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Obama Confirms Leadership Failure, Pulls Out Mother Of All Mutual Assured Nukes: "Raise Debt Ceiling Or Risk Global Recession"

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And people made fun of Hank Paulson for threatening with eternal damnation if congress didn't stamp his multi-trillion blank check to bail out his former co-workers from Goldman. In a step that makes the Kashkari-Paulson threat seem like amateur hour, the teleprompter just received its latest high frequency directive from the Wall Street superiors, promptly delivering the latest MAD message to what continues to be perceived as an idiot audience: "Failure by Congress to raise the U.S. debt limit "could plunge the world economy back into recession," President Barack Obama declared Friday, and he acknowledged that he must compromise on spending with Republicans who control the House to avoid such a crisis. Obama urged swift action, saying he doesn't want the United States to get close to a deadline that would destabilize financial markets. He said he was confident Congress ultimately would raise the limit. "We always have. We will do it again," said Obama, who voted against raising the debt limit as a freshman senator from Illinois."

For those keeping score of the President's numerous accolades, this merely underscores that the president is now in contention for the Nobel Prize in hypocrisy: after all compare this statement to Obama's now supremely ironic remark from March 20, 2006: "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better." They sure do. And in order to replace the current failed leadership, they will gladly start with a new president.

From AP:

"I'm the person who is best prepared for us to finish the job so that we're on track to succeed in the 21st century," Obama said. That's the heart of his argument for voters to give him a second term over more than a half dozen Republicans seeking the White House.

As the 2012 campaign gets under way, it's being shaped by a deep disagreement over federal spending in Washington between Republicans who control the House and Democrats in power in the Senate and White House. Obama and Republicans compromised a week ago on a spending bill to avert a government shutdown, a preview of the debate that's certain to dominate the coming months on deficits and the ceiling on money the nation can borrow.

The president said that he doesn't expect either side to get everything it wants in negotiations and that he's pushing for "a smart compromise that's serious."

He warned of dire consequences if the debt ceiling is not raised before it hits its limit of $14.3 trillion; the administration says the latest Congress could possibly act is by early July. But Obama said some longer-term questions about where the government trims its operations will have to be left until after the 2012 presidential election.

"I'm confident that the withdrawal will be significant," he said. "People will say this is a real process of transition, this is not just a token gesture."

 


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Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:18 | Link to Comment squexx
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Whoops! dup........

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:17 | Link to Comment squexx
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When the "Evil Tribe" is done using his ass as a patsy, they will Kenedy-ize him. It will be done by a "white racist" or "Muslim terrorist." The resulting black nationwide chimpouts will lead to a nationalized, miltarized police force and any Constitutionl rights will become "outmoded" in the new emergency. The dollar will die, Nafta currency will replace it (eventually followed by world currency) and control of North America by the ZOG elite will commence. And of course, jooz will get special treatment!

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:37 | Link to Comment SimpleSimon
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Here is what President Obama told ABC News George Stephanopoulos regarding his Senatorial vote in 2006 opposing a debt increase:
I think that it's important to understand the vantage point of a senator versus the vantage point of a ... president. When you're a senator, traditionally what's happened is, this is always a lousy vote. Nobody likes to be tagged as having increased the debt limit for the United States by a trillion dollars. ... As president, you start realizing: 'You know what? We -- we can't play around with this stuff. This is the full faith in credit of the United States.' 

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:42 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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and I 'll bet George had no follow on questions. And ya'll wonder why the country is voting democratic more often than not. They are never ever held to the same standard.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:45 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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POTUS speaks with forked tongue!

So basically what he is saying is, The Hope and The Change we got in 2008 equates to ignorant, irresponsible and childish senator to an emasculated, castrated, finger puppet adult President.

Time for another beer.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:37 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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I'm confident the Teleprompter concluded ... with Love G.S.

 

Choose your own conclusions.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Traianus Augustus
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We are about to get robbed again!!  To quote K_Denninger "WHERE ARE THE FREAKING COPS!!!!!"

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:20 | Link to Comment stormsailor
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please don't

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:38 | Link to Comment Weaseldog
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When he said Global Recession, I think he meant, 'A dip in the US Stock Market.'

