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NHK Shows Live Coverage Of Smoke Billowing From Fukushima Reactor 3, US Military Assistance May Be Requested

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NHK is currently broadcasting live footage from its helicopter showing white smoke from the Fukushima #3 reactor. As we reported earlier, fire was earlier observed in the 8 by 8 meter hole in the outer shell of Reactor 4,which had since extinguished itself. However, that it has been replaced with billowing smoke from a new reactor is not good. Reuters speculates that the smoke is emerging from the fuel pool which is now overheating. It is highly probable that the smoke is radioactive. In a press conference that just concluded Edano said that the area around reactor 1 is too radioactive for TEPCO workers to approach and as such all have been withdrawn. He also said the US military will likely be called in for assistance.

Coverage can be watched after the jump (click on the picture).

And for those who wish a second Geiger reading, below is a brand new live stream showing the radiation cpm in Chiba located just next to Tokyo.

 

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Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:01 | 1058527 buzzsaw99
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Radioactive Cubic Zirconia rings for everyone!

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:26 | 1058689 Bob
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Holy shit, breaking news--Japanese gov has removed all workers from the nuclear plant.  Evacuation . . .

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:28 | 1058702 Boilermaker
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LOL, CNBC.com: 

  • Japan Chief Government Spokesman: Radiation Started to Fall After 10:54am Tokyo Time
  • Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:47 | 1058733 asdasmos
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    **NEW** Picture of reactors 3 and 4....

     

    http://epcan.us/jlab-ep/s/ep88140.jpg

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:44 | 1058738 Bob
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    Interesting watching Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta (on a street in Japan) with a studio-based American nuclear expert trying to puzzle this out in real time.  Anderson is sweating bullets as he asks questions driven by sheer WTF (again, he's in Japan.)

    Nuclear expert reminds us of the utility of duct tape and bottled water.  Sanjay looks like a deer frozen in headlights, Anderson's just WTF.  And calls a commercial break to get to the bottom of this shit. 

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:51 | 1058809 Michael
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    I was just waking from a tiny nap and saw that scene. It was so surreal hearing it on TV.  Talked about the Japanese Prime minister cursing out the power company officials over the phone. I guess the jig is up, no gain in lying about it anymore.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:53 | 1058819 Spalding_Smailes
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    Obama just finished the back 9. He will take care of everything soon ....

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:01 | 1058874 Dangertime
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    I already saw his plan.

     

    He blames BP.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:12 | 1059243 DoChenRollingBearing
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    I thought it was all George Bush's fault.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:19 | 1059247 TruthInSunshine
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    Barack H. Obama hates Japanese People.

     

    And Anderson Cooper look like a Weimaraner

    Weimaraner - http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KhDOPABgPZ0/S_5LvHp-c4I/AAAAAAAAFxg/1kDUg4Qk8J...

    Cooper - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080319/people-anderson-cooper...

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:23 | 1059285 ceilidh_trail
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    WRONG!!! IT'S George Bush's FAULT!!! <sarc now off>

     

    (sorry DoChen- I typed over you...)

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:04 | 1058901 Mad Max
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    He'll probably take this as a good time to grant amnesty to all the illegals, and maybe make the health care "reform" even worse for consumers than it is now.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:30 | 1059066 Michael
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    Obama is no more than a sublevel employee of Goldman Sachs. Don't expect him to do a goddamn thing for any of us proles.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:03 | 1058888 scythian empire
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    Would love to see the gut churner Anderson went through as he realizes his grey hairs are possibly mega-fucked.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:51 | 1059173 vast-dom
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    hey asswipe why don't you blame this on the Jews too since they did invent this shit! Racist moron go post up on some suprematist sites instead of here. 

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 02:40 | 1059611 Chupacabra
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    Silence, idiot.  Go worship your ineffective, overrated man-child of a president somewhere else.  As you may notice, not many on ZH are politically correct (because they think for themselves).  Could be a sign you should F off back to HuffPo?

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:28 | 1059805 BigJim
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    Yes, because criticising Obama - without any mention of his race or colour - is intrinsically rascist.

