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NY Fed's Bill Dudley On The Economic Outlook And The Fed's Balance Sheet

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Bill Dudley, who is merely Bernanke's propaganda mouthpiece, provides his two cents on the economic recovery and the Fed's engorged balance sheet.

"The economy should be boosted by three factors: 1) a modest recovery in housing activity and motor vehicle sales; 2) the impact of the fiscal stimulus on domestic demand; and 3) a sharp swing in the pace of inventory investment. In fact, if the inventory swing were concentrated in a particular quarter, we could see fairly rapid growth for a brief period."

You are right Bill about cause and effect, however all three items have yet to demonstrate any impact, aside from their "fudged" presentation. As for inventory - everyone is awaiting the GDP report: should provide for a good read.

Also, some shocking truth from the NY Fed ChairmanPresident:

Third, the Federal Reserve is taking on some interest-rate risk in terms of its balance sheet. The excess reserves have an overnight maturity. These liabilities are being used to purchase longer-term assets. In principle, if short-term interest rates were to move up very sharply, the cost of funding could eventually exceed the return on the Fed’s assets. The bigger our balance sheet, the greater the amount of interest-rate risk we are assuming.

We have examined this issue in detail. Suffice it to say, it is conceivable that the Federal Reserve’s net-interest margin could be pinched in certain  evironments—say if the economic recovery turned out to be very robust. But our analysis shows that it is extremely unlikely that the Fed’s net-interest margin will turn negative. In part, that is due to the fact that the balance-sheet risk associated with the interest-rate mismatch is offset to a large degree by the fact that the cost of much of the Fed’s liabilities—the amount of currency outstanding—is zero. So when short-term rates rise, the cost of a significant portion of the Fed’s liabilities is unaffected.

Good to know what exactly the Fed will never let interest rates do. Not to mention that there are roughly $300 trillion in derivatives betting alongside Bill's bet against interest rate Black Swans. It will be truly entertaining to watch what happens if China really does stop playing ball and the entire scenario has to be reevaluated while hundreds of billions in net derivative exposure comes crashing down.

 




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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 11:38 | Link to Comment KidDynamite
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isn't what Dudley described in terms of term funding discrepency basically EXACTLY what killed CIT?  borrow short, lend long?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:31 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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To his point about the cost of assets - the Fed has an asset that is limitless - the printing press.  That is basically what he is saying about currency having zero cost: they can produce it at will.

CIT did not have a printing press, if they did, they would be fine.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 17:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 13:38 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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thats nothing more than basic human nature .... 

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 11:47 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 11:44 | Link to Comment DebtorShredder
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Fascinating! They think the cost of their liabilities are zero, but somewhere those costs will have to be realized. I don't have a printing press at my house.

Maybe John Nash had the title of the game right, "F*ck you buddy!"

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 11:51 | Link to Comment agrotera
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Famous last words, "extremely unlikely".

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 11:52 | Link to Comment Neophiliac
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So? Given the Fed's influence on short term interest rates, how likely are they to shoot up and catch the Fed flat-footed?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:06 | Link to Comment e1even1
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if necessary, in his bernanke doctrine speech he indicated he would engage bond-price pegging. the fed can corner treasuries.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 07/30/2009 - 02:39 | Link to Comment jester
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Could you please point to any reading material on that topic?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Hondo
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Dudley is trying to talk up the economy.  Without increase in debt (at the consumer level) or an increase in incomes (not happening) then talking of any statistical quirk in GDP growth is dishonest.  Outside of autos (even here I think it's a push) there is no need to increase inventory build as there is no final demand.  At some point the discussion needs to be away from percentage increase to where the actual level is.  Home sales yesterday is a good example. New SF home sales are still in the bottom 10 percent of all months since January 1963.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 14:28 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:00 | Link to Comment PragmaticIdealist
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Smoke and mirrors. Unbelievable. Well done, Dudley. Well done.

*slow and defeatist clap*

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:00 | Link to Comment ShankyS
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How can you post faster than I can read and process all this shit? Are you human? I am beginning to think you are a operative working for the mysterious "cancer man". 

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:17 | Link to Comment bobby02
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Asset-liability duration mismatch? Naw, couldn't be.

