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Obama Approves Military Planes In Libya For Evacuation Purposes As Gaddafi Son Says "Bombs Used Only To Frighten Protesters"

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President Obama appeared on TV to give his update statement over Libya: there was little new in it - he repeated his calls for Gaddafi to leave or something to that nature (which Gaddafi already responded to preemptively by saying that "he is not a president so he can not step down"), but most importantly said that he has now approved the use of military jets (thank you Enterprise) for evacuation purposes. Of course, the question of how provocation would be responded to considering there is still no "no fly zone" instituted is merely tempting the hand of fate to immediately retaliate to any provocation. In the meantime, Reuters reports that the Pentagon is now actively monitoring Libyan airspace. Which is to be expected: with the CVN65 Enterprise a day or so away from Tripoli, they would certainly have an active monitoring interest. But the FTW line today belongs to Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam who justified recent bombing raids as follows: "First of all the bombs (were) just to frighten them to go away." It only makes sense that the whole world is now one big tragicomedy.

From Reuters:

The U.S. Defense Department said on Thursday it knows the Libyan government has been using air power but not whether warplanes have attacked rebels fighting to end the 41-year rule of Muammar Gaddafi.

"We have seen very clearly broadcast reports showing effects of air power being used," Pentagon spokesman Colonel David Lapan told reporters.

"Whether or not those were used on rebels, I can't say but ... there is evidence they have used air assets and drop coordinates."

Libya has acknowledged its use of air power, saying strikes are intended to scare off militia fighters and gain control of oil installations in the east.

Witnesses said on Thursday that a warplane for a second day bombed the oil terminal town of Brega, 500 miles (800 km) east of Tripoli, the site of a struggle for control of a strategically vital coastal road and oil industry facilities.

"First of all the bombs (were) just to frighten them to go away," Gaddafi's son, Saif al-Islam, said of the Brega air strike on Britain's Sky News.


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Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:48 | 1015814 Sarah Conner
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Control the skies bitches!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:17 | 1015945 Azannoth
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How many passangers can an F-18 take on board ?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:27 | 1015992 Paul S.
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I wasn't a math major but I think the answer is zero.  Unless you have Dr. Strangelove like ability to hold onto ordnance. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:45 | 1016085 steelhead23
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Get your references straight - Dr. Strangelove might have loved the bomb but it was Major Kong who saddled one up.  What a frickin' masterpiece.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:50 | 1016099 NYPoke
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Ah, Slim Pickens.  Dr. Strangelove & Treasure Island.  One of the best entertainers, ever.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:28 | 1015999 JohnG
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Zero, none, zip......

Wonder if it's planes covering civilian aircraft.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:58 | 1016128 Isotope
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"First of all the bombs (were) just to frighten them to go away,"
Yeah, I imagine you do get frightened right before a bomb blasts you into a thousand fragments.
Then you go away.
Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:04 | 1016152 VegasBD
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I believe the F-18 is full of 7 gram rocks and too busy winning to care.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:27 | 1016243 Myzery
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I'm an F-18, BRO, I will destroy you in the sky and deploy my ordinance.



Fri, 03/04/2011 - 04:02 | 1017815 StychoKiller
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Computer:  "Bomb #20, you're outside the bomb bay again!"

Bomb #20:  "But I received a signal to deploy!"

Computer:  "That signal was an error, please return to the bomb bay."

Bomb #20:  "Okay, but this is the last time!" -- Dark Star



Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:47 | 1015820 alien-IQ
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this should help extend the market rally....because...well...just because.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:57 | 1015862 Oh regional Indian
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That is hilarious alien.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:21 | 1015971 skohiu
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When brown people die, it's bullish for the "markets"  Has always been the case.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:22 | 1015972 skohiu
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When brown people die, it's bullish for the "markets"  Has always been the case.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:48 | 1015827 Oh regional Indian
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Tragi-comic madness. Double Speak Senselessness.

But this too is as per script. Dates are important. And tomorrow or next monday is not the date. remember the Iraq war was launched on March 20th?

