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Obama Begins "Lifestyle Health Modification" Program, Mandating Behavioural Changes Within US Society
Last week, with little fanfare, among the ever deteriorating oil spill crisis, the White House quietly noted the issuance of an executive order "Establishing the National Prevention, Health Promotion, and Public Health Council", in which the president, citing the “authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America” is now actively engaging in "lifestyle behavior modification" for American citizens that do not exhibit "healthy behavior." At least initially, the 8 main verticals of focus will include: smoking cessation; proper nutrition; appropriate exercise; mental health; behavioral health; sedentary behavior; substance-use disorder; and domestic violence screenings. Eventually we fully anticipate that the program will also target such wholesome activities as screening for precious metal holdings, monthly minimum usage of available revolving credit (and a minimum threshold thereto) and the susceptibility of an individual to stay current on one's mortgage. Additionally, the president will establish yet another Advisory Group, composed of "experts" picked from the public health field, and one which tracks the successful uptake by the US population of the precepts for a better functioning society that the president deems important. Cosmo culture has just been adopted by the White House, where Big Brother is now in the business of counting calories, and soon, your bars of gold.
From the Executive Order, defining the duties of the Council:
Sec. 3. Purposes and Duties. The Council shall:
(a) provide coordination and leadership at the Federal level, and among all executive departments and agencies, with respect to prevention, wellness, and health promotion practices, the public health system, and integrative health care in the United States;
(b) develop, after obtaining input from relevant stakeholders, a national prevention, health promotion, public health, and integrative health-care strategy that incorporates the most effective and achievable means of improving the health status of Americans and reducing the incidence of preventable illness and disability in the United States, as further described in section 5 of this order;
(c) provide recommendations to the President and the Congress concerning the most pressing health issues confronting the United States and changes in Federal policy to achieve national wellness, health promotion, and public health goals, including the reduction of tobacco use, sedentary behavior, and poor nutrition;
(d) consider and propose evidence-based models, policies, and innovative approaches for the promotion of transformative models of prevention, integrative health, and public health on individual and community levels across the United States;
(e) establish processes for continual public input, including input from State, regional, and local leadership communities and other relevant stakeholders, including Indian tribes and tribal organizations;
(f) submit the reports required by section 6 of this order; and
(g) carry out such other activities as are determined appropriate by the President.
For some reason item (g) seems supiciously similar to the Goldman Sachs ethics waiver.
For a slightly less politically correct and slightly truthier interpretation of this latest invasion into individual privacy, Nanny State has the following opinion:
Whether you are a child, a parent, a worker, or retired, the President’s approximately 25-member “Advisory Group” will soon be present in every aspect of Americans’ lives, as the Executive Order prescribes. Specifically, our new so-called lifestyle behavior modification advisors will be actively carrying out the President’s orders in:
- worksite health promotion;
- community services, including community health centers;
- preventive medicine;
- health coaching;
- public health education;
- geriatrics; and
- rehabilitation medicine.
President Obama’s sweeping plan to enforce “lifestyle behavior modification” is chock full of open-ended target areas, especially when it comes to issues of “mental” and “behavioral” health, “proper nutrition,” “sedentary behavior,” and “appropriate exercise.” The President’s Executive Order is a blatant and forceful attempt to adjust the way Americans young and old think, behave, eat, drink and whatever else free will used to entitle our nation’s citizens to enjoy as prescribed by the Founding Fathers.
If you are feeling stressed-out, sad, confused, hungry, thirsty, bored, or tired, do you honestly trust President Obama and his “Advisory Group” to act in your best interests?
Way to go Rahm: yet another unprecedented ecological crisis used skillfully by the administration to pass a covert and some would say unconstitutional executive order. On the other hand, we asked some time ago just what is the constitution to a constitutional law professor? Gradually every person in America is starting to understand the very unpleasant answer to that question. Tangentially, we wonder if the president and the head of the House Financial Services Committee have kicked their respective tobacco/KFC habits yet.
h/t John
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Tell me, when you wake up tomorrow morning, will you decide that posting on zero hedge is bad for everyone's mental health? It's perfectly consistent with the Executive Order and with your post.
and where exactly does it stop? Some would suggest that reading certain publications can a have an unfavorable impact on both lifestyle and soceity.
You are correct that there are a lot of fat miserable yanks stuffing themselves with Twinkies, Big Macs and washing it down with Red Bull. 7 or 10 years from now when you are en route to the emergency it may well be that one of those fat slobs is ahead of you in the queue. Alternatively 7 or 10 years from now you won't be reading a blog such as this because someone deemed it to be contrary to the best interests of society.
Free treatment...AIN'T NO SUCH THING BOY! Goddamn I used to be tolerant of idiots but being tolerant got Captain Kickass into the White House.
The effects of bad diet and overeating in children are well understood, in terms of performance in schools, attention spans, emotional disorders etc etc. I hate the idea of big government as much as anyone, but there comes a time when somebody has to step in take control. Under the current situation, many Americans are already controlled by the big food industry and it is making them fat and miserable, they just can't see it.
You know diddly about what causes obesity. And you know squat about children...so you know diddly and squat about the subject at hand be very quiet, stay away from sharp objects and go sit down.
Overeating causes weight gain? Really? You sure? Is there any coincidence in the fact that once the government got involved in our diet folks started gaining weight? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4362041487661765149#
Now let me close by saying this....EVEN if having the government run my fucking life would double it I would reject it. It is my life. I will make decisions.
