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Non Farm Payrolls Come At -226K After Census (411K), Temporary (31K), And Birth-Death Adjustment (215K)

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So much for that 700,000 expectation. At 431k, less 411k census, and 31k from temporary help services, it sure doesn't look good even without the 215k birth-death adjustment which only conspiracy theorists look at according to Mr. Liesman. 431k minus 411k minus 31k minus 215k = -226k. Nuf said. In other news, those unemployed longer than 27 weeks hits a new record at 46%. Nothing conspiratorial about that number.

From the report:

Nonfarm payroll employment increased by 431,000 in May, reflecting  the addition of 411,000 temporary workers for Census 2010. Total private employment showed little change over the month (+41,000), following increases in March and April. In May, manufacturing, temporary help services, and mining added jobs, while employment in con-
struction declined. (See table B-1.)

Manufacturing employment increased by 29,000 over the month. Factory employment has risen by 126,000 over the past 5 months. Within manufacturing, both fabricated metals and machinery added jobs in May.

Temporary help services added 31,000 jobs over the month; employment in the industry has risen by 362,000 since September 2009.

Employment in mining continued to increase in May, with a gain of 10,000. Support activities for mining accounted for 8,000 of the over-the-month increase. Since October 2009, mining employment has expanded by 50,000.

In May, the average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls increased by 0.1 hour to 34.2 hours. The manufacturing workweek for all employees increased by 0.3 hour to 40.5 hours. The average workweek for production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls increased by 0.1 hour to 33.5 hours over the month. (See tables B-2 and B-7.)

 

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Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:43 | 394256 Trichy
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LiesMan just swallowed his false teeth.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:44 | 394267 Citizen of an I...
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You can't have Liesman without lies.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:43 | 394257 MyFriendMises
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Obama might have made his biggest political blunder by touting the strong job numbers this week.  He is the primary reason if their is a collapse.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:45 | 394271 E pluribus unum
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At least he has a job...but it's looking more and more temporay every day.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:11 | 394332 ISEEIT
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My oldest son and his girlfriend have been 'employed' by a temp agency for six weeks. He has actually worked, been paid, for less than forty hours during that time despite having shown up at the agency every weekday during the six week period. I wonder how many such 'jobs' are being counted?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:45 | 394274 Duuude
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He's toast, frightening how incompetent this admin. is.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:47 | 394866 RockyRacoon
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Since we are throwing around links and graphs and stuff -- check out the Chart of the Day:

http://www.chartoftheday.com/20100604.htm?T

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 12:07 | 394917 Cognitive Dissonance
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Now that's an ugly baby.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 12:28 | 394992 MyFriendMises
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Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:48 | 394288 Cursive
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Overpromise and underdeliver.  FAIL.  He and Biden are just sound bite dummies.  There is no "modesty" switch in their brains.  He was desperate, somebody told him in a hallway the numbers looked "good" and he ran with it.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:04 | 394480 Brett in Manhattan
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As someone who was willing to give Obama a chance, I get a vibe from him that he thinks the President's job is to be a motivational speaker. He doesn't seem to care for the managerial part.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:47 | 394614 Village Idiot
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+1

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:59 | 394663 Rich V
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obama - the community organizer in chief!

Based on his previous resume what did anyone expect?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:36 | 394810 ColonelCooper
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Then the arrogant SOB has the stones to stand up this morning and say that Even if you subtract census hiring, the number is still positive and shows signs of recovery.

The only sad part is that 40% of Americans will believe it.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:36 | 394424 knukles
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My thoughts similarly, the Tipping Point.  With the "A Thousand Brilliant Jobs Report" in conjunction with the "I am in Charge." posturing over the GoM leak, credibility is Decimated.  His Own Kind shall Begin Feasting upon the (Not Symbolic) Body of the Messiah.     

Further, time enough has passed, the Administration, Indeed, All of Washington Now Owns the Game, Lock, Stock and Barrel. 

The Employment Report is Prima Facie Evidence that the Neo-Keynsian, Tax and Spend Model indeed exhibits a Negative Multiplier Effect.  Game Over.  