Worked out well for LTCM/Citi/SIV/conduits.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:28 | Link to Comment e1even1
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it was the 100+:1 leverage that killed ltcm. in dudley's "suffice it to say..." comment, in a round about way he's implying low or no leverage.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:34 | Link to Comment DebtorShredder
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Umm...I think you're on the wrong side of the leverage argument.

He's implying infinite leverage.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:43 | Link to Comment PragmaticIdealist
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Naw, he's implying low de facto leverage.

 

Unfortunately, he fails to consider the systemic leverage involved (i.e., printing money to satisfy liabilities has 0 cost to the Fed but instead costs each one of us dearly in various unforeseen ways).

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:50 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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Exactly.  What don't people get about the Fed.  THEY CAN PRINT MONEY!  Their balance sheet is limited only to the extent our creditors don't like them to print money, and so far our creditors are complaining a lot but doing nothing.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 13:09 | Link to Comment texpat
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Don't worry. Our foreign creditors will never call us on this.

lol Good luck with that. Notice how nice we are being to the Chinese. 

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:45 | Link to Comment e1even1
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"In part, that is due to the fact that the balance-sheet risk associated with the interest-rate mismatch is offset to a large degree by the fact that the cost of much of the Fed’s liabilities—the amount of currency outstanding—is zero. So when short-term rates rise, the cost of a significant portion of the Fed’s liabilities is unaffected."

he's implying that these positions are a fraction of the fed's total liabilities. that's low or no leverage.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:57 | Link to Comment DebtorShredder
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Their liability is the currency, which costs them ZERO. No matter what the market charges for money, 1%, 20%, 200%, whatever, their cost is zero. I don't know how else to explain it.

But they are only looking at their situation. As I stated before, the cost to everyone else will be what the market charges. Good for them, bad for everyone else.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:54 | Link to Comment deadhead
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I miss the "Obama short"....i think I hit it 6 or 7 times.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:44 | Link to Comment DebtorShredder
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He did inform us that the happy hour meeting he is holding, discussing race relations, will be serving "Bud Light". Nothing like a little free advertising during a teachable moment.

Gotta love it.....or not.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:22 | Link to Comment rapier
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Not to worry. Say's Law is alive and well in the Treasury market.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:54 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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I think the Chinese have already shown they will bitch and moan and do absolutely nothing about the debt we are running up then inflating away.

Like the old saying goes, when you owe the bank a little money they own you, when you owe them a lot of money, you own them.

The Chinese are our bitch, they know it and we know it.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:57 | Link to Comment deadhead
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I'm glad that you said this ghost....I have been thinking along those same lines as well and feel that i have been alone.  I was a banker for many years and the quote of "...when you owe the bank a little money they own you, when you owe them a lot of money, you own them." rings very true  from my experience.  For those who may doubt it, try being a loan officer with your initials on the deal and it is ready to turn south; it doesn't feel good.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 13:20 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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The Chinese are quietly setting up currency swap facilities around the world (for example, with Brazil).  I think Jim Willie is correct in that the Chinese are preparing to slowly cut the dollar loose over the next several years... it is not in their interest for it to crater all at once, but remember next year (2010) the IMF is re-weighting its basket and the Chinese want a bigger piece of the SDR.

". The Peoples Bank of China has arranged six bilateral currency swaps in large volume. They currently total 650 billion Yuan (=US$95 billion) since December with Malaysia, Argentina, Hong Kong, and several European nations. The facility acts like an Import-Export Bank. Under the arrangements, a counter-party center can lend the Yuan provided by the PBOC to domestic commercial entities toward pay for imports. Chinese exporters are thus paid in their own currency, eliminating exchange rate risks and reducing the cost of fund transfers. Thus the bypass of the US$ in settlements."

Another fact to keep in mind is that Geithner's wife is Chinese, he speaks fluent Chinese, he grew up in Asia and worked for Kissinger and Associates, etc.  The global elites will back stab each other when convenient, but when it comes to their mutual interests they will cooperate as much as possible.

http://financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/willie/2009/0723.html

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 13:38 | Link to Comment bruiserND
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In summary; "We're toast if inflation kicks in"

15 years of abuse to the Treasury's ladder and schedule of long term maturities and its' Primary Dealer infrastructure will break the Fed.
8 years of the "Greenspan put" are coming home to roost .
Equities are a hedge against inflation or debasement .