There is no single universal cause of obesity, but there are some pretty well understood factors that exacerbate it. When it comes to diet, it is not the quantity of food, but rather the quality of food, especially what is consumed by children in years 3 - 5. High concentrations of saturated fats and sugars in the diet during these years create a higher number of fat cells, but also to some degree fix the rate at which fatty acids are converted to triglycerides. This does not mean the child will be obese, especially if the child is very active, but it means the person will in adulthood have a much greater chance of becoming obese later in life.
As for the effect on performance in schools, it is clearly proven than children who have a healthier diet will achieve better results in tests and have far better attention spans, owing to more stable energy levels.
The coincidence with the increase in obesity is the emergence of palm oil and high fructose corn syrup as ingredients in many fast and convenience foods. As an example, the number of calories in a large portion of McDonald's fries was 200 in 1960 and 610 today, i.e. it has tripled in 50 years.
As for your closing argument, you only seem to see things in binary terms. The big food corporations have a stranglehold on Americans' diets, but you "choose" to go to McDonalds or Wendy's (this is a false choice and a false freedom) but the government forcing those who receive Medicare or Medicaid for obesity related illnesses that they must improve diet and do exercise is evil tyranny? Well, this means big business is winning their battle and you are a perfect victim, someone so stupid you would prefer to lose half your life than do what the government tells you, but are in fact totally owned by the commercial interests that are shortening your life through the products they sell.
Yes it is evil tyranny and I don't expect you to get it since you apparently miss your parents telling you how to live. I do not. The founding fathers went to war for less.
Provide your citations for the nonsense about saturated fats.
Gary Taubes on Saturated Fat
These trials are fundamentally tests of the hypothesis that saturated fat is bad for cholesterol and bad for the heart. They’re not just about which diet works best for weight loss or is healthiest, but what constitutes a healthy diet, period. (This is the point I made in my Times Magazine story six years ago). Specifically, these low-fat/low-carb diet trials, of which there are now more than half a dozen, test American Heart Association (A.H.A.) relatively low-fat diets against Atkins-like high-saturated-fat diets.
In this last test, the A.H.A. diet was about 30 percent calories from fat, less than 10 percent calories from saturated fat; the low-carb diet was almost 40 percent calories from fat, around 12.5 percent saturated fat. In this particular trial, as in all of them so far, the high-saturated-fat diet (low-carb or Atkins-like) resulted in the best improvement in cholesterol profile — total cholesterol/H.D.L. In this Israeli trial, the high-saturated-fat diet reduced L.D.L. at least as well as the did the A.H.A. relatively low-fat diet, the fundamental purpose of which is to lower L.D.L. by reducing the saturated fat content.
So here’s the simple question and the point: how can saturated fat be bad for us if a high saturated fat diet lowers L.D.L. at least as well as a diet that has 20 to 25 percent less saturated fat?
It could be argued (and probably will be) that the effect of the saturated fat is confounded by the reduction in calories, but the A.H.A. diet also reduces calories and in fact specifies caloric reduction while the low-carb diet does not. It will also be argued, as Dean Ornish does, that the source of the saturated fat was not necessarily meat or bacon, but beans or other healthy sources.
But the nutritional reason why meat has been vilified over the years, is that it’s a source of unhealthy saturated fat. It’s not that meat per se is bad — unless you buy the colon cancer evidence, which has always seemed dubious — it’s that the saturated fat in meat makes it bad. So the argument about the source of the saturated fat is irrelevant.
The question hinges on whether saturated fat raises cholesterol and causes heart disease. One way or the other this trial is a test of that hypothesis. It’s arguably the best such trial ever done and the most rigorous. To me that’s always been the story. If saturated fat is bad for us, then these trials should demonstrate it. They imply the opposite.
Why does the A.H.A. continue to insist that saturated fat should be avoided, if these trials repeatedly show that high saturated fat diets lead to better cholesterol profiles than low-saturated fat diets? And how many of these trials have to be done before the National Institutes of Health or some other august institution in this business re-assesses this question? After all, the reason the food guide pyramid suggests we eat things like butter and lard and meats sparingly (and puts them high up in the pyramid) is that they contain saturated fat. This is also the reason that the A.H.A. wants to lower even further what’s considered the safe limit for saturated fats in the diet.
500 trillion in derivatives but our economy died because of homeloans and its our fault. Right
So the food giants, mosanto, burger king bear no resposibilty, its all the fault of the eaters.
Chemtrails and the effects of barium and aluminum is our fault too. Oh sure
No it died because we allowed government to become too powerful and we believed these clowns when they declared they "KNEW" what they were doing in controlling it...after all the fuckers had Harvard degrees.
Those derivatives exist because of the guarantees of our government. The government guarantees to their buddies that they will send a SWAT team to my house to get my money if I should object to buying another penthouse for Bankers.
once an insurance company told me i was a health risk cause i was too skinny, compared to my height. fuck you, i hate food.
A Man,
Scuse me?.
"Overeating is not a physical problem but it is a mental one, and it becomes a physical one only later."
Ummmmmmmm..........this is a crock, many cases of obesity, and being over weight are glandular/genetics,and neither fall into your categories.
"Big Brother is now in the business of counting calories, and soon, your bars of gold."