Ponder that for a bit.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:53 | 1015850 alien-IQ
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aren't the protests in Saudi Arabia also scheduled for March 20?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:01 | 1015875 Oh regional Indian
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yup. Days of Anger everywhere.

Also happens to be Prince Soon to be King William's birthday. I wonder what present grandma has in store for him.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:16 | 1015949 alien-IQ
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everywhere except America. no anger here...we got i-pads and Charlie Sheen a plenty.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:23 | 1015976 Oh regional Indian
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I predict a charlie sheen app on your iPad in the near future.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:21 | 1015968 Randall Cabot
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March 11 is what I saw.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:00 | 1015877 thetruth
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yes, i would like to know more about important dates

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:06 | 1016162 Randall Cabot
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Here's one: When's the zionist holiday of Purim this year? It's usually in March and the zionists tend to get agressive to celebrate evidently.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:50 | 1015832 AZSovreign
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*Yawn* I'm going back to my distraction of Red Dead Redemption, wake me when thy torch the oil, or we invade...

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:39 | 1016282 PenGun
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Console weinie. ;)

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:09 | 1015837 Mercury
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The release says Obama is authorizing the use of US airplanes to move Egyptians back to Egypt (who fled to the Libyan border).  I would think that the flow of people from Egypt to Libya is pretty much over by now anyway given the whole frying pan/fire thing.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:00 | 1015839 hedgeless_horseman
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"First of all the liquidity bombs (were) just to frighten them into buying the fucking dip," said Brian Sack, lead intern at the FRBNY, regarding POMO on

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:51 | 1015840 dick cheneys ghost
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U.S. operatives have been on the ground for weeks. watch as the MSM paints this as "humanitarian".

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:53 | 1015844 Sudden Debt
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just to frighten them...





now carpet bomb every known house of that family and take over the country.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:55 | 1015853 Dick Darlington
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This easily tops the earlier comedy peak today when Hellenic Railways, 100% state owned wink wink, said they missed a coupon payment on a yen denominated bond because of "human error". At least it wasn't the weather...

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:59 | 1015864 Pants McPants
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To paraphrase George Carlin, how dare the Libyans bomb anyone/anything!  Don't they know that's the US' job??

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:59 | 1015873 NOTW777
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how many innocents die while mr obama fiddles

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:05 | 1015892 NOTW777
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"Bring Bush! Make a no fly zone, bomb the planes," shouted soldier-turned-rebel Nasr Ali, referring to a no-fly zone imposed on Iraq in 1991 by then U.S. President George Bush."

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:00 | 1015880 LawsofPhysics
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I have to ask,  who is paying for the bombs and the fuel?  Certainly, it can't be the United States, they are broke, right?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:00 | 1015881 topcallingtroll
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Using bombs just to frighten is not unusual when you are fighting friends.

We started the war against Noriega in exploding a 1000 bomb fired from a stealth plane. Instead of hitting troop barracks the bomb was intentionally fired at a field between barracks.

Khadaffy's bomb landing in front of the university does sound more like a warning. No casualties were noted in the reports.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:03 | 1015894 Watauga
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As far back as the mid-80s, I read an article that listed the 31 spellings of the name Gaddafi then in use in the English language media.  I wonder how many spellings we are up now?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:12 | 1015922 Sarah Conner
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Only one spelling matters... T-O-A-S-T

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:16 | 1016614 Federalist45
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Good one Sarah Cawna.  

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:03 | 1015895 cougar_w
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The rumor is that the jets are actually Serbian. Strange I know, but must be that the regime saw how the Egyptian army acted and decided it was prudent to outsource. There is evidence that the regime brought in ground forces from Chad as well, black Africans with hard-core urban combat experience.

If it really is the Serbs flying as mercs, then there is no way in fucking Hell they are willing to go up against US fighters, and are already on their way home. It was fun while it lasted, don't forget to pay us in gold m'kay?

The Libyan air force command is largely gone. Some went to Malta. Some defected. They probably cannot launch a credible wing of fighters once the Serbs are out of the picture.

