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Nigel Farage: Europe Is Becoming An Orwelian Police State, Ruled By Unelectable Madmen, Which May Soon Be Overrun With Violence

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Nigel Farage made waves recently when he told the Europarliament the truth about the sad fate of the euro experiment. Obviously, it was not taken too lightly by the career politicians who, just like our own, have made it their life mission to lead a failed economic experiment to its sad end, no matter the social cost and public suffering. Today, Farage made a repeat appearance on King World News continuing with his warning that the one most likely outcome of Europe continuing on its autopilot course will be one the culminates with "violence and extremism." To wit: “Nobody dares to admit that they got this whole thing wrong...Once people realize that who they vote for in general elections has become no more than a charade, then if they want to change things, all they are left with is civil disobedience and violence, and we’re beginning to see this already.  In Greece we are seeing small terrorist style attacks that are taking place on EU buildings that are taking place against EU officials...So what happens if you rob people of their rights is they will turn to violence and they will turn to extremism, and that is why I believe these people to be so dangerous."

And some other choice quotes:

  • "Increasingly people see the EU flag as a sign of imperialism. A modern form of imperialism."
  • "Europe may well surive this time around, but a man named Norman Lamont, said if they surive this crisis, they won't survive the next crisis, because they are being held in contempt by the public.
  • "This whole project, this whole dream, this whole modern marxism, has been imposed upon the people of Europe, without their view being sought, and in the case of France and the Netherlands, when they did give their opinion, they simply ignored them and continued"
  • "We are almost at that junction where unless we can persuade these politicians to give us free and fair referendums so that we can decide our future, then we are heading, I am afraid, for some very, very dark days in Europe."
  • The EU is the "abolition of democracy, and in my opinion it is turning our backs on what all those that went before us did in two devastating world wars, because they fought and died so that we the peoples of Europe could be free people, free from tyrrany, and living in democracy."
  • "Complete madness has overcome the European Union: on the broader point there are those here who do see the European project a staging post to one world government"

Full must hear interview with Nigel Farage where he discusses the encroachment of the European police state, and much more, can be found here

And a brief bio on Farage:

Nigel Farage is a founder member of the UK Independence Party, which was established in September 1993. He is the Member of the European Parliament for the South East region and is the leader of the parliamentary party in the EU parliament.

The central aim of the party is the UK's withdrawal from the European Union and to regain control of this nation's governance through our own Parliament at Westminster.

Nigel was a Conservative activist from his schooldays until the overthrow of Margaret Thatcher; John Major's signing of the Maastricht Treaty brought his membership to an end.

 


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Wed, 12/01/2010 - 20:49 | Link to Comment Kyron95131
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and it wont end there neither im afraid...

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:25 | Link to Comment Ray1968
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Why do you think governments are purchasing riot control devices like vehicle mounted microwave guns ... to disperse crowds?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:21 | Link to Comment RECISION
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Yes.

On the positive side, microwaves wont disperse rocks, Molotov cocktails and bullets.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:43 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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But they will explode vital organs

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 06:22 | Link to Comment RECISION
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Well, no not really. It produces an intense burning sensation on the skin.

But that only works at relatively short range - if it is pointing at you.

And if the signal isn't being reflected back, or the vehicle it is mounted on isn't burning or being shot up.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 08:53 | Link to Comment A Proud Canadian
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A tinfoil hat will defeat it (along with a tinfoil poncho!).  Hmmmm, some Alcoa calls?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:30 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:29 | Link to Comment G-R-U-N-T
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Nigel might as well be speaking to the USA.

If we had a batallion of Nigel Farage's as politicians things would be cleaned up in a heart beat!

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:39 | Link to Comment SofaPapa
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Assuming he is as good as his word, I like this guy.  At least I've heard one.  Movements and societal change start small.  But I am so grateful to hear that there are people stepping forward with the charisma and the vision to lead, and who recognize the extreme danger of the the centralizers, without proposing an even harsher more dictatorial state to replace them with.  He's right; we need to win this battle.  It's crucial.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:00 | Link to Comment G-R-U-N-T
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It is indeed crucial. I ache inside when I see such a small minority of politically elite entrenched arrogant statist believing in a system that is so destructive to the masses and this ache turns to nausea when I see an ignorant populace allowing themselves to be ruled this way.

"I do not believe in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance."

-Thomas Carlyle

lyle

 

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:33 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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Nausea turns to indignance.

Indignance turns to anger.

Anger turns to........ (fill in the blank)

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 01:35 | Link to Comment G-R-U-N-T
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Anger turns to a mob mentality.

A mob mentality turns to....(fill in the blank)

 

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 03:42 | Link to Comment MayIMommaDogFac...
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...full-contact-shopping at BestBuy at 4am on the day after Thanksgiving.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 06:10 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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Beautiful.

and back to anger when the ipod is out of stock. That's when indignation rises to a crescendo.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 06:25 | Link to Comment RECISION
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+1  :-)

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:52 | Link to Comment thefatasswilly
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I assume you are arguing for democracy.

