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Nigel Farage To European Parliament: "The Euro Game Is Up... Just Who The Hell Do You Think You Are? You Are Very Dangerous People"
Famous euroskeptic Nigel Farage (as seen previously here), in just under 4 brief minutes tells more truth about the entire European experiment than all European bankers, commissioners, and politicians have done in the past decade. As we have already said pretty much all of this before, we present it without commentary: "Good morning Mr. van Rompuy, you've been in office for one year, and in that time the whole edifice is beginning to crumble, there's chaos, the money's running out, I should thank you - you should perhaps be the pinup boy of the euroskeptic movement. But just look around this chamber this morning, look at these faces, look at the fear, look at the anger. Poor Barroso here looks like he's seen a ghost. They're beginning to understand that the game is up. And yet in their desperation to preserve their dream, they want to remove any remaining traces of democracy from the system. And it's pretty clear that none of you have learned anything. When you yourself Mr. van Rompuy say that the euro has brought us stability, I supposed I could applaud you for having a sense of humor, but isn't this really just the bunker [or banker?] mentality. Your fanaticism is out in the open. You talk about the fact that it was a lie to believe that the nation state could exist in the 21st century globalized world. Well, that may be true in the case of Belgium who haven't had a government for 6 months, but for the rest of us, right across every member state in this union, increasingly people are saying, "We don't want that flag, we don't want the anthem, we don't want this political class, we want the whole thing consigned to the dustbin of history." We had the Greek tragedy earlier on this year, and now we have the situation in Ireland. I know that the stupidity and greed of Irish politicians has a lot to do with this: they should never, ever have joined the euro. They suffered with low interest rates, a false boom and a massive bust. But look at your response to them: what they are being told as their government is collapsing is that it would be inappropriate for them to have a general election. In fact commissioner Rehn here said they had to agree to a budget first before they are allowed to have a general election. Just who the hell do you think you people are. You are very, very dangerous people indeed: your obsession with creating this European state means that you are happy to destroy democracy, you appear to be happy with millions and millions of people to be unemployed and to be poor. Untold millions will suffer so that your euro dream can continue. Well it won't work, cause its Portugal next with their debt levels of 325% of GDP they are the next ones on the list, and after that I suspect it will be Spain, and the bailout for Spain will be 7 times the size of Ireland, and at that moment all the bailout money will is gone - there won't be any more. But it's even more serious than economics, because if you rob people of their identity, if you rob them of their democracy, then all they are left with is nationalism and violence. I can only hope and pray that the euro project is destroyed by the markets before that really happens."
h/t Ian
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Trident, F111, Perishing II is what did that.
Ronnie, Maggie, THE Pope, HP Laserjets ...
Classic Farage, I wonder who was applauding. Surely not the other members of the Euro Parliament? I doubt they have a public gallery for peasants to come in a watch proceedings. Perghaps it was some journos? Good for him anyway, anything that makes those fuckers uncomfortable is worthy of applause.
They weren't clapping when Farrage confronted Von Roumpus about how he came to power. Farage is at least getting some backing.
I love those stinging tongue lashings from the brits.
Simply stated he was f*****g brilliant.
nobody takes that guy serious, all he does is trying to get attention by insulting other politicians.
He never did shit
He will never do shit
en he's a brit.
It's kind of stupid that ZH post this crap.
You honestly are an idiot.
He's a populist that only speak to morons.
People like yourself.
Sudden Debt so youre saying he's wrong and the correct path is these endless suicidal bailouts, like a heroin addict on a downward spiral binge and thats a good thing?
Seems to me he said just the right thing, to the right people, in just the right place, at just the right time, and it all needed to be said on behalf of others who have been excluded and ignored, in the service of those who have usurped a priotity and status in society that they definitely shouldn't have, didn't actually earn, and don't deserve to keep and and should have forcibly removed if they continue.
Stocks and cabbages time.
I'd call what he said doing-something ... and a lot of people will see it that way and encourage him, and especially others, to say and do a whole lot more to kick these usurpers out, and put them in the stocks.
Open ridicule is most appropriate.
Farage said all the right things? You must be joking.
