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North Korea Says Situation So Grave War May Break Out At Any Moment

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Headlines from Reuters. Kim, unlike Donny, is not a pacifist it seems.

 

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Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:45 | 391697 Turd Ferguson
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Let's get it on!!!

 

(easy for me to say...safely ensconced in my bunker in Kansas)

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:56 | 392284 geminiRX
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Get it on? People forget memorial day pretty fast. Listen, war in that arena will be ultimately nasty. You guys got 28,500 troops that may die very quickly if confrontation breaks out. Don't forget that your sons may also get drafted as your army is pretty thinly stretched.....which happens to be the current state of affairs. War is hell and we don't want to go down that road.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:46 | 391698 xenophobe51
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SHUT THE FUCK UP, DONNY!!!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:54 | 391737 Hansel
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What's wrong with Walter, Dude?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:30 | 391878 wagefreedom
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I always thought it was his weird haircut and campy glasses. And he's realizing he's not the bowler he hoped he'd be...

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:48 | 391930 Crook County
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I dabbled in pacifism once.  Not in Nam of course.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:46 | 391700 papaswamp
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Well I guess the element of surprise isn't that tactically important...

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:37 | 392224 Kimo
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When the first shell hits Seoul.... SURPRISE!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:48 | 391709 JJ McApe
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DOW 11000!!!!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:50 | 391716 Tarheel
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Donny??

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:51 | 391717 DaveyJones
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That's because Kim is a little bit country, while Donny is definitely rock and roll

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:53 | 391728 wagefreedom
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ha ha ha nice

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:52 | 391719 Crab Cake
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Fire all of your guns at once, and explode into space...

Steppenwolf - Born to Be Wild

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdiWEmTpwCY

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:52 | 391723 Rider
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Don't buy it, this is the every summer petting game. Luv is in the air.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:52 | 391726 the grateful un...
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Interesting to see where China positions themselves. Why the Chinese don't try to address this as a regional problem, doesn't square with their sometimes provocative military activities (shooting at satellites, shadowing our carriers, building a blue water navy, which Heritage says will someday be the most prominent force on the worlds oceans) I mean if Mexico had nuclear weapons, and they were firing missiles over the GOM, the US would do something. When America went to war we converted our factories to military equipment. Now who has all the factories? 

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:01 | 391767 desgust
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When America went to war?

Your America is ALWAYS at war, dude!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:07 | 391781 xenophobe51
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He's talking about big boy war, not the army-men-in-the-sandbox kid's routine we're playing at today. "Pew! Pew! Kaboom! Mom, Osama isn't playing fair!"

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:08 | 391784 Running on Empty
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No fukcign kidding.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:38 | 391899 Missing_Link
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You say that like it's a bad thing.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:13 | 391986 WaterWings
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This Gulf of BP disaster-monster is starting to lay eggs in the psyche of America. I predict a serious diversion is on the way.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:52 | 392275 ZerOhead
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I was thinking the same thing... BP's environmental abortion... aka El Gordo... has been chipping away at 'We the Sheeples' belief in Obama's "Yes we can't" campaign of hope.

This has the potential undermine confidence in Washington BP when we need it the most.

We need another war... one we can win.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:42 | 392678 leftcoastfool
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"We need another war... one we can win."

 

Has Grenada kidnapped any US medical students recently?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:30 | 391874 Samsonov
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China will always be for a divided and weak Korea.  With their long historical perspective, they are obsessed with the fact that the ancient Korean kingdom once encompassed Manchuria and much of northern China.  They will do all they can to keep Korea down, and every action they take makes sense when viewed through this lens.  They are not concerned with suffering in Korea, and indeed, another war there would suit their long term interests very well.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:49 | 391936 kennard
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I would give China credit for living in the present. Their adversary is the U.S. They use NK to test us, with a cover of plausible deniability. We play, as well, by using Taiwan and SK to nip at the PRC's heels.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 14:37 | 392399 AnAnonymous
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Big issue here: it implicitly introduces Korean re unification as a walk in the park.

Germany reunification was not easy and strongly favoured by the EMU/EU organization favourable to Germany trade policy.

South Korea is not the same powerhouse as Germany and will not be able to build around the same scheme as Germany.

