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NHK Shows Live Coverage Of Smoke Billowing From Fukushima Reactor 3, US Military Assistance May Be Requested

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Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:01 | 1058527 buzzsaw99
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Radioactive Cubic Zirconia rings for everyone!

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:26 | 1058689 Bob
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Holy shit, breaking news--Japanese gov has removed all workers from the nuclear plant.  Evacuation . . .

Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:28 | 1058702 Boilermaker
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LOL, CNBC.com: 

  • Japan Chief Government Spokesman: Radiation Started to Fall After 10:54am Tokyo Time
  • Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:47 | 1058733 asdasmos
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    **NEW** Picture of reactors 3 and 4....



    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:44 | 1058738 Bob
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    Interesting watching Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta (on a street in Japan) with a studio-based American nuclear expert trying to puzzle this out in real time.  Anderson is sweating bullets as he asks questions driven by sheer WTF (again, he's in Japan.)

    Nuclear expert reminds us of the utility of duct tape and bottled water.  Sanjay looks like a deer frozen in headlights, Anderson's just WTF.  And calls a commercial break to get to the bottom of this shit. 

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:51 | 1058809 Michael
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    I was just waking from a tiny nap and saw that scene. It was so surreal hearing it on TV.  Talked about the Japanese Prime minister cursing out the power company officials over the phone. I guess the jig is up, no gain in lying about it anymore.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:53 | 1058819 Spalding_Smailes
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    Obama just finished the back 9. He will take care of everything soon ....

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:01 | 1058874 Dangertime
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    I already saw his plan.


    He blames BP.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:12 | 1059243 DoChenRollingBearing
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    I thought it was all George Bush's fault.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:19 | 1059247 TruthInSunshine
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    Barack H. Obama hates Japanese People.


    And Anderson Cooper look like a Weimaraner

    Weimaraner - http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KhDOPABgPZ0/S_5LvHp-c4I/AAAAAAAAFxg/1kDUg4Qk8J...

    Cooper - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080319/people-anderson-cooper...

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:23 | 1059285 ceilidh_trail
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    WRONG!!! IT'S George Bush's FAULT!!! <sarc now off>


    (sorry DoChen- I typed over you...)

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:04 | 1058901 Mad Max
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    He'll probably take this as a good time to grant amnesty to all the illegals, and maybe make the health care "reform" even worse for consumers than it is now.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:30 | 1059066 Michael
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    Obama is no more than a sublevel employee of Goldman Sachs. Don't expect him to do a goddamn thing for any of us proles.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:03 | 1058888 scythian empire
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    Would love to see the gut churner Anderson went through as he realizes his grey hairs are possibly mega-fucked.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:51 | 1059173 vast-dom
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    hey asswipe why don't you blame this on the Jews too since they did invent this shit! Racist moron go post up on some suprematist sites instead of here. 

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 02:40 | 1059611 Chupacabra
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    Silence, idiot.  Go worship your ineffective, overrated man-child of a president somewhere else.  As you may notice, not many on ZH are politically correct (because they think for themselves).  Could be a sign you should F off back to HuffPo?

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:28 | 1059805 BigJim
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    Yes, because criticising Obama - without any mention of his race or colour - is intrinsically rascist.

    Yawn. That shit don' work here, bo.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:54 | 1059175 vast-dom
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    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:08 | 1059228 hangemhigh
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    TO:  Bob
    on Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:44


    "Interesting watching Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta (on a street in Japan)with a studio-based American nuclear expert trying to puzzle this out in real time"

    that's because ac knows, that in this episode of 'dust in the wind,  his character gets bitch slapped with a geoduck....


    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:56 | 1059530 Citxmech
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    I was just watching that -  Sanjay looks REALLY worried...  His look says more than all the bullshit reporting that's been going on.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:42 | 1058760 buzzsaw99
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    coffee break?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:39 | 1059117 Randall Cabot
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    Nuke expert Yoichi Shimatsu on Rense Radio just said around 11pm est that a full meltdown (on #4 I think) will most surely occur at some point and that the explosion will send the really bad stuff high into the jet stream and contaminate half of the US!!!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:46 | 1059150 reader2010
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    Order your KI soon.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:38 | 1059481 sushi
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    Yoichi Shimatsu knows less than you do if that is what he claims.

    These units were designed to accomodate a "meltdown." It would not present a radiation hazard as long as the containment is not breeched.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 04:42 | 1059735 Hexus
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    Won't the whole thing blowing sky high breach the containment?

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:15 | 1059791 Bicycle Repairman
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    "as long as the containment is not breeched"

    This is the question, I believe.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:30 | 1059808 BigJim
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    Thanks Sushi!

    But please do tell us some more about the other things these units were designed to do/not do... like withstand tsunamis, not explode, or leak radiation, etc, etc.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:15 | 1058973 sushi
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    Here is the response to your last query:


    "Meltdown" is your term. It is not a recognized term in nuclear engineering.

    A "meltdown" is exactly that. Some material reaches a temperature at which it begins to melt. There is no explosion involved.

    A nuclear "meltdown" refers to melting of the fuel assemblies which sit within the core of the reactor vessel. There is no explosion involved.

    The melted fuel assemblies will fall to a catch basin beneath the reactor. This catch basin forms part of the containment. It is designed to retain the melted material and protect it from exposure to the atmosphere to preclude radiation exposure to the surrounding area.