Counting his own produced Tungsten- induced anorexia
If the government wanted to invest in fitness centers like the YMCA for example , a place where citizens can freely chose to improve health fitness and have available literature on healthy diets etc. Than this government involment in health of it's citizens would be responsible policy. But what we have here may go far beyond the prinipals of a YMCA.
They've already upgraded the playgrounds at two schools within 3 miles of my house. We use them.
The YMCA actually gets a lot of grants.
Even though I'm an anti-statist, I've been a YMCA member of some kind or another for most of my life. There's really no escaping the state anywhere you go, but they do great work providing superb facilities to the poor, lower middle class, and even the wealthy.
It's a really great example of a successful health nonprofit.
IF you chose to go, great.............your tax dollars paid for it...
Forced?.
Screw THEM.
"...deemed appropriate by the President"? What the fuck makes him an expert on anything, let alone competent to issue diktats regarding matters that the government has no business minding? The Legislatture makes the laws and the President either signs them into law or vetoes them. Period.
I think it's about time we stripped the President of this "Executive Order" nonsense. Who or what ever gave him this authority in the first place? It's certainly not in the Constitution, though as with every other abusive government "power" it was derived from some cheap political hack's creative interpretation.
Better yet, let's revoke the charter of the entire government and start over. This one is obviously way past its sell date. The stench is unbearable.
I am Chumbawamba.
A fucking men!
+1 Chumb. Despite all the reasons for and against, the constant trashing of the constitution is the root of the problem. We need another Jefferson preaching smaller, less intrusive government.
Chumb,
I have been screaming for over a year for a Con Con, shut this WHOLE fkin mess DOWN.
The states can do it, NO ONE can stop it..............38 states, delegates states pick, take away WPA, and EO's,PDD's, and remove a few AMENDMENTS..............
Back to where we should be..............
One thing I know, our TROOPS are not fighting and dying, coming home is pieces for THIS SHIT!.
+$1225
We'll soon be starting over anyway. Either Israel will start it, the GoM disaster will do it, a CRASH in the markets, Katka, Obama declares Martial Law, Cumbre Vieja dumps its load into the Atlantic, etc., etc.
We have already gone over the Falls, we are about to hit bottom.
Let's hope it's a "good" SHTF (Depression v 2.0 or similar) rather than the "bad" one (MadMax or The Road).
I am at the point where I just say, let's just get it over with, almost doesn't matter who or why. Bring it down and mark it to zero.
I am bearing gold, but not a golden bearing.
Don't you see? The only way to deny away a Depression is to turn to fascism. Won't matter if it's Democratic fascism or Republican fascism. Centralized authority will determine wages, prices, work hours, production quotas and national business priorities (approved and industries and services). Healthcare practices and allocation of healthcare to individuals will vary according to adherence with approved "Lifestyle Health Modifications". If you can't document 6 hours of exercise per week at an approved Lifestyle Health Modification Promotion Center (LHMPC), and monthly monitoring of total body mass index and body fat percentage then you may not be eligible for health insurance without surcharges. To protest these changes, please proceed to the Bureau of Secret Police.
CE, you are right on time, brother.
CE,
Me and a lot of Homey's won't be participating in any Fascism.......anyone who volunarily gives in to this type of Gv't is not an American.
"The only way to deny away a Depression is to turn to fascism"
one of the most profound sentences i've read in quite a long time.
Americans should undoubtedly be free to be amongst the least healthy people on the planet. American companies must be left alone to manipulate their customers in any way they see fit, unfettered by any government attempting to put their citizens on a remotely equal footing.
The whole processed food industry in the US from ConAgra to Cargill, from Coke to Kelloggs etc should be charged with assault, assault on the health of a nation. Billions are spent trying to figure out how to get consumers to buy shit over real food. Not quite a fair contest.
You know I used to want to be civil to dumbasses like you but lately I have decided that you people are just too dangerous. Listen up wannabe slaveboy, Kelloggs doesn't have guns...the government has guns. When choosing between who I am most scared of I always pick the fuckers with the guns...guns are a LOT more hazardous to my health thatn fucking Cheerios. That I have to point that out to you speaks volumes to your view of history.
I have free will and the ability to educate myself as to what is good for me. I will not give up my free will because some group of assholes, mistreated as children with bad genetic material to boot wants to make everyone in the world as miserable as they are by controlling them. What is next these pricks demanding that I have enemas every day to clean out?
In the end EVEN IF the government controlling my life gave me x more years of life to live I would reject it. I would rather live free for a shorter period of time than as a lab rate for a longer period of time.
Your thinking is muddled. Kelloggs 'aims' the government's guns. Why do you think this is an executive order and not a law?
Yes so disarm the government, get rid of the people in the government who come up with dumbshit like telling me to eat more of this or that and to not smoke this or that. That disarms the ability of corporations to go to the government to screw over competitors. But the bad guy has been and always will be the government.
I agree with both of you but the difference is the government is supposed to work for us, but instead they support the corporations. The corporations are trying to make a profit which is legal. The power is in the hands of the citizens they just don't care or realize it. If we boycotted one of these products they would either go out of business or cater to what we wanted. The people are sending the message right now that unhealthy products is what we want.
Pierre, last week I saw a bumper sticker which said "Teddy Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun". Funny, but true. I know lots of gun owners and I don't worry about them. However, when it comes to this government I'm worried...