Reunification is far from being a given for Korea. The effort might be such that the whole country will be deeply weakened for at least two decades (Germany reunification took around 15 years to settle in)

China might take advantage of this weakened status to expand (not militarily but economically) into its Korea neighbour.

The present is the continuation of the past and some actions cannot be reversed. The partition of Korea is one of those events that cannot be that easily reversed. The US has changed the deal in the region.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:22 | 392483 longjohnshorts
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+100

Notice also that Dear Leader's latest outburst follows several days of silence in the region -- during which, you can be sure, Beijing, Washington, Seoul, Tokyo and more have been trying to hash something out with Pyongyang. By stamping his foot once more in public, KJI is just pressing to improve his negotiating terms. (I.e., "give us more fuel and more food, or we sink another one.")

With this nut on its doorstep, China is not in a happy position. Certainly, they don't want war, due to the refugee problem it would create. On the other hand, they probably don't want a united Korea either, at least not under the (Washington-supported) SK banner. So, yes, the status quo is probably China's preference (at least until they reassimilate Taiwan  and see the U.S. ousted from Japan).

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:29 | 392648 Samsonov
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Except that re-assimilation of Taiwan is technically not possible since Taiwan has never been a part of China.

Fri, 06/04/2010 - 05:06 | 394037 AnAnonymous
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How so?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 18:31 | 427936 Anonymouse
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Taiwan (Republic of China) was formed by the Nationalists who were the legitimate rulers of mainland China before Mao's coup.  They retreated strategically to Taiwan.  Since Mao was a usurper and never defeated Taiwan, Beijing has no legitimate claim to Taiwan

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:40 | 391907 ZerOhead
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China has already concluded it was "false flag". It is possible they may still have designs on the Korean penninsula... after all it was theirs once long ago!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 19:59 | 393111 thisandthat
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a blue water navy, which Heritage says will someday be the most prominent force on the worlds oceans

 

If this is the shape of things to come...:

http://rupeenews.com/usa/zeng-he-haji-mahmud-shams-big/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gFAI7TWVs (in German)

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:53 | 391727 Shylockracy
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Whew, that's a welcome and timely relief. Now I can turn my mind away from civilians being massacred in Palestine.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:54 | 391736 Anonymouse
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Where is the "False Flag" brigade?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:57 | 391748 jdrose1985
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Love the handle and pic

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:00 | 391760 Anonymouse
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Thx

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:58 | 391754 Duuude
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Notice the paucity of news lately about tha Banksters?

Must be a coinkidink.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:46 | 391911 ZerOhead
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Just got in Anonymouse! See my post below... read before ya diss Bro!

Hey... do a quick Google search and see for yourself that Baengnyeong Island is THE main state of the fu$%ing art Anti-Sub warfare base... and the marines where laying mines there while a joint military excercise was underway.

A guppy couldn't have gotten through that straight undetected... and if N Korea did then we have a seriously defective system in place!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:12 | 392142 john_connor
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Right here, courtesy of Asia times: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/LF04Dg02.html

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 14:01 | 392306 ZerOhead
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Nice summation John Conner... perhaps you are fit to lead after all!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:56 | 391744 Jake3463
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How bad is the situation in China and how badly do the Chinese Communist need a distraction is the question.  Otherwise Kim doesn't move an inch. 

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:56 | 391745 Spitzer
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Treasurys at risk then ? How will China like to see the US military in its front yard ?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:39 | 392231 callistenes
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We are already there.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:56 | 391746 Caviar Emptor
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The Kimchi War.  

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:21 | 392004 Hephasteus
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Operation stinky piss.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:46 | 392078 MsCreant
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That was the Asparagus War. Totally different.

