No End In Sight To Equity Outflows As Stock Boycott Persists Despite Largest Bond Outflow Since Lehman Failure

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Wed, 12/22/2010 - 17:50 | 824876 tmosley
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Obviously people are getting cash to spend on Christmas!  This is bullish!


Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:11 | 824934 Arius
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or they are running out of cash after many months of unemployment...

these people do not live in the real world; for them if you sell smt got to buy smt about when you need the money to survive???

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 23:10 | 825475 Rusty Shorts
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 - "we're all in this together"

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 00:26 | 825559 Lord Koos
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Thousands (maybe millions) of Americans are cashing in their retirement accounts early, just to pay bills.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 17:50 | 824879 unwashedmass
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bring on the dancing girls! boo yah! call jim cramer! we need the bagholders now bad....

maybe the government can mandate that all retail IRA holders invest their cash now! No holding cash! They have to buy and let JPM and GS rape them....

they own Congress, so let's see some action corraling the peasants after the first!

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:20 | 824929 dwdollar
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Looks like it's time to implement plan U.S.S.R. or Ultimate Social Security Returns.  It's a new tax of 25% on top of what you already pay and will be invested on your behalf via JPM or GS.  It's called "Ultimate" because this plan has 0% change of failure.  It's called "Returns" because this time you'll be getting it back, unlike the old Social Security program.  We promise.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:22 | 824960 Dr. No
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Payable in a new IRA currency.  To be accepted at approved stores.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 21:41 | 825388 StychoKiller
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Saint Peter don't call me, 'cause I cain't go...I owe my soul to the Govt store!

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 08:37 | 825802 bonddude
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-Tennessee Ernie Ford

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 17:50 | 824881 parrumph
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The more that individuals take money out of the market, the higher it will be pushed.  Dow 36,000 if there are no investors left!

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 22:06 | 825419 pemdas
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How can there be no investors left, when they pulled a cumulative $100 billion out of stock funds this year?  

Maybe the dumb money (mutual funds) will start coming back when the market is 1,000 points higher.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 17:53 | 824888 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Bernake put.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:09 | 824927 mynhair
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it where the sun don't shine.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:31 | 824973 AccreditedEYE
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he sure did, but I gotta say that I'm getting a warm feeling knowing every Wall St. strategist thinks it's to the moon next year.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 01:44 | 825624 Problem Is
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Bernake put...

      your BALD head...

             where the sun don't shine.


That's better...

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 17:54 | 824891 Panafrican Funk...
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"Pimco Total Return this month said it is expanding its policy to allow investments in equity-linked securities for the first time since 2003."

Bad news.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 17:53 | 824894 random shots
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We know how this works (some of us longer than others) goes up high enough that all the bond chasers will kick themselves for not being in equities. Stupid peasents rush back into stocks right at the top as the "house" sells into the panic buying. Market goes down and the cycle continues.

You think this is all new? That it has happen over the last 5-10 years? It is not. Just more people becoming aware. And just like gambling, people will come back even though they know the odds are against them!

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 20:36 | 825272 Caviar Emptor
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Yup. There was selling into strength each day this week. Sign o smart money tiptoeing toward the exit

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 20:40 | 825275 merehuman
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gambling is a lot more fun and more honest.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 17:55 | 824896 ebworthen
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CNBC was pumping equities today, inbetween noting that many stocks, and the indices, were at two year highs, then having more pump-monkeys on talking about buying financials. 


Wed, 12/22/2010 - 17:54 | 824897 Croesus
Wed, 12/22/2010 - 19:34 | 825145 Croesus
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Alrighty, who junked that? :o)

It's a guy making fun of Chris Crocker, you know the "Leave Britney alone, NOW" guy, and has to do with crash JPM - Buy Silver.

It was wrong to junk that post.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 23:23 | 825493 A_MacLaren
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I wasn't aware that Jamie Demon and Blythe disAsters had identities on ZH to rate posts as Junk...

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 02:03 | 825654 Problem Is
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Say... Isn't that MacIntyre's tartan...

You know one of those Clan Chattan rowdies...


Thu, 12/23/2010 - 04:17 | 825738 ebworthen
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I enjoyed it, thanks.

Jamie Dimon and Banksters and Wall Street puds are worshipped like Brittany Spiers; the worshippers just think of themselves as better than everyone else and "doing God's work".



Thu, 12/23/2010 - 08:41 | 825807 bonddude
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Is that Johnny or Edgar Winter ?

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 17:58 | 824904 winks
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What will outflows be if we ever have a "down" week?

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:02 | 824917 spongeBOB
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Do you recall those days a couple of years ago with "sell Imbalance" at the close?

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 00:42 | 825573 scatterbrains
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outflows ? I thought they been flowed allready? I keep thinking the shadow market is probably trading aaple at 43.50 but for appearances the ppt has a few hft bots making it appear to be trading at 325.50  for the dumb retail guys like me sitting at the kitchen table with the laptop.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 17:59 | 824907 AUD
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nobody, save for a few hedge funds, gives a rats ass about manipulated stocks prices anymore.