    Yawn. That shit don' work here, bo.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:54 | 1059175 vast-dom
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    ...

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:08 | 1059228 hangemhigh
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    TO:  Bob
    on Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:44
    #1058738

     

    "Interesting watching Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta (on a street in Japan)with a studio-based American nuclear expert trying to puzzle this out in real time"

    that's because ac knows, that in this episode of 'dust in the wind,  his character gets bitch slapped with a geoduck....

     

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:56 | 1059530 Citxmech
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    I was just watching that -  Sanjay looks REALLY worried...  His look says more than all the bullshit reporting that's been going on.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:42 | 1058760 buzzsaw99
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    coffee break?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:39 | 1059117 Randall Cabot
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    Nuke expert Yoichi Shimatsu on Rense Radio just said around 11pm est that a full meltdown (on #4 I think) will most surely occur at some point and that the explosion will send the really bad stuff high into the jet stream and contaminate half of the US!!!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:46 | 1059150 reader2010
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    Order your KI soon.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:38 | 1059481 sushi
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    Yoichi Shimatsu knows less than you do if that is what he claims.

    These units were designed to accomodate a "meltdown." It would not present a radiation hazard as long as the containment is not breeched.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 04:42 | 1059735 Hexus
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    Won't the whole thing blowing sky high breach the containment?

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:15 | 1059791 Bicycle Repairman
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    "as long as the containment is not breeched"

    This is the question, I believe.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:30 | 1059808 BigJim
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    Thanks Sushi!

    But please do tell us some more about the other things these units were designed to do/not do... like withstand tsunamis, not explode, or leak radiation, etc, etc.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:15 | 1058973 sushi
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    Here is the response to your last query:

     

    "Meltdown" is your term. It is not a recognized term in nuclear engineering.

    A "meltdown" is exactly that. Some material reaches a temperature at which it begins to melt. There is no explosion involved.

    A nuclear "meltdown" refers to melting of the fuel assemblies which sit within the core of the reactor vessel. There is no explosion involved.

    The melted fuel assemblies will fall to a catch basin beneath the reactor. This catch basin forms part of the containment. It is designed to retain the melted material and protect it from exposure to the atmosphere to preclude radiation exposure to the surrounding area.

    The only form of "uncontrolled chain reaction" is that of a nuclear explosive device. Once initiated it cannot be stopped. It is beyond human control.

    The glow in the dark radium watch dial on your wrist is a consequence of a chain reaction. It is this reaction that creates the glow. But the amount of radium is carefully calculated to ensure that you are not exposed to radiation hazard.

    Reactor cores are also controlled reactions. They are specifically designed to ensure that they cannot go supercritical and initiate a nuclear explosion (the uncontrolled chain reaction).

    As I expressed in my response to IQ045, a nuclear explosion at this facility is extremely improbable. It ain't gonna happen. Bet you PMs on it.

    What is likely to happen is heating of the cladding, release of H2, the explosion of the H2, and a consequent fire. Fire produces lots of hot debris which rises in the atmosphere and travels with the winds. This presents a danger to anyone downwind.

    Since Unit 4 is experiencing a boil off of the coolant in the SFP, the heat will rise, H2 will be produced and there will be a fire and a radioactive plume. This produces the same effects as a dirty bomb. This is the danger.

    All the crap in the melted core is is unlikely to go anywhere apart from a molten mass on the bottom of the boron infused concerete sub-pan.

    The crap lifted into the atmosphere by the fire is going to result in significant health impacts to anyone downwind.

    There are 36 million people located about 150 miles from the Fukushima facility.

    Which way will the wind be blowing when the H2 explodes?

    Feeling lucky punk? Are you?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:53 | 1059174 Real Estate Geek
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    All the crap in the melted core is is unlikely to go anywhere apart from a molten mass on the bottom of the boron infused concerete sub-pan.

    So what you end up with is a geometrically-irregular pile of enriched U magma.  Seems that one potential outcome of that is that the pile of magma has sufficient mass in proximity to support a chain reaction.  It could heat-up and burn right through the boron pan.  The boron won't mix with the magma until it's too late.