His only argument is that joining the Euro caused Ireland and Greece and other countries to suffer from low interest rates, a fake boom and a massive bust..
And he says this as a Brit, when the UK who never joined the Euro, actually has the biggest private debt and real estate bubble in the Western World. When Iceland, who never joined neither the EU no the Euro, was the first country to go bust.
The EU and the Euro have many shortcommings but being the cause of the massive debt bubble and hyper consumerism from debt is certainly not one of them.
Farage can't make a single cogent argument. Nobody serious will ever listen to him.
I referred to the CONTENT of what was said, who it was said to, and where it was said, and on the behalf of who he said it for.
If you have a dim view on him personally, for other reasons, of history or geography or political flavor, I don’t see how that’s germane to taking what he said ‘seriously’. Or being in general agreement with it.
I also referred to the content of what he said : he claimed that if Ireland hadn't joined the Euro it wouldn't have suffered from low interest rates, a fake boom and a massive bust.
Praytell, did Iceland join the Euro? did the UK join the Euro?
Haven't they both suffered from exactly the same things as Ireland, a massive private debt bubble, a hyperinflated banking system, a massive real estate bubble...
Next. He throws in the debt level of Portugal at 325% of GDP. But what about that of the UK? Why doesn't he mention that the UK is at 475% ? Did he forget that? Which country is he from? Oh, but the UK doesn't have the Euro so that'd be too bad for his argument.
I don't care about his politics. What I care is that he can't make a single cogent argument.
So - you think if Ireland or Spain (or the rest of the PIIGS) hadn't joined the EMU, they wouldn't have had the cheap interest rates that allowed them to borrow and spend like drunken sailors? The same low rates that allowed the historically more solvent UK do the same?
It's you who are not making the cogent argument.
NO I think the contrary. It's Farage who argues this nonsense. But if Ireland still had the Punt and Spain still had the peseta they would have been able to borrow and spend like drunken sailors exactly in the same way as with the Euro.
Exactly as the British were able to borrow and spend like drunken sailors with the pound. And the Icelandic with the Kroner.
For crissakes rates were low for all OECD currencies, not only the Euro.
The Euro is 10 year old. The spending binge from debt started 30 years ago.
With or without the Euro, the results would have been exactly the same.
Globalization, free trade and a dominant world currency (the dollar) which set rates to the lowest were responsible for this mess. The Euro has NOTHING to do with this. NOTHING.
You seem to be in agreement with my argument, not with that from Farage.
Yeah, fair enough with regard to your repeated points.
However, the EU Commission is still "bankers are us", as far as I can see it. And the Irish Governing majority is from the same noodle bar, just a different flavor of noodle.
These all had RE bubbles and collapses because speculation is the inevitable result of the over-financialization disease, that TPTB provided the 'growth' medium for, and now want to maintain to keep the brown paper bags rolling in.
The people can get stuffed.
Huh? How that?
Speculation has existed for ages now. Speculation has never disappeared.
Speculation has been hidden by a phenomenum known as abundance or mass production. Abundance has drowned speculation, pushing it under the rug.
With globalization on its end, therefore mass production losing steam, speculation starts to re emerge.
I think you ought to watch the video again, or just read the above paragraph, he may well be mistaken in blaming low rates in the eurozone as a factor for Ireland's problems but that is certainly not the core of his argument.
And what's the core of his argument then?
I believe the above paragraph sums it up.
And here's a summary of that paragraph :
As a typical anti-european Brit, I consider that Ireland, Greece, Portugal ...etc suffered a boom-bust by joining the Euro. Despite the fact that this is patently untrue (the UK and Iceland suffered the same thing and didn't join the Euro) I hope the Euro experiment will be dead soon because I really hate the Euro and anything European.
How on earth are the British typically anti-european? I take it you mean anti-European Union in which case you're probably correct. Whether it be misguided or not, the majority of British people want Britain to retain its sovereignty. It's a fair and reasonable choice.
Britain has lost its sovereignty long ago, like all other nations.
The loss of sovereignity came from Globalization, free trade, free movement of capital and massive private debts.
It's the system, the corporatist ideology of the Chicago school that caused the loss of sovereignty. With or without the European Union and the Euro the result would have been the same. Governments and politicians have ZERO power left, thay are at the mercy of the international coprporations, all over the OECD.
