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NHK Shows Live Coverage Of Smoke Billowing From Fukushima Reactor 3, US Military Assistance May Be Requested
NHK is currently broadcasting live footage from its helicopter showing white smoke from the Fukushima #3 reactor. As we reported earlier, fire was earlier observed in the 8 by 8 meter hole in the outer shell of Reactor 4,which had since extinguished itself. However, that it has been replaced with billowing smoke from a new reactor is not good. Reuters speculates that the smoke is emerging from the fuel pool which is now overheating. It is highly probable that the smoke is radioactive. In a press conference that just concluded Edano said that the area around reactor 1 is too radioactive for TEPCO workers to approach and as such all have been withdrawn. He also said the US military will likely be called in for assistance.
Coverage can be watched after the jump (click on the picture).
And for those who wish a second Geiger reading, below is a brand new live stream showing the radiation cpm in Chiba located just next to Tokyo.
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Radioactive Cubic Zirconia rings for everyone!
Holy shit, breaking news--Japanese gov has removed all workers from the nuclear plant. Evacuation . . .
LOL, CNBC.com:
**NEW** Picture of reactors 3 and 4....
http://epcan.us/jlab-ep/s/ep88140.jpg
Interesting watching Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta (on a street in Japan) with a studio-based American nuclear expert trying to puzzle this out in real time. Anderson is sweating bullets as he asks questions driven by sheer WTF (again, he's in Japan.)
Nuclear expert reminds us of the utility of duct tape and bottled water. Sanjay looks like a deer frozen in headlights, Anderson's just WTF. And calls a commercial break to get to the bottom of this shit.
I was just waking from a tiny nap and saw that scene. It was so surreal hearing it on TV. Talked about the Japanese Prime minister cursing out the power company officials over the phone. I guess the jig is up, no gain in lying about it anymore.
Obama just finished the back 9. He will take care of everything soon ....
I already saw his plan.
He blames BP.
I thought it was all George Bush's fault.
Barack H. Obama hates Japanese People.
And Anderson Cooper look like a Weimaraner
Weimaraner - http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KhDOPABgPZ0/S_5LvHp-c4I/AAAAAAAAFxg/1kDUg4Qk8J...
Cooper - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080319/people-anderson-cooper...
WRONG!!! IT'S George Bush's FAULT!!! <sarc now off>
(sorry DoChen- I typed over you...)
He'll probably take this as a good time to grant amnesty to all the illegals, and maybe make the health care "reform" even worse for consumers than it is now.
Obama is no more than a sublevel employee of Goldman Sachs. Don't expect him to do a goddamn thing for any of us proles.
Would love to see the gut churner Anderson went through as he realizes his grey hairs are possibly mega-fucked.
hey asswipe why don't you blame this on the Jews too since they did invent this shit! Racist moron go post up on some suprematist sites instead of here.
Silence, idiot. Go worship your ineffective, overrated man-child of a president somewhere else. As you may notice, not many on ZH are politically correct (because they think for themselves). Could be a sign you should F off back to HuffPo?
Yes, because criticising Obama - without any mention of his race or colour - is intrinsically rascist.
Yawn. That shit don' work here, bo.
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on Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:44
#1058738
"Interesting watching Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta (on a street in Japan)with a studio-based American nuclear expert trying to puzzle this out in real time"
that's because ac knows, that in this episode of 'dust in the wind, his character gets bitch slapped with a geoduck....
I was just watching that - Sanjay looks REALLY worried... His look says more than all the bullshit reporting that's been going on.
coffee break?
Nuke expert Yoichi Shimatsu on Rense Radio just said around 11pm est that a full meltdown (on #4 I think) will most surely occur at some point and that the explosion will send the really bad stuff high into the jet stream and contaminate half of the US!!!
Order your KI soon.
Yoichi Shimatsu knows less than you do if that is what he claims.
These units were designed to accomodate a "meltdown." It would not present a radiation hazard as long as the containment is not breeched.
Won't the whole thing blowing sky high breach the containment?
"as long as the containment is not breeched"
This is the question, I believe.
Thanks Sushi!