Heph, I have tried to enlarge to answer my own question, but it did not work. Is your avatar a Dinosaur with mirror glasses carrying some kind of tea service?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 14:45 | 392418 Hephasteus
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No you guys went to the disney characters so I went to Over the HEDGE character because disney sucks wicked witch balls. It's Hammy From over the Hedge. Because this is Zero Hedge and you can't hedge against us. Winter's over and we are fucking hungry. And ass is on the menu.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYD6-0bHGb0&feature=fvw

 

 

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:56 | 391747 bugs_
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Kimmy don't let the Israeli's steal
your press.  You blast a ship into
pieces killing 46 sailors and you get
nothing.  Hardly a peep.  Israelis
board a ship carrying pokemon, get
tossed overboard, eventually let a
bunch go, and they hog the press for
days.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:03 | 391771 Coldcall
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N Korea is the sideshow, there arent any suicidal passive/agressive activists interested in it.

and not to worry, the Rachel Corrie is expected soon, so unless N Korea nukes S Korea, i think the media will once again revert attention back to their pet subject.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:57 | 391750 HarryWanger
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Another day, another Korean War BS statement. There is no way in hell these guys are going to do some serious battle. All words - nothing more.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:00 | 391950 Miles Kendig
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WOW.  Either you're Kim in disguise, one heck of a flamboyant or a miserable excuse of someone attempting to lie to themselves that you know all there is to know about something you know nothing about. Which on is it Harry? One thing is certain, you are most definitely an American trader

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 10:58 | 391755 Gordon Freeman
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I am so tired of those endless apocalyptic threats from KJI.

 Li'l Kim, if you want to rumble, just bring it...and quit talking about it!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:02 | 391770 Anonymouse
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No one understands him.  No one takes him seriousry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh_9QhRzJEs

 

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:03 | 391765 Weimar Ben Bernanke
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North Korea is not a threat. The Cold warriors in the Pentagon just want a bogeyman to continu our military presence in south Korea. To keep our American imperialistic empire and surround China and Russia in that region. 


South Korea can crush North Korea without  American help.  North Korea’s million-man army may look impressive on paper, but remember that Iraq had a million-man army, which also had modern equipment, combat experience, and plenty of fuel. 

      In contrast, North Korean soldiers suffer from malnutrition and rarely train due to a scarcity of fuel and ammo.  Most North Korean soldiers could not attack because they are needed to defend the entire DMZ and coastal approaches (they remember the 1950 landing at Inchon) while entire divisions must remain throughout North Korea to fend off heliborne offensives, food riots, and probable coups.

      On the other hand, the entire 700,000 man South Korean active duty army can be devoted to the defense of Seoul.  The modern South Korean army is backed by over 5,000,000 well-trained reservists who can be called to duty in hours.  South Korea has twice the population of the North, thirty times its economic power, and spends three times more on its military each year.  South Korean military equipment is first class whereas most of the North Korean military equipment is over 30 years old and much is inoperable due to a lack of maintenance.  If war broke out, South Korea has a massive industrial capacity and $94 billion in foreign currency reserves to sustain a war, while North Korea has no industry and no money.  As a result, South Korea is roughly five times more powerful than North Korea.

     If North Korea insanely attacked, the South Koreans would fight on mountainous and urban terrain which heavily favors defense, and complete air superiority would shoot up anything the North Koreans put on the road.  Assuming the North Koreans could start up a thousand of their old tanks and armored vehicles, they cannot advance through the mountainous DMZ.  The South Koreans have fortified, mined, and physically blocked all avenues through these mountains, and it would take North Korean infantry and engineers weeks to clear road paths while under fire.

     The North Korean military could gain a few thousand meters with human wave assaults into minefields and concrete fortifications.  However, these attacks would bog down from heavy casualties, and a lack of food and ammo resupply.  Fighting would be bloody as thousands of South Korean and American troops and civilians suffer from North Korean artillery and commando attacks.  Nevertheless,  the North Korean army would be unable to breakthrough or move supplies forward.  Even if North Korea magically broke through, all military analysts scoff at the idea that the North Koreans could bridge large rivers or move tons of supplies forward while under attack from American airpower. 

 The US military ignores this reality and retains old plans for the deployment of 450,000 GIs to help defend South Korea, even though the superior South Korean military can halt any North Korean offensive without help from a single American soldier.  American forces are not even required for a counter-offensive.  A North Korean attack would stall after a few intense days and South Korean forces would soon be in position to overrun North Korea.  American air and naval power along with logistical and intelligence support would ensure the rapid collapse of the North Korean army.   