Forget not, Further Ruminations regarding the merits and demerits attached to the Color of the Jersey Donned by any Kabuki Cheering Section of the Only Party in Power are exactly the Diversion Needed for Further Cover of Additional "Altruistic" Agendas in order to Prolong the Looting.   Never Let a Good Crisis Go To Waste - the Mantra, the Movie.

Narcissists, Community Organizers or Visionaries, it Matters Not, for Effective Release from the Maws of Social, Political and Economic Tyranny are Desperately Necessitated.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:19 | 394751 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Obama: Let Them Eat Hope.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:43 | 394258 Handle with care
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Holy Crap!

Anyone deny double dip now?

 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:47 | 394279 snowball777
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Leo, the disciple of Ra.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:20 | 394373 whatsinaname
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Meanwhile headline on CNN - Jobs in May jump !!

 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:41 | 394591 RichardP
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"Jobs in - may jump!!"

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 12:13 | 394945 hound dog vigilante
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Seriously... where is Leo K. ?

I was so looking forward to his re-cap of 'improving fundamentals' this morning...

He must be dialed into the CNBC/MSM/White House conference call... subject: revised economic talking points, or how to ignore a depression.

 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:47 | 394281 Cognitive Dissonance
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Never underestimate the capacity for humans to deny everything, including our own existence.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:50 | 394293 UGrev
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Does that mean I can deny my existence and stop paying taxes? 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:52 | 394303 MyFriendMises
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you might not have to since the Govt might have a problem when they stop paying the salaries of the people at the IRS.  Or more likely make their salaries worthless through QE.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:10 | 394326 SWRichmond
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No, that will just make them mean.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:25 | 394448 Crab Cake
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I think you have that backwards CD.  I believe humans are denying their in-existence. Appearance Emptiness.  There is no solid thing to find, just evershifting causality. When one looks for one's self, there is no self to find, if one looks diligently.  The false ego, satan by any other name, is the root of evil, and the need for more and more and more to substantiate the inexistent.

It is not Kant's, "I think therefore I am."

It is Exodus's, "I am that I am."

There is nothing but conciousness, and conciousness is all that passes through it without limitation or impediment; everything and nothing in and of itself.  The paradox of being.

What is this existence you speak of?

Row, row, row your boat, gently down the stream, merrily, merrily,merrily, life is but a dream.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:20 | 394757 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Oh snap. Queensryche was correct all along.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:22 | 394767 Bolweevil
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don't forget Popeye, "Iyam what Iyam!" ;)

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:25 | 394774 Cognitive Dissonance
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CC

I like the row boat analogy. :>)

In my defense, I was trying to briefly outline the case for extreme denial, not be factually correct about the dream like nature of our reality.

But I appreciate the fact that you quite obviously have given a great deal of thought to this subject and you're hot on the trial of the big picture. You will enjoy the rest of my series as I drive towards this point.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 12:05 | 394908 Crab Cake
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No defense necessary, it's just discourse.

CD

I hope I'm hot on the trail of true evolution, enlightenment, and pulling the plank from my own eye.  Though I stumble on the rocks regularly and routinely, may I be foregiven and have the strength to forgive myself.  Only when this is achieved will I be able to truly help the masses who are suffering in their ignorance, as I have with mine and still do.

May the light fill me.  May I shine like a beacon in the night, that my words might soothe, and that my hands might heal.  May that I find my place in the palace of heaven here on earth within myself, and bear its burden in this world upon my shoulders; a pillar of light to hold up the righteous hall.  May the narrow path be clear.  May the seeker find. May the door be opened.

I always enjoy your posts CD, and I do look forward to them.  Shine the light brother, nothing can stand before it.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:41 | 394832 old_turk
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"It is not Kant's, "I think therefore I am."

You are correct it isn't Kant, it's Descartes.

 

Cogito ergo sum.

 

Although 'ergo sum, cogito' does have a certain je ne suis qoui about it.  :-)

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:49 | 394883 RockyRacoon
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Descartes is sitting at the bar at closing time.

Bartender asks him if he wants one for the road.

Descartes says, "I think not."