The European Union was a great idea. But it was taken over by the corporatists and the globalists.
The European Union as a quasi autonomous region producing its own food and manufactured products with freedom to work and live around this region is a great idea. The European Union doesn't exist anymore, it's just a pawn in a globalized world of multinational corporations and financial cartels.
All true but it would not be so easily enforced without the EU, also removing the democratic process out of the reach of the popular vote. Now they can override any conflicting laws in any of those member nations.
The key points for me were:
-The EU is supressing the democratic rights of the Irish people.
-The EU bail out funds are (Or will soon be) not large enough to cope with demad.
The Greed, arrogance and financial incompetance of the European Commision is well documented. Mostly, Europeans tollerate it (are used to it anyway) as being the price of something they, see as ovall, being a benefit to them.
The supression of democratic rights is not something that I believe the average European will tollerate with such patience. In good, or seemingly good times populations are less likely to be angered. But now......things have changed somewhat.
The stripping of democratic and soveriegn rights of countries by the EU. Positions within the EU that are held by people not voted in and can't be voted out either. The passing and enforcing of laws that supercede any soveriegn country's laws. The use of the IMF to enforce their political and economic will against popular vote and democracy.
But look at your response to them: what they are being told as their government is collapsing is that it would be inappropriate for them to have a general election. In fact commissioner Rehn here said they had to agree to a budget first before they are allowed to have a general election.
National sovereignty is not dead. Free humanity will defeat you. Representative governement will not be relenquished for your new world order.
Those aren't his only points...how about his points that Banksters and Politicians are collaborating to control the world populace and eliminate sovereign power, destroying Democracy, and enriching their kleptokratic bretheren.
Couldn't be more plain and simple to understand that. He complained about Van Roumps coming to power, that a non-elected official would be "representing" millions of people in different countries with entirely different politicial systems and economic outlooks and makeups.
Are those arguments not cogent enough for you?
He's a populist that only speak to morons.
It's the same like saying:
THE BOAT IS SINKING! WE SHOULDN'T HAVE COME ABOARD AT THE FIRST PLACE!!
whatever... those who are on board will drown.
I hate political morons that only start yelling when events have happend.
Before there are any problems, you'll never hear them.
When workable solutions are needed, you'll never hear them.
This is just some right wing moron that speaks out to right wing morons.
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The EU is trying to block Ireland from holding general elections. They are being undemocratic. That is his whole point from the beginning and he gas been yelling this since the Lisbon treaty you sir, sudden debt, are the moron .
Farage and the euro skeptics are heroes.
Balls of steel, the Bilderberg group must surely adore him...
Just think of the sum total of elevated torr in the room...
250/120?
We'll be reading about Mr. Farages demise in a week or two. Probably a car wreck, or more likely a suicide with 3 shots to back of the head.
Nigel Farage came close to being killed in a small plane crash a few months ago, but he managed to survive it.
But perhaps « coincidence » nothing more.
Farage should take it out on
Barroso and Trichet, the true
responsibles for the Euro-crash,
Van Rompuy was chosen for
his absence of international credentials
Van Rompuy was chosen because he is the President of the EU .
Herman's election is on of THE MOST UNDEMOCRATIC events that happend IN THIS DECADE!
And I'm from Belgium, so normally I should be proud.
that is nigels whole point dumb nuts
A lot of people don't seem to like Farage (a bit like Alan Grayson I suppose) - I like him, he's said some really good stuff on UK TV.
DavidC
Alan Grayson is a fucking jerk-off Progressive Attack Dog which is why he was de-elected. Putting his name in the same sentence as Farage is an insult to Farage.
I simply don't like any politician.
They all try to say what you want to hear.
POPULISME, nothing more.
If that is true then where are all the other politician speaking up like he is?
All he prays and hopes for is nationalism and violence.
What's wrong with Nationalism, and I certainly believe in justified VIOLENCE..........
Unjustified violence exists in your world, I can see that...
Wrong thing about nationalism is exactly that very often it is used as an excuse for violence against other nations.
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Spot on!