    /HIEE

    (Holiday Inn Express Effect)

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:38 | 1059465 sushi
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    Not enough fissile material present to support a chain reaction.

    The size of the molten mass does not matter. The neutron density of the mass does. There is not enough fissile material in the core to support any degree of bang.

    It is like suggesting we collect wristwatches and melt down a few thousand and build ourselves a bomb. This is the stuff of Tom Clancy fiction. Sounds bad but is a radiological impossibilty. Making this stuff go bang is quite hard to do.

     

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:52 | 1059518 Real Estate Geek
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    Glad to hear it & I hope you're right.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 04:57 | 1059745 Hexus
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    It's the pressure in the core they're worried about, that's why they tried to let some pressure out leading to the hydrogen explosions. I'm not going to pretend I know about nuclear reactors but surely if the only danger was radioactive coolant boiling then they'd just drain the coolent and forget about the core?

    The core is protected by extremely thick and strong steel, if the pressure gets high enough to pop that then it'll be a GIGANTIC explosion, think of what a boiler does when it blows.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:46 | 1059499 Unlawful Justice
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    MSM gets it better than you!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiXIODVlfXk

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:01 | 1058532 TruthInSunshine
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    Not a big deal.

     

    Japanese Government and IAEA says it's pop tarts in a toaster in the control room.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:47 | 1058788 TomJoad
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    Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too. When they canceled the project it almost did me in. One day my mind was full to bursting. The next day - nothing. Swept away. But I'll show them. I had a lobotomy in the end. 

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:57 | 1058815 alien-IQ
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    Lobotomy? A friend of mine had a lobotomy. Inventor of the neutron bomb. It's this big. Fits in a briefcase. No one knows it's there until BLAMO! Eyes melt. Skin explodes. Everybody dead. But working on it can be so...immoral. It's enough to drive you crazy. It drove my friend crazy. Then he had a lobotomy. Now he's well again.

    LOL!!!!! I've been mumbling that Repo Man monologue to myself for two days now!!! Brilliant!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:02 | 1058539 SparkyvonBellagio
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    Please send down 3 Puffer Glow Fish!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:02 | 1058541 jerry_theking_lawler
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    need a camera pointed at fuk-u-shima 24/7.....do not trust the info coming out of TEPCO or government....

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:27 | 1058683 dark pools of soros
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    you do know all those BP underwater cams were just in someone's fish tank right?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:37 | 1058740 TwoShortPlanks
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    LOL motherfucker! :)))

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:05 | 1058553 jerry_theking_lawler
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    oh, that's where the smoke is coming from....my bad.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:13 | 1058560 plocequ1
    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:06 | 1058564 reader2010
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    what happended to all those fucking robots and drones?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:09 | 1058577 PeterSchump
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    Corium.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:34 | 1059813 BigJim
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    They've got more important things to do. Hadn't you heard? There's still a few shepherds alive in the Swat Valley.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:06 | 1058568 riffraffy
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    Maybe it's not radioactive smoke. Maybe it's just radioactive steam...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:07 | 1058571 IQ 145
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     Smoke, or steam? Is the water boiling yet ? probably so, eh? What's in the steam? Is this nice clean steam? probably not, eh. good grief, what a mess.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:15 | 1058961 TomJoad
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    Watching the live feed, it does appear to be both steam and smoke. Unfortunately from the viewing angle, I can't see which is coming from where. Very sadly though, I think we will soon see both coming from most of these reactors, at least until all the water boils off.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:00 | 1059211 depression
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    Officials say the white smoke plume is coming from #3 reactor, cause is unknown.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:08 | 1058573 jerry_theking_lawler
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    oops. let one slip.....TEPCO says workers at the plant can not go outside to inspect where the 'white smoke' aka steam is coming from.....i guess the clicker (cpm) are a solid tone now....means BAD news for japanese vacationers in 2024.....

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:13 | 1058613 IQ 145
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     perfect. Well, we can probably guess what it's coming from.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:07 | 1058574 Lord Welligton
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    Sorry to interupt MSM.

