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Obama Begins "Lifestyle Health Modification" Program, Mandating Behavioural Changes Within US Society
Last week, with little fanfare, among the ever deteriorating oil spill crisis, the White House quietly noted the issuance of an executive order "Establishing the National Prevention, Health Promotion, and Public Health Council", in which the president, citing the “authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America” is now actively engaging in "lifestyle behavior modification" for American citizens that do not exhibit "healthy behavior." At least initially, the 8 main verticals of focus will include: smoking cessation; proper nutrition; appropriate exercise; mental health; behavioral health; sedentary behavior; substance-use disorder; and domestic violence screenings. Eventually we fully anticipate that the program will also target such wholesome activities as screening for precious metal holdings, monthly minimum usage of available revolving credit (and a minimum threshold thereto) and the susceptibility of an individual to stay current on one's mortgage. Additionally, the president will establish yet another Advisory Group, composed of "experts" picked from the public health field, and one which tracks the successful uptake by the US population of the precepts for a better functioning society that the president deems important. Cosmo culture has just been adopted by the White House, where Big Brother is now in the business of counting calories, and soon, your bars of gold.
From the Executive Order, defining the duties of the Council:
Sec. 3. Purposes and Duties. The Council shall:
(a) provide coordination and leadership at the Federal level, and among all executive departments and agencies, with respect to prevention, wellness, and health promotion practices, the public health system, and integrative health care in the United States;
(b) develop, after obtaining input from relevant stakeholders, a national prevention, health promotion, public health, and integrative health-care strategy that incorporates the most effective and achievable means of improving the health status of Americans and reducing the incidence of preventable illness and disability in the United States, as further described in section 5 of this order;
(c) provide recommendations to the President and the Congress concerning the most pressing health issues confronting the United States and changes in Federal policy to achieve national wellness, health promotion, and public health goals, including the reduction of tobacco use, sedentary behavior, and poor nutrition;
(d) consider and propose evidence-based models, policies, and innovative approaches for the promotion of transformative models of prevention, integrative health, and public health on individual and community levels across the United States;
(e) establish processes for continual public input, including input from State, regional, and local leadership communities and other relevant stakeholders, including Indian tribes and tribal organizations;
(f) submit the reports required by section 6 of this order; and
(g) carry out such other activities as are determined appropriate by the President.
For some reason item (g) seems supiciously similar to the Goldman Sachs ethics waiver.
For a slightly less politically correct and slightly truthier interpretation of this latest invasion into individual privacy, Nanny State has the following opinion:
Whether you are a child, a parent, a worker, or retired, the President’s approximately 25-member “Advisory Group” will soon be present in every aspect of Americans’ lives, as the Executive Order prescribes. Specifically, our new so-called lifestyle behavior modification advisors will be actively carrying out the President’s orders in:
- worksite health promotion;
- community services, including community health centers;
- preventive medicine;
- health coaching;
- public health education;
- geriatrics; and
- rehabilitation medicine.
President Obama’s sweeping plan to enforce “lifestyle behavior modification” is chock full of open-ended target areas, especially when it comes to issues of “mental” and “behavioral” health, “proper nutrition,” “sedentary behavior,” and “appropriate exercise.” The President’s Executive Order is a blatant and forceful attempt to adjust the way Americans young and old think, behave, eat, drink and whatever else free will used to entitle our nation’s citizens to enjoy as prescribed by the Founding Fathers.
If you are feeling stressed-out, sad, confused, hungry, thirsty, bored, or tired, do you honestly trust President Obama and his “Advisory Group” to act in your best interests?
Way to go Rahm: yet another unprecedented ecological crisis used skillfully by the administration to pass a covert and some would say unconstitutional executive order. On the other hand, we asked some time ago just what is the constitution to a constitutional law professor? Gradually every person in America is starting to understand the very unpleasant answer to that question. Tangentially, we wonder if the president and the head of the House Financial Services Committee have kicked their respective tobacco/KFC habits yet.
h/t John
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Exactly! Did we change our habits or did the food available to us change?
+100
And exactly what is the cost for medical treatment of sports injuries? Maybe sitting on the couch overweight isn't such a bad idea, you could get hurt out there.....
Whatever, junk you too!