Unfair, I am no supporter of Farage, but all he wants is the UK out of the EU
So do I !!
i dont care if the UK is in EU or not, but to see somebody as Nationalistic as Farag complain about people being left "only with nationalism", it just doesnt sound right.
But why doesn't he want the UK to be part of the EU? That is the question you should be asking. The EU has ignored soveriegn rights, referendums, and has forced countries to join the EU. The EU has the authority to enact and enforce laws over countries which are members. The EU works together with the IMF, World Bank, and other financial and corporate institutions to apply financial and political leverage. Look into the people that hold high positions in the EU, these people are unsavory characters and clearly not interested in the popular vote.
It is Farage complaining about rise of the nationalism that makes me feel a bit suspicious about his sincerity and motives, thats all. But thats the feeling i get with most of the other politicians too.
He is complaining about EU nationalism in which the soveriegn rights of individual countries are trampled on by the EU.
UK has its own government, Prime Minister, Queen etc....I think UK is a great country and i have met plenty of nice UK people. But if you say EU is trampling UK rights, than UK is trampling Wales, Scotland, England, Northern Ireland. Anyway I think that getting rid of government would be a great idea, but at the moment that is utopia. My personal feeling is that Farage is just another self serving politician, but he plays one of the more dangerous cards, and for that i feel that he is one of the " dangerous people" he speaks about.
I am not debating whether the UK is trampling any country's rights. I am pointing out that the whole purpose of the EU and EEC ( UK is a member ) is economic and political control by implementing laws and policies then enforcing them. They use the IMF loans and aid from other sources as leverage.
EEC court- It became a powerful institution as Community law overrides national law
The EEC institutions became those of the EU, however the Court, Parliament and Commission had only limited input in the new pillars, as they worked on a more intergovernmental system than the European Communities.
After the entry into force of the Treaty of Lisbon in 2009 the pillar structure ceased to exist. The European Community, together with its legal personality, was transferred to the newly consolidated European Union which merged in the other two pillars (however Euratom remained distinct).
So we are debating two different things.
I just thought strange that a nationalistic party leader complains about people being left only with nationalism. I would think that is exactly what he hopes for, as than he will get more power, which is every politicians desire.
I am not worried about UK people losing much say, they already dont have almost any left. They can choose Labour or Conservatives, and it is all pretty much the same.
I think you mean ENGLAND, the UK is the United Kingdom, as in Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland. It would be England in your description doing the trampling, not the UK.
Rick64:
Spot on !
I dont know why you got junked for stating the truth so concisely.
Shame on the junker.
Thanks, I don't mind the junkers it means nothing to me.
The EU has brainwashed the entire popuaiton of Europe that the existence of nations leads to nationalism leads to war (and nazism is usually thrown in too). Just rediculous leaps of logic designed to destroy many ancient people. Neikophilia in its purest expression.
The existence of nations leads to checks and balances which is good. If someone like Hitler rises to power, there are other nations to oppose going in a bad direction.
That is typical (classical) liberal mindset: the balance of power is achieved through various players displaying constant vigilance.
How nice and how europeocentric.
This balance of power is warranted in case of players with similar strength.
Europe was the place of powers of similar strengths, with a game among players to try to avoid one to take over.
Which leads to a logical failure. As soon as one slips weak, the balance is over. While it is the very goal the other nations try to achieve.
In other words, liberals confused a resistance to a process as the process itself.
They went stupid with all the colonial process, which introduced much weaker players in the game, easy to roll over, that European powers use to gain an advantage over other European powers, till the culmination in WW2.
At this point, as European powers could no longer afford their game, they chose to join forces to loot their former colonial empire.
The game will restart as soon as the looting act is finished.
I regret being pulled into discussing lowlife like Farage, but to see somebody elected in UK try to play the same scaremongering nationalistic politics as the ones that blew up Yugoslavia is disgusting. And i sincerely wish anybody who likes this kind of politics, would get together, travel to Antartica, and battle it out there, leaving the rest of us to try and get along.
BTW, was he talking about the Eu-owe, or the USA dollar?
Why is the problem the Euro, rather than the lack of haircuts (or home-country bailouts, come to that) for senior bondholders in broke periipheral banks or states?