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:39 | Link to Comment Waterfallsparkles
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It appears like the FED is getting nervous and so are the Banks.  The Bubbleish market will not be able to hold its gains without prompt attention to dispersing more of America's wealth to the Bankers before the Country goes bust.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:12 | Link to Comment slewie the pi-rat
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hi, beloved troll!

1)  we're prob headed for a recession due to the clusterflock of black swans comin outa japan, the world's #3 economy.  not to mention the Ce-137!

2)  ergo, we may be seeing the bubblish market unable to hold it's "gains" no matter what.  try reflating negative growth?  try wealth transfers to banksters?  probably won't show up in corporate earnings, if we're slowin down here, ok?

3)  the goobermint is bust, not the Country.  make absolutely sure you continue to confuse this, forever, ok?

okey dokey!  have a wonderful day, hon!  see ya!

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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Apmex just posted $43 Silver price. I wonder if Kitco will too?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:42 | Link to Comment digalert
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I'll take recession for $100 Alex.

We are in a global recession now. Fuck Oblame with his "I saved this country from the brink" bullcrap. All they've done is covered the bankster gambling debts and kicked the can.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:43 | Link to Comment Korbin Dallas
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To gain support, he granted bonuses to those in the military including the Praetorian Guard, city troops and the army outside Italy. He destroyed Tiberius's treason papers, declared that treason trials were a thing of the past and recalled those who had been sent into exile. He helped those who had been harmed by the Imperial tax system, banished certain sexual deviants, and put on lavish spectacles for the public, such as gladiator battles.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:46 | Link to Comment Vincent Vega
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So the options are:

a) don't raise debt ceiling and risk recession.

b) raise the debt ceiling and continue to enrich the oligarchies.

hmmmm, i choose 'a'

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:45 | Link to Comment Herman Strandsc...
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Wouldn't the world kinda get along better. Why is Mr Bobanha threatening a world reccession?

'"I'm confident that the withdrawal will be significant," he said. "People will say this is a real process of transition, this is not just a token gesture."

Yeah transvestizize off you totem gesticulator.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:49 | Link to Comment MrBoompi
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The workforce is already cut to the bone. Over half of the people have no savings and are worth less than nothing, so do they give a shit about the stock or bond markets?

The only thing that kept GDP in the black the last few years is QE, and the bankers take almost all of that for themselves.

Instead of being threatened by the elites, why aren't they being threatened with something a little more serious than a delinquent loan payment?

Something like a fucking guillotine?

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 09:47 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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I agree.  We have that option (second amendment), for now...

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:47 | Link to Comment Misean
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More lies to spook the rubes. The professional liars in Warshington are just trying to milk this for a few dollars more in bribes.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 06:00 | Link to Comment steveo
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For continuance...

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:49 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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Face it the media is in the tank for Obama and he'll win in the 2012 election. Do any of you have any doubt? The spin he plays makes president Clinton look like an amateur.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:53 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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if Obama were white , he would have no chance at re-election.....but the black vote may get him there again

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:05 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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All of them I know tell me he's not Black. They are disgusted with him and call him an Oreo.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 00:05 | Link to Comment trav7777
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gee, that sounds like racism.

why, bc he didn't pay for their gas and mortgages?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:06 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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There's plenty of room for doubt.

Obama can only win if the whole house of cards DOESN'T get blown down before election day.

Would you be comfortable guaranteeing that the next 16 months are going to go as swimmingly well as the past few years?

It's good to have some optimists around, anyways.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:51 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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the bigger they are , the harder they fall !!!

if you are already at the bottom the fall will not hurt , but for those at the top , the fall down would hurt the most.....bring on the world recession and lets hit the RESET button for ALL

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:54 | Link to Comment Groty
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>>And in order to replace the current failed leadership, they will gladly start with a new president.<<

I wouldn't be so sure.  Virtually all the blacks will vote for Obama as will all the progressive/socialist/neo-Marsits in the Democrat Party.  That gives him 35%-40% of the vote without even campaigning.

The only question is will the independents who voted for him in 2008, many of whom almost immediately had buyer's remorse as demonstrated by the shellacking he took in the 2010 mid-terms, give him a second chance.  If gas is $5/gallon and unemployment above 8%, I doubt it.  But if unemployment is coming down and gas prices come back to $2-$3, then I'd bet the independents vote to re-elect him.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:15 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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But if unemployment is coming down and gas prices come back to $2-$3, then I'd bet the independents vote to re-elect him.