    What happened the spent fuel rods stored in Builing 1 and Building 3?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:24 | 1058661 bob_dabolina
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    They are safe and sound

    -MSM

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:27 | 1058686 Clay Hill
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    Wondered that myself.  If the spent rods are stored in the top of each reactor unit, then the top is blown off, do they stay in place? Do they get ejected, to litter the grounds further hampering efforts to contain this mess?

    Disclaimer:  I work for a Utility that has an option on three plants, albeit a different type.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:09 | 1058575 Dyler Turden II Esq
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    Will all the ALARMISTS please just settle down and STOP trying to scare everyone? 

    Listen: the experts and the authorities have ASSURED us that everything is under total control, and that all will be well.

    What more do you need?

    (Trav.... calling Trav.... will you please come in here and assure everyone that all is well?)

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:58 | 1058848 trav7777
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    when the fuck did I ever say all was well?

    I simply said stop being fucking hysterical and stop the paranoia.

    Shit is most certainly not all well...the most negative outcome now revolves around spent fuel.  As it boils off its water pool, it becomes exposed and this DRAMATICALLY increases the amount of radiation at the plant complex, making it impossible for humans to work there.

    They simply have to keep this shit underwater to have a prayer here.  Absent that, they have to allow all cores to meltdown and all fuel rods to melt down (which will actually help disperse heat) but prevent a zirconium fire at ALL costs.

    A major fire or explosion will place core elements airborne, which is starts to get into the Chernobyl range of outcomes

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:47 | 1059149 TerraHertz
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    I'll be f-ing hysterical if I want to, OK?

    Not like this isn't the beginning of the end of industrial society or anything.

    I wasn't ready, can we start again from the beginning please?

     

    Might be a good time for the Japanese government to ask for people with terminal conditions but still fit, to volunteer for hose runners and valve turners at Fukushima.

    Maybe someone to go and take some informative photos too. Unlike the TEPCO site webcam, showing mostly a tree. Exclusion/no fly zone? Like there's going to be any police in there enforcing it.

    I don't know how the lady translator at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv can keep going without breaking down. It's heartbreaking to listen to, and I've never been to Japan.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:23 | 1059798 Bicycle Repairman
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    So now Chernobyl is a possibility?  Keep back-pedaling.  The good news is that when it's all over at least you'll be right.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:09 | 1058586 Sheriff Douchen...
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    With govt internet control the pics above will be replaced by March 16's 1 day chart of the Nikkei up 5%.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:10 | 1058588 Yes_Questions
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    Just heard two of the fifty missing, the rest ordered to leave?

     

    Did I hear that right?  NHK reports Japanese Government just raised acceptable levels of radiation by 2.5 times.

     

    Watch the scroll:

     

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:14 | 1058607 SloSquez
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    That's what I heard.  Never fear, this will only cause severe health problems.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:15 | 1058617 TruthInSunshine
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    I don't know, but be surprised if they raise acceptable limits to 250x times what's now deemed safe.

    We are living in a Bernankified World where numbers are to be distorted, twisted and manipulated as often and as greatly as possible.

    Before Bernanke, numbers were the enemy. Now, they're an ally.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:20 | 1058648 SloSquez
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    A high white blood cell count is so 2008.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:21 | 1058655 Misean
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    Well, they do seem to be printing more radiation.

    I know, I'm going to hell.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:47 | 1058786 Yes_Questions
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    RDS: Radiation Default Swaps

     

    Easy funds for same available at primary dealer discount window near you!

     

    Our rates are so low we under sell Crazy Eddie!!

     

    i digress, much.

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:39 | 1058745 Worker Bee
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    They raised it so the workers can put water on pond..supposedly its still less than international accepted levels...tepco says that as of right now no meltdown

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/yokosonews

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:50 | 1058800 Yes_Questions
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    I thought that too.  Like OSHA upwardly revising the feet of a fall hazard to "permit" formerly "unsafe" conditions and sleep soundly at night, til the next revision is needed to save their arses.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:15 | 1058621 alien-IQ
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    raised the acceptable levels of radiation? as if that's a negotiable figure? OMFG this is simply surreal!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:21 | 1058652 Dyler Turden II Esq
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    Not "surreal" at all when you consider that said "acceptable levels" were set artificially low by tree-hugging socialist enviro-nuts like Al Whore.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:42 | 1058747 alien-IQ
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    this is not quite as innocent as the "acceptable amount of animal feces" found in a McDonalds burger.