Exactly!
The entire world is at the mercy of bondholders. Japan started bailing them out two decades ago, then the US and Europe.
This is not specific to the Euro but to all Western currencies
Hey where's Reggie from BustedBlogGoesBoom?
Woops I forgot, all the turkeys get harvested for the holiday. Too bad so sad, bye Reggie.
Right over here, monkeyfucker...
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/merkel-points-serious’-bailout-risk-s...
404. Turkey time ya dumb fuck git in line.
So I'm to blame for you being too stupid to click 'contributors' and use the scroll-wheel?
Reg spends the holidays looking at pictures of himself.
Never liked Farage, he's a bit of a grandstanding fool fronting a single issue party with no chance of ever being taken seriously. But I won't argue with him on this score. Good for him - every dog has his day.
Nigel speech was the best I have ever heard from any euroskeptic. He did not care what that fag Van Rompuy thought he told the truth and he is right there will be nationalism will rear its head all over Europe couple with violence.
Farage at his grandstanding best in this clip. To this day, no-one knows who the fuck van rompuy is::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxESjGmqqw4&feature=related
A low grade Belgian Bank Clerk.
Wow, best speech I've ever heard, and very well delivered. I hope to God they were listening.....
He was nice enough to not pray they be among the first decorating lamp posts.
The brits are having fun not being in the EU these days. Who was that guy who was saying: I don't know who you are, you have all the charisma of a wet dishrag... to some council douche (rompuy?). Anyway he just sat there and took it for a long time. heh heh
off topic - china calling for US to sell some of its gold reserves.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-25/pboc-researcher-calls-on-u-s-to...
I have been anticipating the 'U.S. sell some gold' request from China for some time.
I hope China isn't holding it's collective breath.
if it gets published (on thanksgiving weekend incidentally) you wonder what is going on beyond closed doors.
the chinese are tough negotiators.
China probably knows that the gold doesnt exists and is needling Obama about it.
with a little DPRK snarling and barking to get attention
What gold? Do they know something we don't?
http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/goldsaver/IMAG0115.jpg
Kudos on the fortitude to get a stamp made... was it you mentioning earlier you write this on all bills you handle, or is the idea catching on?
I think this one makes a similar statement:
http://www.coin-rare.com/images/products/detail/12_ounce_silver_bullion_bars.png
Found one at my dealer the other day, going back for it shortly.
Daddy likes... I do love my shinny!
The stamp was actually pretty cheap. The work begins now with stamping every FRN I get my hands on. No, it was not me writing it on the FRNs, but that is where the idea came from. I figure I'll use their own paper to fight them!
The same went on during the Ron Paul campaign. I was just thinking about doing exactly what you have this morning prior to your great pic. Nicely done!
The music at the end is from the scene in The Hunt for Red? October where they are evacuating the submarine. lol How appropriate!
LCH.Clearnet Ltd. said Thursday it has increased the margin required for positions of Irish government bonds to 45% of net positions over the standard margin rate. The move is "in response to the yield differential of 10-year Irish government debt against an AAA benchmark," the firm said in a statement. The change will apply to Irish government bonds cleared through the RepoClear service. The additional margin will be charged on net exposure at close of business on Thursday and will be reflected in a margin call on Friday, the firm said. "Over the last three weeks [the] Irish margin has been cranked up from 3% to 18% to 30%, and today up to 45%," said David Buik, strategist at BGC Partners, in a note.
woohooo!!
hey, does this mean that the Brits want to be bailed out as well ?
I don't think the UK should be allowed to join the European Union,
not after iron maiden Margaret Thatcher wanted the Berlin Wall rebuilt back in 1989.
The Brit's are funny , I think they are just jealous of our German Empire.
What did the Irish ever get from the British ?
What did anyone ever get from the British ?
well ? No wonder everyone wants to join the European Union.
The old Empire is crumbling,don't look back...
REG:
Yeah. All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?!
XERXES:
The aqueduct?
REG:
What?
XERXES:
The aqueduct.
REG:
Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah.
COMMANDO #3:
And the sanitation.
LORETTA:
Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like?
REG:
Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done.
MATTHIAS:
And the roads.