I guess all the kids on adderal won't have to worry about this order. They never get hungry!
For a minute I thought I read about this in a history book. But when I didn't see anything about proper Aryan genes and etc., I breathed a sigh of relief.
Cheers,
The entire food chain of the American eater is corn based. Gmo. Persticide and herbacide laden cancer glop. It is provided by a handfull of extremely powerful corporations. It is subsidized and zealously guarded by monsanto stormtroopers.
People here honestly think the government is going to change that?
Like cap and trade legislation will help global warming? By establishing a market to trade units?
This is nothing more than a totalitarian power grab. If you lack the ability to see this, then congratulations- you are the reason we are in the position we are in today.
This has nothing to do with health or health costs- this is about control. If you fail to understand, start with the overwhelming health ramifications emanating from the gulf of Mexico and explain why they aren't doing a f*cking thing...
Well, now we know what the FEMA camps are for.
Yep, my suspicions are confirmed. Fat People.
wtf is all this discussion about health ? important is the road to recovery, get people back to work and work harder and get s&p to 100 by year end. Just dont get wtf health has to do wiz that !
Yeah, I mean what ever happened to FREEDOM?
It turned into a consumerism marketing campaign.
As another poster above noted, and I concur, this is simply yet another beuracracy created to be staffed with cronies, and do nothing but provide political cover for taxing the few workers left just a little more.
In addition to the soon to come VAT, look for increased sin taxes, which will be expanded to include taxes on twinkies, big macs, french fries. More covert stimulus in the form of govt subsidized treadmills etc.
I find it ironic the very party that throws money at non working Americans and subsidizes benifits for illegals, is now appalled to find so many fat asses driving up health care costs.
God knows if creating Federal beauracracies could solve societys problems, we in the USA would be living in an utopian paradise by now.
Now they want to tax me a little more to help get the very class of non-workers to shape up that prior govt programs created in the first place!
Now I have to work more to pay for the welfare queens to visit their new govt sponsered gym with all that free time they have.
According to the official site there is no obligation or penalty. It would seem Obama is not doing anything other President's like Kennedy did... we shall see...http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-establishing-...
I spent a great deal of time, back in the nineties, basically living at a stripclub called "Flashdancers". It was heaven - Russian mob-owned place, 51st Street - anyone know the place? Two of their main security guys were like 450 pound guys. One august night, one of them slugged a guy, who them pumped nine 9mm into him. I watched it happen - ended up actually taking care of the guy at the hospital a few days later. I asked him about getting shot that many times. He said it felt like getting stung by bees. None of the bullets penetrated deep enough to hit anything. Quite amazing.
Mack"The Fucking" Knife - I am Marcia Brady's Chumbawumba!!!
Wow !1 A boring Sunday or what ? I can't believe all the posts on this one . Well , yes I can . I am required to have a "health coach " thruough my employer provided health insurance . And jump through several hoops . All to have lower co-pays for dictors and scrips . Required to have one coach call , have had to put up with three . I find it a total invasion of privacy. I am asked about just what TD stated . Smoker ? Do you excercise ? Doctor says my weight is fine . health coach says i should lose weight based on wahtever commie BS they are using as criteria . I did not know this was a precursor to Heir Barrack , or is it Comrade Obama . I would rather pay the higher co-pays than deal with this anymore . It goes on and on . No fellow employee likes this invasion at all . Many are lying just to get the "coachs " off their backs . Mine talks like a telemarketer , all pushy and such . Makes me want to puke . Country is going to hell fast
In my defense (because I've posted so much) I dislocated my elbow ballroom dancing (healthy) drinking (not healthy). I would much rather be gardening with Kali outside. : (
I get the same thing from my Employer on behalf of the Insurance Industry... It is amazing what your employer can make you do between the hours of 9 to 5. It's almost like you don't have any freedom...
Honestly, it is much freakier than that. You've already lost the battle. A few weeks ago my satellite radio went out, and I was forced to listen to AM. Where I heard a news story touting these new school based health centers in California. Which immediately torqued me out. I can't think of any better idea than to combine the school unions with the nurses union in one full swoop.
I wanted to see how much money was being spent on this, but got completely freaked out. You should read the charter.
