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NYSE Experiencing Quote Dissemination "Slowness", Frontrunning HFT Robots Everywhere Switch To Panic Mode

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Robots everywhere are panicking as the NYSE has just announced it is experiencing "slowness" in disseminating trades and quotes. In a casino market now built exclusively for frontrunning the slower order flow, this means that millions of computers are suddenly clueless as to who should be scalped. And if they all move to the rickety BATS exchange en masse, a flash crash may be all but inevitable.

And an update:

The NYSE and NYSE Amex continue to experience slowness disseminating trades and quotes in NYSE, NYSE Amex and NASDAQ-listed symbols through CT/CQ and to the NASDAQ SIP. Market Data over OpenBook is functioning normally. Order and report processing is not affected.

Repairs are underway.

Translation: to all who pay us for premium OpenBook data, congratulations. Everyone else, better luck frontrunning next time.

Update: NYSE gives the all clear - "All NYSE trading systems are functioning normally"

 

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Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:05 | 807879 Rodent Freikorps
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The robots have a union?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:53 | 807994 Cdad
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No, the robots don't have a union.  They have a master.  I expect that the master might be in trouble today...and in coming days. 

If you think back to when this whole "financial collapse" ;) started, this problem in "messaging" is exactly where it started...summer of 2007.

But who cares...right?  The rule of law is so overrated.  Better to go shopping and gossip about the Madoff clan...and/or talk about donuts.

 

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 15:18 | 808849 Problem Is
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Why be ruled by law when you can simply buy the law...

Pass Me My Law, Bitchez...
Politicians can be had on the cheap even with devalued Bennie Bucks...

Are you still going over to Crispy Creme before lunch, Cdad?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:07 | 807892 Apostle of Unknown
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SELL SELL SELL!!!!!!

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:11 | 807907 curbyourrisk
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Just leave the machines on BUY mode.....have breakfast...come back and reap profits.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:10 | 807908 SparkySC
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Enter your trades via DOS

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:11 | 807910 TradingJoe
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There's literally nothing these crooks won't do to screw you out of your money! We may be really needing some sort of mass upheaval, "politics" is dead, to get rid of these leeches!

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 13:31 | 808454 tamboo
Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:11 | 807913 TexDenim
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They need to upgrade their INTEL chips.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:12 | 807914 Id fight Gandhi
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Cnbs is talking about the cold spell in florida. On the pressing issues as usual.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:55 | 808088 moofph
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...update...burnett is eating a donut live...and she's a no dunker.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:14 | 807917 hambone
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Truly sorry to say but looks more like a flash bear crush.

Market flying, debt in Spain suddenly dropping in yield, same for US T's.  Hmmm, almost looks like perpetual money machine at work round and round.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:13 | 807918 kilroy
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Ground control to Major Tom...

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:16 | 807930 mule65
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Fear mongering?  Sad what ZH has become.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:24 | 807968 Boilermaker
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OK, it's still accurate, right?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:41 | 808030 mule65
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What, an inevitable flash crash?  Doesn't look like it.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:44 | 808043 Boilermaker
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Well, that event hasn't occurred.  I was saying that the core information was correct.  The NYSE was experiencing slowness.  ZH simply reported the event.  If you're 'offended' by the conjecture, then go somewhere else.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:45 | 808044 Tyler Durden
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Since you are so concerned about journalistic accuracy, we are happy to remind you that according to the official Flash Crash farce of a report, the main reason for the flash crash, per the far more credible SEC, was due to the shift of broad trading from NYSE to BATS and other exchanges, once the NYSE's LRPs prevented normal trading. The fact that the others were unable to handle traffic is what Schapiro claimed caused the Flash Crash. We are confident this allusion was completely not lost on you.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 13:19 | 808398 mule65
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Implying that "a flash crash may be all but inevitable" isn't journalism.  It's more like the crap you hear from Cramer or Fast Money.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 13:25 | 808435 Boilermaker
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Otherwise known as an opinion and / or a speculative guess.  It was not presented as fact.  You, sir, an idiot.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:33 | 808004 geminiRX
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Is that a quote from days before the dotcom crash?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:17 | 807935 Racer
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Just read something very sad on

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=175045

Someone shot themselves and on facebook wrote...

"My Testament: Some people (the government sponsored media) will say I was evil, a monster (V)... no... I was just born poor in a country where the Wealthy manipulate, use, abuse, and economically enslave 95% of the population. Rich Republicans, Rich Democrats... same-same... rich... they take turns fleecing us... our few dollars... pyramiding the wealth for themselves. The 95%... the us, in US of A, are the neo slaves of the Global South. Our Masters, the Wealthy, do, as they like to us..."

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:21 | 807951 Id fight Gandhi
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Why themselves?

Just a waste

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:24 | 807962 tmosley
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He tried to kill some city council members, but apparently was a bad shot, as per the link.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:29 | 807990 scatterbrains
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actually if you watch the youtube video he tries to take out the entire school board first though he was aim was off a bit.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:11 | 808146 zx12r
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Looking at his facebook list of links, he was a lefty kook

who bought a little too heavily into the class warfare rhetoric

that permeates politics and the media lately.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:18 | 807937 hambone
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This "market" is fucktacular, stufuckingpendus, infuckingcredible.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:21 | 807952 Ese Pinche
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phefuckingnominal as well!