Then he disappeared.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 12:10 | 394933 Cognitive Dissonance
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LOL Brilliant! :>)

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 12:11 | 394904 Crab Cake
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Oops on Descartes - Kant.  What can I say?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 16:27 | 395783 RockyRacoon
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No biggie.  Here's one from the best of Monty Python:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQycQ8DABvc&feature=related

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 19:14 | 396131 plongka10
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+2010

I sang that rhyme to all my kids. So true

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:35 | 394357 Shocker
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Nah, I think its pretty clear were we are heading. The problem this time is they tried to spin the numbers, and it just looked awful. Normally they can do it, and everyone is amazed. The temporary Census Workers really shouldn't even of been counted, they are fake jobs. And if you read the article from above, by the time you make all the adjustments to Birth-Death, Temp... It works out to be nothing. The lies amaze me, hopefully by now no one believes them.

http://www.dailyjobcuts.com

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:00 | 394668 Rusty_Shackleford
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Also keep in mind the "Census Worker" job numbers are being goosed (maybe by a factor of 2-4X).

 

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/two_more_census_workers_blow_the_O...

http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/06/01/census-workers-blow-whistle-...

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:46 | 394860 Trichy
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Bob Januah(?) has raised his global QE target to 10-15 TRUSD! Don't give up Benny your doing a great job!

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:44 | 394259 What_Me_Worry
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But the unemployment rate fell.  CNBC can focus on that today.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:48 | 394283 SDRII
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Yes the labor force conveniently down 350K or something with the unemployed falling 250K or so. Nice move. Lol

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:51 | 394297 E pluribus unum
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No, they just ran out of UI benefits so they don't count. In an unrelated issue, watch the number of convenience store robberies soar.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:28 | 394552 JohnG
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Strategic Suicide....

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:45 | 394848 A Nanny Moose
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We are due for an SNA/Patty Hearst type event.

I mean, would we really miss Paris Hilton, or her little Taco Bell dog?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:44 | 394260 AUD
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Leo Kock Kovaki, is looking the fool anyway.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:48 | 394286 snowball777
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He'll point to manufacturing...and maintain that all the new jobs as undertakers are green shoots.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:44 | 394262 jbc77
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That jobs report straight stunk. Mix in dollar funding crisis in Europe and you've got the recipe for freaky Fridays, gonna be a nervous weekend as well. Why hold equities over the weekend? Dumping will occur promptly, hopefully the market doesn't go no bid on the downside.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:44 | 394263 Bruce Krasting
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This number is a disaster. Look for a new jobs program and more deficits soon. Don't worry. QE-II will bail us out. Not.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:10 | 394328 taraxias
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You didn't think Summers was touting another $200 billion stimulus for nothing, did you?

More QE from Uncle Sugar coming soon.

And oh yes, interest rates going up soon says Leo, what a fucking joke.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:22 | 394765 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Well the natives will get restless real quick if they don't.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:44 | 394265 FranSix
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You mean, people are rolling up their sleeves and getting their nails dirty IN THE MINES??

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:44 | 394268 jkruffin
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Everyone on this site knew the scam jobs number wasn't going to hit.  People need to wake up and realize what the FED is doing, and it isn't any favor to anyone.  They need to wake up and realize there is no recovery, only manipulated data.  They have to inflate or we are doomed.  Either way stocks are not the place to be.  

Like I said, I hope JPM is on the hook for trillions of derivatives losses and they get shut down once and for all,  and GS too.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:53 | 394309 Matto
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Lets see one of their counterparties blow out in a rapid liquidation. Bring it, lets see this done once and fall. Where's that reset button?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:12 | 394333 SWRichmond
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Like I said, I hope JPM is on the hook for trillions of derivatives losses and they get shut down once and for all,  and GS too.

Me, too, friend.  Me, too.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:28 | 394404 Cursive
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+1  ES down 20+ pts.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:39 | 394821 ColonelCooper
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90% of the people in this country don't even know what the fuck the Fed is.  Or the Treasury. 

Conversely, they could tell you who won American Idol, and who they beat to get there.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:44 | 394269 LoneStarHog
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CNBS -- Would somebody SHUT DOWN this damn station, so that all employees (especially LIESman) will be considered in the DEATH side of the Birth/Death Model !!!!!

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:14 | 394505 A_MacLaren
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There will always be a voice for the propagandists.  Whether anyone actually listens, is an entirely seperate matter.

Can you say Pravda and will you observe the official dog walking hour?