The people in America, the most powerful democracy on Earth, don't give a shit about the issues that matter. Dancing with the stars, etc. Why should they be allowed to even vote, if they don't give a shit, and are too stupid to understand the issues anyway?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:07 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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Go back to your ultra racist rants, you know nothing about real Americans or America.  We are a representative Republic not a Democracy..  I hear Hu Jintao needs a little more lotion on his back hurry along now..

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:21 | Link to Comment thefatasswilly
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Address the issue, moron.

There is little difference between representative republic and democracy, or have you not read Mencken?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:28 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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Your a dull tool and Menckens views are not relevant as we all all aware of the limitations of the Republic form.  We have plenty of jackasses worshipping jackasses here, we know that.. What we never hear you extol is the virtues of Hu Jintao and his command and control economy..  Your crash is coming and it will be harder and much more brutal than ours.  850 million peasants are going to get pissed again and you sound like an intellectual, at least to a chinese peasant with a pitchfork and an empty belly.  Bye..

Now go rub the lotion on Hu Jintao..

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:32 | Link to Comment thefatasswilly
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I am not extolling Hu Jintao, who will replaced in 2012 anyway. I have never even typed his name on this forum, you dimwit. "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, simple minds discuss people." Thus far, you have only attempted to discuss Hu Jintao and myself. Seriously, shut the fuck up.

I am expressing serious concern over the viability of democracy, and you are still refusing to address the issue. Instead, you attempt to rely on personal attacks without addressing the fucking topic at hand. I mean, yes, I am a racist. Does that mean that the ideas I have posed are any less relevant? No, you fucking imbecile.

Shut the fuck up unless you have something to contribute.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:48 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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So as to establish an understanding of your point of view; Are we a Constitutional Democracy or are we a Constitutional Republic?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 04:39 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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It is quite easy.

Democracy is a political ideology.

Republic is a form of government, meaning that ruling charges are public (res publica as opposed to res privata, when  ruling charges are privately owned, inherited and open to purchase/selling)

Propagandists, delusional people like to oppose a political ideology to a form of government. A sure win in confusion land. And a clear attempt to avoid discussing the reality.

The US are a constitutional republic based on the political ideology known as democracy.

Iran is a constitutional republic based on the political ideology known as theocracy.

Crisis are good to exhibit real causes of success. In normal times, the top dogs can and do like to lie on the way they achieve success. In times of crisis, though, they are compelled to exhibit what makes them successfull, their ultimate recipes.

They would prefer not.

The US has been extremely apt in the extortion, farming business. The best of all. Yet the US prefers to depict its way to  success in other terms.

Too bad Ben Bernanke  is at starving people around in order to keep the US afloat. Does not help the myth...

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:41 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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If I may; calm yourself.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:47 | Link to Comment thefatasswilly
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Sigh. I am calm. This is NOT about ME, Jesus Mary and Joseph fuck. I admit I am becoming a bit less calm.

This is about DEMOCRACY! Once again, if the people do not give a shit about the issues, what right do they have to vote?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 01:07 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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My comment was directed at Calmyourself.

Can you expand on my question directed to you above?

ie: Are we a Constitutional Democracy or are we a Constitutional Republic?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 01:43 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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I feel quite calm Al, thanks for the concern. 

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 01:54 | Link to Comment thefatasswilly
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Well, to answer your question, we must probe deeper.

Originally, America was a constitutional republic. However, at this point in time, America is a corporate fascist state (China's corporate fascist state is similar, but opposite: its corporations were all spawned by the state, and subordinate to it. This method of government may prove superior).

However, republic vs. democracy matters little, because the same idiot mob, uninformed and complacent on the real issues, are the real sovereign power in either case (it is via mind control, aka television and movies, of said sovereign power that the corporations have thus attained an even higher, fascist power). That is the issue I am bringing up.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 04:03 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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OK, now I have a peg to hang my hat on. 

Rules of debate; any vulgarities and I leave.

Question, you seem to have a handle on the historical and present mix of those holding the balance of power in the US. Today's oligarchical controllers wield the big stick and have formed a fascist alliance with congress. As far as representative government goes, how does one form of fascism hold the moral high ground over another?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:35 | Link to Comment thefatasswilly
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Morality means little to me; I look only at results and effectiveness.

The representative government of America has obviously resulted in fascism; the mob welcomes it. There is no alternative, because that's how history played out.

P.S. The world is of full of vulgarities; I suggest you harden your skin and your heart. I do enjoy your name, though.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:35 | Link to Comment thefatasswilly
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Morality means little to me; I look only at results and effectiveness.

The representative government of America has obviously resulted in fascism; the mob welcomes it. There is no alternative, because that's how history played out.

P.S. The world is of full of vulgarities; I suggest you harden your skin and your heart. I do enjoy your name, though.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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Let me re-word it to "superior' then.