But please do tell us some more about the other things these units were designed to do/not do... like withstand tsunamis, not explode, or leak radiation, etc, etc.
Here is the response to your last query:
"Meltdown" is your term. It is not a recognized term in nuclear engineering.
A "meltdown" is exactly that. Some material reaches a temperature at which it begins to melt. There is no explosion involved.
A nuclear "meltdown" refers to melting of the fuel assemblies which sit within the core of the reactor vessel. There is no explosion involved.
The melted fuel assemblies will fall to a catch basin beneath the reactor. This catch basin forms part of the containment. It is designed to retain the melted material and protect it from exposure to the atmosphere to preclude radiation exposure to the surrounding area.
The only form of "uncontrolled chain reaction" is that of a nuclear explosive device. Once initiated it cannot be stopped. It is beyond human control.
The glow in the dark radium watch dial on your wrist is a consequence of a chain reaction. It is this reaction that creates the glow. But the amount of radium is carefully calculated to ensure that you are not exposed to radiation hazard.
Reactor cores are also controlled reactions. They are specifically designed to ensure that they cannot go supercritical and initiate a nuclear explosion (the uncontrolled chain reaction).
As I expressed in my response to IQ045, a nuclear explosion at this facility is extremely improbable. It ain't gonna happen. Bet you PMs on it.
What is likely to happen is heating of the cladding, release of H2, the explosion of the H2, and a consequent fire. Fire produces lots of hot debris which rises in the atmosphere and travels with the winds. This presents a danger to anyone downwind.
Since Unit 4 is experiencing a boil off of the coolant in the SFP, the heat will rise, H2 will be produced and there will be a fire and a radioactive plume. This produces the same effects as a dirty bomb. This is the danger.
All the crap in the melted core is is unlikely to go anywhere apart from a molten mass on the bottom of the boron infused concerete sub-pan.
The crap lifted into the atmosphere by the fire is going to result in significant health impacts to anyone downwind.
There are 36 million people located about 150 miles from the Fukushima facility.
Which way will the wind be blowing when the H2 explodes?
Feeling lucky punk? Are you?
So what you end up with is a geometrically-irregular pile of enriched U magma. Seems that one potential outcome of that is that the pile of magma has sufficient mass in proximity to support a chain reaction. It could heat-up and burn right through the boron pan. The boron won't mix with the magma until it's too late.
/HIEE
(Holiday Inn Express Effect)
Not enough fissile material present to support a chain reaction.
The size of the molten mass does not matter. The neutron density of the mass does. There is not enough fissile material in the core to support any degree of bang.
It is like suggesting we collect wristwatches and melt down a few thousand and build ourselves a bomb. This is the stuff of Tom Clancy fiction. Sounds bad but is a radiological impossibilty. Making this stuff go bang is quite hard to do.
Glad to hear it & I hope you're right.
It's the pressure in the core they're worried about, that's why they tried to let some pressure out leading to the hydrogen explosions. I'm not going to pretend I know about nuclear reactors but surely if the only danger was radioactive coolant boiling then they'd just drain the coolent and forget about the core?
The core is protected by extremely thick and strong steel, if the pressure gets high enough to pop that then it'll be a GIGANTIC explosion, think of what a boiler does when it blows.
MSM gets it better than you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiXIODVlfXk
Not a big deal.
Japanese Government and IAEA says it's pop tarts in a toaster in the control room.
Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too. When they canceled the project it almost did me in. One day my mind was full to bursting. The next day - nothing. Swept away. But I'll show them. I had a lobotomy in the end.
Lobotomy? A friend of mine had a lobotomy. Inventor of the neutron bomb. It's this big. Fits in a briefcase. No one knows it's there until BLAMO! Eyes melt. Skin explodes. Everybody dead. But working on it can be so...immoral. It's enough to drive you crazy. It drove my friend crazy. Then he had a lobotomy. Now he's well again.
LOL!!!!! I've been mumbling that Repo Man monologue to myself for two days now!!! Brilliant!
Please send down 3 Puffer Glow Fish!
need a camera pointed at fuk-u-shima 24/7.....do not trust the info coming out of TEPCO or government....
you do know all those BP underwater cams were just in someone's fish tank right?