CNBS will at some point be looking for another commentator, err, propgandist at some point, possibly when Rick Santelli decides he can't take it any more.

My guess is this replacement will be named SPINaker or SPINacher.

 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:45 | 394270 RSDallas
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CNBC is trying hard to turn a terd into a baby ruth and you can tell everyone around that table knows deep down we are all in deep doo doo.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:50 | 394278 FranSix
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'The polishing of a turd,' as it's referred to in journalistic circles.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:48 | 394615 Rusty_Shackleford
Fri, 06/04/2010 - 12:16 | 394954 Cognitive Dissonance
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Rusty, you didn't, did you?

I made the mistake of clicking the link even thought I had a strong suspicion where you were leading me. You sometimes amaze me with your depth of knowledge of popular culture.

And the fact that you're obviously well spoken leads me to believe you're some kind of aberration. No one can have this much popular culture knowledge and not be brain dead. :>)

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 14:43 | 395395 Rusty_Shackleford
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Thanks dude.  Absolutely love your stuff too.

 

I'm like the wind.

I'm everywhere!!!

 

Naaahhh.  I just try to keep a good balance between the Apollo/Dionysus thing.

 

"Every soul a battlefield"

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:51 | 394291 Cognitive Dissonance
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Don't you dare denigrate my Baby Ruth by connecting it in anyway to that sack of lies called CNBC.

The Baby Ruth is The Real Deal. It says so right on the package. :>)

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:52 | 394302 UGrev
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I thought it was a "Big fuckin' deal". 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:15 | 394350 LeBalance
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Caddy Shack scene.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:16 | 394356 bigdumbnugly
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is that the theme from Jaws I am hear playing in the background???

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:53 | 394644 Village Idiot
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"I got it!"

(close examination)

"Mmm, Baby Ruth."

"Hey, it's a a Baby Ruth!"

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:45 | 394272 AUD
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That didn't come half as funny as I thought it would. What happened to the strikethrough?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:45 | 394273 HelluvaEngineer
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Good thing those circuit breakers are finally online.

Huh, what?

...oh shit

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:46 | 394275 doomandbloom
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Leo..u there?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:49 | 394289 MyFriendMises
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Give him some time.  He is very busy watching his net worth go down down down...

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:09 | 394325 doomandbloom
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heheh...actually i like Leo....i am using him as a barometer for panic......for, the day he turns bearish...it means there is no hope(ium) left..

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:07 | 394700 Busy-Body
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Agreed.  If 'Harry Wanker' can become "somewhat enlightened", there is also a glimmer of hope for Leo......

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:46 | 394276 BlackBeard
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Wow.....even magic isn't working anymore...what are our pigfarm masters going to do NOW?!?!

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:46 | 394277 lizzy36
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ahhh obama and biden doing the walk of shame.

waiting for christine romer to tell us how many jobs this administration has created or saved.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:32 | 394423 Miles Kendig
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The chatter is that without gov't "assistance" US unemployment would be 11%..  Look at Gross's chats this am.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:39 | 394446 Brett in Manhattan
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Of course, they don't posit, that without all the propping up of markets, at this point, we might be recovering for real.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:47 | 394280 assumptionblindness
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So, we added workers in the manufacturing, census and birth/death fantasy sectors?  The strong dollar is gonna be great for manufacturing.  The census won't last too long.  Even among American Idol viewers, the birth/death model is now officially a JOKE. 

Can U smell the panic?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:47 | 394284 trillion_dollar...
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What a disastrous report.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:52 | 394301 Cursive
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+1

The ONLY good news I can see is the increased work week.  This has to pick up before new hires.  Of course, still at depressed levels.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:48 | 394285 billwilson
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Starting to see drops in local and state government. This sector has held up over the last 2 years, but now looks to have faced relaity.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:50 | 394292 GS is short Gold
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Leo K. nails another one!!!!!!!

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:50 | 394294 Cursive
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Temporary help services added 31,000 jobs over the month; employment in the industry has risen by 362,000 since September 2009.