No worries about that happening.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:28 | Link to Comment Herman Strandsc...
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Oh lord wont you Obam a new mercedes benz, oh lord wont you buy me a color tv....

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:55 | Link to Comment nah
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ive got an idea... lets make the children pay for it

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:03 | Link to Comment Herman Strandsc...
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'ive got an idea... lets make the children pay for it'...

Yeah but with what's left after they've been taxed. We don't want to make it too easy.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:55 | Link to Comment honestann
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The world NEEDs a major recession, if not a depression.  The dislocations caused by the artificial sugar-high booms created by the federal reserve, especially since the final detachment from gold in 1971, can only be healed by a long, deep recession or depression.  That is the only real, natural, viable cure for the dislocations and inefficiencies caused by the elitist manipulations.

Shut down the government.  Reduce the budget by $2-trillion the first year, and then cut from there.  Eliminate 95% of the departments and programs administered by the federal government, including all that are unconstitutional (not explicitly permitted by the constitution).

Better yet, just terminate the federal reserve, the federal government, the world bank, the IMF, the UN, and every other meddling organization.

Obama is a stooge, the biggest liar ever, and total jerk.  Dump everyone in government today, and close it down.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:57 | Link to Comment Wyndtunnel
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I am sure that the Fed is responsible for tripling the number of stars in the Universe to keep the U.S. debt/number of stars ratio within the realm of human comprehension.  I say let her rip!  Wouldn't want to let all that star making go to waste.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/12/01/the-estimated-numbe...

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:03 | Link to Comment Strategery
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Interpreted: 'Give me and my Wal-street crack buddies another hit or we'll destroy the planet! Just one more hit. You've always said yes before!'

Congress: it's time- JUST SAY NO!

How does continuing to travel in the wrong direction get us closer to the right destination? Sorry, Mr. President, but we have to right this ship on somebody's watch. As a public, do not let the Congress do this! Call the end of the world bluff and let's work through this.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:01 | Link to Comment Highrev
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Aside from the not so subtle contradictions, isn't this also not so subtle financial terrorism? From the WH?

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:04 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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we dont want to mess up the Summer of Recovery , its going to be even better than last summers

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:05 | Link to Comment KickIce
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He needs to borrow to pay off the unions, the dems lose the unions and they are screwed.

This is also one of the major reasons they keep proping up the market - to support the pensions.  We have another 2008 and our unfunded liabilities, both federal and state, will skyrocket.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:04 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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$43 Silver!

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:06 | Link to Comment Victor Berry
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Not to worry, raising the debt ceiling is a done deal.  There are 192 Democrats in the House who will do whatever Obama tells them to do.  That means only 36 Republicans out of 241 need to capitulate to their Wall Street overlords and vote yes.

The only snag is if the Senate waits until the last minute to act and Rand Paul or some idiot like him decides to filibuster.  At that point, one calendar day must lapse before a vote on cloture can be taken.  Looks like the making of a stock market flash crash to me.

OK, we've got a bid for the debt ceiling of one quadrillion.  Do I hear one quintillion?  Going once, twice ... whoa, did someone just bid one centillion?  Sit down and shut up Geithner!

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:10 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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Raising the debt ceiling=bullish for Silver.

Not raising the debt ceiling=bullish got Silver.

 

I love being on the winning side of any decision made.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:11 | Link to Comment Twindrives
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Sheep Dog said it right, Obama is a corporate Uncle Tom.     Silver is at now at $43.00 worthless USD's.   Fuck you Ben Bernanke, you piece of shit. 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:11 | Link to Comment Milton Waddams
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In other news, the FBI shuts down online poker sites, seizes domain names.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-15/internet-poker-entrepreneurs-charged-with-fraud-money-laundering-by-u-s-.html

All online trading sites still operational at last check.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:31 | Link to Comment Screwball
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The charges were filed in Manhatten. One would think there are other people in Manhatten they could have arrested.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:19 | Link to Comment Tejano
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"Leadership"?  Grown men and women don't  need "leaders".  Too bad there are so few of them around.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:19 | Link to Comment Smokey1
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Tarbaby sat in the pew for twenty years while Jeremiah Wright motherfucked America. Tarbaby is best buddies with William Ayers, who bombed the Pentagon and said he was glad he did.

Quit whining about Tarbaby. If you didn't vote for him, one of your neighbors did. He was landslided into office.