LOL motherfucker! :)))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts4YHvJYQAI
oh, that's where the smoke is coming from....my bad.
Disclaimer: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/nikkei-surges-boj-injects-another-%C2%A...
Now, Thats much better
what happended to all those fucking robots and drones?
Corium.
They've got more important things to do. Hadn't you heard? There's still a few shepherds alive in the Swat Valley.
Maybe it's not radioactive smoke. Maybe it's just radioactive steam...
Smoke, or steam? Is the water boiling yet ? probably so, eh? What's in the steam? Is this nice clean steam? probably not, eh. good grief, what a mess.
Watching the live feed, it does appear to be both steam and smoke. Unfortunately from the viewing angle, I can't see which is coming from where. Very sadly though, I think we will soon see both coming from most of these reactors, at least until all the water boils off.
Officials say the white smoke plume is coming from #3 reactor, cause is unknown.
oops. let one slip.....TEPCO says workers at the plant can not go outside to inspect where the 'white smoke' aka steam is coming from.....i guess the clicker (cpm) are a solid tone now....means BAD news for japanese vacationers in 2024.....
perfect. Well, we can probably guess what it's coming from.
Sorry to interupt MSM.
What happened the spent fuel rods stored in Builing 1 and Building 3?
They are safe and sound
-MSM
Wondered that myself. If the spent rods are stored in the top of each reactor unit, then the top is blown off, do they stay in place? Do they get ejected, to litter the grounds further hampering efforts to contain this mess?
Disclaimer: I work for a Utility that has an option on three plants, albeit a different type.
Will all the ALARMISTS please just settle down and STOP trying to scare everyone?
Listen: the experts and the authorities have ASSURED us that everything is under total control, and that all will be well.
What more do you need?
(Trav.... calling Trav.... will you please come in here and assure everyone that all is well?)
when the fuck did I ever say all was well?
I simply said stop being fucking hysterical and stop the paranoia.
Shit is most certainly not all well...the most negative outcome now revolves around spent fuel. As it boils off its water pool, it becomes exposed and this DRAMATICALLY increases the amount of radiation at the plant complex, making it impossible for humans to work there.
They simply have to keep this shit underwater to have a prayer here. Absent that, they have to allow all cores to meltdown and all fuel rods to melt down (which will actually help disperse heat) but prevent a zirconium fire at ALL costs.
A major fire or explosion will place core elements airborne, which is starts to get into the Chernobyl range of outcomes
I'll be f-ing hysterical if I want to, OK?
Not like this isn't the beginning of the end of industrial society or anything.
I wasn't ready, can we start again from the beginning please?
Might be a good time for the Japanese government to ask for people with terminal conditions but still fit, to volunteer for hose runners and valve turners at Fukushima.
Maybe someone to go and take some informative photos too. Unlike the TEPCO site webcam, showing mostly a tree. Exclusion/no fly zone? Like there's going to be any police in there enforcing it.
I don't know how the lady translator at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv can keep going without breaking down. It's heartbreaking to listen to, and I've never been to Japan.
So now Chernobyl is a possibility? Keep back-pedaling. The good news is that when it's all over at least you'll be right.
With govt internet control the pics above will be replaced by March 16's 1 day chart of the Nikkei up 5%.
Just heard two of the fifty missing, the rest ordered to leave?
Did I hear that right? NHK reports Japanese Government just raised acceptable levels of radiation by 2.5 times.
Watch the scroll:
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/
That's what I heard. Never fear, this will only cause severe health problems.
I don't know, but be surprised if they raise acceptable limits to 250x times what's now deemed safe.
We are living in a Bernankified World where numbers are to be distorted, twisted and manipulated as often and as greatly as possible.
Before Bernanke, numbers were the enemy. Now, they're an ally.
A high white blood cell count is so 2008.
Well, they do seem to be printing more radiation.
I know, I'm going to hell.
RDS: Radiation Default Swaps
Easy funds for same available at primary dealer discount window near you!
Our rates are so low we under sell Crazy Eddie!!
i digress, much.