REG:
Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads--
COMMANDO:
Irrigation.
XERXES:
Medicine.
COMMANDOS:
Huh? Heh? Huh...
COMMANDO #2:
Education.
COMMANDOS:
Ohh...
REG:
Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough.
COMMANDO #1:
And the wine.
COMMANDOS:
Oh, yes. Yeah...
FRANCIS:
Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss, Reg, if the Romans left. Huh.
COMMANDO:
Public baths.
LORETTA:
And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, Reg.
FRANCIS:
Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this.
COMMANDOS:
Hehh, heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.
REG:
All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
XERXES:
Brought peace.
REG:
Oh. Peace? Shut up!
Spot on..and one more thing..errrr, oh yeah, Fuck off Kraut
The Brits should all be euthanized. Every last one of them. Fuck your royal wedding dribble.
http://rothschild.com/careers
Fuck 'em.
Nice to see them acknowledge the pigeons.
Our History
"We are like the mechanism of a watch: each part is essential."
The dramatic success of the five founding Rothschild brothers lay in their closely synchronised business. Having set up banking operations in Frankfurt, London, Paris, Vienna and Naples they bound themselves by contract to clear, defined objectives and set about creating the fastest and safest courier network in Europe by which they exchanged encoded market information on a daily basis. It proved to be a winning formula which soon positioned them as the best informed and most internationally effective banking group in the world.
Couriers, pigeon post, the telegraph, the telephone and e-mail: as each new medium of communication came along it was quickly embraced by the Rothschilds to maintain their advantage.
ref; Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson as well as The Baroque Cycle.
No YOU should be euthanized, hateful germ.
Lord Greystoke self destructs out of self-loathing. Go away...
Ok you wanna get nasty, let's go.
This is for you gman:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/nigel-farage-european-parliament-euro-g...
Got verdamte kraut fressor!
This has to be the best post I've seen since I started reading ZH.
I seem to remember a fair amount of the west wouldn't have minded the wall being rebuilt either and that was ten years later, probably still the same today.
You were hard done by, I don't resent you for your bitterness, I feel sorry for you my poor, envious, emasculated, German cousin. Very true, the Brits have had their time in the sun but their empire was strong, vast and quite an achievement. That incohesive Euro-zone disaster you're calling an empire is the closest Germany will know.
America,
Common Law,
A church more focused upon morals, ethics and civic behavior than power, money, property prestige and false redemption,
Powerful, expansive, rich language,
Brilliant humor,
Bad teeth, and
Warm beer.
Beats the shit outa most others.
Big on delusion.
The US common law? When you speak of the US, you mean that country that declared that men were born free as their unalienable condition and maintain slavery? If the same country, well, woooooo, what a definition of common law that is... Out of curiosity, what is specific law in your universe?
A church more focused on moral, ethics and civic behaviour than power, money, property, prestige and false redemption?
Stunning. Priests in the US must be among the richest priest class in the world. They run their churches like businesses, investing in mines and stuff like that accross the world... Probably the most zealous orders of christian missionaries come from the US (Last days' Christians, Mormons, Baptists...)
Wooooo... Just out of curiosity, what is in your universe a church more focused on power, money etc than etc ?
you could'nt even find the radio in Kinch's teapot.
Simply awesome.
Why thank you.
No, you are talking about the Romans....
I was asking about what the English have ever done for you ? (apart from slavery)
"These English do not have any culture. When one visits museums it is Germans, Spanish, Italians, and French you see. The English 'get more' by asking for beer in low bars. You can recognise an Englishman by his football shirt on prominent paunch. His only reading is The Sun," wrote one Libre Belgique reader on Thursday morning
"The English are cretins, whose arrogance is only equalled by their mediocrity of spirit."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/7315555/Ukips-N...
Many Belgians are angered by Mr Farage's description of Mr Van Rompuy, their former premier, as a wet rag.
I nearly pissed myself at that one, Belgians angered, no that's an oxymoron
What have the English ever done....
Starting World War I and World War II, National Socialism, Zyklon B, Belsen, Sachsenhausen, Auschwitz...Yup, none of them. But you...you must be so proud.
Sabremesh that guilt trip does not work with me, my Mother is Jewish,
and yes, I am also proud to be German citizen.