Game over.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:16 | 1015948 TradingJoe
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When it comes to firepower, it really does not matter who we are up against, given the latest crap we are flying there is no real match to our Super-Hornets and dog fighting skills! Its just the usual show me yours and I'll show you mine!


Oil will go higher because it's IN right now, weather they torch the fields or not! Iraq was nice, this on is better, SA will be GREAT! 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:22 | 1015967 cougar_w
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It's almost like a fixed prize fight at this point. We'll all watch, but the outcome is determined.

Including the $150/bbl oil. Though how the economy survives much of that I would really like to know.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:34 | 1016037 Randall Cabot
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Are you making these rumors up yourself?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:09 | 1016171 AnAnonymous
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Propaganda is the most tried job in the Western world. Many want to make a living off it, very few are elected.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:57 | 1016343 cougar_w
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Nope! And the Serbian leadership came out on Serb TV and denied everything, which means it's all likely true.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 22:35 | 1017289 Randall Cabot
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Yeah, you can't believe a word the Serbian leadership says but maybe it was actually  the Slovenian Air Force that Gadaffi called in.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 23:53 | 1017350 Ahmeexnal
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If Mr. Obama tries to engage militarily in Libya, Russia and China will be dragged into this conflict. One has to wonder why Mr. Obama does not try a diplomatic option before turning to the questionable use of force.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:04 | 1015896 jdoo
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scare death!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:07 | 1015900 jus_lite_reading
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Oil at $101pb and the "stock markets" are up 2%? That's the signal the markets are broken.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:07 | 1015904 faithfulwatchman
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Obviously Gadaffi needs a new PR person, hmmm...hey Helen Thomas is available, right?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:52 | 1016100 Shylockracy
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Zionist filth, I junked you.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:07 | 1015907 JimboJammer
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borrow  money  to  buy  fuel  for  planes.

borrow  money  to  pay  the  pilots..

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:11 | 1015923 SilverRhino
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Obama is trying to recreate Reagan's popularity.  

Next up, "New Star Wars" program.



Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:24 | 1016230 Henry Chinaski
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Hardly.  Reagan would not be saying things like this:

"I want us to be making our decisions based on what's going to be best for the Libyan people in consultation with the international community," Obama said.

All of a sudden when Obama needs to make a big decision it's "us."  Who is looking out for what is best for the American people?  Just sayin'.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:12 | 1015926 Pseudo Anonym
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military jets for evacuation purposes

yep. here we go. first order of business: zionist slippers on the ground. evacuating gold from Libya to replenish hofjuden vaults in London.

full disclosure: short gold, long tungsten.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 23:55 | 1017494 Ahmeexnal
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Another JPMorgan/Rockefeller/Vatican lackey.

Somebody ought to carve a swastika on your fat butt.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:14 | 1015936 scatterbrains
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How quickly will we fly over Saudia Arabia when the King is forced to start shooting his peeps ?  Maybe the King should consider sinking one of our carriers on the down low or he'll be next... just saying

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:14 | 1015939 walküre
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Closed my DBO this morning.

When the war is off the table, oil can retract to lower levels. It's still going higher but w/o the imminent threat of a massive supply disruption, the speculators are going to run out of ammo soon.

It was a nice trade while it lasted though!


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:20 | 1015957 TradingJoe
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Nicht so schnell Walküre ein paar Dollar sind noch Drin! :))

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:11 | 1016391 walküre
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Mag sein, der Preisverfall fing gestern nacht in Asien an.

Zugegeben, ze support levelz sind gut! Viel kann übers WE passieren!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:24 | 1015984 Saxxon
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Walkure, you did right imvho.  Oil gold and silver among others will take a massive hit when news comes that MK has left Libya.

Rarely is anything 100%; maybe he stays and fights to his last breath.  Maybe he bombs his own fields.  Neither scenario is more than remotely likely.  He likes the good life and his tens of billions will buy it in exile next to Mubarak.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:14 | 1016402 walküre
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I knew something was not right when his Ukrainian "nurse" left him the other day.

The wild card are potential terrorists that he's funded and got ready to deploy over the weekend.