    I don't know how much radiation you're comfortable absorbing...but for me...I like to keep it as close to zero as possible.

    but that's just me.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:03 | 1058896 trav7777
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    do you eat bananas or take long-haul flights?  Hang around granite?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:07 | 1058910 bob_dabolina
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    lol

    This is quite different turd burgaler

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:28 | 1059803 Bicycle Repairman
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    LOL!!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:27 | 1059046 tmosley
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    Do you do spacewalks without a suit?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:56 | 1059189 TruthInSunshine
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    If you've ever stuck your hand in a spinning garbage disposal while smoking arsenic through steel wool, and injecting yourself with Drano in the jugular using a syringe stolen from a STD crack whore, this is nothing to worry about, says Trav.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:02 | 1059212 trav7777
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    you fucking idiot, YOU JUST SAID that you want NO radiation exposure.  I asked if you take long haul flights.

    Then you come up with this drano shit?

    What the fuck is wrong with your brain that your thoughts tsunami around like this from one reductio ad absurdum to another?

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:05 | 1059219 TruthInSunshine
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    Humor, trav.

    You can knock my humor, but don't ever, EVER insult my mother in law.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:40 | 1059818 BigJim
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    Er, actually trav, he said

           I like to keep it as close to zero as possible.

    Which is not the same thing.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:38 | 1059107 alien-IQ
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    isn't that a rather preposterous comparison? or was it your goal to be preposterous?

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:05 | 1059222 trav7777
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    is it a congenital defect in you people that you can't read?

    He said he liked to keep his radation exposure close to zero as possible.  IOW, he wants NO radiation whatsoever.  This is absurd and hysterical.  I asked if he took long haul flights as an example of this.

    At NO POINT - you can read the post...prove me wrong - did I say that standing in the parking lot of Fukushima is a good idea!

    You people have thought slosh where it there are literally TWO states your brains can hold at any one time...one absurd extreme strawman or the opposite.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:44 | 1059497 sushi
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    Don't know why these folks are ragging you.

    Your statements are more accurate than most of the BS being posted on this thread.

    Cheers!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:46 | 1058781 TheMerryPrankster
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    They were set by Atomic Energy Commission - not exactly a tree hugging liberal hangout.

    http://www-ns.iaea.org/standards/documents/pubdoc-list.asp?s=11&l=96

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:11 | 1058594 jerry_theking_lawler
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    i think it is steam (b/c i work in a steam power plant)...but for the nuclear peeps here....would physically burning nuclear material produce white smoke...if so, then it could be really, really bad....

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:16 | 1058626 IQ 145
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     Steam is perfectly capable of carrying volitized particulate matter; smoke coming next ? who knows.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:31 | 1058719 seek
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    Quite a few, if not most, metal oxides are whitish in color.

    Ziconium oxide/dioxide is white, so potentially burning Zirconium could do it.

    Uranium oxide (the type used in fuel pellets) is black, but can be dark green or yellow depending on the oxide configurations. I have no clue what Uranium oxide chemistry is like under these conditions, maybe some sort of redox going on that results in fine vaporization?

    My bet would be steam as well, probably with bits of bad things.

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:12 | 1058595 djsmps
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    But Cramer says it's OK. Buy Netflix!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:27 | 1058693 dark pools of soros
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    what better stock THAN netflix??  cheap movies as everyone stays in their bunkers

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:20 | 1058601 Spalding_Smailes
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    It's the #3 MOX 


    * NEWS ADVISORY: TEPCO unable to confirm temperature at No.3 reactor's spent fuel pool (11:02)
    * NEWS ADVISORY: Pool stores 514 spent fuel rods at Fukushima No.3 reactor: TEPCO (11:00)
    * NEWS ADVISORY: Smoke may be coming from No. 3 reactor's fuel pool: TEPCO (10:53)

     

    Live press conference coming up soon ... ( It's the number 3 confirmed - ALL WORKERS HAVE LEFT THE AREA )

    http://www.ustwrap.info/multi/yokosonews::nhk-world-tv::tbstv

     


    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:26 | 1058677 Lord Welligton
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    "* NEWS ADVISORY: TEPCO unable to confirm temperature at No.3 reactor's spent fuel pool (11:02)"

    The spent fuel was in the roof.