Me thinks temporary help is going to be permanently high.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:01 | 394675 Village Idiot
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I happened to have the pleasure of hittinga few balls with two retired gentlemen yesterday.  One came out of college and went to work for ML.  42 year career.  The other went to work at JC Penny's as a stock boy, and stayed on for 30 years.  Consensus - by and large, those days are gone in this country. 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:51 | 394295 east paris trader
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Did you catch Becky's face after NFP came out this morning... she looks like she needs to take the red-eye to Omaha to "pay-off" Uncle Warren on their side bet.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:52 | 394298 chindit13
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Robert Barbera, an email addressed to you was mistakenly sent to my box.  I tried to call CNBC to pass it through to you privately, but all the lines were busy, apparently due to lots of calls from outraged sheeple.  Anyway, I apologize for the public nature of this, but here's your mail:

"Dear Bob,

You're lucky you are not still with Nomura Securities, as the Japanese would hand you a short sword and a white towel.  In any event, two weeks with pay.  I hear Census is looking for folks.  All the best."

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:03 | 394478 snowball777
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Hatoyama got off too easily.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:52 | 394300 Waterfallsparkles
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Time for Bernankie to gun the Futures and leave all of the shorts befudled like they did when the Jobless rate dipped to 10%.  Market rallyed 300 points.

What about Joe Biden commenting on Wenesday that the Jobs Numbers would be a fablous number.  Did he intentionally Manipulate the Market?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:21 | 394523 TooBearish
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Smilin' Joe - "....this is a big fukking deal...."

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:52 | 394304 sumo
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Eurozone looks a runaway train this morning. Index futures are glowing radioactive red.

It's gonna be wild today.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:52 | 394305 jkruffin
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Art Cashin looks like someone pissed hot sauce on his face he is losing so much money this morning.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:02 | 394306 centerline
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This is going to leave a mark.  I wish I could watch CNBC right now.  The pump monkeys must be pulling hair out.  Wasn't just 20 minutes ago on talk radio that the "fantastic" jobs number pump job was full on.  LOL.  Somebody in the Bureau of Statistical Manipulation is going to get fired for this one.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:53 | 394307 viator
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Did the Swiss just pull the Eur/CHF 1.40 peg?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:53 | 394308 johngaltfla
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S&P 1044 here we come.

Two words, no matter the spin, describe this report:

Unmitigated Disaster.

And look at the revisions boys and girls.....

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 08:53 | 394310 Sisyphus
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This is what AP had to say about today's payroll number. Man, how many contradictory statements do they have in that brief paragraph.

<AP>

The nation's employers likely unleashed a wave of hiring last month, but it probably won't be repeated.

Most of the jobs expected to have been generated in May were for census workers hired on a temporary basis by the federal government. Such hiring is expected to have peaked in May and then begin tailing off in June.

By contrast, hiring by private employers -- the backbone of the economy -- may have slowed down a bit in May.

All told, the Labor Department's new employment snapshot released Friday morning is likely to be seen as further evidence that the job market is healing. Yet it's still years away from normal health and from recouping the millions of jobs wiped out by the recent recession.

</AP>

 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:01 | 394311 Brett in Manhattan
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If you can remember way back to 2008, increasingly bad jobs reports, more often than not, caused the market to rise. Of course these rises were rationalized by the media with absurdities like, "Investors were hoping that the worse than expected jobs report might spur Congress to act on a new stimulus bill."

So, the contrarian in me thinks this drop on a bad report is a way to shake out some stock for an upcoming rally.

Just sayin'

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:03 | 394312 Tic tock
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Well if unemployment is rising and interest are low, then something must be broken with the transmission mechanism. Shame the banks are going to the wall, no, it is. Someone unfortunate is going to have to decree the writing-off the underwater mortgages, the selling of the performing onesm- and then, in the interests of national security, parcel off govt. land to the remaining non-landowning under a special program where they can mortgage it back to State banks at 1.5% / 25yr ...and if that wasn't difficult enough, somehow, raise the fed rate to around 6% and hope it works. Bless.  

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:03 | 394313 jory
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Long Bond up 1.5% and Gold Down.  LMFAO!!!  But I thought bad news is good for gold?  Idiots.

 

 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:17 | 394362 Turd Ferguson
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Douchebag

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:22 | 394383 MyFriendMises
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+100.  I was was going to post same thing but I figured I would give you the honor.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:54 | 394453 homersimpson
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I guess we all should feel bad for the Jory since his parents kept spanking him with gold brick as a child..