The real question is that of intent and calculus: why would Kim Chong-il--an individual capable of rational thinking, so it is thought--order the KPA to attack South Korea when he knows that attempted conquest is of a zero-sum nature--and likely to result in the destabilization and/or removal of his regime?  Put another way--why would a weaponless bully punch someone in the mouth "just for the fun of it" when the bully knows that his target possesses a revolver?  Sure, the bully throws the punch and gets in his jab, but at what cost?--the bully gets shot and killed in the retaliatory process.

Why should we have a presence there at all. We are bankrupt because of military spending,entitlements and many other things. If they want to fight let them fight but leave us out of this. Those troops in South Korea would be in better use to protect our borders. No war will emerge from this.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:12 | 391796 WaterWings
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Fascinating post...so it's Beijing's move. Watch and wait.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:13 | 391806 firstdivision
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nice analysis, many great arguments for the need for the US to just GTFO of the Korean Pennsula.  If lil'Kim did order an attack, what is the likelyhood that the generals would just ignore the order?  In the unlikely event that war did break out, what would happen to the South Koreans economy to support the starved and malnourished from the North?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:41 | 391909 the grateful un...
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Bush and Rumsfeld were doing exactly that. They pulled troops back from the DMZ. Some thought it was part of their policy to appease China. After they took Georgie Bushs spy plane and sent it home in a bag, Bush signed WTO, (two weeks after 9/11)the only bill authored by Clinton that Bush signed.

The geographic difficulties are the same as they were in the 50s'. NK could mount a blitzkreig and push all the way to the bottom of the pennisula before the UN, or US could react. Of course we know this as well, but have chosen to back off from positions which would prevent that kind of attack. By the time we cleared it with China, to fire Nukes, the NKA army would be across the line, and then what, you nuke South Korea to stop them? What's needed here is a gentlemans war to settle the matter, but let me put a few ideas up on top.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:13 | 391807 RowdyRoddyPiper
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Interesting ideas, however you don't mention that one fly in the ointment that the DPRK possess...nukes.

As well, if the ROK and the Americans can be in a position to overrun the North, who knows what the Chinese will do. Will they react like they did in the 50s? If so, stalemate #2.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:26 | 391844 Crab Cake
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The first Korean War was the birth of the nuclear stalemate.  Does no one remember MacArthur's plan for victory?  Perhaps the second Korean War, or the the resumption of the first, will be the end to nuclear stalemate.

Of course the Chinese will react the way they reacted before!  N Korea is a buffer state, China's buffer state. China has no wish to see the Korean peninsula reunited, which would be the outcome of a conflict sans China's influence. 

In my estimation China wants to lure the US into a confrontation that they can win.  They can never be number one without evicting the the US out of their neighborhood.  If Korea goes hot, however unlikely, I would expect to see Taiwan opened as a second front shortly thereafter once China got involved.

Hey Pandora!  Let me see that cute little box you've got there honey...

Here's a tip.  Stop listening to the politics, and listening to the news reports, just look at the pieces on the board.  Once you have done that, ask yourself, "Why are those pieces where they are are?"  Trust yourself.  A person's own logic and gut instinct free from outside input telling you how to think is usually right.

Hey GeoPol, where are you dude?  Can we get an assist?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:48 | 391923 SDRII
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Although a nuking in the north and the associated fallout may put a crimp in some of those industrial development zones. Then again with the recent article on China arable land shrinking this would be a nice accretive deal, north korea that is (22.4% arable per Factbook)

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:00 | 391956 Weimar Ben Bernanke
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China does not want war. China will help North Korea only in one circumstance,and that is if US-South Korean forces were to push back the North Korean force all the way to Pyongyang and plan to take North Korea. Remeber China does not want a united Korea that is either Democratic or Communist. They want the status quo. So if a war breaks(which is highly unlikely)China will hope that US-South Korean forces will just push back the invasion. Bomb North Korea,and not send a single soldier into North Korea. China is terrifeld of a unified Korea,because a unified Korea will challenge China's future plans for the Pacific.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:16 | 391815 Duuude
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WBB

Great post, thanx...I sense there is  frustration/desperation in tha North.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:17 | 391823 Tarheel
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Looks like very thorough analysis, just one problem. If you know this, then they know this, and they will use Nukes in stead of waves and waves of humans.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:52 | 391943 Sunshine Down t...
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  You hit the nail right on the head... Kim needs something so he'll pick up his rusty saber, bang it around a bit, get some press, then get some money/resources/chics/cars or something to keep him and his 'crown-prince' son in power.