"The clinics will provide medical, dental, mental health, case management and health education services, including nutrition and physical activity programming. School-based health centers also provide students with a range of youth development opportunities that empower students to lead healthy and successful lives."
I found it really troubling that mental health was so far at the top for middle school kids. And while very liberal socially, I don't think schools should be involved in reproductive health. Even baring that though, by far the freakiest thing is - these things are being run by in large part by La Clínica de La Raza
http://www.girlsinc-alameda.org/mental-health-services/oakland-school-based-health-centers
http://www.americantowns.com/ca/oakland/news/oakland-to-break-ground-on-40-million-in-school-health-clinics-315472
It seems California isn't the only state that thinks this is okay.
They want our kids on Ritalin. I'll home school mine first.
Several states already have this in place.
I wish him well ;)
Socialism is on the march!
AHHH JESUS H. FUCKING CHRIST! ALL OF THIS BACK AND FORTH WITH MIS-INFORMATION AND PEOPLE CLUTCHING THEIR PERSONAL BELIEFS WITH PERPETUAL DEATH GRIPS IS MAKING ME SICK !!!
Praise Allah!
Sorry to say to all of you libertarians who think you have personal sovereignty, President Obama, just announced it has to be and will be sacrificed, as his, that is the President’s word, will and way is sovereign.
let me put on my Alcoa hat..
I read they were going to collect data on debit/charge cards and accounts.
spending habits....do you smoke....drink...
how much fast food do you eat....breakfast cereal with high sugar
so you just say I will use cash from now on.....they will go back 5 years or so to track you....
some how this is to get a higher co-pay out of you...
Not only that, but they are gonna start tracking ALL transactions of $500 or more, they want bizzes to start reporting that. Used to be just transfers from/to banks of $10,000 or more.
So is America starving this week with a record number of people on food stamps or are we fat slobs or both? I can't keep track anymore.
I think Obama is afraid to talk to Michelle about he size of her ass so he dreamed up another universal fascist mandate to make it look like he's doing something "for the common good."
+210lbs
Hey, her's is not that big (by Afro-American standards); she's just jealous of real big, fat assed sistas - so, there: I hereby proclaim no one shall haveth bigger bum than first ladey, yo...
Diet, biatchez!
i got to get the fuck out of america†
Cya!
Do you plan on heading somewhere cold?
Not to worry, folks. After november the democrats won't have a majority in congress, so Obama won't have the power to do anything except make his daily useless, blithering speeches.
Is spanking the Monkey considered a crime? If the answer is yes, Then Jail, Im ready for you... Take me to Buba
Excessive monkey spanking will be criminalized under the mental health clause. One orgasm a day is considered healthy for a typical male.
There are ancient techniques you can learn where you orgasm, but don't ejaculate. You can hide your excessive orgasms. Orgasmic underground. Once that is deemed to be out of control, then they will come after erections, next. Everyone will be fitted with a plesmograph. There will be an erection tax.
And what of those of you out there having too few?
Vee have veys of maykink you cum.
oh no, i am in trouble.
wonder if you get a pass, if you don't eat than you get to have three square orgasms a day.
Men will be issued tissue paper.
Women too.
If you think "the government" has any solutions, you are part of the problem, and a moron because history has taught you NOTHING.
You damn right it hasn't, I went to a public school.
This is a good thing Obama is doing, You are all over reacting. You sound like Children who refuse to eat your greens!
If you agree with any part of this tyranny. You need to go read http://www.zerohedge.com/article/welcome-insane-asylum-–-making-reality-fresh-daily-chapter-4
That's a start.
How do you tell the brainwashed that their brainwashed?
Kingfuckup, To answer your question about Michelle Bachman:
She shoots off her mouth with whatever her handlers put in front of her. If you really think this stuff is coming into her mind, I have some lots in Detroit I would love to sell you.
Why don't you tell me what her her great qualities are? What is it the separates her from a Craftsman 15/16th box wrench? She is a tool, specifically a piece of litmus paper just like Palin deployed to test the waters in order to formulate a platform for the fall.
What is so crazy about her. Run on your own thoughts and opinions, not those of your handlers. Being a tool is crazy
Nothing like a post containing BOTH a hotly debated political topic AND an issue that hits a little bit too close to home for nearly two-thirds of America's population to bring out the best (read: worst) in all of us.