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:08 | 394494 JohnG
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Too many whacks in the head?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:47 | 394868 ColonelCooper
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Bide your time boy.  Someday, when your age comes to parity with your IQ you'll have it figured out.  (I'm thinking like 25?) 

It'll be the day when you stand in line all day to buy a pound of flour, and they laugh at you staring mesmerized by your Trillion Dollar Bill, and tell you to move along.

Douche.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 13:58 | 395318 faustian bargain
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Yeah, gold is down to $1218. Take that, gold idiots!

Hang on...1218 is up, not down. I'm confused. Please help me out here jory.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:05 | 394315 jkruffin
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What they don't tell you is that out of all the Census jobs so called created, it is almost all teenagers and not anyone holding a mortgage or credit.  One came to my door, and I saw a bunch downtown, and it was all kids.  I saw maybe 5 adults tops.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:13 | 394343 Brett in Manhattan
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My experience has been different. Most Census workers I've seen were older types (50+) who had most likely been out of the work force and will most likely go back to that status once the project is over.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 11:13 | 394721 Conrad Murray
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I'll throw my experience in the mix.  Seen three Census people, all early 20s.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:04 | 394316 demsco
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LEO, IT IS NOT AS BAD AS IT LOOKS!!!! I told you so, I was 30K off, sorry, but I nailed every other part of the report. Good luck with your solar stocks, try some MO so you have something to do after you get screwed. I got no problem with anyone being bullish, but just don't be stupid about things.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:17 | 394359 Brett in Manhattan
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I wanna send this one out to my boy, Leo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIdIqbv7SPo

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:04 | 394317 MyFriendMises
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No point running so I am going to just climb to the top of the highest hill and watch the tidal wave come in.

P.S. the site is going to be down all day.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:04 | 394318 carlo
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I - must - buy - dip

I - must - buy- dip

 

lol ..... let's see if we get another huge bounce off the opening bell. I've been playing a few of them, but I'm not gonna play this one. But I just can't see the PPT letting this market below 10,000 after all the money they've spent so far. Hmmmm .... maybe play small ?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:10 | 394327 Brett in Manhattan
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Speaking as a guy with a few open long positions, the wait for the opening bell on days like this is the financial equivalent of the Bataan Death March.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:14 | 394344 cognitis
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Daytraders shorted ES down about 13 handles on about 50k contracts right at 8:30, so expect a great short-covering rally by 4PM.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:06 | 394321 TomB
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"temporary help services"

Is that an euphemism for BP oil spill cleanup workers?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:11 | 394331 idea_hamster
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...or hookers.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:35 | 394434 cowdiddly
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quit picking on our service sector economy

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:20 | 394375 johngaltfla
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Community organizers

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:06 | 394322 sumo
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Obama and Biden look like dopes, talking up jobs, jobs, jobs.

Oh, did they mean Steve?

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:08 | 394324 jesusonline
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Another point to this pretty bleak jobs report. Contrary to the way CNBC, Yahoo and most of the MSM tried to spin it, unemployment came down from 9.9% to 9.7% because 322,000 people dropped out of the labor force.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:10 | 394329 cognitis
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U-6 decreased to 16.6%, so bears wanting a "double dip" received today a detriment.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:12 | 394335 LoneStarHog
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CNBS: Touting that this is the largest INCREASE since March 2000 !!!

DUH!  When was the LAST U.S. Census ?????

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:13 | 394342 TraderMark
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The U-6 dropped in part due to labor force participation imploding 0.2%.  Same with unemployment rate.  Both helped by countless Americans giving up.  err I mean retiring, going on welfare or disability.

This was a horror show report.  Other than wages going up 0.3% there was nothing here that was good.  Labor forece participation down to 65.0%!

http://www.fundmymutualfund.com/2010/06/430000-jobs-of-which-411000-were...

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:15 | 394349 cognitis
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I used U-6 not the popular U-3, because it includes desperate workers who have "dropped out".

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:14 | 394346 M4570D0N
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This report is weak sauce, for sure. But you cant take NSA birth/death figures and subtract them directly from SA Nonfarm payroll figures like that.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:16 | 394351 docj
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Cue QE-v2.0 (or whatever number we're up to now)

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:17 | 394360 east paris trader
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We'll see how this turns out, but when NFP gets pumped its because TBTF sent out the "pump memo".   Looks to me like they are now short and positioned for the take down.   If the report had been solid, it would have been talked down.... 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:24 | 394391 anony
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Precisement!