  I'm more worried about the U.S. trying to conduct a 'surgical strike' to knock out his nukes.  That will just get a shitload of people killed and further tank American credibility.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:55 | 391949 Lax Accounting
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Nukes and artillery much?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:58 | 392109 TimmyM
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I like your post very much. Those who flagged it as junk are closed minded idiots. One thing you may have miscalculated is your assumption that Kim is truly aware of the situation in the south. His intelligence assets there are incented to be yes men and may have painted a much more tempting picture than you assume.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:12 | 391799 seventree
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NK belligerence inversly proportional to global attention they are getting.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:16 | 391814 Psquared
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One of the members of the commission studying the wreakage of the Cheonan apparently disagreed with the conclusion that it was sunk by a torpedo from a NK sub. I read on Denninger's site (sorry, don't have a link) that this engineer wrote a letter to Hillary Clinton to express his view that it was more likely that the ship ran aground. I have not seen the letter or the basis for his conclusions but it is out there.

So is this disinformation intended to keep us distracted or saturated so we (the sheeple) do not get too outraged? I mean everything that has happened over the past few months seems to be worse (or at least equal to) than what happened before.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:52 | 391865 ZerOhead
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Correct... after it's a fact all the captains first distress call was "GROUNDED"... not "Oh Fuck my goddamn ship has been blown into two!" The call was recorded at 9:15... but later it was changed to 9:45 when the explosion (probably a mine) occured.

Don't get me wrong... Lil Kim is a sociopathic piece of shit who richly deserves to get what he deserves (like a Hellfire missile up his ass!)... but when you read over the reports... something really stinks!

Read first... then junk me! :)

http://www.seoprise.com/~bu/dk/Letter_to_Hillary_Clinton_US_Secretary_of...

Potential motive?

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_5930.shtml

http://newamericamedia.org/2010/05/did-an-american-mine-sink-the-south-k...

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:00 | 391961 WaterWings
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Thx, because where else do we go for crowd-sourced truth? ZH community rocks. Okay, Tyler and Marla rock too.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:19 | 391998 ZerOhead
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Truth?... Truth?... we can't handle the truth! :)

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:16 | 391816 Caviar Emptor
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If war broke out and North Korea got crushed, we'd have to negotiate a peace with China. Treasuries would tank as the deal would entail monetary concessions. 

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:17 | 391820 bada boom
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I'm gonna do it this time.  I swear.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:18 | 391824 AnAnonymous
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Could it be?

Let's see that.

The US usually introduces Japan as their show case when asked about building democracy around the world.

The US does not occupy countries, they maintain military with the consent of the foreign countries.

Lately, a Japanese official resigned on matter the Japanese elected him to dismantle a US base in Japan and he pitifully failed.

Should have been a doodle, Japan the US made democracy, the US not occupying countries against their will yet...

What better than a outright threat near Japan shores to send the Japanese the message they need this US military base in Japan to guarantee their security?

 

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:25 | 391854 Caviar Emptor
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Right. Okinawa, the base in question, is semi-covertly nuclear. The handling of nuclear material in the Pacific after WW2 was sloppy at best and cleanup would be costly and embarrassing. US wants to maintain a circle of fire around China and Russia which includes Oki. 

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:26 | 391857 BeerGoggles
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This is what happens when you f u c k a stranger in the ass.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:33 | 391887 carbonmutant
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 Somebody is goading Kim into this...

No Juche required...

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:36 | 391894 ZerOhead
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And he's a grandstanding sociopath in ill health who is ready to die... way to go Hillary!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:27 | 392017 carbonmutant
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Bomb now and pay later has little consequence if you're already dying...

But you may be right. The White House needs something to take the heat off our "community organizer".