Chances are, your neighbors will give him a second term, too.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:25 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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I believe he only got 53%. Not a landslide by any means. When the system collapses and there is no more welfare, I hope his electorate turns on him

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:28 | Link to Comment jmc8888
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Cancel the fraud, no need to raise the debt ceiling, although the whole 'debt ceiling' bill that was enacted a few years or decade or so ago, did set up a real stupid dog and pony show that sucks up all political action of a presidential term's worth of time over the course of a few terms. 

Force us to cut for fraud, that's all it was ever for.  (remember, there was no debt ceiling for the first couple of hundred years, just like there was no free trade, etc)

Debt ceiling, is the bankster's best friend.  They can print around it, yet use it to cut public services.  Now all they need is a debt trigger and we can 24/7/365 talk about how we can make fascist tough choices for the bankster profits.

We also didn't bend over for them as bad as we didn't now and actively screw the people 24/7 as the M.O. 

...or we can just cancel the fraud via Glass-Steagall and get on to actually solving our problems so they don't smack us like we're a bird flying in front of a 747.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:26 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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Debt ceiling for politicians is like high jump bar. It is a constant contest to see who can raise it higher. Despite gravity or law of interest rates and public disbelief, someone always ends up raising it higher. Obama is shooting for the gold medal in debt ceiling olympics.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:27 | Link to Comment mendigo
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it is strange how nobody mentions the inherent hypocrisy in raising the debt "limit" - as in if you can raise it, then it is not a limit. so why do they bother raising it? i assume this is the last time - so this time it really is a limit?

how can we even discuss our state of affairs - the words we use have no meaning?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:35 | Link to Comment hannah
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+1

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 19:12 | Link to Comment Milton Waddams
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Good point, debt limit is Newspeak.

"The basic idea behind Newspeak is to remove all shades of meaning from language, leaving simple dichotomies (pleasure and pain, happiness and sadness, goodthink and crimethink) which reinforce the total dominance of the State."

Given that it is clearly not a limit, a more accurate title might be debt target or debt hurdle.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 05:57 | Link to Comment steveo
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Is that 1984?

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:30 | Link to Comment Screwball
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Since 1940 they have raised the debt ceiling 80 times.

That should tell us something, no?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:29 | Link to Comment Tucson Tom
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Do puppett strings wear out at some point from overuse? It will be embarrassing to see him fall limp on a stage at some point when they fail.Biden will never notice,`cause he will sleep right through it all.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:30 | Link to Comment mt paul
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43.01 $

silver

for the weekend

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:39 | Link to Comment Bansters-in-my-...
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"Failure by Congress to raise the U.S. debt limit "could plunge the world economy back into recession"
Since when does the world need the U.S of A to exist.???
Fuck off you piece of black shit...!!!

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:36 | Link to Comment hannah
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'half'....'fuck off you piece of half black...'....lets not mix up the facts.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:42 | Link to Comment knukles
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        Obama/Biden 
Keeping the illusion alive.

How the fuck do you manage to fall asleep during your boss's speech?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 20:42 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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Seems he was the smartest one there - he learned as much truthful information as anyone awake would have.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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He's just an America hating douche bag. But we knew that.

Bill Clinton might have been a corrupt asshole, but at least he was our corrupt asshole.

Obama is our first truly traitor president.

Iran should build him a statue.

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 20:39 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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You make some excellent points there. One had a clue at least.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:46 | Link to Comment Strategery
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People, forget your political parties. Educate the poor and middle class about forced inflation (theft). Middle Class, you pay the brunt of taxes. Get enraged about a request to go further into debt! It's time to get loud, not just witty on a truth-tellers' site. Don't waste your energies on damage already done. Expend your energies on more violations of your civil rights: that is, the right to live in this civilization without being oppressed by politicians and their banker overlords!

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 00:11 | Link to Comment trav7777
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the middle class is clearly insufficiently intelligent to understand what is going on.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 09:31 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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Most are insufficiently engaged, they have the capability but have levered their time to keep up with joneses. Now working harder and longer to keep the wheel sqeaking along..

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:53 | Link to Comment Guarded Pessimist
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I'll take the global recession please...

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:56 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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How dare you use a politician's own words against them?

It is heresy I say, heresy!

Principles and morals and ethics cannot be carried forth from one year to the next or one election cycle to the next like some mewling brat!