    The roof was blown to smithereens.

    How can it be spent fuel?

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:34 | 1058716 Spalding_Smailes
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    The guy in press conference is out of his mind all over the board, every single worker has left. Tepco can't even get near plant because radiation levels are climbing. Someone asked if USA could give them new equipment so they can go back into plant......

     

    Click on my link middle feed in english ...

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:31 | 1059807 Bicycle Repairman
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    MOX is the CRUX

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:12 | 1058604 avonaltendorf
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    Kyodo reporting smoke may be from Reactor #3

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:12 | 1058605 MyKillK
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    I find it interesting that it says both RECORDED and LIVE at the same time...makes me wonder if it really is live.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:22 | 1058659 alien-IQ
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    I find myself asking that same question every day as I watch and trade the market. My usual conclusion is that it's all just been one very long hallucination.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:51 | 1058805 TheMerryPrankster
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    +500

    deja vu reality. Is this the real life or is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide No escape from reality...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:54 | 1058797 Ahmeexnal
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    .

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:51 | 1058803 Ahmeexnal
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    Is it live, or its MEMOREX?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:13 | 1058611 jerry_theking_lawler
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    i agree, streaming NFLX will be a neccessity in the bunker.....gotta pass the years somehow.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:15 | 1058622 TruthInSunshine
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    If it's 3, that's very disturbing, and yes, I am serious.

     

    Very sad.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:06 | 1059224 depression
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    News Conference said the smoke plume is coming from #3, cause is unknown.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:16 | 1058623 Out9922
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    In Depth article on what is in these buildings.  Popcorn anyone?

     

    http://www.infowars.com/alert-fukushima-coverup-40-years-of-spent-nuclear-rods-blown-sky-high/

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:06 | 1058914 trav7777
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    no they weren't.  Had they been, dosimeters everywhere would have gone apeshit.

    LOOK FOR EVIDENCE to confirm hypotheses

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:45 | 1059823 BigJim
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    Well, maybe dosimeters are going apeshit - with a 20 mile exclusion zone, it's a little hard to know what's going on, wouldn't you say?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:18 | 1058984 Michael
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    In this predicament I believe AJ is understating the gravity of the situation. But his analysis from the beginning is most accurate.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:17 | 1058630 SparkyvonBellagio
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    TURN ON CNN RIGHT NOW. SEE THAT PLUME OF EITHER SMOKE OR STEAM???????

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:22 | 1058645 bob_dabolina
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    thats no smoke or steam

    thats an angel breathing in the cold winter air

    stop panicking troll

    -trav7777

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:17 | 1058635 MyKillK
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    Now they are saying it's coming from reactor #3 but that doesn't make sense, the live footage shows the smoke coming out of a building and the containment building for reactor #3 was totally destroyed in the explosion.

     

    It's hard to believe anything these people are saying...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:22 | 1059008 SWCroaker
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    The spent fuel pool is a big swimming pool whose surface is at the same height as the top of the container access hatch.  (Think of the overhead crane in the upper roof pulling rod assemblies out of the open core, moving them laterally, and then placing them down in a 30' deep pool.)  This storage pool starts on about the 3rd level of the building, and runs up for a couple of floors, according to schematics of the plant design.

    Then think about an explosion of hydrogen gas in the area above a swimming pool filled with water.  It might blow off a little of the water.  It might make some waves.  Since each cubic meter of water weighs about a ton, the pool actually has much greater ability to withstand a nearby explosion than simple structural elements like walls, pipes or roofing.  So the pool, containing its share of 20 years of spent fuel assemblies, could very well still be there.  The fear is that it is damaged, exposed to the sky, possibly loosing water faster than can be replaced by whatever pumping system still remains (if any).