About the start of WWI,it might do you good to read up on your history:
The real cause of WWI was an long standing Trade-War between the British Empire and the German Austrian-Hungarian Empire and their respective colonies and trade-routes to the middle east, both naval and across land.
So I would suggest for you to read up on some basic history like the Baghdad Railway which was built from 1903 to 1940 to connect Berlin with the (then) Ottoman Empire city of Baghdad with a 1,600 kilometres (990 mi) line through modern-day Turkey, Syria, and Iraq.
The Germans gained access to and ownership of oil fields in Iraq, and with a line to the port of Basra would have gained better access to the eastern parts of the German colonial Empire, by-passing the Suez Canal.
Funding and engineering was mainly provided by German Empire banks and companies.
The Baghdad Railway became a source of international disputes during the years immediately preceding World War I and it has been argued that the railway was a leading
cause of the first World War.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Railway
History and economy is never quite as simple-minded in reality and history as some (especially the British) record it and would like the world to believe.
btw:Nigel Farage is a total pome Wanker, what a loser !
So what's your point? Germany was kept in its cage and Europe's sense of humour was saved.
How thankful I am that German is NOT my mother tongue.
A German. A German with a large chip on his shoulder. Why I never. Farage wasn't insulting Germany you cretin, he was attacking the EU. That is not Europe and European people, that is the EUROPEAN UNION. Yet for some reason your first post on this thread is an attack against Britain.
iI would've though a German would know the dangers of xenophobia.
this is to AI89:
fuck off you xenophobic POME fuck-wit ,
and take that fascist Nigel Farage scum-bag home with you !
what planet are you Brits living on anyway ? who the fuck do you think you are ?
You British are just not getting over the fact that the old British empire is kaput and your colonies along with the income from pome slave trading has all come to an end.
Here is something you might want to learn,to get you up to date with the Real World:
The EU was formed in 1993.
The European Union (EU) is an economic and political union of 27 member states which are located primarily in Europe. Committed to regional integration, the EU was established by the Treaty of Maastricht in 1993 upon the foundations of the European Communities.
With over 500 million citizens, the EU generated an estimated 28% share
(US$ 16.5 trillion) of the nominal and about 21% (US$14.8 trillion)
of the PPP gross world product in 2009.
Now take this and shove it up your British AI89 sideways !
Kinda like you already. Der Prozess has begun and that is what like about Germans. They are silent but they do analyze and react eventually. Let the Anglo foxes BARK! But they know very well there is a Wolf, continental German Wolf, leader of the pack and foxes usually know to stay away with that one but it seems too many foxes got too close...
I always find it interesting when people with GUTS emerge, then the pussies without guts all join and attack. Truth always goes thru three phases. Adamant opposition, then ridicule, then it is accepted as self evident.
Wow. I want that guy for President. He was born here - in Hawaii.
he ran against Gordon Brown, on election day his plane [got] crashed, luckily he survived. that man along with the entire UKIP are absolute marvels.
Does anybody else find it strange that most, if not all of these "globalists' are also fervent supporters of terrorist Israel?
Hang all traitors!
Why is the US Congress so supportive of terrorist Israel? Is their support truly representative of their constituents wishes?
If not who do they really represent?
And the US Congress supports the will of the citizens?
Last electon cycle.
QED
The USA has long since been compromised. Now it is nothing more than a Zionist occupied territory.
Correct you are, in spite of the Hasbara "junkers". They are included in the traitors I referred to. They live in other, supposedly sovereign nations always working to undermine their host nation for Israel's benefit, but the world is catching on.
And it's not just the US, check out the rats Sarkozy and Brown, for example....they just love terrorist Israel at the expense of the citizens they claim to represent.
Spread the word, Israel-first traitors subvert their host nations.
never knew that Soros was an "Israel-first" type. Thanks for the update. - Ned
So true. So sad. But its not the first time nor the first country to be raped thus. I am turning anti jewish because of it. Because i cant tell a zionist from a jew. Are they the ones with the inadequate hats?
Never thought i would become a racist, but to be honest i see the inclination. And just cause.