However, if one is going to debate politics, there has to be an acknowledgment that the majority of regime changes in history, where the people occur because of some moral indignation over fat cat indifference to the individual's plight. This usually leads to revolt and a demand for balanced representation through liberty, property rights and freedom of speech and so. Both China and the US governments are not recognizing  those liberties. When moral codes die, so does Liberty.

Fri, 12/03/2010 - 11:15 | Link to Comment thefatasswilly
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Ah, what a pleasant debate! This is what I look for on zerohedge.

Your analysis of revolution is spot on . . . for western culture. However, I do believe that we have entered into a new era, where revolution is impossible.

Why? The shadows on the wall, my friend; the television and movie screens keep the masses enslaved. No power as diabolical and all encompassing has ever existed before. We few who have broken free from the cave and see the world are rare, scattered, and powerless against the almighty mob.

The east faces this same problem, in addition to the fact that the people see a paternalistic state as the norm. It has been thus since before the time of your western savior.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 01:52 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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They are allowed to vote for a representative to represent them because that is how our very successful system most correctly identified as a representative Republic was set up.  I may not like the fact that citizens who do not fully understand the system or the issues are allowed to vote.  However, our system has worked much, much longer and much better than yours..  In the immortal words of Churchill
"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."

Command and control not so much.  By the way no matter how much you deride our system those peasants are still coming for you.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 01:55 | Link to Comment thefatasswilly
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You're extolling a republic, then quote Churchill talking about why DEMOCRACY is great . . . your Churchill quote doesn't even express WHY democracy is great.

Refer to my quote, you fucking moron.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 02:03 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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Your inability to grasp the integral relationship between the two shows just how shallow you are.. Every American and most Europeans know exactly the relationship this quote has to the American Representative Republic, you really do not grasp it do you.

Besides, is there anyone else on this entire site that must resort too and apparently needs to abuse others with as much vulgarity as you?  You are a vulgar little chinese puppet, trapped in a failing mercantile system who simply lashes out, reminds me of a dying dragon whipping his worthless tail.

How is that inflation treating you over there, peasants getting enough to eat?  True power exports inflation, psuedo power absorbs it.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 02:12 | Link to Comment thefatasswilly
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I insult you because you are indeed a moron, and here is why:

1) You have not responded to my initial query, something about idiot mobs, which you obviously belong to, and voting, which you obviously should be banned from ever doing, considering how fucking stupid you are.

2) Your response was to attempt to personally insult me, instead of, once again, addressing the issue at hand, which, once again, you have failed to do except spew some random quote by a dead white guy stating that democracy is the greatest thing EVAR . . . without explaining WHY.

You have nothing of substance to say. Shut the fuck up. You are worthless.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 02:17 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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Ha, I answered your question about why mobs vote in America you just chose not to read it.  You are such an angry little puppet you start with vulgarities and you seem shocked when someone would question your intelligence or education.  I got it, your a Chinese Progressive, thats another American thing you won't quite grasp. 

Enough of that, why not tell us more about your system. We could use a little more knowledge about the grand Chinese experiment with mercantilism and how you think it will end for you, fire or ice..

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 02:48 | Link to Comment thefatasswilly
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"they are allowed to vote for a representative to represent them because that is how our very successful system most correctly identified as a representative Republic was set up."

It's the best because that's how it is. Great explanation, moron.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 08:13 | Link to Comment BigJim
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To answer your earlier question: why should a moronic public, with no interest in deeper issues (such as economics), be given the vote?

I am not a US constitutional scholar, but my understanding is that, as originally envisioned by the 'founding fathers', the role of the popular vote was to enable the populace to throw out a government without having to resort to violence. It was not seen as a mechanism whereby the voter could elect leaders who, to paraphrase Mencken, advance auction stolen goods.

The government was to be small, and not the redistributive mechanism it has since become, where you now essentially have a tyranny of the majority (or largest minorities).

Aristotle commented that most democracies had failed for this very reason - the poloi ('the many') wind up trying to take all the wealth of the more successful, who, being more intelligent/aggressive/proactive/influential/take your pick, seize back power.

In our latest incarnation, we have the middle class squeezed by the mass of voters (who vote for politicians who espouse redistributive policies), and the elites (who can afford to buy government policies).

It's ugly. As yet, though, it still seems preferable to living in China... though for how long, remains to be seen.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 10:00 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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Mr. Willy already knows this as it is inherent in the way he asks the question.  He is a political troll.  When Churchills quote regarding democracy is dismissed as having nothing to do with the American experiment of Representative Republicanism the educational section of the tour is over.

Each man was born with God given inalienable rights which is why in the end we all have the vote for better or worse.  The spark of godly creation was seen in all men by the founders of the country.  This is not to say voting largesse from the treasury is not a bug, we know it is.  Reverting the franchise based on land ownership or other criteria may be difficult at this point but probably necessary.