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:09 | 1059240 depression
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    From the news conference: They do not know for sure the cause of the white smoke coming from #3, but they think the cause may be a possible problem with the reactor's containment vessel. Workers cannot approach the building due to high radiation level.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:18 | 1058636 Boilermaker
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    Just think how many more and BIGGER GODZILLAS this will create?  I'm going to go long godzilla tonight!

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:34 | 1059088 Village Idiot
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    "Just think how many more and BIGGER GODZILLASthis will create?  I'm going to go long godzilla tonight!"

     

    Good man. Take your mind off that ludicrous REIT action.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:21 | 1058646 Freewheelin Franklin
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    The smoke is not radioactive. It's just Kine Bud.

    http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9338/img5924s.jpg

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:24 | 1058674 Misean
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    That's some rancid bong water then...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:22 | 1058656 Nobody special
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    Of course they're raising the acceptable levels of radiation.  Workers are surviving... there's room to move.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:24 | 1058663 Boilermaker
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    A new benchmark!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:23 | 1058664 THE DORK OF CORK
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    This film is becoming tiresome - when can we expect a asteroid impact ??

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:46 | 1058779 alien-IQ
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    after Bruce Willis does the nasty on his desk with the impossibly hot 21 year old babe. You can't have the asteroid before the fuck scene...although you can have an additional fuck scene after the asteroid.

    never be afraid to mingle in the arts:-)

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:27 | 1058667 CitizenPete
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    Wow - Mad Cow tells they REAL Story  -- SHE GETS IT RIGHT!

     

    Watch this!  She actually get it 99% correct!!!!!

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiXIODVlfXk

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:46 | 1058774 Lord Welligton
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    Yeah.

    @ 3:01

    What is nuclear power for?

    Spinning a bunch of turbins.

    Now I get it.

     

    Good explanation though.

     

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:44 | 1059067 Convolved Man
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    Well, exactly what do you think nuclear fission is being used for, powering hyperdrives, jump space drives, or wormhole generators?

    Let's see:

    wood burning steam reciprocating engines

    coal fired steam reciprocating engines

    oil burning steam reciprocating engines

    diesel combustion engine powered generators

    gasoline combustion engine powered generators

    kerosene burning turbine engine powered generators

    natural gas burning turbine engine powered generators

    nuclear fission powered steam turbine generators

    and when nuclear fusion becomes practical, we will have fusion powered steam turbine generators.

     

     

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 04:30 | 1059724 Lord Welligton
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    That was turbin not turbine.

     

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 05:28 | 1059763 css1971
    css1971's picture

    No no nononono.

    Nuclear reactors create electricity by a kind of magic. You know. Nuclear stuff. See there are these atoms and they split, and electricity is created.

     

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 07:04 | 1059827 BigJim
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           when nuclear fusion becomes practical

    I salute your optimism, sir.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:50 | 1058801 Alienated Serf
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    even if you don;t like her, she is a smart broad.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:56 | 1058833 Lord Welligton
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    Don't like here.

    And yes she is a smart broad.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:18 | 1058990 Rusty Shorts
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    What? You mean to tell me that Madcow is a female, always thought it was a eunuch.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:54 | 1058824 Lord Welligton
    Lord Welligton's picture

    Yeah.

    She got it.

    Except, I think, the rods from Building 1 and Building 3 are no longer "in da house".

    They got sprayed all over "da hood".

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:08 | 1058934 trav7777
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    no, jackfuck, they are in your back yard right now.

    Ignore your geiger counter and all the other ones.  they're all lying.

    That birdshit on your car was part of a conspiracy too

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 04:33 | 1059726 Lord Welligton
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    Thanks for confirming that there were no spent rods in the roofs of Building 1 and Building 3.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:59 | 1058853 Lord Welligton
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    It seems that after the technical explanation they swiftly move on to Building 4.

    Why did the "smart broad" not ask about Building 1 and Building 3?