"I would rather live free for a shorter period of time than as a lab rate for a longer period of time."
Well said my brother-in-freedom. +1000
"I would rather live free for a shorter period of time than as a lab rate for a longer period of time."
Unless I could be the rat that was used for those "orgasm" experiments. You know, the one where they wired the rat up so it could have an orgasm by pressing a button. He died from over-exhaustion. That seems like a good way to go.
N O > tell me more.
Well ok that might be better than living free...
Looky here we got a Freedom lover and a tough guy, a rare combination indeed!
You are a slave, to one thing or another, you may not want to admit it, and your defense mechanisms are causing you to lash out and not be civil.
This sounds to me like what Arnold did when he was younger and fitter, encourage healthy food and behavior.
The government is not going to force you to have enemas at gun point. Though I bet youd like that wouldn't you?
I am not a slave to anything. I am sorry that your life is so miserable that you believe the rest of us are as miserable.
Well said sir.
+10,000!
Bill Wilson, thank you, that hit the spot.
the most frightening thing about this IMO is the provision regarding "mental health"...
Don't forget "Excessive Blog Postings" and "Unhealthy Complaining about authority figures".
I have already seen this practiced on employees at a County Health Department. Question authorities too much, you have "mental problems" and you are ordet to "go see our contracted mental health provider" to "Learn how to deal with your emotions in the work place". Eventually over 50% of the people in one department had to go, or, lose their jobs. For questioning the boss (an incompetent boss btw). This shit already happens. Now it will be codified.
"One flew east, one flew west, one flew over the cuckcoo's nest" Nurse Ratchet is watching you.
Oh no! Not Nurse Ratchet! Now I AM scared!
Interesting that you should bring that up.
I had never heard of this person until he did an interview with Lew Rockwell entitled "Psychiatry as an Arm of the State". The podcast is fascinating to say the least. Dr. Szasz basically suggests that what is called psychiatry is just a politically correct way to deal with people and their behaviors that people don't like. I've had his book on my wishlist for awhile, but Zerohedge keeps posting all of this captivating shit.
http://www.amazon.com/Psychiatry-Science-Lies-Thomas-Szasz/dp/0815609108...
Read his stuff, it's extremely worthwhile.
You can get a general idea from his essays:
http://www.szasz.com/
He was instrumental in normalizing homosexuality, which was - until recently - termed a mental illness.
Anti-statism is heresy and mental illness according to our rulers.
Hey, doesn't Bushbama smoke?
And when is the last time Charlie Rangel saw his toes, and how many chins does Barney Frank have?
Like most other laws.....doesn't apply to congress.........
"how many chins does Barney Frank have?"
How many Chin's does a Chinese phone book have? (bah dah bah)
".... and the land of the free, and.the.hoooooome.of.daaaa.braaaaaave....."
".... and the land of the sheep, and.the.hoooooome.of.daaaa.slaaaaaave....."
LMAO
America is only coming into realization of what the rest of the World knew since, oh, 1820 or something like that.
"Welcome to the Desert of the Real" America. Your isolation is now officially over.
It's T minus Zero......We are in for a rude awakening.
LMAO
LOL. Right on the money.
what are you laughing at? I read your UK papers every day
Gov pays fat people to lose weight, but no money for cancer patients
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1118084/Dying-patients-denied-drugs-obese-425-NHS-diet.html
fat police at work
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1181249/So-wheres-fat-Mother-sent-warning-letter-health-police-say-son-just-1lb-overweight.html
nothing but spare parts for the system
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265163/Organs-removed-dead-patients-consent-NHS-blunder.html
and my personal favorite: gov panel to design bar glasses to reduce treatment injury costs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1208668/Time-called-traditional-pint-glass-Home-Office-demand-safer-design-reduce-assaults.html
Once your medical costs becomes the governments business, they have the excuse to control every aspect of your life.
Free band-aids or freedom? which is it?
You, sir, are a fucking idiot.
For the quadrillionth time; IM NOT FUCKING ENGLISH; so I have no idea why you list me the examples of what is happening in England [UK] when I have absolutely no connection to said country.
Properly stated, my good man. Care for some tea, chap?
Cheeky, you rule brau!
@ mr.bob
In case the remark was meant for me kind Sir ..... I'm not as eloquent as Mr. Bastard but his statement is also highly applicable to my situation.
It's quite obvious what you have been taught at school when it comes to maths
People who can read and write English = UK
UK = Europe
LMAO
"For the quadrillionth time...", then apparently this is an ongoing problem for you. In the past you have made references to conducting business out of that country. I did not realize it was such an insult to be associated with that nationality. You could be in Siberia, the Sinai, Atlanta, or Timbuktu. Who cares? Does it really matter on the internet? If being taken for English distresses you so much, perhaps you should review what about your writing causes people to think that.
Statists are taking control of the world and the stories are still examples of what to look forward to.
LOL. I don't know how that rumor got started but its funny.
He is confused by your Heath Ledger looking av. We will forgive the fact that Ledger is Australian...
I cannot believe some of the agreeable responses to this outrageous power grab! The potential for abuse when the government controls every aspect of our lifestyles is HUGE! Healthy is good. The government mandating healthy is BAD! They are out to control EVERY aspect of your life as this spider web grows exponentially over the years.
You may not smoke. So you don't care if they control smoking.
You may not be overweight, so you don't care if they mandate mandatory exercise classes.