Surely, America is the only country where a forum is set up for Chinese living under self admitted evolved oligarchial fascists to question a system that has lasted longer, been more successful economically than anything they have ever accomplished.  This while calling the adherents of that system complete jerks, over and over.  Mr. willy should be learning that open systems like ours are stronger than is by a magnitude but that lesson escapes him.

Besides instead of telling us what is wrong where is the instruction on the better system?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 01:55 | Link to Comment G-R-U-N-T
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Hey Fatass,

Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups!!! I argue for a Republic not a democracy because what you are witnessing today in Europe and sadly America is the pitiful residue of what happens in a democracy.

To give some clarity...A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the Constitution). A democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule). A Republic recognizes the inalienable rights of individuals while democracies are only concerned with group wants or needs (the public good).

 

Nigel has brass balls, guts, and is willing to tell it like it is. I enjoyed watching him pulling the covers of Mr. van Rompuy and all the European banksta's, commissioners, and politicians that believe this Marxist unity crap. They are indeed a legend in their own minds. These are what I call sophisticated idiots because the residue of their ideas manifested always end up causing chaos to the masses and eventually their own annihilation.

America has a Constitution and if we had more courageous politicians to uphold it's principles vs. their re-election ambitions we would have a better America. But at least we have a Constitution. What does Europe have?

 

 

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 14:31 | Link to Comment A Proud Canadian
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Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups!!!

...and quite a few pregnancies, as well!

 

 

Fri, 12/03/2010 - 00:40 | Link to Comment G-R-U-N-T
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LOL...Indeed!

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 10:16 | Link to Comment 2blackdogs
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I wouldn't count on anything being cleaned up anytime soon.                 http://gillettenewsrecord.com/articles/2010/11/28/news/today/news04.txt

The US has just given RUSSIA CONTROL of 2 URANIUM MINES in Gillette WY?

 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:12 | Link to Comment destraht
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Its for zombies. Brainless, dead, impassioned zombies.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 20:58 | Link to Comment mynhair
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Wed, 12/01/2010 - 20:55 | Link to Comment themosmitsos
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This whole Anglo-American anti-EU cheering & celebration of the death of the EU is idiotic & sidesteps the issue that yes, perhaps things are as bleak he says, but at least in the EU people are aware of it, and protesting it & opposing it, while in the US everyone lubes up, bends over, & sucks on The Ben. Ber--nank teat as if it's nectar.

Reality Check

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 20:58 | Link to Comment Bill D. Cat
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Dude , that's not his teat .

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:48 | Link to Comment TheSettler
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+2"

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:03 | Link to Comment flacon
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Hey "thermo". Did you ever hear of "hurricane Katrina"? THAT is what is going to happen to USA when (WHEN) and (ONLY WHEN) the system finally breaks down. Until the system BREAKS DOWN - the "dependents" will continue to buy the latest gadgets at Wal-Mart. 

 

By the way,.... most of the "useless eaters" are the spawn of socialism - and when socialism's teat dries up, they DIE. 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:27 | Link to Comment Dr. Sandi
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A little reminder that the "useless eaters" are the people who do the real work. They grow the food, fix the streets, put out the fires and repair the devices. No, they are not special snowflakes, and a lot of them are scum. But they are the ones who get the work done while the elite dream up new ways to rip them off.

I wouldn't want to live with most of them, but that's why we have separate huts.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:59 | Link to Comment Nick Jihad
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You seem to have conflated "low class" with "welfare-state dependent". And as for "new ways to rip them off", the most successful method by far, is to offer them the means to rip their neighbors off, from the privacy of the ballot-box. It works every time.

 

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 06:17 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:08 | Link to Comment flacon
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How can a "useless eater" be a farmer, or anyone who PRODUCES product? I'm talking about the "welfare state" when I say useless eaters - because without the government they really would die. 

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 02:03 | Link to Comment trav7777
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Are you on crack?

Nowhere but New Orleans, in any recent disaster, turned into "Katrina."  I submit that the outcome has more to do with the people involved than the disaster.

Contrast the massive floods in the Mississippi Valley and the wildfires in San Diego.  If you are around the type of people who live in the Easy, then you should expect all the trappings of disorder around that type of people, looting, mayhem, roadside corpses, etc.  If you are in the Kobe quake where an order of magnitude more died, then you should expect an outome typified by the type of people there.

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Reminds me of a story.  They said in Soviet Russia the news was complete BS.  But the people atleast knew the news was BS.

In America today the news is complete BS.  But a lot of people seem UNAWARE of that fact!

Check out our PsychoNews Update, 12/1 Edition:  "This week's PsychoNews Update will start with a short anecdote from history. The year is 1815, and Napoleon has just been defeated at Waterloo.  There is a blockade on the English Channel, but a ship belonging to a certain banker named Rothschild is allowed through.  The Rothschilds are already prominent bankers, but they are on the verge of their greatest ever 'trade'... "

http://psychonews.site90.net

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by Bill D. Cat 
on Wed, 12/01/2010 - 19:58
#770356

Dude , that's not his teat .


by TheSettler 
on Wed, 12/01/2010 - 20:48
#770448

+2"

When erect, not flaccid.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 03:47 | Link to Comment MayIMommaDogFac...
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+2"

funniest numerical in about a month!