    Moved straight on to Building 5 and Building 6.

    Distraction?

     

     

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:19 | 1058992 IQ 145
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     Wow; that's high quality reportage.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:49 | 1059161 Michael
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    I misread you at first I thought is was Mancow.

    Anyway MOX news always posts the most explosive of the mainstream media nuggets of what passes for real news.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:24 | 1058670 Oh regional Indian
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    This is turning out to be such a replay of GOM, different country. 

    Such a one two punch here, if the core won't get you, the spent fuel will. Since we had that hot and heavy technology hissy fit yesterday, different thread, any nuclear geniuses wonder why 40 years of spent fuel had to be stored on-site?

    Yes, truth hurts. There is no safe way to get rid of spent nuclear fuel. Re-processiing is to expensive, too long. The coast of Somalia is now an open secret and whiel th eJaps were happy killing baby dolphins and whales, maybe they stopped short of deep ethical transgressions, unlike Euro trash who did Somalia.

    It does nto matter what that white smoke/steam is. Just look left and right of #4 to realize that the damage is done. Damage control mode is on. No frame by frame analysis here is going to solve anything.

    And the wind in Japan is no longer divine.

    ORI

    http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/12/fukushima-blessed-island-trinity-unleashed/

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:25 | 1058678 Boilermaker
    Boilermaker's picture

    So, the radiation will simply and mysteriously 'disappear' afterwards?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:40 | 1058756 I Got Worms
    I Got Worms's picture

    Just like the oil in the Gulf of Mexico. Duh!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:49 | 1058791 alien-IQ
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    yes...in roughly 10,000 years. but the market has already priced in the RE recovery. remain calm. all is well.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:51 | 1058810 Boilermaker
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    SPX futures down almost a FULL POINT!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:03 | 1058892 Oh regional Indian
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    Boiler, funny, your comment made me realize somethiing. All that corexit/oil mix is sitting and spreading at the bottom of the ocean, disappeared. And all this radiation will be carried right into the upper reaches of the atmosphere. One up, one down, humanity right in the middle, on an unstable earth and angry ocean.

    The imagery is pretty intense.

    ORI

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:29 | 1058700 SloSquez
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    There is no safe way to get rid of spent nuclear fuel. Re-processiing is to expensive, too long.

    Really?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:25 | 1059041 IQ 145
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     No, not really. you can look it up and find out more. France reprocesses fuel The US Govt. promised the power industry in the US that they would take the fuel and reprocess it; then they just reneged on the promise. What you're supposed to do is re-process and re-use most of the material; then you have much smaller amounts of stuff to discard; obviously there's no actual realistic problem discarding stuff; it's just political paralysis; and hysterical protest groups. Killing off Yucca Mountain, which Obama did immediately on election, was just the latest piece of craziness that makes it "seem like a problem".

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 08:09 | 1059917 Bicycle Repairman
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    Reprocessing the fuel is the theory.  Since it is more convenient and profitable to simply dump it, in practice that is what happens sometimes.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:25 | 1058671 jerry_theking_lawler
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    news conference....assumes the white smoke (aka white smoke monster) aka steam is coming from 'breach' of #3 reactor....but not certain, just an assumption.....why do they keep questioning this guy about everything. if they lose any one of the reactors/pools, then the whole plant (all reactors) will probably melt down b/c nobody can go near it without MDK (murder death kill).

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:26 | 1058673 TruthInSunshine
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    There are now claims that the 50 last workers have been evacuated and all work suspended....being reported on CNN.

    Expert who is on live interview said if true, that would indicate all is lost, and so forth.

    No confirmation yet.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:27 | 1058696 Misean
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    Into the valley of death rode the 50...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:48 | 1058795 Lord Welligton
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    Give Lord Cardigan my regards.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:37 | 1059110 Pope Clement
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    Cardigan be damned - we need Harry Flashman!

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 04:08 | 1059708 Yen Cross
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    Those washed out RED caridagans are to be appreciated.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:37 | 1058735 Spalding_Smailes
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    Yes it is the guy in press conference just said everyone has left , gone, see you later ....

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