They must be massaged, marinated, fungible, and made sausage of!

Good GOD Man what next?!?! 

A judicial system with hearing, vision, and a memory!?!?

Blasphemy!

</sarcasm off>

 

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 05:54 | Link to Comment steveo
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Nicely said

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:57 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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Wall Street = Extortion market

Hopey = Extortionist president

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:14 | Link to Comment mrdenis
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You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:16 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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People of the world, don;t move to the USA. All smoke and mirrors and it will fuck you up. Stay where you are. Especially those with Masters and PhD.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:20 | Link to Comment BernankeHasHemo...
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Call that lying Kenyan Muslim criminal's bluff! Don't raise the debt limit. Instead vote to impeach this SOB so we can have him tried, convicted and executed for treason.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:19 | Link to Comment BernankeHasHemo...
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Call that lying Kenyan Muslim criminal's bluff! Don't raise the debt limit. Instead vote to impeach this SOB so we can have him tried, convicted and executed for treason.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:37 | Link to Comment Reese Bobby
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ZH is unique because it allows the racist nut-jobs full access, and it still works.

 

But even if you are a racist nut-job can't you be smart enough to understand all comments like this hurt the cause of the average American?

 

You really think Crying John Boehner is going to solve anything?  Study ZH and learn.  It is important.

 

I would have loved to have had an honest, hard-working, game-changing Black President.  Imagine how great that would be for the most structurally troubled ethnic segment of our Country?

 

Christ has no use for you self-centered, angry racists.  Repent.

 

Well I sure am "preachy" after just two drinks... God Bless.

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 19:39 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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I was thinking along similar (albeit a bit simpler) lines.

Posts like that give those of us who hate Obama for purely philosophical reasons a bad name.

Aw, well.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 20:38 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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If you are truly honest with yourself, have you no prejudices? Just wondering because I've never really met anyone that didn't, and that would make you pretty special.

That doesn't excuse the comments above, but there is reason some things are better ignored than 'preached' upon thus probably encouraging the 'self-centered, angry racists' just looking for another reason to get angry.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 21:08 | Link to Comment Reese Bobby
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I have prejudices because many of them are confirmed in my day-to-day living.  However, I know they are wrong.  I am a failed Christian by definition.  I can't change that.  I encourage you to read a book like "Peace with God" by Billy Graham.  A good starter book.  There is no Chapter on "Passive Ignoring."

 

My Earthly point was that "ignoring" the hate messages is not the right strategy.  It is understandable to fail all the time, but we need to recognize it.

 

Quick anecdote:  On a flight back from Mexico recently, in the front of the bus.  Stewardess asks me if I want a meal.  I say no, but I would love a double tank and tonic.  She says "what"?"  I say "which part didn't you get?" and we both glare at each other with ill will.  Then I read 75 pages of "Kings Cross" by Tim Keller and feel guilty as heck, (good book; highly recommend).  So I do the hard thing: next time stew comes by I say, "I want to say I'm sorry; this book made me realize I have behaved badly; please take the book jacket and see if you like the book; later she stopped by to say thanks."

 

Rambling answer and off-topic; but if just one person found it valuable I would be very happy...God Bless.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 22:15 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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I can empathize with you, sincerely. Best wishes.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:42 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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not trying to destroy your faith here, but to me, knowledge of the world around us, makes us stronger and more aware. besides if you base your faith on men, you will be very sorry. anyway, this man graham is a interesting character. his organization got its start with financing by a well known satanist of his time, william randolph hearst. graham is not his real name. his name was franks but he changed it to graham. graham is a 33 degree freemason. in his early days, graham was said to have had many women while he was married to ruth.  graham believes there are many ways to God. at this stage, i am afraid, that mr graham was installed , if you will, to dillute the message of Christ and to mislead and his entire organization was a controlling mechanism and a infiltration from the start.  this method of preaching where these men yell and talk loudly was invented by a man named  E Grandison Finney, who is said to be the father of religious brain washing. in graham's older age, in some of his interviews on national television, his true thoughts have come out on many issues, thoughts perhaps that he has not really dealved into for obvious reasons since supposedly he was a southern Baptist.  just somethhing for you to chew on perhaps.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:58 | Link to Comment Reese Bobby
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I take no offense. I am aware of at least the Freemason accusations  We should always question spokespeople of Christianity.  But you also need to understand that Satan is not a mythical figure.  He is amongst us, trying to find our weak points to exploit.  You will not find a messenger of Christ who is not under some kind of attack.  I am personally comfortable that Graham's preaching is a faithful to the scripture.  I love the image of a person who confronts Satan and simply says, "Jesus lives here now. Go away."