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:45 | 392682 WaterWings
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Hillz told Israel to investigate itself for the publicly announced number of flotilla murders - no word on the "missing" Turks. They're not available for comment for some reason.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 11:47 | 391924 williambanzai7
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Somebody better fix the situtation.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:00 | 391962 the grateful un...
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Not sure China wants Korean reconciliation, which means sharing a border with a US ally. Their efforts to undermine democracy in Taiwan have lately not gathered much press. Any war would send millions of NK refugees fleeing into China. Of course it was the fear that China would defend North Vietnam which hamstrung the military planners, later China fought a war with North Vietnam. SE Asia is not all one big happy family. 

A war which resolves nothing would be the best solution all the way around. The major powers get together and figure out who is going to win, where the war will be fought, and how much aid they give their respective sides.

The geopolitical equivalent of kicking the can down the road, because we can't afford change.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:41 | 392061 carbonmutant
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China built a massive concrete and barbed border fence for just such an eventuality.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/06/front2454034.086111111.html

 

 

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:03 | 391965 Miles Kendig
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If open hostilities do start afresh, since an official state of war has existed between the North & South since 1950 China would have a bit more on its plate than refugees.  Perhaps China has awoken to the potential economic dynamics of a military centric economy since housing & exports won't do the job of keeping "growth" going on glide path by themselves... As China discovers the trap of a growth fueled dynamic to sustain power.  Power will usually choose to go down fighting rather than risk collapse from within.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:05 | 391973 Zina
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Hey Kim, you should wait at least until the first game of  Brazil's National Team in the FIFA World Cup 2010:

Brazil x North Korea

June, 15 - 3:30 PM - Ellis Park Stadium, Johannesburg.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:45 | 392071 carbonmutant
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How much attention would the world pay to their extracurricular activities during the World Cup?

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:29 | 392178 Zina
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Nuclear armageddon should wait until the end of the World Cup. If it comes before that, it's a total lack of respect!

The world may come to an end, but Brazil will be HEXA before!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:22 | 392173 Weimar Ben Bernanke
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Hey Zina your a Brasil fan too? Finally something we both can agree on! I'ma little nervous about DUNGa's selection.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:27 | 392186 Zina
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Dunga is an asshole!

Robinho, Ganso and Neymar would be the perfect "dream team"!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:21 | 392006 Attitude_Check
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Anyone else ever notice that NK hots up, when the middle east hots up?  Could this be intentional Chinese (or others?) use of NK to deflect US attention away from the middle east?

 

"OH NO YOU DON'T -- or we release lil kim (and his nukes)"

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:31 | 392036 reefermadness
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Could get real quiet on the internets, if cyberwar breaks out, 

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 12:57 | 392108 Poofter Priest
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Lil Kim is NOT stupid.

This is the geopolitical ballet at its best.

I agree that this is probably more to rattle the chains of Japan and any other Asian country that we have bases in.

I can think of many reasons why the U.S. stays in Korea. Uhhhh..., first up, China. Just as a 'howdy do' any attack in Korea would represent an attack on the U.S. (or any other place that has U.S. bases for that matter.) Then the U.S. would pick and choose how they would respond.

China is not 'afraid' of a united Korea. They'll do business no matter what as they are the 800 lbs gorilla.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:30 | 392200 stantheman
Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:42 | 392241 TeddyRoosevelt
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i would love to see kim in a hollywood flic.  i hope it happens some day.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 13:47 | 392260 bigfootmm
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NK is the quintessential showpiece for traditional communism. The CCP uses NK to remind its peasants that China could always return to its roots if the peasants get to protesting too much the current form.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 14:56 | 392436 faustian bargain
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Hey, maybe we'll get a new run of M*A*S*H out of this one. Hm, need a new cast...

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:11 | 392459 mkkby
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NK is the nuclear supplier for Iran.  Kim is also paid to heat things up to divert attention while Iran finishes their first bomb.  Then they have won, because nobody will touch them with a credible nuclear threat.

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 15:28 | 392503 Broker NotBroke
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Give Kimmy a break, all he wants is a little attention.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhve8_team-america-im-so-ronery_fun

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:10 | 392609 ZerOhead
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That was the sweetest most endearing piece of Lil Kim propaganda I've seen!

+1,000 Brokerman!

Thu, 06/03/2010 - 16:28 | 392645 ThisIsBob
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Buy the cannons, sell the trumpets.

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