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Number 2 Reactor Explodes, Damaging Core Containment Structure
There has now been an explosion at Fukushima reactor number 2 (reactors number 1 and 3 experienced explosions previously).
NHK reports:
The
sound of a blast was heard Tuesday morning at the troubled No. 2
reactor of the quake-hit Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, the
government said.
The incident occurred at 6:10 a.m. and is
feared to have damaged the reactor's pressure-suppression system, the
Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said, citing a report from the
plant's operator Tokyo Electric Power Co.
MSN notes:
Chief
Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told reporters that "damage appears on
the suppression pool" -- the bottom part of the container, which
contains water used to cool down the reactor and control air pressure
inside.
"But we have not recorded any sudden jump in radiation indicators," Edano said without elaborating.
If
confirmed, it will be the first direct damage to the reactor since a
massive earthquake and tsunami battered Japan's northeast coast on
Friday, knocking out nuclear plants in Fukushima, north of Tokyo.
Kyodo News is reporting higher radiation levels North of Tokyo after the blast.
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wind pattern going toward capital......
http://en.rian.ru/world/20110315/163008312.html
Number 4 is on fire and out of control and a evacuation order has been given for 30 km area.......
Ladies and gentlemen, I hate to keep saying this stuff, but this situation over in Japan is a major life changing event from what I am hearing. I am not sure how much of Japan will be livable after this, I am not kidding. They are talking about how the USS Ronald Reagan and support ships too off like scalded cats for some reason. Gee I wonder why? Plutonium perhaps? God help them and God help this world.
did you see wolf blitzer and one of his minions interviewing the director of the nuke plant on he beach in LA? this guy said they assumed the highest wave a tsunami would generate was 25 feet, so they built a wall thirty feet to keep the tsunami out. I guess the weakening magnetic field of the earth has already fried this guy's brain...
Is it safe to assume that the amount of radioactive material falling into the Pacific will be immaterial (PPM), and there won't be any contamination of the Pacific current? Would radioactive material (specific weight) keep some materials in suspension, while others would sink to the seabed? TIA
Everything near the reactors is going to be contaminated. As you move outward from the initial release site, the contamination level drops volumetrically--very roughly a 1000 to 1 ratio.
Things will be incredibly bad near the reactors. They will be bad 10 miles from the reactors. They will be not really appreciably bad 100 miles from the reactors.
Beyond that? Unnoticeable.
This is how such things work. Not a good time to visit Tokyo.
The study also found that land over 2,170 miles would be contaminated and damages would hit $546 billion.
That section of the Brookhaven study focused on boiling water reactors — the kind at the heart of the Japanese crisis. comment by GrizzlyB at 3/15/2011 3:21:43 AM
8:21 PM
I think we're generally in agreement, Creed. Check the sqrt of 2170, consider where 3MI was located and the surrounding population all the way back in 1979, and consider exactly what you've posted.
Yes, this is the most severe nuclear disaster ever. No, people living in the 50 states of the USA are not signficantly threatened by direct radiation exposure.
Is it at all possible some kind of domino effect could occur? Yeah, I guess in theory--I do generally expect more involved ecological interconnection than is *immediately* obvious.
Nuking Nagasaki could possibly have resulted in no tuna or squid for 30 years. Maybe. I guess. Sure.
The world is a complicated place.
Thanks. I was thinking more about food supplies. Contaminated soil & seafood, and the likelihood that Japan will need to increase food imports.
Without a doubt Japan will be increasing food imports. The whole Kobe beef craze was probably just brought to a screeching halt as well.
Japan was traditionally just on the verge of feeding itself--fashion of the past decade threatened that more so than usual. That's likely over. Food prices could be affected, but the population is not large enough or productive enough to displace US supplies by a significant degree.
Well, ok, maybe the price increases will hurt--but we're already giving all our poor foodstamps, and our Feds are already broke.
Inflation is one of those things that food prices can't affect.
(Bit of irony there if you like that sort of thing. Ha.)
Fernley, don't you have a shut down reactor sitting right there at Humboldt Bay? Isn't that situated right on the tip of the San Andreas?
Very reasoned article explaining three tier containment system.
http://www.businessinsider.com/japan-reactors-pose-no-risk-2011-3
Don't let the MSM and GW frighten you...
From your "reasonable" article:
"I repeat, there was and will *not* be any significant release of radioactivity from the damaged Japanese reactors.
By "significant" I mean a level of radiation of more than what you would receive on - say - a long distance flight, or drinking a glass of beer that comes from certain areas with high levels of natural background radiation."
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/japan-reactors-pose-no-risk-2011-3#ixzz1Ghu1tRLV Radiation levels of 400 milliSieverts are now being recorded (not microSieverts...the measure being used until now). 100 milliSieverts is the level of annual radiation exposure considered "safe". 4 times that amount is now being delivered per hour in the vicinity of the reactors. 100 milliSieverts in one hour can produce sterility in males. 400 milliSieverts begins to affect the lymphatic system and white blood cell mortality. It appears your oh so "reasonable" article is already an epic "fail". Enjoy that beer....you won't need a night light.Stormdancer rocks
look at the manipulation & brainwashing these fuckers engage in
the internet makes it easy
Might you be the "BI Nuclear Expert" who wrote that piece?
Either way I'm glad the Japanese can sleep better tonight....assuming there is a translation available of this article for them to read in the shelters.
Nuclear fire once fell upon them, and now they are about to unleash on themselves. Tell me the universe doesn't have a sick sense of humor.
humor ?
Oh shit.. They are saying Reactor 4 is HOT.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/from-press-conference-reactor-no4-is....
Real Link, and yeah I'd be shitting bricks if I was over there right now.