 

I have read your posts.  You are clearly searching.  I wish you the best...

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 00:12 | Link to Comment trav7777
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huh?  WTF did he say that was racist?

you white uncle toms are the problem.  Do you think that it would have made any difference to a group with an average IQ of 85 who was President?

fuck you with your desire for a "black" President- YOU are the one with the problem here.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 00:25 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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It's unfairly bigoted against Kenyans.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:15 | Link to Comment Reese Bobby
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Yes, God even loves you.  Your trick may be to earn it.  I have often found really tough guys, e.g. ex-special forces who have had to kill up close and personal to be real gentleman.  You are probably drunk on your mom's couch.  Good luck on your journey "tough guy."

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 01:57 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Honest, just make the President honest, and gutsy.

I don't care if it is a he, a she, purple or gray, bi, tri, or a beaver dam alien.

Just please Lord give me a leader with guts and morals who can cut through the B.S. - lying, cheating, and stealing that is and will strangle us and our children.

 

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 05:54 | Link to Comment steveo
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F don't be so altruistic, it will strangle us/

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 20:15 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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Call that lying Kenyan Muslim criminal's bluff!

 

Lying muzzie kenyan preznits ain't got nothin' on lying ass joo bankstas.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:28 | Link to Comment hannah
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i love this comment...'But Obama said some longer-term questions about where the government trims its operations will have to be left until after the 2012 presidential election.'

 

so no politician is going to discuss cuts before the election so that they dont get zinged by that group of leechfu%ks...LOL!

wait..maybe ron paul..mr 'you got the power to go after the fed now but doesnt'...yes ron is our man! another wolf in sheeps clothing....and cut trillions...right..!!! now that is a joke since they only cut 350mil last week not 38bil.

you cant print forever or the dutch would have done it to save the TBTF tulip cds derivative bubble400 years ago so it is just a matter of time before 'we' dont have to make a decision because it will be made for us...!

 

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 19:23 | Link to Comment aerial view
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What's the point of having a debt ceiling if we continually raise it?

It's to keep the government growing, spending, expanding credit to the elite while devaluing the currency and increasing taxes on the middle class in order to keep them in their places.

Time to eliminate all powers from the Federal govt except defense and set them on a strict budget.

Let each state design it's own programs and regulate itself.

These politicians have completely destroyed this country. 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 20:30 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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Isn't that what the 10th amendment was supposed to do till it got repealed? It did get repealed, didn't it?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 22:39 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Yeah, the Commerce Clause seems to have trumped all other parts.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 20:18 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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This would be hilarious......if it weren't so f'ng true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4vv7ymiMWI

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 20:22 | Link to Comment Jerry Maguire
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Well, this is what it amounts to:

http://strikelawyer.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/killing-the-frog-slowly-rai...

But we can still divert ourselves and remember what it was like when people had talent and did kind of amazing things to entertain us:

http://strikelawyer.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/this-is-so-cool/

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 20:49 | Link to Comment wishnoti
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Refer to other story: our young and unborn are be killed by radiation.  They can not pay it back.

This just will not matter anymore.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 20:55 | Link to Comment web bot
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This is real #uckin leadership...

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 20:55 | Link to Comment boeing747
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Obam's 2012 campaign slogan: "No, We Can't!".
No, we can't find who were responsible for the financial crisis.
No, we can't cut spendings when economy just started to recover.
No, we can't release CO2 because of global warming.
No, we can't leave behind a citizen without health insurance.
No, we can't show you birth certificate because Hawaii lost my file.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 22:36 | Link to Comment AVP
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And...

No, we can't give you your money back.

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 22:33 | Link to Comment dootyfree
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"It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies"

You're an idiot if you think treasury sales actually fund anything.  Learn the monetary system.  

" It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills"

If you ever read anything like this STOP READING.  It is operationally impossible.  Don't read things from people who don't understant the monetary system.  Political fear mongering........

