Nomura Predicts $220 Oil If Just Libya, Algeria Cut Output

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Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:34 | 988190 BeerGoggles
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The guy is full of shit. Libya only produce 3% of world's oil. That results in a 100+% increase in oil price does it?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:38 | 988200 curbyourrisk
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This from a bank that has seen the true effects of Zero Interest Rates.  This from a bank that was zombified a generation ago.  This from a bank who dwells inside a country with a debt/gdp ratio that reaches the fucking sky.

 

SHUT UP you fuckin jackwagon.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:41 | 988209 papaswamp
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Look at it in terms of light sweet crude...not total oil.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:46 | 988236 arkady
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Good point.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:51 | 988256 jus_lite_reading
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You're missing the point. It's hidden in plain sight...

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:03 | 988314 financeguru500
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In an unrelated note, Shanghai Scooter company predicts record scooter sales for the remaining part of 2011.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:52 | 988262 samsara
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Yes, the mechanics works like that.  You take out that much and the effects are NOT linear.    You will see it is a MULTILPLE of it.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:31 | 988454 markmotive
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Oil is priced on marginal supply and demand. I think nat gas in California provides a good example of what can happen to prices when a small amount of supply is cut off.

So yes, a small decline in supply can cause big price increases.

Looks like the 'real' inflation rate of 10% may be something we talk fondly of in the future:

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2011/02/22/real-inflation-near-10/

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:41 | 988500 Zero Debt
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Nonlinearity

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:35 | 988195 papaswamp
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Saudis would have to ramp up production...something they don't want to do since their reserves are far lower than previously stated. This could get real interesting real quick. 

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:40 | 988207 samsara
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"something they don't want to do "

shouldn't that be

Something they CAN'T do

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:45 | 988235 papaswamp
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They could be at that point...if they are the King had better rethink his return to the kingdom.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:36 | 988197 Rusty Shorts
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No worries, Spindletop is re-filling with Abiotic oil as I type. Yes, that's right, Gas will once again be .29 cents a gallon.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:39 | 988202 samsara
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+1000,  

I almost sneezed up my coffee. 

And,  don't forget that perennial favorite.

"The Bakken will save us,  Billions of barrels I tell ya"

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:45 | 988230 unwashedmass
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i'm not excited. Ben will rev up the helicopters.....and this time, he might, now don't get your hopes up,

he might give $250 to each peasant "to help with the gas price"....

whoa.......

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:54 | 988270 jus_lite_reading
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Dr. Deficit aka Kamikazi Ben is prepping his own escape heli right now... "Women and bankers first. Children and men will have to stay behind."

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:45 | 988232 unwashedmass
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i'm not excited. Ben will rev up the helicopters.....and this time, he might, now don't get your hopes up,

he might give $250 to each peasant "to help with the gas price"....

whoa.......

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:49 | 988248 Rusty Shorts
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Just wait till Oil is once again percolating up out of the ground in Pennsylvania, we will be burning the stuff off just to get rid of it, happy days are just around the corner !!

 

Oh yeah, there's a godzillion barrels of Oil under the Rocky Mountains ;-)

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:35 | 988733 dark pools of soros
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exactly - in fact, let's just start moving cities underground closer to the oil! Can't let Atlantis keep their advantage forever

or better yet, do we really need the first few layers of the Earth's crust??  it is really getting in the way of our margins

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:02 | 988594 Mad Max
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PERFECT comments, Rusty and samsara.

Don't forget ethanol (from corn made using diesel) and solar PV while you're at it...

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 13:51 | 989200 Bicycle Repairman
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Just jam a dinosaur into Spindletop, and you'll get your .29 cent a gallon gas.  Use a cheap dinosaur.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 13:52 | 989201 Saxxon
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+1 Rusty; someone doesn't know their history, doesn't get the joke or just doesn't like you. 

 

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:37 | 988198 Cleanclog
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Saudi would be hard to topple, especially now that King Abdullah has returned and promises $400 Billion for unemployed and "social programs".  That's a lot of moolah per person in SA.  And less gold gilding for palaces (unless that is considered a social program) - so gold could trade down.

Nah, social programs could be buying gold for the minions.  /sarc off

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:41 | 988216 Critical Path
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There goes 2011's fake GDP! Damn...

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:56 | 988278 jus_lite_reading
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You mean we won't get a 4.5% GDP growth this year? Ok, then in 2012 for SURE! (Dr. Deficit promises by December 21st 2012!) LMAO

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:42 | 988220 fragrantdingleberry
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The real concern is not high energy prices but solar flares.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn10189-solar-flares-will-disrupt-gps-in-2011.html

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:51 | 988263 Oh regional Indian
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Cool handle FD.

And why would any sane person junk you.

Spot on. 

ORI

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:19 | 988676 fragrantdingleberry
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ORI: There are a lot of insane people on this site and I'm not sure about my own state of mind.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:49 | 988249 Oh regional Indian
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200 dollar oil is coming for a whole host of reasons, well known to everyone here.

The question is, are we talking nominal or fur realz dollears.

In realz, it might be $400 a bbl too. Before long.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/ihumor-for-un-funny-days/

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:58 | 988289 jus_lite_reading
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The global economy can't handle $150 oil right now; nevermind $200 or $400. ORI, you're really talking about a global war at $200... oh, yeah; I'm predicting that as well.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:38 | 988757 dark pools of soros
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yes global war..  we totally need to kill more young people to make every country look like Japan's demographics..   can we instead have a Senior War? only 60 years and over are allowed to fight?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 14:35 | 989271 A Texan
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"can we instead have a Senior War? only 60 years and over are allowed to fight?"