Great post Tyler.
Oh Lord, Rush Limbah is gonna have a field day with this one.
did we not already try this? President Eisenhower established the President's Council on Youth Fitness with Executive Order 10673, issued on July 16, 1956.
Physical fitness is often in the news today, but it has long been a national concern, and the government's response to it was shaped significantly during the Kennedy administration.
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as a small lad I had to do this in gym class.....sit ups....pull ups....push ups.
Relax already; the DHS will be co-chairing this committee and making sure you're all up to date with your current anti-terror vaccinations.
I want this whole "Lifestyle Health Modification" program monitored by the DHS. This is how fascism begins people. Thank God we have the DHS to stop it.
At least he didn't say anything about my right to spank my monkey, even with the blindness issue and all.
Did they say anything about flogging the bishop?
You know they'll ban choking the chicken - animal rights and all. Fortunately, you got the the whole issue over trouser trout cleared up. Based on the latest test results, supposed to be good for women's health.
My spouse works for a non-profit that encourages hospitals, schools, and other public institutions to buy locally grown food. So far it seems to be taken up about 50% of the time and the results I guess are reasonably positive. While I am as cynical about the government's actions and Wall Street's actions as the next girl, I am a little surprised a health push by this administration is a) surprising or b) that threatening. This country eats crap and obesity is an expensive problem. I am not too thin myself but I would much rather than stay out of the financial markets and get into the health/food markets and do something useful.
Edna R. Rider
I'm am so sick of the misinformed bullshit. Much like the earlier post about the benefits of Tobacco, here is the benefit of being fat and in some cases actually Obese.
http://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/news/20100129/overweight-older-people-live-longer
Overweight Older People Live Longer A Few Extra Pounds May Be a Plus in Old Age, http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer
June 25, 2009 -- There is more evidence that people who are overweight tend to live longer than people who are underweight, normal weight, or obese.
In a newly published study, people who were underweight and those who were extremely obese died the earliest.
People who were overweight, but not obese, actually lived longer than people whose weight was considered normal, based on body mass index (BMI).
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/get-fat-live-longer/article1230784/
But is it? A new study based on Statistics Canada population data reaches an exceedingly awkward conclusion: People who are overweight live longer than people who are classified as “normal” weight. Not only that, people who are classified as significantly overweight also live longer.
The study, led by Statistics Canada's Heather Orpana, was devised to estimate the relationship between body mass index and mortality in Canadian adults. The database was nearly 12,000 people. The authors of the Canada-U.S. joint study adjusted for age, gender, smoking, physical activity and alcohol consumption. They found that the link between weight and mortality is relatively weak. The strongest finding was that underweight men are at greater risk than any other group.
But being overweight was associated with a 25-per-cent lower risk of dying. Being obese was associated with a 12-per-cent lower risk of dying. The risk for the most morbidly obese (who account for less than 3 per cent of all Canadians) was statistically the same as the risk for people of “normal” weight. The findings were published online in the research journal Obesity.
“Overweight may not be the problem we thought it was,” said David Feeny, a senior investigator at Kaiser Permanente Center for Health Research in Oregon, almost apologetically. “Overweight was protective.” He added that agencies such as Health Canada might want to rethink the way they classify people's weight.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/24/overweight_live_longer/
Unsurprisingly, people whose BMI showed them to be "underweight" or "extremely obese" died sooner than those in the more middle-of the-road brackets. But the medical community's consensus that anyone with a BMI from 25-30 is "overweight", whereas 18.5-25 is "ideal" has been undermined by the fact that survey subjects in the former, heftier band actually lived longer than the lightweights.
"It's not surprising that extreme underweight and extreme obesity increase the risk of dying, but it is surprising that carrying a little extra weight may give people a longevity advantage," said David Feeny, PhD, one of the study's authors.
Among the individuals tracked during the survey, the most dangerous BMI band to be in was "underweight"; next worst was "extremely obese". Both of these groups had significantly increased risks of dying, 70 and 36 per cent above the norm respectively. Those who were merely "obese" and those with an "ideal" BMI ran very similar risks of death. But the "overweight" were actually 17 per cent less likely than normal to die as time went by.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070620073447.htm
Obese Heart Attack Patients Are More Likely To Survive After Treatment Than Normal Weight Patients
ScienceDaily (June 22, 2007) — Obese and very obese patients have a lower risk of dying after they have been treated for heart attacks than do normal weight patients, according to new research.