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:18 | Link to Comment Rick64
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LOL

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:01 | Link to Comment Aductor
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+1

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:53 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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Protesting what?  Loosing their entitlements?  No one in the U.S. has lost their entitlements yet.  Compare apples with apples.  Wait untill the "entitled" in this country get bent over then make a comparison.  Until then I point to Ireland who just got buttfu$%ed and took it like a two dollar whore!

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:54 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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Yea junk me then run without showing your balls.  Consider this if the EU is so much more aware of what is going on and outraged why are you letting the printing presses roll?  Massive purchases of government and euro zone bank debt by the ECB; quantitative easing on a herculean scale.  Isn't that what you tits told the U.S. was the wrong plan of attack?  Hypocrites.

Where is the angst from the German public now that their money is being devalued on a colossal scale?  I haven't seen them out protesting the ECB?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 02:00 | Link to Comment Cecil Rhodes
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ECB wants to turn Ireland into a goat pasture.  Funny how that was to be Germany's fate not long ago...

 

 

it's people

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:59 | Link to Comment UGrev
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Reality check. There are thousands of us ready to rock. There is no one to lead. Right now there are groups running, for the most part, leaderless just waiting for it to be "too late" because it will HAVE to be "too late" before the storming of the castle can begin. 

Taking it up the ass? perhaps some.. the others are watching and waiting...patiently.  

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 04:28 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Waiting for what?  Their turn for taking it up the @ss?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:29 | Link to Comment jedimarkus
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we don't even get lube anymore...

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:04 | Link to Comment flacon
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Well.. we get "POMO" - the latest brand, after "HOMO" went bankrupt. 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:33 | Link to Comment YHC-FTSE
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+1

 

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 10:22 | Link to Comment G-R-U-N-T
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Hey Themo,

Your name isn't "Richard Head" is it, because while your European asses were getting annihilated in WW I and II who delivered your ass, ungrateful asshole????

We can handle our own problems and in time we will. Who do you think is going to come to Europe's rescue?

When the world witnessed our Civil War the effect put other countries in check, because what they witnessed was unlike anything the world had ever seen. Perhaps you should study the historical consequence of our warriors in terms of what it has done to save Europe from it's own tyranny.

 

 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 20:59 | Link to Comment Aductor
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The EU is the least of the problems in Europe. The EMU/Euro is the BIG problem. Whereas EU has expanded its scope beyond legitimacy (as most entities do), turning a good idea to a monolitic bureaucratic colossus, the EMU was flawed from the start and by design. Break up the Euro/EMU and many problems will be solved.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 20:59 | Link to Comment NOTW777
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many of these things could be said about the us

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:04 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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Except for one, civil uprising (in protest of theft of sovereignty, Liberty and Freedom).

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:34 | Link to Comment BobPaulson
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YES.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:02 | Link to Comment PuppetRepubl1c
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KingWorldNews has great content, definitely one of the best podcast sites on the net in my opinion

 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:07 | Link to Comment flacon
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My GPS has mp3 player. I download and listen every week as I drive to my "job" in this fake economy. 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:34 | Link to Comment azusgm
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+1

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:08 | Link to Comment Spalding_Smailes
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The Disastrous Consequences of a Return to the Deutsche Mark

Europe is discussing the horror scenario of a break-up of the euro zone. At present, that still seems unlikely, but experts are alarmed. A comeback of national currencies would be fatal -- especially for Germany.

The deutsche mark is still around. Even almost nine full years after the introduction of euro notes and coins, German households still have an estimated 13 billion deutsche marks -- stashed in hiding places, in collections or under grandma's mattress. And, if opinion polls are to be believed, almost 50 percent of Germans would like to see the currency reintroduced as the country's official means of payment.(NakedCapitalism)

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,731798,00.html

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:24 | Link to Comment AchtungAffen
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Well, that's true. I wonder why you got junked. Oh, wait, it's Zerohedge after the ramblings of Nigel, people are too high for a reality check.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:48 | Link to Comment Cdad
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Well, ummmm, the junking might have something to do with his regular and stupid posts, and the stupidity of the character he chooses to represtent him in avatar form.

Not really hard to grasp...which likely makes you dumber than he.

Junk you...

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:09 | Link to Comment flacon
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Actually, Cdad, "flag as junk" really means "Thankspost" since there is no way to show appreciation. LOL! 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:34 | Link to Comment OldTrooper
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Hmmm...seems like it's getting pretty expensive to stay in the EU, what with all your neighbors needing bailouts.  And there are probably opportunity costs too.