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:19 | 807940 Id fight Gandhi
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I can't get news on this. What are they doing? Can you trust quotes?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:24 | 807963 Boilermaker
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Yea, sure, of course it's legit.  No paper trail, no visibility, quote stuffing, bid cancellations in nano-seconds...

I don't really understand your concerns.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:22 | 807956 the not so migh...
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It was going to go red, but don't worry it was taken care of.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:25 | 807973 Boilermaker
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Did you noticed that also?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:39 | 808027 the not so migh...
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is it me or is it my tin foil hat is too tight..hahahah

 

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:14 | 808160 jus_lite_reading
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Things are about to get much stranger...

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:22 | 807959 Boilermaker
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REITs (IYR, in particular) have started their whipsaw session based on nothingness.

 

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:26 | 807979 goldmiddelfinger
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Damned Waddell & Reed

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:28 | 807985 London Banker
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Simple question:  Who owns NYSE-Euronext?  It's the TBTF banks.

Next question:  Who has the co-located HFT robotraders?  It's the TBTF banks.

Further question:  Who needs the markets to close higher to make their bonus targets?  It's the bankers at the TBTF banks.

One more question:  If the TBTF banks who own NYSE-Euronext decided to tweek the tape publication and the trade matching algorithms to ensure the profitability of their HFT trades, would any regulator (FINRA?  Ha ha ha!  SEC?  duh . . .) ever audit the tapes against the billions of trade inputs/cancellations originating from the HFT servers to figure out the scam?  Does such a capability for audit even exist? 

Just asking . . .

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:25 | 808207 Cdad
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London,

Such question really make criminal bankers on Wall Street uncomfortable.  Really probing questions like yours also make M. Shapiro uncomfortable because she is still having meetings with criminals from the syndicate on Wall Street about which SEC laws she should enforce and which laws to ignore for awhile longer while the roaches crawl out of the SPY...by the infinities. 

But I digress and would suggest that you, perhaps, go shopping or start a blog about Madoff's X wife, or your favorite donuts  ;)

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 14:39 | 808729 Rick64
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You forgot who owns the government and its investigating agencies the TBTFs.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:32 | 808000 Triggernometry
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"I'll get you next time Gadget, next time!!!"

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:33 | 808006 Alex Kintner
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Hmm. Now you gotta wonder if it's equally slow for all. Or some 'paying' customers still get the highest bandwidth for trade execution. I'm lookin at you Goldman. This would be soooo easy to do in software, it just ain't funny. And who's ever gonna know? Guarenteed NYSE is not gonna make their system code available for Wikileaks to digest.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:36 | 808013 Rogerwilco
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We'll soon see who's in control. The 10 year T note is about to drop through the 200 DMA.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:37 | 808017 quasimodo
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Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:37 | 808019 Misean
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Just a funny little thought, but I know a couple of people who work in and around these bots...the guys DO like the money...but they aren't exactly stupid...nor non-ideaological...

T'would be VERY |_337j fu|\|j

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:39 | 808023 Boilermaker
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IYR and the REITs are completely out of control, again, and clotheslining like mad...

What a facade of shit, really.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:42 | 808038 apberusdisvet
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The fat lady is on her way to the auditorium.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:49 | 808066 Stock-Paper-Silver
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On the first read through I read this as...

"The first lady is on her way to the auditorium"

Makes me chuckle either way.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:44 | 808040 A Man without Q...
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I'm not a technical guy, but if the TBTFs were overexposed equities and wanted to sell down without causing too much disturbance, couldn't they route offers through to their dark pools, and claim the slowness for everyone else was owing to technical problems?

There seems to be a concerted effort to bring buyers into the market right now, and it feels hugely overpriced.  Watching Treasury prices, with housing turning down and employment going nowhere - things are utterly absurd....

 

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:50 | 808065 theprofromdover
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Julian, is that you?

 

Smart move, very subtle.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:53 | 808084 Ferg .
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Can anyne explain to me why , after declining why the S&P went parabolic from the open ? It tanked in the last hour of trade yesterday and the decline in futures extended through the Asian session and well into the European session . Today's economic data wasn't that impressive/important .

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:59 | 808104 shushup
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Bernanke has robbed the tax payers in order to create a never ending US bull market through POMO. Those who are trading drank Bernanke's coolaid therefore self fulfilling prophey. Don't forget year end bonuses for the bankers and traders.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:09 | 808140 MGA_1
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And the market keeps going up....

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 13:02 | 808354 Hard1
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If the algos mess it up, isn't it the same probability of a flash crash as the probability of a flash rally?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 13:31 | 808452 TruthInSunshine
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Larry:   Damnit, Jim, I can't get this Goldman Black Box to unfreeze!

Jim:     Well, kick it or something! Do something! There are true two-party bid/asks getting by!

Larry:  Wait, I know; let's freeze everything until we fix this, and we'll blame it on "technical problems" at the exchange!

Jim:    You're brilliant, Larry! That will save us from having to unwind trades with the old 'Fat Finger' excuse that causes us so much grief!

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