You're exactly the kind of dumbass the Nazis relied on when they spun propaganda. Let me know how warm the welcome is over at Stormfront.
At least you know that there were four Israeli supporters who visited this page. :)
Hanging is a bit barbaric - just hit them where it hurts the most, in the pocket, and never do business with people who support Israel. Call it what you like, but I call it ethical trading. Just please don't associate Zionists with decent Jewish folks, many of whom are as horrified by the Israelis as we all are.
on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 16:28
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1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies, not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbours here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli President Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001.
2. "Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset [Israeli Parliament] quoted by Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982.
3. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel . We, the Jewish people, control America , and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.(recorded)
4. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).
5. "We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, testifying before the U.S. Senate).
6. "You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America . In America you can criticize God, but you can't criticize Israel ." Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache 2009
I burst out laughing at this comment! :) If it doesn't always come back to the Jews? Oh, the ignorance within our society of not being able to look at our ugly greed in the face and recognize it as our own.
I don't mind if its granstanding or not as long as its factual. Truth has a way of cutting right thru the B.S..
"you think this is abuse you cocksucker? you can't take this, how can you take the abuse you get on a sit!?"
let me get your attention for a moment, as youre talking about, what, you're talking about, bitching about that sale you shot? you know what it takes to sell fascism? it takes brass balls to sell fascism. I'm here from downtown, I'm here from Ben and Barry, and I'm here on a mission of mercy! put! that, money down! money is for closers. you think im fucking w/ you? I am not fucking with you.
how about a site based on gg gross?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-AXTx4PcKI
you close! or you hit the bricks! oh yeah, I used to be a salesman, it's a tough racket...
Great clip, however in the real world we have this, because of that (Baldwin's character)...
http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-hudson-the-monster-2010-10
mike hudson and bill black at umkc are my heroes, cal johnson just died on sunday another one of my heroes. I interviwed at ameriquest, went in there feeling my oats, talking about hard sell vs soft sell and how I was good at it, the chic , vp, looked at me kinda of wired I thought at the time , I retrospectively saw her turn off, what she wanted was not ricky roma, it was fucking moss or levine all day. needless to say I did not get called back. I don't regret it.
You can add Harry Markopolos to that hero list...True patriotic American's indeed!!
I am a producer in the manufacturing business and I must say Baldwin is exactly right. Footwork always produces results. Whining and complaining also produces results only in reverse. :)
agreed !
edit: Chalmers Johnson, may he rest well.
Farage used to be a commodities broker...he knows his gold and silver...
AMEN !
EU is becoming a totalitarian regime, it's using economic policy just like the IMF did when it called for austerity and proceeded to decimate receipient's economies. With Ireland the hope is bring the government down and replace it with a more friendly puppet, who will bring the CTax in line with EU norms, while at the same time being docile and happy to receive EU loans...bankers will re-issue debt to europe from Frankfurt and Paris.
I may, or may not, like UKIP but independance from the EU is a choice for self-determination and that is the only party that takes that platform.
If the brits dont like the EU, they can leave. No one will cry for them.
might as well for all i & p me thinks..
Sometimes i sip on sodapop and think that bankers are in charge of it all and control the economy more than we think
+10000
This double whammy of austerity,job precariousness and inflation is squeezing us here.
I know there is no easy way out,but the pain must be taken first by those who led us to this point (=bankers), not by the whole population.
I cannot imagine a world where the euro and the european fin. system are preserved without a major restructuring or Germany hiring Bernake to head ECB.
I don't think you want BB too be your saviour. Look how he's helped these people here...
http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/11/22/elderly-americans-increasingly-declaring-bankruptcy-in-retiremen/
Raising CC interest rates to over 30% surley didn't help...IMO
I just LOVE this man -- and I don't even KNOW him!
This should be the absolute winner at The Cannes International Film Festival !!!!!
Fantastic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1waGanUNt0&feature=related
Farage v Brown.
I like how these pathetic idiotic incompetent idiots can only smile like idiots as their horrible records are exposed.
this guy is GOD
I'm not sure if I called politicians idiots enough. With some exception of course, I like Ron Paul over in the States. Shame Palin et all have hijacked what previously was a Libertarian movement (if I'm right).