And didn't any influence Europe had evaporate after WWII anyway?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:04 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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Dark days here in America as well. Our own EU currently known as the Federal Reserve even goes so far as to loan money to European banks to support the EU. No accountability and no audit. Not voted upon and certainly not agreed to this credit exposure. Insane Bernanke or sane he puts us all at risk. These people are no doubt a danger to democracy and our freedoms. If this does not lead to the end of the Federal Reserve what exactly will?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:08 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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Still married to the democracy paradigm, eh?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:04 | Link to Comment Silversinner
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hear hear!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:11 | Link to Comment Fraud-Esq
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I can't fucking believe GS didn't disclose ANYTHING re its BILLIONS in PDCR borrowing in the SEC filings. Nothing whatsoever, even vague notation without dollar amounts. 

This means one of TWO things:

1) They were promised by the FED it wouldn't be disclosed to anyone, ever.

2) The prez waived them from reporting under that Bush executive order waiver I read about long ago...

Either way, this is a big deal. Did anyone disclose anything? Is this a pattern of 100%???

 

Al banks should have had a "continuing concern" comment and still should. What sort of deal have they worked out with the USG and their D&O insurance?

 

"In its quarterly filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, Goldman Sachs didn’t disclose that it borrowed from the PDCF." - bloomberg

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:02 | Link to Comment cosmictrainwreck
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What surprises me is you sound so surprised. You, of all people, F-E. "Why...why, that's against the law, dammit! They can't do that!" Bet yer ass. I was so stunned in the beginning at how blatantly obvious all these assholes were, but maybe more to come? It's almost like its a game: "hey, let's all do this"...."uh, OK". Then they stand right there with dicks hanging out and say "na-na-na-na-ye-na-na-na ...whatcha gonna do about it, punk?"

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:48 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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They smirk at our apparent cowardice.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:30 | Link to Comment Dr. Sandi
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Quiet. You've been properly fucked. Now roll over and go to sleep.

 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:08 | Link to Comment Ham Wallet
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Somebody is rousering my rabble!!!!!!

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:08 | Link to Comment mynhair
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Meanwhile, Kathleen Parker walks out on Spitzer.  Tired of being second fiddle on a show with no viewers.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 01:19 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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Nigel Farage makes a statement that our forefathers fought and died for democracy. Maybe in his country, yes, but that's not the case in the US.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:15 | Link to Comment lynnybee
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...... luv KING WORLD NEWS ...... luv ZEROHEDGE ......... I found my news sites !!   I hope someone who reads my comments might chime in ....... 3 weeks ago I cancelled my cable, I have no access anymore to CNBC, CNN, MSNBC or FOX .... at first it was difficult not to have those channels, but, I'm slowly getting used to watching KATHY LEE & HODA every morning. 

I AM CNBC - FREE   !!

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:23 | Link to Comment cosmictrainwreck
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I'll chime in, lynnybee - just 'cause you sound cute...HA! good for you on the cable - I still have it (recreational purposes only) Plus am always dying to hear what CNBS butt-heads are slathering about

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:34 | Link to Comment DeltaDawn
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I have been tv free also for about 2 months. My Tweens were trying to watch "Housewives of x County" and all the crap their friends are. I could not take the hypnosis box one more second! Our country and the world are on fire but you sure would not know it on cable. Saving $, saving my sanity and finding better things to do.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:22 | Link to Comment Rick64
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Congratulations, Over 1 yr. without t.v. and my head is a lot clearer.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:15 | Link to Comment flacon
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I "TiVo"'d the winter Olympics (the only thing I watch on TV). I have about 120 hours left to watch. I think I am on day 2. It will make good entertainment after the crash, when I come in from the fields all tired and sore from picking my vegetables. Gotta save some FUN for the GOOD TIMES! 

 

Sadly, I'm not joking. 

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 02:36 | Link to Comment Hook Line and S...
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Me too... I cancelled my cable and now nobody likes me because I have nothing in common with them. I cry every night now. I'm sooooo sad. Whaaaaaaa

I do miss CNBS for the laughs and guffaws. I have to find my humor delivered from the Banzai himself.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 03:56 | Link to Comment MayIMommaDogFac...
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Once you stop watching -- you'll never go back.  It is practically like being electrocuted when I have to endure it at other people's houses.  It's different after you are away from it.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 09:31 | Link to Comment RKDS
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I never even signed up for cable when I moved out on my own, though Comcast sends me the same ad every week without fail.  Frankly, given the quality of TV today, I get more out of watching old Thundercats DVDs than all of the propaganda channels combined.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:47 | Link to Comment Rick64
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 They constantly call me and try to get me to sign up for cable, when I tell them I don't watch t.v. all you here is a pause on the other side. They do not have a response for that, and it kind of blindsides them.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:45 | Link to Comment Rick64
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 Thats the truth, once you remove yourself from t.v. watching the stupidity of its programs and dumbing down is clear.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:27 | Link to Comment RECISION
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Good on you  :-)

Definitely saving your sanity.