You may not have high blood pressure, so you don't care if they restrict your alcohol intake.
You may hate french fries, so you don't care if they restrict the sale of french fries.
At what point will they gore YOUR ox and get you to take notice?
Give me liberty or give me death! Dont give me government control, of anything!
I fear for this country like never before.
Watch it, pal. Those be AMERICAN Fries.
Hold on, I have to call the president and ask him I should have for lunch- goverment queerios you don't eat them they eat you
Another H1N1 vaccine with a tall glass of flouride to wash it down. You may breathe in the chemtrails for dessert!
Gee whiz! Now that I had that vaccine, I want to do as I'm told BAH, BAH, BAH. Mutton here 2 c
Day taken away my right to be a fatass!
Day commin for are gunz and bibles next Yall!
Dey spendin out of control, and they aint killin enough of dem darkies overseas!
The anti-Christ is here!
I bet he's promoting sea food from the gulf! lol
after chernobl, russia bought up all the contaminated seafood, from neighboring countries, and fed it to their own people
Robust good health for everybody is surely a worthy social goal, but wouldn't it make more sense to pursue it through individual doctors educating their patients about health issues and steering them towards appropriate voluntary programs? When government butts into the doctor-patient relationship, no matter how benign its stated intentions, we're headed for the slippery slope where nannyism morphs into Big Brotherism, and suddenly everything not prohibited is mandatory.
LMAO!! The preznit-man is a smoker.
++++ "LMAO!! The preznit-man is a smoker."
And 95% of politicians are fat and out of shape.
True story Rick64, I have to tell this after that comment. I was at a huge public health conference about 7yrs ago. The keynote address was about how to get people to eat healthier that morning. The room was mostly doctors, nurses and public health administrators. 95% obese, the refreshments were donuts, foofoo coffee, processed foods to the max. They were seriously discussing how to force people to "eat right". They weren't too happy when I started laughing and then told them why I was laughing.
The President takes a leadership role to address serious health issues resulting primarily from Corporate America's desire for profit, regardless of negative health implications, and it's described as fascism? Didn't know you were a Beck fan Tyler!
Perhaps some of you should take a closer look at McDonald's lineup some time... it isn't pretty, and it's getting worse... world obesity figures below... USA, USA, USA!
Rank Countries Amount # 1 United States: 30.6% # 2 Mexico: 24.2% # 3 United Kingdom: 23% # 4 Slovakia: 22.4% # 5 Greece: 21.9% # 6 Australia: 21.7% # 7 New Zealand: 20.9% # 8 Hungary: 18.8% # 9 Luxembourg: 18.4% # 10 Czech Republic: 14.8% # 11 Canada: 14.3% # 12 Spain: 13.1% # 13 Ireland: 13% # 14 Germany: 12.9% = 15 Portugal: 12.8% = 15 Finland: 12.8% # 17 Iceland: 12.4% # 18 Turkey: 12% # 19 Belgium: 11.7% # 20 Netherlands: 10% # 21 Sweden: 9.7% # 22 Denmark: 9.5% # 23 France: 9.4% # 24 Austria: 9.1% # 25 Italy: 8.5% # 26 Norway: 8.3% # 27 Switzerland: 7.7% = 28 Japan: 3.2% = 28 Korea, South: 3.2%Why doesn't he take a leadership role in banning high fructose corn syrup and fast food restaurants?
I am Chumbawamba.
Couldn't agree more chumba, but I believe these (and other) actions are implicit in the order.
I'm well aware that you are smart enough to understand the power the food lobby would wield against such a "straight on" assault (as you suggest) on their profits though... so hey, it's a start isn't it!
No, it's not a start, god damn it, it's the end...of our Constitutional Republic.
If you want to live under this regime then that's your choice. I'm checking out.
I am Chumbawamba.
Cya!
Really... I believe that happened some time ago, a few days before Christmas of 1913 to be exact!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-70668650671711857#docid=-915028560645767288
Or why don't they just get rid of the sugar import bans from Cuba?
"Why doesn't he take a leadership role in banning high fructose corn syrup and fast food restaurants?"
Why doesn't he quit his Kobe beef addiction?
Riddles, mysteries, enigmas..Kobe beef for me and not for thee...LOL.
Look at that... all the PIIGS are on that list. No wonder they're fat... they're piigs!
OK by me if it keeps that tub-o-lard, stinky humanoid off the plane or makes her buy two seats.
My guns are an unhealthy lifestyle too, if they are worried about their health when they try and pry anything out of my fingers.
SIZE 8
Nice. :)
Ron Paul 2008 is the bumper sticker still on the rear window of my truck...However...I have added the following banner: Now Who Threw Away His/Her Vote?
He has my vote.
It's not what you eat, it's the quality of what you eat and the quality of life you live:
http://seniors-health-medicare.suite101.com/article.cfm/worlds-oldest-pe...
Precisely!
This could not be regulated because I could eat 1 cheeseburger, 1 twinkie, and have 2 sodas every single day and still lose weight.
My great grandmother, who lived til 110, smoked, drank, made her own bread daily until she was 70, ate every unhealthy, fatty food you could think of and at age 92 was still hauling around 100lb pots of her geraniums and climbing 3 story ladders to clean out her gutters would agree with you. My other great grandmother, lived to 82, ate high cholesterol foods and gardened all her life. Both healthy as oxen all their lives. I think it was the gardening that kept them alive so long. So, as much as I am enjoying this thread, I must get back to my garden. I am turning computer off now......
kali, in case you missed this gem that GW shared a couple weeks back:
http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/raw-data-is-dirt-the-new-prozac/
smoking cessation is one of the goals. i thought obama still smoked newports?