Researchers in Germany and Switzerland found that amongst patients who had received initial treatment for a specific type of heart attack, those that were obese or very obese were less than half as likely to die during the following three years as patients who had a normal body mass index (BMI).
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/12/study-want-to-improve-your-odds-of-surviving-a-crash-have-anot/
There aren't a lot of positives about being overweight, but a study by the University of Michigan shows that there could be one reason for the chunky among us to celebrate. U of M studied 300,000 traffic fatalities obtained from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration between 1998 and 2008, and it has reportedly found that overweight people had a 22 percent lower fatality rate than underweight people. However, the story changes for the worse if you're a man with a Body Mass Index (BMI) of 35 to 50 and you are not wearing a safety belt. The study shows that obese men are 10 percent more likely to die in an accident if they don't buckle up.
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=87d2cde2-c9e0-464a-8228-69955ae002b0
In the latest example of the phenomenon known as the "obesity survival paradox," American researchers found that while critically ill obese patients spend more days on mechanical ventilators and in intensive care units than thinner ICU patients, they're more likely to survive.
And there are several theories as to why: One holds that an abundant supply of fat tissue acts like a factory, churning out chemicals called adipokines that help fight inflammation and infections such as sepsis - overwhelming bloodstream infections that are the leading cause of death in an ICU.
In addition, during severe illnesses, the body breaks down muscle protein and glycogen, the body's primary source of stored energy. Obese people may be better able to cope because of greater nutritional reserves.
"With the increased rates of obesity, we're seeing more and more morbidly obese patients in the intensive care unit," says lead author Dr. Folu Akinnusi, of the University of Buffalo's division of pulmonary, critical care and sleep medicine.
"We thought, if they were at increased risk and likely to die, we needed to do something, we needed a different kind of intervention to try and reduce or stem that wave of increased mortality."
Instead, they found the opposite to be true. Akinnusi hopes the findings will make doctors think twice about "subconsciously writing off the obese."
"A lot of times, people have less of an expectation" that they will survive, he says. "If we know they're not at greater risk then you're very likely to give them as much of a chance as everyone else and do the most you can for them."
The study is the latest to show how the very condition that causes multiple health problems - including high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke and diabetes - may protect people during serious illness or injury.
Other researchers have found that obese people with kidney failure, heart failure and chronic obstructive lung disease do better than skinnier patients.
http://www.alive.com/359a1a2.php?subject_bread_cramb=398
Cholesterol Myth
North Americans like to be scared by being told that their cholesterol intake is a health hazard, although cholesterol by itself is not a killer. The body needs, produces and keeps certain levels of it-because it’s vitally important.
About 10 per cent of the dry weight of the brain is cholesterol. It’s a basic raw material for vitamin D, hormones and cell membranes. It keeps cell membranes functioning properly. If the membranes contain too little "good" cholesterol, they become too fluid and fall apart. If they contain too much cholesterol, they become stiff and break. Udo Erasmus says that "according to nutritional theory, the measurement of blood cholesterol is a fad." (Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill, alive Books.)
The Department of Agriculture supports this view unknowingly through its statistics. Compilations show that "the cholesterol consumption of 500 mg in 1985 was about the same as in 1909 to 1913 when it was 520 mg. Its peak was in 1945 with 610 mg."
High Blood Pressure Not A Disease
Why have North Americans in 1909 and in 1945 been afflicted with fewer food-related diseases than in 1985 and onwards?
Obviously there is nothing inherently wrong with cholesterol.
Benefits of Blood Pressure
Our researchers should read the information available to them such as studies by the German medical doctor, professor and scientist Dr Lothar Wendt. They would then realize that a higher than normal blood pressure is a necessity if the blood and the basal membranes of the capillaries of the walls of arteries are thickened by stored excess animal protein. The excess animal protein stored in the walls of blood vessels narrows the diameter of the blood vessels. A higher than "normal" blood pressure is necessary to press the same volume of blood through the narrowed blood vessels. This sustains life by providing the same quantity of blood to the tissues and cells behind the capillaries. It feeds the cells and takes care of the disposal of cellulite metabolic waste.
