?, "Pre-Sendai Salmon"? "Pre-Tsunami Salmon"? "Pre-Tepco Tuna" is catchy and should move well at $5/can.
And so much for restaurant ordering of healthy "Blue Water" and "Wild Caught" entrees, soon green water, and wild-eyed.
Investors confidence in Japanese debt reaching tipping point: Moody
http://dawnwires.com/investment-news/moody-says-tipping-point-of-confide...
I spoke of the 4 exposed piers yesterday. My G5 flight cost me 110 USD. Don't mess with me bitches. Oh did Aussie break down.
Godzirra!
Real geniuses here obviously...you guys have no idea how big Pacific is?! It is like pissing into a hurricane.
FUKUSHIMA, Japan (AP) -- Gray smoke rose from two reactor units Monday, temporarily stalling critical work to reconnect power lines and restore cooling systems to stabilize Japan's radiation-leaking nuclear complex.