Interesting. They will try to force us to live a healthy lifestyle, while ADM and the agri-business and ag-chem lobbies ensure EVERYTHING you can possibly eat is loaded with high fructose corn syrup, genetically modified lifeforms, herbicides, pesticides and all kinds of crap.
They also endorse low-fat as the dietary preference, when it's not the fat, but the carbs and fructose that's caused the obesity crisis. What do they put in when they remove the fat?
Then...then...we have the Dept of Agriculture trying to ensure organic companies cannot label their products as having no GMOs in them. And, guys like John McCain trying to kill the natural foods and supplements business.
I feel like Elvis...We're caught in a trap...I can't walk out.
Stop being logical.
C'mon! Take your aspartame like a man!
Great points....we live in some perverted corporatocracy where every problem can be fixed with a 1,000 page bill that the Congress critters don't read.
George HayDuke.....
Damn right! and the yare trying to change the definition of organic so they can seel people the same crap & charge more for it b/c "its organic"...
I shop mostly at the local farmers market and put in a graden recently. We used to "can" tomatoes for the whole year off of our bumper crop. I see teh gov't now forming the parameters of a "garden tax". fuckers!
ATTENTION! Elvis has left the building!
When I was in Colombia, a few years ago - I was told to find the fattest person in your group, and try to have them sit next to you - in a way that they are on the side of you that is closest to the middle of the road. In the most common scenario, shooters will come from behind your vehicle- passing you and firing into the vehicle. It ain't over, until The Fat Lady gets raked with an AK. That's the way it was explained to me. Are you gonna eat those fries?
macktheknife
you really live up to your nickname. Mack "The Fucking" Knife.
You'll need your knife Mack to cut your way out if the car flips over and you end up underneath your human body armor!
Lucky; Mack The Knife is what The Street nicknamed John Mack [former CEO of MS]. It really bears only similarities to Macks persona and nothing else.
Thanks for letting me in on that part of the joke. I am still thinking that the idea of sitting next to someone obese could save or doom you depending on the specific emergency.
FYI, my name is very suitable for this site. I wondered here by link and have absolutely nothing financially brilliant to offer you guys. I am a lucky guest.
The world is a cold and ruthless place [Colombia even more so] and if a fat person can act a as a bulletproof vest and save your life, than a fat person needs to be utilized as a bulletproof vest and save your life. US is isolated to most of those cruelties. You should be thankful for that.
Yes, but is the joke on us? Maybe Obama knows a food shortage is coming and he doesn't want the fatties taking forever to starve to death!
Stored fat = hunger insurance?
Starvation [self-imposed; some call it fasting] is a spiritual experience and you should try it once in a while. I do it quite frequently and it really is benneficial. You would be surprised to know as to how long a human being can go without food [proper fluid intake is THE most important part here].
Americans are greedy pigs [not all, but the majority] and every statistics, data set, poll and chart confirm this.
If TSHTF America will have it worst; Europe knows how to starve, Africa; ditto; Asia; double ditto.
oh i feel so much better about myself, now that i have been fasting my whole life.
F U C K.
spiritual experience, come on cheeky your full of shit.
some people like to eat more than others, what i call it.
i hated food from the get go. use to hide it in my dinners napkins just so i could get excused, and go play.
fuck the whole bought in ritual of eating just fucking reeks of dictatorship.
grocery stores in america is the very start of dumbing down americans.
the whole process of eating than cleaning the bloody dishes, sucks.
I agree with you Cheeky, America will have it bad for that reason and many like it. I personally can't enjoy spiritual fasting because I have been very careful to maintain my weight since HS (class of '90). So every time I have fasted I immediately thought about the extra 5lbs I was going to finally lose. I then feel too guilty to feel good about my effort as it is no longer out of obedience but rather vanity so it doesn't count (except on the scale).
Thanks for the info because I have always found 800 to 1000 calories a day to be the magic number for weight loss. Adding exercise, 1000 to 1200 works best for me.
I personally don't care how fat or skinny anyone else is if the government just stays out of it and lets the industry charge what it should for the added risk. If you were turned away if you didn't have insurance and insurance was cheaper if you were in good health, wouldn't it fix itself one way or the other?
are you trying to come on to cheeky, l u c k y?
well, she is pretty young, go for it.
i think she likes you, big guy†
counting calories is a splendid way to spend an evening.
Actually I really thought I would get scolded for talking about my love of calorie counting for weight maintenance. Didn't expect it to irritate a Babe with a pic of her boobs for an icon! : )
And I would hardly call myself young, but its all relative.
I thought it was "Jack the Knife" as in Jack Nasser (ex Ford CEO)
I see no problem in a government ENCOURAGING healthy habits in the population.
There is a big difference between encouraging and forcing. When they begin to arrest the sedentary fat guys, then you can start talk about "mandating".