Increasing Oxygen
Another effect of stored excess animal protein is that it thickens the blood by thickening the red blood cells. Thickened red blood cells increase the viscosity of the blood and require an additional increase of the blood pressure to make the blood flow.
The red blood cells contain hemoglobin and carry oxygen to the cells and tissues. They also carry carbon dioxide to the respiratory organs. One result of thickened basal membranes is that it takes the oxygen molecules a longer time to pass through them. The cells experience a lack of oxygen. That’s why the body increases the number of red blood cells.
The compensatory augmentation of hemoglobin and the number of red blood cells increases the viscosity of the blood and the volume of its packed cells. This in turn continuously reduces the speed of the blood stream. The final result is that less oxygen arrives at the cells than before the compensation. Medication against high blood pressure worsens this condition.
That’s why Dr M. O. Bruker, who practiced nutrition-oriented medicine in Germany for over 60 years and has records of over 60,000 patients, says it’s a lie to tell people that high blood pressure kills them. He says nobody dies from it and that high blood pressure is an indication that stored excess animal protein has thickened the blood, the basal membranes of capillaries and the walls of the arteries. A higher than normal blood pressure is a necessity and not a disease.
Why should you artificially bring down high blood pressure by medication if the body needs a higher than normal blood pressure? Does the medication against hypertension remove the cause of it? Does it remove the stored excess animal protein from the walls of arteries, basal membranes of the capillaries and the blood? Does medication make hypertension unnecessary? No. It does not.
Medication against high blood pressure tries to treat a symptom. Even the American Health Association (AHA) admits that "dietary and lifestyle changes may help control high blood pressure." But AHA sticks to its obsolete belief that "the cause of 90 to 95 per cent of the cases of high blood pressure isn’t known."
Can they cure it if they don’t understand what causes it? Why treat it at all with medication? A cure would be the removal of the cause for the necessity of hypertension by removing the stored excess
http://blog.wellnesstips.ca/blog/?p=134
Dr. Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD, who wrote the book The Cholesterol Myths, goes through study after study destroying the idea that high cholesterol levels are the cause of heart disease. In the Framingham heart study done near Boston that spanned 30 years , the researchers concluded that high cholesterol was a risk factor for heart disease, but when one really dissects the data, one must question how they came to that conclusion. For example, when the participants of the study are plotted on a graph it clearly shows that those with cholesterol levels between 182 and 222 did not survive as long as those with higher cholesterol levels of between 222 and 261. The study shows that about half the people with heart disease had low cholesterol, and half the people without heart disease had high cholesterol.
Most studies have found that for women, high cholesterol is not a risk factor for heart disease at all - in fact, the death rate for women is five times higher in those with very low cholesterol. In a Canadian study that followed 5000 healthy middle-aged men for 12 years, they found that high cholesterol was not associated with heart disease at all. And in another study done at the University Hospital in Toronto that looked at cholesterol levels in 120 men that previously had heart attacks, they found that just as many men that had second heart attacks had low cholesterol levels as those that had high. The Maoris of New Zealand die of heart attacks frequently, irrespective of their cholesterol levels. In Russia, it is low cholesterol levels that are associated with increased heart disease. The Japanese are often cited as an example of a population that eat very little cholesterol and have a very low risk of heart disease. But the Japanese that moved to the US and continued to eat the traditional Japanese diet had heart disease twice as often as those that maintained the Japanese traditions but ate the fatty American diet. This suggests that it is something else, like stress perhaps, that is causing the heart disease.
Dr. Malcolm Kendrick noticed that in the MONICA study that has been going on for about 40 years, that there is no association between high cholesterol levels and heart disease. See the graph for yourself at the bottom of the article. (Dr. Kendrick wrote another interesting piece about the "disappointing results" of low fat diets in the Women’s Health Initiatives heart intervention study, and the lack of association between death rates from CVD and saturated fat consumption based on the MONICA study).
These are but a small sample of the studies that contradict the idea that cholesterol is the villain in heart disease. So why has this idea held on so long? Perhaps pharmaceutical companies and the processed-food industry have a lot to gain by keeping this belief alive. Statin drugs (Lipitor, Mevacor, Zocor etc.) are mega money makers, and they definitely do lower cholesterol, but if high cholesterol does not cause heart disease, why are they necessary?