Been two years for me, and has done wonders for my blood pressure.

+1000 on finding better things to do.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:10 | Link to Comment DisparityFlux
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Dear lynnybee,

I just received a tweet from a very distraught Becky Quick.  She is just devastated you were unable to tune into her special "The Billionaire's Road Trip" which aired Tuesday, November 30th at 9PM ET.  If you email her your address, she will send you an autographed 8x10 color photo of her fawning all over Warren Buffett.

P.S.  The show's sponsors want you to consume more stuff.


Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:18 | Link to Comment gwar5
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I took the money and ran after the .com bubble so haven't watched CNBC much since....

ZH is a crystal ball of economic reality into the future. Makes me feel like I'm looking over Bernanke's shoulder. Drudge, because it sets the general news cycle. KWN and GATA for economic and PM backdrop.

The KWN interviews, like this indispensable Farage piece, give me clarity to complicated issues that have a lot of moving parts. Farage totally nails what is going on inside the EU from their own perspective. Farage is telling us the EU is a discredited and dangerous model. Everybody who hears him knows he's F'ing right.

But I still gotta have my HD for sports.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:16 | Link to Comment flacon
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You can get your own crystal ball (a small one) by reading and understanding the Austrian School of Economics. ZH does have the "master crystal ball" though. 

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 02:45 | Link to Comment Hook Line and S...
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It's not just a crystal ball, it's a...

  • university where you actually learn instead of getting laid
  • an addictive drug, and
  • a soothsayer of your personal cash register, and
  • a haunt for the likes of all sorts of those wishing to provide real knowledge, as well as 'sponsored disinfo' (which gets called out by the alumni quite often)

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 04:38 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Still, ya know its gotta grate on Irish nerves that an Englishman like Farage is the only one sticking up for them.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:20 | Link to Comment Rick64
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 Your only half way there, stop watching t.v. altogether.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:42 | Link to Comment azusgm
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Gotta have my C-SPAN.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:42 | Link to Comment Rick64
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Use the internet.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:40 | Link to Comment dogbreath
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Lynnybee

 

I have been TV free for all of but 6 months of the last 28 years.  I am the worst possible guest to join you watching the news because i will comment.  Freedom 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qezM-Ly5dYM

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:36 | Link to Comment Landrew
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Welcome to the real world! It doesn't get any more real than ZH!

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:09 | Link to Comment Syntaxkat
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ya, lynnybee.  i did the same years ago, hard at first but if you need mind numbing there's always online streaming like justin.tv or other sites.  I get my news here and channel the interest generated by the MSM to see if it has legs, usually once main street picks up the info the play has been made or you can see the suppression of the story.  congrat's again for quitting the boob tube.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:52 | Link to Comment samsara
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Lynnybee

Also try www.globalresearch.ca

Notice that nearly all articles have all references footnoted.

  Like this one;

Financial Meltdown on Wall Street

  

by Michel Chossudovsky - 2010-11-24 This money did not vanish. It was confiscated from the pockets of people who had invested their lifelong savings in the stock market...

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:00 | Link to Comment samsara
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Ah,  TV

Frank Zappa - I am the Slime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1IzySRln_I

 

I am gross and perverted
Im obsessed n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little had changed I am the tool of the government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think Im delicious
With the stuff that I say
I am the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I am the slime oozin out
From your tv set

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't got for help...no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold

That's right, folks..
Don't touch that dial

 ----------------------

 "The illusion of freedom [in America ] will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."

~Frank Zappa
Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:16 | Link to Comment MrTrader
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Nigel Farage? Ex REFCO Overseas Ltd. Broker, London in the 90´s. You trust what a Ex-broker has to say ? LOL ! That´s like trusting Mrs. Merkel to solve the EUR "crisis"....

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:28 | Link to Comment GrouchoNotKarl
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No, I think you missed the point.  He doesn't state he has the answers. He's stating that the options to come to the answers (democratic process) are being revoked unilaterally by the MEPs.  I trust him as much as I trust you, but at least having the OPTION to converse these issues is better than not. It was and has always been about central command and control vs the ground-up/grass-root solution deriving method that the world has struggled to resolve over millennia.

 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:19 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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“Nobody dares to admit that they got this whole thing wrong...Once people realize that who they vote for in general elections has become no more than a charade".... sounds like here.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:24 | Link to Comment Buttcathead
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So, where is my Regional FEMA Camp location again ?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:48 | Link to Comment robobbob
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No need to know the location. Your local area transportation coordinator will handle all of the arraingements. And those nice young men in black will assist you. Never mind the guns, those are for your protection. Remember, we're from the government, and we're here to help.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:05 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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Yes help you right to the nearest Soylent Green factory.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:24 | Link to Comment Fred Hayek
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We've always been at war with East Asia.

We've always been at war with East Asia.

And I don't trust those fuckers from Oceania either!