They raised it so the workers can put water on pond..supposedly its still less than international accepted levels...tepco says that as of right now no meltdown
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/yokosonews
I thought that too. Like OSHA upwardly revising the feet of a fall hazard to "permit" formerly "unsafe" conditions and sleep soundly at night, til the next revision is needed to save their arses.
raised the acceptable levels of radiation? as if that's a negotiable figure? OMFG this is simply surreal!
Not "surreal" at all when you consider that said "acceptable levels" were set artificially low by tree-hugging socialist enviro-nuts like Al Whore.
this is not quite as innocent as the "acceptable amount of animal feces" found in a McDonalds burger.
I don't know how much radiation you're comfortable absorbing...but for me...I like to keep it as close to zero as possible.
but that's just me.
do you eat bananas or take long-haul flights? Hang around granite?
lol
This is quite different turd burgaler
LOL!!
Do you do spacewalks without a suit?
If you've ever stuck your hand in a spinning garbage disposal while smoking arsenic through steel wool, and injecting yourself with Drano in the jugular using a syringe stolen from a STD crack whore, this is nothing to worry about, says Trav.
you fucking idiot, YOU JUST SAID that you want NO radiation exposure. I asked if you take long haul flights.
Then you come up with this drano shit?
What the fuck is wrong with your brain that your thoughts tsunami around like this from one reductio ad absurdum to another?
Humor, trav.
You can knock my humor, but don't ever, EVER insult my mother in law.
Er, actually trav, he said
I like to keep it as close to zero as possible.
Which is not the same thing.
isn't that a rather preposterous comparison? or was it your goal to be preposterous?
is it a congenital defect in you people that you can't read?
He said he liked to keep his radation exposure close to zero as possible. IOW, he wants NO radiation whatsoever. This is absurd and hysterical. I asked if he took long haul flights as an example of this.
At NO POINT - you can read the post...prove me wrong - did I say that standing in the parking lot of Fukushima is a good idea!
You people have thought slosh where it there are literally TWO states your brains can hold at any one time...one absurd extreme strawman or the opposite.
Don't know why these folks are ragging you.
Your statements are more accurate than most of the BS being posted on this thread.
Cheers!
They were set by Atomic Energy Commission - not exactly a tree hugging liberal hangout.
http://www-ns.iaea.org/standards/documents/pubdoc-list.asp?s=11&l=96
i think it is steam (b/c i work in a steam power plant)...but for the nuclear peeps here....would physically burning nuclear material produce white smoke...if so, then it could be really, really bad....
Steam is perfectly capable of carrying volitized particulate matter; smoke coming next ? who knows.
Quite a few, if not most, metal oxides are whitish in color.
Ziconium oxide/dioxide is white, so potentially burning Zirconium could do it.
Uranium oxide (the type used in fuel pellets) is black, but can be dark green or yellow depending on the oxide configurations. I have no clue what Uranium oxide chemistry is like under these conditions, maybe some sort of redox going on that results in fine vaporization?
My bet would be steam as well, probably with bits of bad things.
But Cramer says it's OK. Buy Netflix!
what better stock THAN netflix?? cheap movies as everyone stays in their bunkers
It's the #3 MOX
* NEWS ADVISORY: TEPCO unable to confirm temperature at No.3 reactor's spent fuel pool (11:02)
* NEWS ADVISORY: Pool stores 514 spent fuel rods at Fukushima No.3 reactor: TEPCO (11:00)
* NEWS ADVISORY: Smoke may be coming from No. 3 reactor's fuel pool: TEPCO (10:53)
Live press conference coming up soon ... ( It's the number 3 confirmed - ALL WORKERS HAVE LEFT THE AREA )
http://www.ustwrap.info/multi/yokosonews::nhk-world-tv::tbstv
"* NEWS ADVISORY: TEPCO unable to confirm temperature at No.3 reactor's spent fuel pool (11:02)"
The spent fuel was in the roof.
The roof was blown to smithereens.
How can it be spent fuel?
The guy in press conference is out of his mind all over the board, every single worker has left. Tepco can't even get near plant because radiation levels are climbing. Someone asked if USA could give them new equipment so they can go back into plant......
Click on my link middle feed in english ...
