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Nice Work Creating New Terrorists, You Morons
Preface: This is admittedly somewhat peripheral to economics and
business. However, terrorist attacks cost many billions of dollars in
damage, and could severely depress consumer sentiment and “animal
spirits”. And, as I have previously written, unnecessary wars hurt
the economy. See this and this.
American civilian and military leaders have been creating new terrorists through their:
(1) Use of torture
and
(2) Killing of innocent civilians- especially children – in Arabic countries.
Torture
A high-level American Special Ops interrogator says that information obtained from torture is unreliable, and that torture just creates more terrorists. Indeed, he says that torture of innocent Iraqis by Americans is the main reason that foreign fighters started fighting against Americans in Iraq in the first place.
A former FBI interrogator — who interrogated Al Qaeda suspects — says categorically that torture does not help collect intelligence. On the other hand he says that torture actually turns people into terrorists.
A 30-year veteran of CIA’s operations directorate who rose to the most senior managerial ranks, says:
“This is not just because the old hands overwhelmingly
believe that torture doesn’t work — it doesn’t — but also because they
know that torture creates more terrorists and fosters more acts of
terror than it could possibly neutralize.”
Former counter-terrorism czar Richard A. Clarke says that America’s indefinite detention without trial and abuse of prisoners is a leading Al Qaeda recruiting tool.
A former U.S. interrogator and counterintelligence agent, and Afghanistan veteran said,
Torture puts our troops in danger, torture makes our
troops less safe, torture creates terrorists. It’s used so widely as a
propaganda tool now in Afghanistan. All too often, detainees have
pamphlets on them, depicting what happened at Guantanamo.
The Senate Armed Services Committee unanimously found:
“The administration’s policies concerning [torture] and the resulting controversies … strengthened the hand of our enemies.”
Two professors of political science have demonstrated that torture increases, rather than decreases, terrorism.
Killing of Innocent Civilians
The former number 2 counter-terrorism expert at the State Department says that military attacks in Iraq increase terrorism.
Indeed, Al Qaeda wasn’t even in Iraq until the U.S. invaded that country.
After the U.S. military allegedly handcuffed and then killed a bunch of Afghan kids, thousands of Afghans are protesting the brutal killings, chanting 'Death to America!'.
Nice work creating new terrorists, you morons.
Anyone who thinks this is a partisan issue should read this and this.
In related news, not only are the U.S. government's actions
creating more terrorists, but "reforms" made to the intelligence
agencies have made it MORE DIFFICULT to stop the terrorists they've created.
Idiots.
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everyone needs to study our civil war to see why the rest of the world held us in such high esteem for so long
nowadays with our standards so low, it does bother me that the so called hawks make fun of the dems for being pussies but they are so weak willed as well yet love to be schoolyard bullies.
in old conquest days, the lands you plunder go to help pay for more conquests.. we are controlled by global interests that just want to bleed us dry
You know nothing of the US civil war. Stop making stuff up from your ass.
You people here to pick fights is pretty obvious. Your credibility is already in the toilet. Stop posting.
Not picking fights, trying to correct posts. You have to rock dumb to believe the US Civil War was not brutal. Here some fucking facts that happen in the US Civil War.
1. Tortures
2. POW starvation
3. POW killed
4. Killing of Civilians
5. Scouch Earth Tactics
6. and much more.
All you fucking dumbass do not post if you do not know the subject at hand.
Are you even American? Your command of English is pathetic. Not that you can't be an expert on the American Civil War, but what the hell are you talking about?
Was that civil war stuff a reply to me or just posting? I'm going to agree with Water on this one. I, also, flamed too much, especially for my first posts, sorry, I'm off to look for something more worthy of contemplation. Though pro torture sentiment does get me a bit hot under the collar, that's not what I should have started out with. Goodbye to this flame war.
Not a D**n thing wrong with waterboarding. Dentistry. Direct stimulation of the pain center. Burn them alive slowly. Enjoy yourself. Just don't delude yourself that anything usefull in the way of information comes out of it. But if this is how the people get their kicks then they should learn from the best. Either do it in public and get the circus entertainment value out of it like the Neros' of the world. Or go for a Stalin and use the fear that untracable disapearances can engender. The half assed way the US does it is SO-O-O juvenile.
exactly but the US is in it to sustain it for war profits... the old guards just railroaded whatever got in their way... the US is ran by global interest so our money is being raped. If they were patriotic, right or wrong, they would of seized all Iraq oil for US interests and make it part of our GDP...
so Stalin would of just nuked Iraq to begin with and then made a new city called Reagan and be done with it.
Thanks GW.
Some things are so obvious that it's hard to believe they even need to be spelled out.
I'm glad people like you have the patience to spell it.
I appreciate that it would have been hard for Obama to keep some of his promises.
Closing GB WOULD have been an easy one. And prosecuting some of the officials responsible would have said a lot both domestically and internationally. Peace prize my lily white ass. I don't know who thinks this makes any administration either respected or feared; or how squandering international goodwill makes any political sense at all.
Closing Guantanamo ? This is not the root of the problem, neither is the solution. It can only be a propaganda move. What you do with detainies ? Send them somewhere else and create a new high secure prison for no trial 'suspects'! I.e. MOVING Guantanamo bay, not closing it. And the prison itself is not the problem, its the policies that created the dark aura around it, move the prison - the aura will stay.
By the way, price award should be stripped at public, with "YES we Can mofo", and given to someone else!