 

Yes, think of the savings when the meals are all Early Bird Specials!  Also, no need for night optics, they'll all be asleep by 8 PM.

 

Seriously, you wouldn't want to mess with some of the seniors I know - a bunch of them served in Korea and VN, and they can still put out a rat's eye with a bullet at 200 yards.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:51 | 988251 kaiten
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Stagflation, bitchezz!

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:55 | 988254 malikai
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Everybody look the other way because Brent is flirting with breaking $110 right now.

EDIT: Oh, nevermind. Maybe we'll dip back to $110 tomorrow.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:51 | 988257 stoneman sacked
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$220 Oil is an apocalyptic scenario. Unless Uncle Ben prints another trillion it wont happen

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:53 | 988269 HedgeFundLIVE
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thoughts on DBO, an oil ETF that has a low correlation to an unpredictable mkt = good for hedging purposes:

http://www.hedgefundlive.com/blog/ways-to-hedge-a-market-that-depends-on-the-actions-of-crazy-people

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 16:39 | 997824 Panafrican Funk...
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If you're trying to hedge crazy, and let's be honest, the entire fucking thing is crazy, why not 50/50 longs in EDV & GLD?  +41% NAV gain 2008 - 2010 playing this pair equal weight, correlation is almost 100% inverse.  Pocket the div/cap yield from EDV with GLD as your CYA if the EDV takes a shit (likely scenario, but who the hell really knows?)

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:10 | 988349 Thunder Dome
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DING DONG GET LONG!

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:10 | 988351 CrashisOptimistic
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So annoying.  They do not have a FUCKING CLUE what the spare capacity is of ANY of these countries.  They take the country's declarartion of such as gospel.

There is NO PROOF whatsoever KSA can pump a drop more than they pump RIGHT NOW.

How's that $200 estimate look if they are flat out?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:14 | 988366 samsara
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A humorous look into our possible future.  Prophetic little article by Chip a few years ago. 

Make sure to take a couple of minutes and read it.

VERY funny.  See how it could unfold...

i'm including just a snippet.

Sixty Days, Next Year

by C. Haynes

You'll have to excuse me, but I don't usually keep a diary. These events began before I understood what was happening, and where it was all headed. It was only later, after it was all going on, that I thought that maybe I should be keeping some sort of record--as if no one else was. We live in The Information Age, or did. Now it's just The Dim Ages. Welcome to my world.

June 14
It all started (for me) with just a small item on an Internet news page, "Trouble in the Kingdom". I thought they were talking about Disney World (the Magic Kingdom) so I clicked on it. Turns out they were talking about "the repercussions of curtailed social services in Saudi Arabia". (Insert a big yawning noise here.) So their kids don't get free day care? Big whoop. I scanned the article for any mention of M. Mouse and then went on with my life. My mistake. No biggie. Really.

June 15
Yesterday's headlines are still today's news? I guess those folks in the sand are really upset about something--it was in all the papers today. Sounds like the Saudi government is in for a tough time trying to rein in a runaway budget--and the locals don't like it one bit. Now their capital (Riyadh?) is a mess with people getting ugly in the streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no more subsidized housing. Deal with it, people. Get a job.

June 16
I saw the news today, oh boy. Three Saudi cities are up in flames, people with big guns are going nuts, and everyone that can find a plane is leaving that country in one big hurry. It's like Saigon in a sand box. (Not that I actually remember Saigon.) Local news guys are talking about what it means to us--and our oil. Maybe I'd better go fill up the car before everyone else does. I hate being stuck in long lines.

<SNIP>

 http://www.newcolonist.com/dim_ages.html

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:17 | 988394 financeguru500
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+1000.

Thank you so much for linking this. I had read this story back in 2007 and recently I was thinking of it but couldn't remember what it was called or how to find it. This could be the perfect book if the author decided to write a bit more and make it a couple hundred pages.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:41 | 988769 dark pools of soros
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time for another War of the Worlds moment??  via Twitter?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:16 | 988386 MiddleMeThis
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It was on here that I read US oil supplies are at their highest ever!  So, pardon me for saying, but what the hell does supply and demand have to do with the price of oil?  It's just another bullshit way for Wallstreet to make more money. MSM will slather the masses with these stories of unrest and halted oil production just so the powers that be can raise oil prices and have the working class believe that there is no other choice.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:00 | 988580 CrashisOptimistic
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US oil supplies are not at their highest ever.

That point in time would have been about 1895.

 

 

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:04 | 988605 Mad Max
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"Highest oil supplies ever" here in the US might mean that we have 5 days of refined products in storage instead of the usual 3 or so.  The US oil industry (and oil industries in many other countries) is the epitome of just-in-time delivery.  Not that it would be very practical to store a couple months' worth of production at the rates that we consume.  So, got any plans for your day next Tuesday?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:27 | 990372 MiddleMeThis
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Yes, on Tuesday I will be trading in my SUV for a skateboard!  :-)

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:19 | 988402 Tortfeasor
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This thread just metioned on radio by Glenn Beck.  Does that mean ZH has gone mainstream, or has GB?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:22 | 988688 fragrantdingleberry
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GB mainstream? The dude is straight out of The Book of Revelation.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:23 | 988415 alphaSheikh
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Party in the GCC this weekend... We are inviting Creedence Clearwater Revival to sing "Have you ever seen the Rain?"....  cuz it's gonna rain Ben Bernanke paper for a long time to come.

$220 here we come !

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:02 | 988584 CrashisOptimistic
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Why would you think so?  He can't print oil.

His primary mandate is inflation.  If oil drives it up by increasing the costs of landlords, forcing them to raise rents, then he would tighten, not loosen.

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