MOX is the CRUX
Kyodo reporting smoke may be from Reactor #3
I find it interesting that it says both RECORDED and LIVE at the same time...makes me wonder if it really is live.
I find myself asking that same question every day as I watch and trade the market. My usual conclusion is that it's all just been one very long hallucination.
+500
deja vu reality. Is this the real life or is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide No escape from reality...
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Is it live, or its MEMOREX?
i agree, streaming NFLX will be a neccessity in the bunker.....gotta pass the years somehow.
If it's 3, that's very disturbing, and yes, I am serious.
Very sad.
News Conference said the smoke plume is coming from #3, cause is unknown.
In Depth article on what is in these buildings. Popcorn anyone?
http://www.infowars.com/alert-fukushima-coverup-40-years-of-spent-nuclear-rods-blown-sky-high/
no they weren't. Had they been, dosimeters everywhere would have gone apeshit.
LOOK FOR EVIDENCE to confirm hypotheses
Well, maybe dosimeters are going apeshit - with a 20 mile exclusion zone, it's a little hard to know what's going on, wouldn't you say?
In this predicament I believe AJ is understating the gravity of the situation. But his analysis from the beginning is most accurate.
TURN ON CNN RIGHT NOW. SEE THAT PLUME OF EITHER SMOKE OR STEAM???????
thats no smoke or steam
thats an angel breathing in the cold winter air
stop panicking troll
-trav7777
Now they are saying it's coming from reactor #3 but that doesn't make sense, the live footage shows the smoke coming out of a building and the containment building for reactor #3 was totally destroyed in the explosion.
It's hard to believe anything these people are saying...
The spent fuel pool is a big swimming pool whose surface is at the same height as the top of the container access hatch. (Think of the overhead crane in the upper roof pulling rod assemblies out of the open core, moving them laterally, and then placing them down in a 30' deep pool.) This storage pool starts on about the 3rd level of the building, and runs up for a couple of floors, according to schematics of the plant design.
Then think about an explosion of hydrogen gas in the area above a swimming pool filled with water. It might blow off a little of the water. It might make some waves. Since each cubic meter of water weighs about a ton, the pool actually has much greater ability to withstand a nearby explosion than simple structural elements like walls, pipes or roofing. So the pool, containing its share of 20 years of spent fuel assemblies, could very well still be there. The fear is that it is damaged, exposed to the sky, possibly loosing water faster than can be replaced by whatever pumping system still remains (if any).
From the news conference: They do not know for sure the cause of the white smoke coming from #3, but they think the cause may be a possible problem with the reactor's containment vessel. Workers cannot approach the building due to high radiation level.
Just think how many more and BIGGER GODZILLAS this will create? I'm going to go long godzilla tonight!
"Just think how many more and BIGGER GODZILLASthis will create? I'm going to go long godzilla tonight!"
Good man. Take your mind off that ludicrous REIT action.
The smoke is not radioactive. It's just Kine Bud.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9338/img5924s.jpg
That's some rancid bong water then...
Of course they're raising the acceptable levels of radiation. Workers are surviving... there's room to move.
A new benchmark!
This film is becoming tiresome - when can we expect a asteroid impact ??
after Bruce Willis does the nasty on his desk with the impossibly hot 21 year old babe. You can't have the asteroid before the fuck scene...although you can have an additional fuck scene after the asteroid.
never be afraid to mingle in the arts:-)
Wow - Mad Cow tells they REAL Story -- SHE GETS IT RIGHT!
Watch this! She actually get it 99% correct!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiXIODVlfXk
Yeah.
@ 3:01
What is nuclear power for?
Spinning a bunch of turbins.
Now I get it.
Good explanation though.
Well, exactly what do you think nuclear fission is being used for, powering hyperdrives, jump space drives, or wormhole generators?
Let's see:
wood burning steam reciprocating engines
coal fired steam reciprocating engines
oil burning steam reciprocating engines
diesel combustion engine powered generators
gasoline combustion engine powered generators
kerosene burning turbine engine powered generators
natural gas burning turbine engine powered generators
nuclear fission powered steam turbine generators
and when nuclear fusion becomes practical, we will have fusion powered steam turbine generators.