Thanks for the great info.. I have often thought stress related high blood pressure is the culprit more than just someone whose blood pressure is generally high.
Yes! Stress will kill you quicker than anything.
Golly, maybe the government should reconsider what they've done to exacerbate this whole 'economic situation' thing...it seems pretty stressful for a lot of people.
"Tangentially, we wonder if the president and the head of the House Financial Services Committee have kicked their respective tobacco/KFC habits yet."
When you guys quit, count me in.
This is rich, there's not a microgram of integrity in the entire Washington, D.C. metro area and they want to talk about behavioral modification?
You guys kick ass in digging out financial malfeasance. The social commentary goes into the conspiratory. Same problem I'm seeing in the Tea Party. Stay fiscal focused.
"You guys kick ass in digging out financial malfeasance. The social commentary goes into the conspiratory. Same problem I'm seeing in the Tea Party. Stay fiscal focused.
Posts from TD and crew are only half the fun IMHO. I enjoy the conspiratol social commentary. Reads like a good issue of...
When the medical industry implodes, you'll see your fiscal focus.
Will the IRS become chief enforcers?
That would be your next door neighbor.
I think it all boiles down to SEX. If you want SEX you are thin. If you do not want SEX you are heavy. Or, if no one wants to have SEX with you you are heavy.
Yes. That explains the demographics of birth rates so well. Keep cranking out your deep thoughts...
Everyone knows regulating behaviour doesn't work. It'd be much better to have carb/fat/sugar/alcohol/sex/sleep/air/water cap-n-trade.
just doing my share to get this thread to a 3page length!
Jack Nicholson says you can suck his dick if you shut up...
Land of the free home of the brave!!!1
1 Some restrictions apply. Void where prohibited.
I find it interesting so many speak against fat people - yet froma statistical point of view those who are underweight by equal amounts have much more health problems than their fat counterparts.
The difference being they are not hated.
WTF?
Hello... a record number of Americans are on food stamps. The cheapest food is usually the fattest food. Most people can't afford organic vegetables and Angus beef on food stamps! These people are at walmart trying to get the most filling food their budget will allow for their families.
Also, don't forget what stress/anxiety does for over-eating and thus comfort food. After all we are on the brink of finanacial Armageddon.
These vain, pinkie in the air, elitist bastards make me sick!
Disclaimer: I'm fat, but not on food stamps (yet).
AVP, I remember you coming on board just a few short days ago. And now you're coming out slugging!
I agree with most here:
Obama and the rest of you .gov assholes, get OUT of our lives you fascists!
Totally uncalled for and not too mention in bad taste as well. Missed this attack last June
and I'm glad I did because I've agreed with 95% of your opinions. For the RECORD I'm neither
a fascist nor a gov/asshole. Peace out, Bearing....
Oh, and you know you can not stop accumulating...lol.
HOLY FUCK!!!
I need to move to a freer place, like Beijing (preferably near Tianamen Square-I hear that real estate prices will never fall in Red China), Caracas (they don't give a fuck about the environmental impact of oil spills down there either from what I hear), or Mogadishu (can have all of the guns I want without some fuckface bureaucrat telling me what to do; plus, it's probably OK to shoot those douchebags over there).
This is either a do nothing/make people feel good program or a powergrab. My first thought was this is a way to control vitamin supplements without going through congress to do it. The pharamaceutical industry would love to have the FDA with absolute power. You could only buy fish oil capsules from big pharma and 10 times the cost and eliminate supplements that compete with their drugs. Anybody else thought of this? I havn't read all of the responses here.
http://www.lef.org/featured-articles/Pharmaceutical-Profit-Big-Government-Bias-The-Plan-to-Destroy-Access-to-Dietary-Supplements.htm#SpecialReport
as george bush told us, the constitution is nothing but a goddamned piece of paper...and so it is only natural that the fake president born in mboassa kenya and still a citizen of indonesia should exercise the fascist powers vested in him by the plutocrats of amerika....
www.obamacrimes.com
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/06/guest-post-liberals-and-libertari...
If the choice is:
Darwin and Freedom/Liberty
vs.
Fascist Big Brother Government controlling my life and my choices...