But at this point, it's more likely he will walk away.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 23:05 | 1017354 YHC-FTSE
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smart. early, but smart.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:16 | 1015942 TruthInSunshine
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In the wake of the Retard-In-Chief's hollow words, the market has gone full retard.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:55 | 1016120 Randall Cabot
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And oil has shot up as well-about a buck and a half to $102!!!

I have a suspician that somebody is going to blow up that oil facility in Brega or somewhere and blame somebody else.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:20 | 1015953 NOTW777
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dont miss daniel gross and cnbc pimping that we sell some of our fort knox gold

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:18 | 1015954 pods
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Oh dude, they were not like even bombs.  I mean, yeah they were, but we weren't trying to kill them.  They are like our children.

Man these ME leaders should move over here.  They would go perfect in Rainbow Unicorn land.

Did he confiscate all the speed for himself?



Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:21 | 1015964 Misean
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Using bombs to send a message...heard that one before...

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:22 | 1015969 Piranhanoia
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Mirage fighters, can be turned off by the French computer GuyGadbois command, we have heard of what 15 that are airborne, a couple have crashed, couple have flown away and the "no fly zone" has to take out all the airpower before they will risk it trying a no fly zone. Do you think they have more than a few that fly?  And that Momo is going to let pilots get in them and fly them away to Al Qaikalidescope?  It all sounds doubleplus good.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:27 | 1016003 TheRagingBull
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So "First of all the mercenaries (were) just to clean up the street."?

I wonder what would happen if the bombs were not to frighten the people, instead, teaching the people how chemistry and physics 101.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:32 | 1016022 scratch_and_sniff
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tragicomedy? more like slapstick.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:32 | 1016023 Randall Cabot
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Military guru Joel Slousen says the Libs have superduper Russian SAMs that will wreak havoc on US fighter bombers.

Remember Reagan bombed Gadaffi's tent and he is still pissed about that. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:51 | 1016095 The Phu
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Sounds like a first wave of F-117s and B-2s with some HARMs strapped on are in order.  Then come the nuke-tipped bunker busters.  Giggity!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:37 | 1016050 JR
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The Protocols of the Learned Elders of OPEC : The latest neocon nonsense: those Ay-rabs are behind the financial collapse by Justin Raimondo, March 02, 2011

The latest neocon nonsense: those Ay-rabs are behind the financial collapse.

So, you thought the economic crisis we are currently experiencing was caused by loose monetary policy, loose economic regulation, or just plain loose morals by the likes of Goldman Sachs and associated plutocrats?


It was really all part of a nefarious plot by Ay-rab terrorists – and now we’re heading for “phase three”! The Washington Times (who else?) “reports”:

“Evidence outlined in a Pentagon contractor report suggests that financial subversion carried out by unknown parties, such as terrorists or hostile nations, contributed to the 2008 economic crash by covertly using vulnerabilities in the U.S. financial system.

“The unclassified 2009 report “Economic Warfare: Risks and Responses” by financial analyst Kevin D. Freeman, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Times, states that ‘a three-phased attack was planned and is in the process against the United States economy.’

“While economic analysts and a final report from the federal government’s Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission blame the crash on such economic factors as high-risk mortgage lending practices and poor federal regulation and supervision, the Pentagon contractor adds a new element: ‘outside forces,’ a factor the commission did not examine.

“’There is sufficient justification to question whether outside forces triggered, capitalized upon or magnified the economic difficulties of 2008,’ the report says, explaining that those domestic economic factors would have caused a ‘normal downturn’ but not the ‘near collapse’ of the global economic system that took place.”


Well, this sounds plausible enough: after all, there’s no reason why we can’t keep spending money we don’t have – any suggestion to the contrary is unpatriotic and probably motivated by support for terrorism.

The housing bubble, no-money-down loans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac holding multi-billions in bad loans and other “toxic assets”? That’s not profligacy – it’s the Amurrican Dream, boy! And to suggest otherwise is … hey, what are you, some kind of Communist?