Item “g”gives the President authority to do anything that he wants to do, about anything—not only about health, but education, transportation, commerce… (Obama passed health care using an executive order to get one additional vote.) It is criminal—and the responsibility falls directly on the Congress. We went to war in Iraq because Congress wouldn’t vote on it; the blood of the dead is on their hands. Congress has given Obama open-ended power with this EO. He now can say, for example, that the interstate transportation of snack food is a dangerous violation of our health standards; that snack foods are at the root of our problem and I am restricting them.
And because the federal government has its leverage in the nation’s economic system based on educational standards and regulations and because much of the money that’s provided the states comes from taxes collected by the federal government and to reimburse the states for their education goals, that money gives Obama the leverage to force his programs, or else, you won’t get your funding. If your children are overweight, say, maybe now they won’t be allowed to move to the next grade until you and they do something about their weight; it’s in the national interest, you see.
The use of Executive Orders has jumped the presidency into an unacceptable despotic role.
Finally, it’s a bonanza for stakeholders-- who will decide where they can make or receive even more money in the great health scam robbery.
It’s like an army of ambulance chasers turned lose on the American people.
+1000
-1000
What else did you expect from this banker bought illegal alien extreme black Muslim activist?
Honolulu Chief Elections Clerk Says Obama Not Born in Hawaii
June 9, 2010 · 66 Comments
Tim Adams was the Chief Elections Clerk for the city and county of Honolulu, Hawaii, during the 2008 presidential election. As Chief Elections Clerk, he supervised a staff of 50 and had access to all the database to verify documents like birth certificates and birth places of campaign candidates.
On June 5, 2010, Adams was interviewed by James Edwards of the Political Cesspool radio show. Adams says unequivocally:
“Barack Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.”
Adams is currently teaching in the graduate program of Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, Kentucky, (270) 745-0111. He’s listed, as Timothy Adams, in WKU’s faculty-staff directory, HERE. Timothy Adams is also listed as a Graduate Assistant of the English Department, HERE:
Timothy Adams timothy.adams773@wku.edu CH 20 (270) 745-5767A big h/t to American Grand Jury & AGJ’s source, The Betrayal.
~Eowyn
ronaldo
This is just a cover to get more money out of the taxpayers. And you a$$hole athletes took it hook, line, and sinker.
Ya , if there is any substance to this health concern it will be the power to ticket - add a Fine for an over weight individual on examination. This new found concern like everything else , is rooted in profit, will be about Cash flow not calories.
People don't need to be educated that a Twinkie, or smoking, or sitting on the couch with a bag of Cheetos watching reruns of Fraggle Rock is bad for them. It's a choice people make, like everything else in life. Some people are motivated, while others are lazy. In the end, survival of the fittest sorts it all out.
Seriously. Do we really need another 400,000 government workers to tell us to eat an apple instead of a 10 pound box of Nutty Bars?
How long before a government worker comes knocking on my door to explain the hazards of pooping my pants?
LOL! Love it!
YEP...+1quadrillion
You know, I agree with almost everything you said. You are right, people don't need to be educated as to what is bad for them. And the government workers who propose to tell us what to eat, how to think, behave, etc. can fuck off. I'll die first.
However, "choice" is not what it seems to be. We are now well and truly into about our second or third generation of westerners (let's not limit it to Americans, we're all guilty in the west) where our "choice" has become the target of savvy marketing campaigns and addictive junk food ingredients placed in foods for the sole purpose of making us WANT the shit.Many people "think" they have a choice, but they don't, most people (all of us are guilty, some more so than others) are on auto-pilot all day long. It is sickening.
"Choice" can be deceptive. I have "learned" the behaviour of eating raw vegetables, nuts, seeds, green tea, and organic meats every day. Funnily, I get laughed at for my "basic" needs, because my lunch is not so elaborate as those who purchase it every day. It's ok, I understand the ridicule manifests from minds that are conditioned a certain way.I will still do what I can to help those who wish to make effort to change.
By the way, I get a cold about once every two or three years, among an otherwise perfect bill of health. Most people I know are sick once per quarter or more. Our diets are killing us.
Every new day only brings me more desire to run away to South America...
Anyone knows reasonable direct access brokers in Argentina or Brazil???
Notice there are no Executive Orders to keep mercury out of high fructose corn syrup, to keep high fructose corn syrup out of sodas, and to keep sodas out of schools.
But I can see it now: the next installment in the EO Education Series will be the President's Handbook on Personal Satisfaction Through Masturbation.
I am Chumbawamba.
The royalties from the sugar machines keep the School Board in office. I mean lets face it, the shelf life of an apple, even after its been nuked, is way shorter than say a Twinkie.
I suggest you start buying those apples that are priced way below the others. 10 to 1 odds those are a bumper crop and have been nuked. Let a couple sit on your counter for months - the outside never really looks old as it deteriorates. The inside, however, is kinda aging quicker than the skin. Open them up and they turn brown inside really quickly...
Ewwwww! I've seen this and know what you mean. I try to buy local and organic. One day I was at a work function and they served us apples that were hyper shiny and bright (thought it was just wax), I cut it open and it was crumbly and mushy inside, already a little brown. EWWWWWWW!!!! Now I know WTF that was. It really weirded me out. I'm normally on top of food stuff, thanks for that info, will look into it more.
dupe
...or prohibiting manufacturers of drinks loaded with high-fructose corn syrup (ahem, Snapple) to 'sponsor' public schools (ahem, NYC) by allowing them the exclusive vending rights inside said schools in return for some cold-hard cash to help cover the cost overruns in the construction of the brand-new schools administration palace.