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 13:44 | Link to Comment assumptionblindness
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Can't the Fed simply hedge their risk by buying some interest rate swaps from JPM or GS?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 13:50 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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I think they already are.  JPM, GS, Treasury, and Fed all work together.  Have a look at this image.

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/kirby/2009/images/0309_clip_image00...

 

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 14:03 | Link to Comment e1even1
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the chart asks "if there is no private demand ....etc"

the answer lies in who is the REAL counterparty to these TBTF's. that, of course is us taxpayers. we're the 'Heads they win, Tails we lose" counterparty.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:22 | Link to Comment Jim_Rockford
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"Can't the Fed simply hedge their risk by buying some interest rate swaps from JPM or GS?"

Brilliant, as long as the taxpayer holds the bag, why not?  Why did you leave out AIG?  They are still in business and paying retention bonuses plus they have an established track record of paying their counterparties at 100 cents on the dollar.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 14:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 17:03 | Link to Comment robbonds
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the ioer is already above eff fed funds...0.25% versus 0.16%..they pay interest on reserves so the fed can still control s-term rates..once they expanded their balance sheet and flooded banks with excess reserves the fed funds rate would have dropped to zero anyway..brilliant move by bernanke..gives him control again over monetary policy...im a fan of bernanke..i think a HUGE risk is if he doesnt get reappointed..if we get some joker that wants to fight (non exsistent) inflation by raising rates then sell every risky asset u have cause we are headed into a depression - assuming we arent in one already...

everything done to this point has been to kick the can down the street.  We will repeat Japan at best...

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 18:58 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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Yeah, fucking brillant, control monetary policy by printing more money.

So a bank has $1 in reserves, but the Fed doesn't want it to lend that $1, so they pay theym 2%.  At the end of the year, the bank now has 1.02, with fractional reserving they have another 20cents in lending capacity.

The Fed doesn't want them to lend, so they increase the rate to 5%.  End of the year, the bank now has 1.071 in reserves.

Fed STILL doesn't want them to lend, so they increase the rate...

Yeah, fucking brilliant.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 19:58 | Link to Comment robbonds
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well they want them to lend - the problem is there arent enough credit worthy borrowers...so there are all these excess reserves just sitting there...if the fed wants them to lend less they will increase the rate..theoretically, if they really wanted them to lend they could charge interest on excess reserves...they would have to go back to congress to get this authority but it is possible...they wont do it for the obvious reason - more bad debt isnt the answer to a mountain of bad debt...thats why we will have slow growth for a decade..it will take atleast that long to slowly write down all the toxic assets.  If the banks wrote them all done today then they would all be insolvant and bankrupt. That is why we did away with mark to market..the banks are hiding their losses in level 3 assets...the fed knows this so they will keep short rates very low to help the banks earn their way out of this situation.  It will happen but it will take a very long time.  this is why inflation is NOT the problem - deflation is!!!

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 20:12 | Link to Comment robbonds
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ghost  - actually if they have 1.02 in excess reserves they can lend out much more..its called the money multiplier...the money multiplier = 1/required reserve ratio..1/.1 = 10..the money multiplier is approx 10..so if there is $800bn in excess reserves then there is $8trn in potential lending...or less because required reserves will go up as they lend money...this is why people are worried about inflation - not because of the 800bn but because of the $8trn...im not worried about inflation because there is no chance in hell that there is 1trn let alone 8trn in credit worthy loans to be made...corporations and consumers are saving and delevering, not looking to borrow.  Deleverging will take many years (consumer debt to gdp is somehting like 375%)..especially with unemployment (U3) headed to 11% and U6 already 16.5% and total unemployment(SS) over 20%...everyone except the federal government is trying to delever - and at the same time..this is a deflationary spiral....the dollar will strengthen since everyone is short dollars..stocks, commodities (oil etc..) and other risky assets will fall significantly before its all over...cash, and high quality bonds will outperform...

ofcourse - ive been wrong before...but rosey said it best "deflation is the fact, inflation is the opinion"

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