According to this report, paid for by the Pentagon and “declassified” so that Washington Times “national security expert” Bill Gertz could hyperventilate over it, the uptick in oil prices is also part of an Ay-rab plot. The Pentagon “study,” authored by one Kevin D. Freeman, cites neocon nutball Walid Phares, a Christian Falangist of Lebanese extraction and paid propagandist for the Israeli-connected Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, who avers:

“According to Political Economy assessment [sic], there may have been a third player in the crisis: OPEC, or more precisely, radical circles within Oil Producing regimes in the Peninsula. The thesis argue that combined Salafist-Wahhabi and Muslim Brotherhood circles in the Gulf -with consent from the Iranian side on this particular issue, used the escalating pricing of Oil over the past year to push the financial crisis in the US over the cliff.”

Aha! The long arm of the Muslim Brotherhood strikes again! Boy oh boy, the Brothers sure have been busy lately: first we find out they were really behind the Egyptian revolution and the overthrow of US-supported dictator Hosni Mubarak. Then we detect their nefarious influence in all the other revolts taking place across the Middle East. And now this! I also have my suspicions about their involvement in the spate of cold weather we’ve been having here in the US, but that will have to await confirmation until Freeman consults the proper omens. Meanwhile, “Dr.” Phares continues on in the same deranged vein:

And there’s MUCH MUCH MORE – whatta writer…

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:13 | 1016189 AnAnonymous
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Never waste a crisis: these guys will get an extension in funding, all provided by newly emitted credits, everyone will be happy.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:45 | 1016077 buzzsaw99
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This smacks of a Carter era operation.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:52 | 1016106 citta vritti
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Is FTW same as WTF?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:05 | 1016149 carbonmutant
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 Apparently bombing protesters into submission is good for the Global economy...

Especially if you apologize...

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:30 | 1016252 Hannibal
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Bombs made in America!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:02 | 1016370 alangreedspank
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I'll bet the US Army will take offense at Gaddafi striking against rebels, but once they'll invade the country, the rebels will magically become the bad guys.

Oh the hypocrisy.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:12 | 1016395 Drag Racer
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why do I get the feeling this will be a 'Dirty Harry' moment...

Go ahead, make my day...

Generals are just asking for an excuse to unleash the beast.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:50 | 1016525 falak pema
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The argument in ZH always comes back to the heart issues which concern the average US investor : What will this do to my portfolio in Ag, Au, $, stocks or bonds. While this is a perfectly reasonable and understandable concern, it cannot be the crux of the matter for determining/debating geo political issues. There are other criteria for this : value systems, historical reference, strategic concerns. But the pervasive influence of the last thirty years now has most people thinking in 'casino royal' terms. The system now runs the minds of its people who have become pavlovian in their knee jerks. Headless chickens...are a condemned race heading for the cooking pot. The mindset is our most precious possession, our last realm of freedom... 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:22 | 1016863 steelhead23
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Falak,  Nice post.  The system creates the players and the winners defend the system - the rest of us have been brainwashed into believing that there is no 'alternative system'.  Sad thing is, even if the proles win and cast off the likes of Qadafi, et al., the system would remain protected and the outcome would be more of the same.  Its enough to make a player cash in his chips, head for Costa Rica, and spend the remainder of his days debating the fine points of premium tequila.

Fri, 03/04/2011 - 08:36 | 1017951 falak pema
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Yep, you hav to be a true "prole" to really want/have to revolt. "Les Miserables" was not written about people who could take the boat to Costa Rica. The irony of life is they couldn't afford to buy it. Those who could go to Costa Rica and probably did, read it....says it all about the class war and who always comes out on top. The Costa Ricans?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:45 | 1016719 Ratscam
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hey guys the false flag event is still missing. what could it be? lets brainstorm a bit.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:21 | 1016861 serotonindumptruck
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When you say "false flag", I think "military pretext". I can think of several possible scenarios, however they would probably qualify as first strike initiatives, and would likely result in a global thermonuclear exchange.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:26 | 1016886 toto
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This time the false flag is gaddafi himself.

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