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:18 | 394363 taraxias
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Enough of all this negative talk. Apple is about to announce a new and improved iphone. It buys the dips automatically even while you sleep.

Leo has the prototype.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:49 | 394624 viahj
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"It buys the dips or else it gets the QE hose again"

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 15:23 | 395586 doggings
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"It buys the dips or else it gets the QE hose again"

bwahahahahahahaha - laugh of the day  +100k

Silence of the Lambs, lmao thx for that ;)

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:18 | 394366 LeBalance
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Let us not loose our focus. AHEM!!! Tap. Tap. Tap.

Alright then, if this is the report Published, what is the reality?

/reality OFF/

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:19 | 394369 Pladizow
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You guys just dont get it.

The #'s were low because of the Memorial Day Holiday!

You're all so stipid.

Just buy equities.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:20 | 394371 Gunny
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This is a controlled demolition. The FEDs are simply setting us up for QE 2. Just waits for the cues and then pile into the S&P for more Ponzi units as we sprint to global fiat currency debasement.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:20 | 394372 Miles Kendig
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Art Cashin - Get those DOW 10K HELMETS ready  ROFLMAO

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 12:33 | 395034 Cognitive Dissonance
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I heard that comment live and I busted out laughing.

I think old Art is beginning to recognize that the insanity is about to exponentially increase and retirement is beginning to look mighty good.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:20 | 394374 Der_Smelt
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I'm not even a conspiracy theorist, but this seems to play right into the QE II plan.  Home buying subsidy runs out, jobs 'creation' slows and as things turn sours, the admin can then sell the people on using some more of their own money, or some newly printed stuff for QE II, nuclear option $1T minimum?  Hard assets continue to be the goal....accumulate stuff.  Paper, well it's good to use for kindling.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:21 | 394378 Justin Credible
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No worries on the employment front.....QE2 = S&P 1500.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:22 | 394384 cognitis
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I usually don't trade ES, but so many here are clearly hyping an atbest marginally bearish report that I should probably perceive a place to buy ES today.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:25 | 394392 three chord sloth
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So, can we re-examine our trade policies yet?

We get these theories from academia, then our politicians enact policy based on those theories, but we never sit down and analyse if they work or not.

"Free trade benefits all" has been US policy only a few decades; it's not like it has a long history of success around the world to fall back on... in short, it's a theory. Can we soberly analyse it's effects yet? Without ideological blinders and political posturing?

Y'know... reality judges the truth of the theory, not the other way around. Just sayin'.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:57 | 394459 Brett in Manhattan
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Not to mention that these same academics have created a system, tenure, that prevents them from getting canned because someone will do the job for less.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:15 | 394509 three chord sloth
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Race-to-the-bottom for thee, but not for me!

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:26 | 394396 jory
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Dollar strong as a bull elk.  But I thought bad news is bad for the dollar?  LMFAO!!  Idiot Goldbugs are always on the wrong side of the trade.

 

 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 09:27 | 394400 Don Mattingly
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I love ZH, but why do you insist on subrtacting the Birth Death number from the top line number? You can not do that. That is not how the numbers work. Please check out this link: http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesbd.htm 

 

Not trying to be critical, just want to make sure everyone has their facts straight

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:48 | 394617 jesusonline
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You can not do that. That is not how the numbers work.

Let me junk you first. And second, there has been a number of articles related to birth-death model. In a nutshell - it's just another convenient way to manipulate the numbers.

Here's an article from October, 2009

U.S. Job Losses May Be Even Larger, Model Breaks Down

About 824,000 more jobs may be subtracted from the payroll count for the 12 months through last March when the figures are officially revised early next year, a Labor Department report showed today. The revision would be the biggest since at least 1991.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aGBkhROUjNds

Keep adding up jobs on the back of birth-death, then revise them - but oh it's already old news so doesn't matter.

Hope it helps to "get your facts straight".

 

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 10:48 | 394618 Pladizow
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Wanna make sure I understand.

Listen to the BLS about a # they make up?

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