It America had an honest, dedicated, responsible leader the stature of Charlemagne it would never give him this kind of power. So why would the American people permit this kind of power to be handed over to the least responsible, most reckless, least informed and most dangerous holder of the presidency in the history of the United States—Barack H. Obama?
Congress alone is responsible for this tyrannical usurpation of freedom by a despotic president. Allowing sweeping law to be made by Executive Order, allowing major wars to be fought without a declaration of war, and allowing a Supreme Court to nullify states’ rights clearly identified in the Constitution with flimsy Commerce Clause reasoning obviously is malfeasance. With vast sums of money available in the general fund, Congress allows the executive branch to run rampant over the private lives of American citizens, acting in it’s name.
Here’s James Madison on the subject, who warned that if the federal government was not kept limited, it would soon usurp state jurisdictions:
If Congress (or in today’s case it’s agent, Obama) can employ money indefinitely to the “general welfare,” and are the sole and supreme judges of the “general welfare,” [then Congress might] take the care of religion into their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every state, county, and parish and pay them out of their public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision for the poor; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than [the] post-roads; in short, everything from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute object of police would be thrown under the power of [the federal] Congress.
It’s time for Congress either to begin rescinding these executive orders or else it needs to get out of the way of the American people who need to storm the Capitol and pull these people out of their seats of power.
"the least responsible, most reckless, least informed and most dangerous holder of the presidency in the history of the United States—Barack H. Obama"
JR,
Just curious... what planet were you on from 2000 to 2008?
In the race to the bottom as to who can do the most damage to the American brand, at the tape I see the finishers Bush the Lesser and the current occupant finishing 1 & 2 with Obama a nose ahead. And don't get me started on Bill Clinton. Up until Obama, I thought the Clinton and George W. run was as bad as it could get…
Hear, Hear!
Can I get a jump on this program and start sending stool samples now?
lol, No.... but you may set your undies on fire if you are flying.
What a sophomoric boob, a dangerous fool Obama is. He's in the process of getting his administration run right out of DC and all its garbage reversed. His wife, who pulls a double-wide in case you haven't noticed, and his girls, who look more than a little soft, will follow his nicotine chugging rear end.
YOU are the fool. Not Obamanation. He knows exactly what he is doing.
Instead Ban Fast food adds. Ban any
Commercial for a product that has sugar in it. Stop serving Pizza, Burgers, Fries in the Schools. Only serve Vegtables, Lean Meats and Fruit. Put a $1.00 tax on any sweet or salty snack item, including Soda. They did it with Tobacco.
Turn off the Internet and disable everyones Cabel. These are the cause of being sedintary. Ban all Video Games as children play Video Games instead of going outside to play.
The above are the source of the problem. They are addressing the problem backward. Blaming People for their "life style choices" while not addressing the problems that cause them.
By the way why does the Government not give everyone a lifetime supply of Nicotine paches? They got that huge settlement from the Tobacco industry. Where did that money go?
How about giving everyone that is Obese free Stomach Staple Surgery? Voluntary of course.
How about giving every Citizen a $2,000. monthly check so they are not stressed and they would have no mental health issues or a drinking problem?
Lots of solutions.
People should think for themselves, no need to ban. Now, I am back out to my garden to enjoy a healthy activity! : )
Liar. I don't think you actually ever went OUT to your garden. :-)
Actually, I did. And enjoyed a few handfuls of fresh, big, beautiful strawberries from my yard. I had to detox from this place awhile. : )
lucky, my strawberries are still weeks away.
Even better Ban all Fast Food Resturants. Ban Convience stores from selling Donuts, Pies, Candy Bars, Soda, Salty snacks. The only thing you could buy would be a Banana, Aapl, Peach, Orange, or salad (NO DRESSING).
that will help unemployment
Another moron who thinks the government should do MORE, like BAN more freedoms. Why no just ban people next?
Moron, you are part of the problem in a major way. Stop spreading your fascism.
How about you fuck off with your 'banning'? you can OPT THE FUCK OUT if you like using your FREEDOM OF CHOICE. You can make decisions on opting out with the grey matter between your ears. Try it.
Of course you should blame people for their lifestyle choices! They should bear the cost of a sedentary lifestyle themselves. How are we 'society' going to pay for people who really need help (if thats what the people in that society want)? The genuine unlucky bastards who get cancer (see above thread) or MS (someone mentioned Leo) I am happy to contribute some of my productivity towards. That shit sucks.
I love mcdonalds, pizza hut, cigarettes and mount gay rum, but i know that too much makes me a porky unhealthy fat bastard and its going to impact my quality of life. So i take part in moderation.
Individual choice is sacred. Even if it leads individuals to bad outcomes (defined bad anyway? maybe not for the individual) Take your banning and fuck off.
The absurdity of this "healthy lifestyle" thrust is overwhelmingly hilarious. We have big ag (monsanto) serving up GMO corn, soy, and canola which are contained in 90% of the processed foods in the US and european scientists are figuring out that the impacts of GMO's on cells could foster obesity at least. We have big Fast Food (Coke, McDonalds etc) bombarding us all day and all night long with ads for foods that will kill you (watch Supersize Me or Food, Inc) and all this plays in so nicely to big pharma who will give you pills for what ails you and the medical industrial complex that LOVES sick people. I think BIG CORP is in heaven here in the US of A.