2:25AM
A bit more on the fire at unit 4: he says that spent fuel will not catch fire, but that they need to extinguish the fire because rising temperatures could cause the release of radioactive material.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/15/japan-nuclear-crisis-tsunami-live
If true: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
It won't stop.
Dominoes once upset have a tendency to create all kinds of collateral damage. If you watched unit three blowing this morning, then look at the satellite photo showing the damage to unit three and the debris all around, it's not surprising that units two and four were damaged.
BTW there are still units 5 and 6 at the same plant which were also shut down for maintenance when the tsunami hit. They are located about a quarter/half mile north of one thru four. No one talks about them other than to say they are OK. Where have we heard that before?
They say the Reactor No.5 and 6 also have used fuel rods in the storage pool inside the building but outside the containment vessel, and the storage pool's temperature are rising.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-used-fuel-rods...
I'm reading off the Japanese papers and news agencies.
I got it!
Twenty two, don't fucking redundant the redundancies.
I got it!
Twenty two, don't fucking redundant the redundancies.
I got it!
Twenty two, don't fucking redundant the redundancies.
Day-Jah-view.
They are doing press conference right now. Go to NHK Live
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/
Japan from 1100 to 8900 in 3 weeks. Buy that dip. Amazing Ben has a patent on the PPT and no country can use it worth a shit.
Yup, buy DFJ at 30.
Yup, buy DFJ at 30.
...Riot like its 1929 (Parody to 1999 Prince)...
Kareoke Sing along...new lyrics by me, his highness A D F.....
http://seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil.blogspot.com/2011/03/1929-parody-to-1999-prince.html
Shortly after the apparent blast at 6:10 a.m., which appears to have damaged the reactor's pressure-suppression system, the radiation level exceeded the legal limit to reach 965.5 micro sievert per hour before jumping to 8,217 micro sievert at 8:31 p.m., it said.
The maximum level is more than eight times the 1,000 micro sievert level to which people can be exposed in one year.
The utility said it is evacuating workers from the plant, except for those necessary for work to cool the reactor.
Also the primary containment.... ahrrrrghfuk! about covers it.
Shortly after the apparent blast at 6:10 a.m., which appears to have damaged the reactor's pressure-suppression system, the radiation level exceeded the legal limit to reach 965.5 micro sievert per hour before jumping to 8,217 micro sievert at 8:31 p.m., it said.
The maximum level is more than eight times the 1,000 micro sievert level to which people can be exposed in one year.
The utility said it is evacuating workers from the plant, except for those necessary for work to cool the reactor.
PM Kan on deck at 11 ish local
My conjecture, I had to think a long time to figure out how could you have an explosion in the pressure suppression system other than continuing to vent the reactor vessel to the pressure suppression system which would have a lower burst pressure.
The construction of the "pressure suppression" system is shown in the diagram in the following link:
http://www.nucleartourist.com/type/bwr.htm
The pressure suppression system is the inerted drywell connected to the torus. Steam and hydrogen could have been vented at to the pressure suppression system when the reactor vessel attained very high pressure during the time they were not able to open the vent valve to the room above the reactor deck (that is what is supposed to happen). The question is: How did oxygen/air get into the pressure suppression system prior to the hydrogen venting? One possible method is the reactor operators substituted air for the safety required nitrogen. Was the chamber vented during the incident and no nitrogen was available to replace it, or was the utility using air to save a few dollars during normal operation.
There is no benefit to introducing air into the primary system. Since water is good (cooling effects), air is bad due to its' water displacing effect. Hydrogen is added only to scavange Oxygen (which is a corrosion concern) which combines to make more water (good, see above)
assuming that the plants in fukushima are the same basic design as the power-plants I have knowledge of.
No, the nitrogen or substituted air is introduced into the primary confinement pressure suppression vessel that surrounds the reactor vessel that you are trying to put water into. A jug inside another jug inside a concrete building jug.
Look at the diagram privided in the link above.
Max Zorin managed to detonate an underground nuclear device at the continental fault, triggering the earthquake.
Did you not see "A View to a Kill"?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090264/
Watch it again. Were you listening to what Tanya Roberts explained or concentrating on her fine anatomy (lips, eyes, sexy voice?). Zorin was pumping seawater into the faults, after which he was going to detonate ordinary chemical explosives near the blocking point of the fault slip. Really now, this is fact from a not half bad Bond flick. Grace Jones and a Duran Duran single, bitches.
...goddamn Zorinists...
..Zorinastrians..
mispost
The morons who designed this thing didn't have a water tank nearby to gravity feed the reactor in the event of power failure? Oh no. No need it. Coolant system designed by Toyota accelerator company.
You couldn't gravity feed water into these reactors because the vessels are pressurized. They must used large pumps to force the water in, then you bleed off some of the pressure, then you force more water in, then you bleed off the pressure and so on.
toyota? fair dinkum lol.
Its ok folks. as a back-up they keep a couple of 2nd hand soft drink bottles filled with water in the boot.
that should do the trick....
Tomorrow is another day...that should prove interesting. Jesus Fucking Christ, I'm getting tired of this..and it ain't over...not by a long shot.
Funny how soon the GOM issue was "resolved." Stay tuned. Tho really, I hope, to God, that finally, the rug is no longer big enough to hold all the toxic turds we are trying to sweep under it.
Twenty one, don't worry, be happy, every thing's gonna be OK for it'll all be taken care of by the gubamint like they made the GoM oil go away.
Thanks MsC, I'd a forgotten that one before I calmed down with my Ativan and Thorazine enema.
Poof. It worked for me. No GoM oil on mind other than the oil we aren't fucking drilling for thanks to greeny-socialist sabotage of our energy suppliers.
And where is our confident, reassuring teleprompter reading President during all this to tell us this catastrophe is good for U.S. exports and GDP!