    The only form of "uncontrolled chain reaction" is that of a nuclear explosive device. Once initiated it cannot be stopped. It is beyond human control.

    The glow in the dark radium watch dial on your wrist is a consequence of a chain reaction. It is this reaction that creates the glow. But the amount of radium is carefully calculated to ensure that you are not exposed to radiation hazard.

    Reactor cores are also controlled reactions. They are specifically designed to ensure that they cannot go supercritical and initiate a nuclear explosion (the uncontrolled chain reaction).

    As I expressed in my response to IQ045, a nuclear explosion at this facility is extremely improbable. It ain't gonna happen. Bet you PMs on it.

    What is likely to happen is heating of the cladding, release of H2, the explosion of the H2, and a consequent fire. Fire produces lots of hot debris which rises in the atmosphere and travels with the winds. This presents a danger to anyone downwind.

    Since Unit 4 is experiencing a boil off of the coolant in the SFP, the heat will rise, H2 will be produced and there will be a fire and a radioactive plume. This produces the same effects as a dirty bomb. This is the danger.

    All the crap in the melted core is is unlikely to go anywhere apart from a molten mass on the bottom of the boron infused concerete sub-pan.

    The crap lifted into the atmosphere by the fire is going to result in significant health impacts to anyone downwind.

    There are 36 million people located about 150 miles from the Fukushima facility.

    Which way will the wind be blowing when the H2 explodes?

    Feeling lucky punk? Are you?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:53 | 1059174 Real Estate Geek
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    All the crap in the melted core is is unlikely to go anywhere apart from a molten mass on the bottom of the boron infused concerete sub-pan.

    So what you end up with is a geometrically-irregular pile of enriched U magma.  Seems that one potential outcome of that is that the pile of magma has sufficient mass in proximity to support a chain reaction.  It could heat-up and burn right through the boron pan.  The boron won't mix with the magma until it's too late.


    (Holiday Inn Express Effect)

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:38 | 1059465 sushi
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    Not enough fissile material present to support a chain reaction.

    The size of the molten mass does not matter. The neutron density of the mass does. There is not enough fissile material in the core to support any degree of bang.

    It is like suggesting we collect wristwatches and melt down a few thousand and build ourselves a bomb. This is the stuff of Tom Clancy fiction. Sounds bad but is a radiological impossibilty. Making this stuff go bang is quite hard to do.


    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:52 | 1059518 Real Estate Geek
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    Glad to hear it & I hope you're right.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 04:57 | 1059745 Hexus
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    It's the pressure in the core they're worried about, that's why they tried to let some pressure out leading to the hydrogen explosions. I'm not going to pretend I know about nuclear reactors but surely if the only danger was radioactive coolant boiling then they'd just drain the coolent and forget about the core?

    The core is protected by extremely thick and strong steel, if the pressure gets high enough to pop that then it'll be a GIGANTIC explosion, think of what a boiler does when it blows.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 01:46 | 1059499 Unlawful Justice
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    MSM gets it better than you!


    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:01 | 1058532 TruthInSunshine
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    Not a big deal.


    Japanese Government and IAEA says it's pop tarts in a toaster in the control room.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:47 | 1058788 TomJoad
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    Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too. When they canceled the project it almost did me in. One day my mind was full to bursting. The next day - nothing. Swept away. But I'll show them. I had a lobotomy in the end. 

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:57 | 1058815 alien-IQ
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    Lobotomy? A friend of mine had a lobotomy. Inventor of the neutron bomb. It's this big. Fits in a briefcase. No one knows it's there until BLAMO! Eyes melt. Skin explodes. Everybody dead. But working on it can be so...immoral. It's enough to drive you crazy. It drove my friend crazy. Then he had a lobotomy. Now he's well again.

    LOL!!!!! I've been mumbling that Repo Man monologue to myself for two days now!!! Brilliant!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:02 | 1058539 SparkyvonBellagio
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    Please send down 3 Puffer Glow Fish!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:02 | 1058541 jerry_theking_lawler
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    need a camera pointed at fuk-u-shima 24/7.....do not trust the info coming out of TEPCO or government....

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:27 | 1058683 dark pools of soros
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    you do know all those BP underwater cams were just in someone's fish tank right?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:37 | 1058740 TwoShortPlanks
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    LOL motherfucker! :)))

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:05 | 1058553 jerry_theking_lawler
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    oh, that's where the smoke is coming from....my bad.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:13 | 1058560 plocequ1
    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:06 | 1058564 reader2010
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    what happended to all those fucking robots and drones?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:09 | 1058577 PeterSchump
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    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:34 | 1059813 BigJim
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    They've got more important things to do. Hadn't you heard? There's still a few shepherds alive in the Swat Valley.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:06 | 1058568 riffraffy
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    Maybe it's not radioactive smoke. Maybe it's just radioactive steam...

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:07 | 1058571 IQ 145
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     Smoke, or steam? Is the water boiling yet ? probably so, eh? What's in the steam? Is this nice clean steam? probably not, eh. good grief, what a mess.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 23:15 | 1058961 TomJoad
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    Watching the live feed, it does appear to be both steam and smoke. Unfortunately from the viewing angle, I can't see which is coming from where. Very sadly though, I think we will soon see both coming from most of these reactors, at least until all the water boils off.

    Wed, 03/16/2011 - 00:00 | 1059211 depression
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    Officials say the white smoke plume is coming from #3 reactor, cause is unknown.

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