Darwin and Freedom/Liberty win hands down.
That's exactly right, Pan.
It was pretty fascinating reading. The author talked to some scientists who pointed out some tremendous edges that human beings have.
One is that human beings can alternate our breathing as we choose. Most animals are stuck with a 1 stride equals 1 breath rate of respiration.
A second was that, by standing upright, human beings present relatively little of their surface to sunlight and tend to overheat less than a deer.
They also pointed out how human beings have evolved such that, according to one scientist, we retain the endurance that we have at age 18 to . . . age 64. Strength goes down. Ability to sprint goes down. Ability to run distance abides.
And, the author talks to a South African guy who has been on persistence hunts with tribesmen.
Fascinating stuff. The rest of the book was good but those 30 or so pages were tremendous.
Nothing like a little tyranny to cap off the weekend. Time to get rid of this guy.
Ironic that our Dear Leader, the smoker in chief, is issuing this edict.
DOW chart warns of a rally :
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The Constitution vests no such power in the President. Funny how fast freedom is unravelling in America. And without a shot fired.
The behavior modification theme screams of social engineering and intrusion reminiescent of the modern British nanny state.
Howver, America is facing a stealth health crisis that will eventually affect productivity, GDP and the affordability of unsustainable but politically untouchable medicare and social security programs. This health crisis differs somewhat from the turn of the twentieth century in that the culprit is not so much exotic malicious pathogens, but lifestyle diseases. Obesity is skyrocketing. Young children are being treated in growing numbers for full-blown Type 2 diabetes. Teenagers have the blood pressure levels of war veteran chain smokers. More young women are becoming infertile due to STDs, and diet related diseases/ nutritional deficiencies are making a comeback.
Nobody wants the Government looking over their shouldesr when they chomp down on bacon and eggs in the morning, but America is getting fat- and sick. Although I am creeped out by the Orwellian language, something needs to be done to halt the disturbing trends in the public health by emphasizing prevention through prudent lifestyle choices.
You geniuses are missing the entire point!!! It is not about which choices are right, which behaviours are healthiest, or how fat ZH posters are. It is about the insidious government interjecting itself into even more facets of our lives. I am not a smoker, and definitely dont want to be subjected to others smoke, but how the hell can this still be America if they are gonna come by my crib with a scale and weigh my fat ass??? I am okay with them persecuting OBVIOUSLY defective types like lesbians and redheads, but should they really be allowed to kick my dimply ass because the first digit in my weight just happens not to be a 1,2,or 3? I am so freakin' mad I am going to KFC, followed by a delicious journey to Coldstone Creamery! Regards,
Fat and Sassy
ps- bet you cant guess my weight!
No, I get the point- the creeping process by which the federal government weaves its way into the private lives of its citizens, infantilizing them and infringing on their rights in the process. But there is a tendency in online debates to phrase all issues in sharp relief. This leads to 'us versus them' debates that unfortunately sometimes degenerates in to ad hominem attacks, but I digress.
I think the language the government is using is Orwellian and the methodology being used to implement the ideals quite patronizing. At the same time, however, I recognize the looming dangers that the administration is trying to address. If I were to offer guidance on a policy level I would say that the administration needs to structure it so that healthy living is incentivized from the bottom up without being imposed from the top down.
Public health issues affect economic growth because it directly correlates to the productivity of labor, the most critical factor of production.
Everyone should be very concerned and outraged with this!!!! This amounts to legalizing/controlling "appropriate" behavior and it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!! The standard for "appropriate" is whatever Obama and his adminstration deem to be appropriate; in other words, as long as you do what he/they want, you will be fine. However, if you disagree then you're in trouble. Anyone remember how Hitler, Napoleon, Caesar took control of power?? Lessons learned from history would benefit this society.
I will not take your flu shot, oh fascist one.
t-minus 1984
Diseases are caused by mental trauma, proven 100% scientifically. The information has been available for decades. I'm surprised with the internet and blogs like this one (a distrustful bunch) no one has figured it out. Go ahead and stay in the dark if you wish. Modern medicine is the greatest fraud of them all.
I wish that was the case. Unfortunately, most people learn to take care of themselves after that triple bypass and / or the insulin injections. Then they live to be in their 80s.
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