Yet they seem to give a rats ass about manipulated bonds. Central banks don't buy alot of stocks, they prefer bonds, especially government paper.

Who's the chump?

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 17:59 | 824910 spongeBOB
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Is there any data on what goes into "inverse" ETFs as well ?

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:02 | 824919 RobotTrader
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Bed, Bath, and Beyond gapping up $3.00 to a fresh, new, world record high after hours.

Wow, I guess that the "Endgame for the Financial System", the "Total Collapse of the Global Economy", and the "Systemic Meltdown of The Consumer" has been delayed for a few years....


Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:12 | 824928 Cheesy Bastard
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Food stamp usage gapping up to 1 in 7 Americans, a fresh,new world record high.  Wow, I guess that the "Summer of recovery" and the "Economic santa claus rally" has been delayed for a few years...


Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:20 | 824951 RobotTrader
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Last I heard, food stamps is now the biggest freebie fraud game being played here in Los Angeles.

Virtually anybody can get food stamps if you fill out the right forms.

And people can buy anything with them:  Starbucks coffee, sheets and pillowcases at BBBY, Lululemon workout outfits, even yoga classes....

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:27 | 824964 Cheesy Bastard
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Last I heard, Governator Arnold fixed all that.  Or was that the welfare credit cards he fixed?

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:36 | 824983 gerd
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let me get this straight- you recognize fraud at the lowest

strata of society, but Fraud as a business model for TBTFs escapes you?!

Come on Man!

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 19:16 | 825085 RunningMan
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Robo - I enjoy your bullish contrariness, but am a little confused as to how you reconcile a market that is headed up with the dismal facts facing this country. Unemployment stubbornly high, and the overall sales environment much more challenging. Results only look good relative to a lousy prior year. Maybe you don't try to reconcile, but still... things are tough, and it is hard to see how that can be good for the country, let alone stock valuations in the near term.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 20:43 | 825282 Caviar Emptor
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All good things must come to an end. The ice gets mighty thin way out here. The market i just a 'Funny Money Gauge'. If the spigot gets turned down even a bit, we're going lower. 

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 20:47 | 825290 merehuman
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you are getting uglier to me as the days go by Robocreep. Dont you sense the underlying anger of the public?

You wont be needing the blindfold since your vision is already narrow.

And surely we will offer you a last cigarette.

Feel me, i am the common man.

Thu, 12/23/2010 - 04:14 | 825734 capitallosses
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I'll be cruising Melrose in my 997 TT tomorrow. Where do I get dem food stamps? Time for a small refund of what I've already for!

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:10 | 824932 Internet Tough Guy
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Yes, BBBY is the economy; well played. Now get back on the LA city bus.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:18 | 824947 spongeBOB
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BBBY who's biggest competitor went BK ? Best Buy is more of an indicator of today's consumer and they're not sharing the same enthusiasm for the "Consumer".

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 20:17 | 825240 El Hosel
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  Circuit City went belly up, one of BBY main competitors, that should help them but apparently they are are not in the club... Its all smoke and mirrors, the fucking banks are insolvent and  they lead the rallys.

Home builders, Banks,  and Retailers rallied  because that was the "play of the day" put in by the "deciders". The Bernank and the TBTF Banks blasted those sectors with their Ol Buddy Hank Paulson's Digital Bazooka. Nothing new.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:19 | 824936 spongeBOB
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edit: dupe

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:20 | 824950 gwar5
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Retail goes up this time of year for Christmas. BBBY will be back down before 1QTR whisper #'s are out

My prediction for May 2011 -- oil/gas prices rise --- DIG up big by March.  You heard it here first. 

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 20:02 | 825211 HarryWanger
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Thanks for the chart. I pointed this out on another thread as well. As with my company we are seeing another, albeit much larger, example of how strong the consumer is.

Also, as I mentioned on the other thread regarding my company's name and location, I do not want to list it here as it is a small business. However, if Tyler wants to verify my information, I will gladly tell him the name and website on the condition it is not listed here. At least that way, you will know from him/her/them that I am legitimate.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 20:46 | 825289 Caviar Emptor
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You're trying to say: 'micro = macro' . If I'm OK, then you must be OK. 

Not the real world, Harry. The pie is shrinking fast. That doesn't mean there aren't still some crumbs to be had

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 21:55 | 825402 The Profit Prophet
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Wow...this is first ZH post.

Harry, you're a douche!  There is likely not a single thing that you have posted on ZH that is "legitimate".  You probably don't even have a Harry more than likely have a Bald Pussy! 

T.E.I.N. everyone. 

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 23:43 | 825523 Atomizer
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HarryWanker.. Will Smooth - Ask Me If I Care



Wed, 12/22/2010 - 20:47 | 825295 Ham Wallet
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Good smelling soaps & other assorted crap doing well during Christmas?  Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer invested in pumpkins, noteing that they peak during Halloween.  Thanks for the insight *eyeroll*

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