That was turbin not turbine.
No no nononono.
Nuclear reactors create electricity by a kind of magic. You know. Nuclear stuff. See there are these atoms and they split, and electricity is created.
when nuclear fusion becomes practical
I salute your optimism, sir.
even if you don;t like her, she is a smart broad.
Don't like here.
And yes she is a smart broad.
What? You mean to tell me that Madcow is a female, always thought it was a eunuch.
Yeah.
She got it.
Except, I think, the rods from Building 1 and Building 3 are no longer "in da house".
They got sprayed all over "da hood".
no, jackfuck, they are in your back yard right now.
Ignore your geiger counter and all the other ones. they're all lying.
That birdshit on your car was part of a conspiracy too
Thanks for confirming that there were no spent rods in the roofs of Building 1 and Building 3.
It seems that after the technical explanation they swiftly move on to Building 4.
Why did the "smart broad" not ask about Building 1 and Building 3?
Moved straight on to Building 5 and Building 6.
Distraction?
Wow; that's high quality reportage.
I misread you at first I thought is was Mancow.
Anyway MOX news always posts the most explosive of the mainstream media nuggets of what passes for real news.
This is turning out to be such a replay of GOM, different country.
Such a one two punch here, if the core won't get you, the spent fuel will. Since we had that hot and heavy technology hissy fit yesterday, different thread, any nuclear geniuses wonder why 40 years of spent fuel had to be stored on-site?
Yes, truth hurts. There is no safe way to get rid of spent nuclear fuel. Re-processiing is to expensive, too long. The coast of Somalia is now an open secret and whiel th eJaps were happy killing baby dolphins and whales, maybe they stopped short of deep ethical transgressions, unlike Euro trash who did Somalia.
It does nto matter what that white smoke/steam is. Just look left and right of #4 to realize that the damage is done. Damage control mode is on. No frame by frame analysis here is going to solve anything.
And the wind in Japan is no longer divine.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/12/fukushima-blessed-island-trinity-unleashed/
So, the radiation will simply and mysteriously 'disappear' afterwards?
Just like the oil in the Gulf of Mexico. Duh!
yes...in roughly 10,000 years. but the market has already priced in the RE recovery. remain calm. all is well.
SPX futures down almost a FULL POINT!
Boiler, funny, your comment made me realize somethiing. All that corexit/oil mix is sitting and spreading at the bottom of the ocean, disappeared. And all this radiation will be carried right into the upper reaches of the atmosphere. One up, one down, humanity right in the middle, on an unstable earth and angry ocean.
The imagery is pretty intense.
ORI
There is no safe way to get rid of spent nuclear fuel. Re-processiing is to expensive, too long.
Really?
No, not really. you can look it up and find out more. France reprocesses fuel The US Govt. promised the power industry in the US that they would take the fuel and reprocess it; then they just reneged on the promise. What you're supposed to do is re-process and re-use most of the material; then you have much smaller amounts of stuff to discard; obviously there's no actual realistic problem discarding stuff; it's just political paralysis; and hysterical protest groups. Killing off Yucca Mountain, which Obama did immediately on election, was just the latest piece of craziness that makes it "seem like a problem".
Reprocessing the fuel is the theory. Since it is more convenient and profitable to simply dump it, in practice that is what happens sometimes.
R U Sirius?
Because I am
ORIon.
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/american-cross-nuclear-rumbles/
news conference....assumes the white smoke (aka white smoke monster) aka steam is coming from 'breach' of #3 reactor....but not certain, just an assumption.....why do they keep questioning this guy about everything. if they lose any one of the reactors/pools, then the whole plant (all reactors) will probably melt down b/c nobody can go near it without MDK (murder death kill).
There are now claims that the 50 last workers have been evacuated and all work suspended....being reported on CNN.
Expert who is on live interview said if true, that would indicate all is lost, and so forth.
No confirmation yet.
Into the valley of death rode the 50...
Give Lord Cardigan my regards.
Cardigan be damned - we need Harry Flashman!
Those washed out RED caridagans are to be appreciated.
Yes it is the guy in press conference just said everyone has left , gone, see you later ....