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:24 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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How long before some politically compromised academic calls for Farage's assassination?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:49 | Link to Comment Cdad
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Until tomorrow?  You know, as the worst fund managers on Wall are chasing stupid stocks?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 03:10 | Link to Comment saulysw
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I think these days they ask interpol to get a rape charge going...

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:30 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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During the Lisbon Treaty debacles, laws were passed under secrecy. Have a listen.

MEP Exposes The EU Lisbon Treaty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kr0Foq3CQE

The same approach has been adopted here in the United States. Authoritarian oligarchies is the norm, democracy is simply a media/public servant talking point.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:41 | Link to Comment DeltaDawn
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We are victims of the same perps!

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:58 | Link to Comment putbuyer
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I'm Portuguese. I may go there in January. The Portuguese are introverts. they will not protest. yes - there have been some small protests, but this is just fluff. The Portuguese are breaking point people. Only when you go too far will they rise up and fight. The slow drip keeps them in check. The NY Times wrote an article about the Portuguese some 15 years ago. There is no people like them, introverts who kill en mass when the time is ripe for war and survival. I know my people, and when we see first blood, Dying does not matter - killing is all that matters and securing a place for the children. When we click into KILL, there is no going back.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:17 | Link to Comment DisparityFlux
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Portuguese man-of-wars == Berserkers?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:35 | Link to Comment GrouchoNotKarl
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So the Portuguese are Europe's how-much-shit-will-they-take barometer? Once a certain level is reached it's an all-or-nothing response? 

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 05:21 | Link to Comment Shylockracy
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There was a famed Portuguese colonial commander in Guiné Bissau who used to collect ears in formaldehyde jars. He had a large collection.

It would be amusing to see the Portuguese filling jars with Eurotraitors' tongues.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:44 | Link to Comment Jim Billy Bob J...
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The rural south and the heartland is preparing for some type of conflict.  As I travel through fly-over country, I hear more and more that the people in the middle are sick and tired of both the east coast and the west coast establishment.  You can only push so far....

http://

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX56rbqZhto Cached .Play Video
Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Ricky Bobby
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I live in the heartland. Came here from the east coast as a refugee. Figure it is a last stand in some ways.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:20 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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Your right, both sides pushed into the sea..

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:48 | Link to Comment velobabe
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i like the first name being, Nigel†

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 01:15 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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I like raindrops on roses, oh, and whiskers on kittens.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:51 | Link to Comment liberal sodomy
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There are only 535 members of CONgress if you catch my drift.  I'm amazed none have been made examples of as of yet.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:56 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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I'm amazed none have been made examples of as of yet.

 

Are you forgetting Paul Wellstone?

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:56 | Link to Comment lynnybee
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thanks ..... the nicest people are on ZEROHEDGE .

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:07 | Link to Comment cdskiller
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Farange is speaking the unspeakable truth. Unless bankers are thrown in jail, financial violence inevitably leads to political violence.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:12 | Link to Comment Bigger Dickus
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Just another idiot who believes democracy=freedom. Could not be more wrong.

The Founding Fathers and just about any libertarian worth his/her salt knows all democracies eventually crumble.

 

A REPUBLIC CAN'T BE A DEMOCRACY.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:42 | Link to Comment Mark Medinnus
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Mission creep touches every form of government.  All crumble.  And in minor contretemps: you mistake Nigel for an idiot of your own making.  You've read his words.  Now come to terms with their meaning. 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:43 | Link to Comment GrouchoNotKarl
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To wit:  I have this favorited,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE

10 min of re-education to unlearn what people have learned in public schools.

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:43 | Link to Comment Lord Welligton
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A REPUBLIC CAN'T BE A DEMOCRACY.

Correct.

Funny. Not many know that.

 

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 04:46 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Correct in what world? Delusional  people, propagandists world?

Of course, a republic can be based on democracy. Dozens of examples around the world.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 01:17 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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Thar she blows!

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:26 | Link to Comment AchtungAffen
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"Nobody dares to admit that they got this whole thing wrong...Once people realize that who they vote for in general elections has become no more than a charade, then if they want to change things, all they are left with is civil disobedience and violence, and we’re beginning to see this already." ... "Now pass that euro sponsored wine and cheese I'm hungry as a mudafuka".

You got to love this guy who has been suckling the beeg goobermint he so much hates...

 

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:31 | Link to Comment walcott
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maybe this guy gets the party started. Washington had cash and influence too.

Not like Washington was hanging out at a drum circle smoking dope. Nothing wrong with hanging out at the drum circle smoking dope. But peace signs and Graffiti and paintings of NWObama is not revolutionary.  

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:43 | Link to Comment walcott
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maybe this guy gets the party started. Washington had cash and influence too.

Not like Washington was hanging out at a drum circle smoking dope. Nothing wrong with hanging out at the drum circle smoking dope. But peace signs and Graffiti and paintings of NWObama is not revolutionary.  

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