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 05:43 | Link to Comment steveo
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Paying by counterfeiting is not paying, it is defaulting.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 05:43 | Link to Comment steveo
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Paying by counterfeiting is not paying, it is defaulting.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 14:38 | Link to Comment dootyfree
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Please explain.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 22:56 | Link to Comment ExploitTheMarket
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"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure...we depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better." ~Senator Barack Hussein Obama (after voting against debt limit increases)

 

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 23:00 | Link to Comment dootyfree
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That actually makes my point if you think about it.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 23:40 | Link to Comment ExploitTheMarket
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What, that obama is a hypocrite? and done just about the opposite of everything he said he would prior to being elected (par for the course for a politician...)

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 23:49 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Hello Barry Soetoro. Have you hugged your derivatives lately?

1.5 Quadrillion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuVXiFDhh-E&feature=related

BTW TOTUS, you'll need to engage on a more stringent fellatio schedule with your master. Your "Save The World" based on carbon tax credits to float your budget is not going to work.

Tree Hippies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r47MZjlI3_M

You sure have those Americans/Global Community fooled on the blame game. Bwahahahaha.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 23:53 | Link to Comment Bansters-in-my-...
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Oh boy...Raises all round for the Rothschilds

Fuck you Obama....

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 00:15 | Link to Comment Vendetta
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bullish for PMs

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 00:19 | Link to Comment Bansters-in-my-...
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Yup...Sounds like domestic terrorism to me...

Fuck you terrorist Obama.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 00:25 | Link to Comment Bansters-in-my-...
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Bullish for PM's is good for the Rothschilds too.

They most likely have more than the U S A ,

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 00:51 | Link to Comment Conchy Joe
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He warned of dire consequences if the debt ceiling is not raised before it hits its limit of $14.3 trillion; the administration says the latest Congress could possibly act is by early July. But Obama said some longer-term questions about where the government trims its operations will have to be left until after the 2012 presidential election.

Biggest piece of shit ever - no one else is close. Much like all of his other unfunded mandates (i.e health care), the real costs are set to show up after 2012 so he could be re-elected. This should be a criminal offense.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 02:53 | Link to Comment Questionman
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The racists here are in full swing. Not the author, the idiotic readers. blunderdog, you claim that one of the the idiot commentors is giving a name to people who hate Obama on a "purely philosophical reason". Sorry, but i would like to call bullshit on that because that's what it is. Almost everyone here follows the same teabagger racist mantra of Obama hatred, i wouldn't be surprise if you were liberterians, proving you're as stupid as the conservatives and the right.

it amazes me how uninformed most of you are spewing out just plain lies and false statements. at least take the time to research what the hell your talking about. I understand the frustration with our government but god man get your facts straight!

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 08:08 | Link to Comment Catullus
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You call bullshit.  That almost everyone is a racist here and then claim that some of the people here are libertarians (people who read a lot know how to spell without spell check). You rile against people for their false statements and lack of research.

All of this is interesting.  Yet I don't see any actual substance. All I see is reactionary platitudes common in those who constantly deny the reality of the situation.  But you should be thanked by everyone here.  You see, when you launch into these nothingburger attacks and then attach "racism" to it, you destroy the impact that that word has on everyone else in society.  It no longer becomes an attack. It's no longer taboo. It's just a word used typically by someone who has no substance to their argument.  It can be written off as someone saying "um" and "like" and "you know" a lot.

I do have a problem with your use of bullshit though.  I really like this word.  I find it be extremely effective in normal conversation and it will more often then not incite some sort of impassioned, thought-provoking, introspective exercise. But what I love about bullshit the most is that anyone who uses it should know that it's going to come back strong on them.  And if they invoke bullshit and then back it up with nothing, there's a special pleasure in ensuing person who calls bullshit on the original caller of bullshit. 

So to this end, try to actually contribute to the dialogue here. I would hate for bullshit to lose its meaning.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 09:14 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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Wow.  You're fuckin' nuts.

You call me out by name to lump me in with the libertarian/teabagger Obama haters?  "Almost everyone" here?

Check your targets.  If you think I'm a libertarian or teabagger, you haven't read my corpus. 

I happen to be disturbed by the very loud and hateful contingent here myself.  It's just not worth bothering with them because, in general, the loud/stupid/hateful will ALWAYS overwhelm the thoughtful and reasoned posts on the innerwebz.  Lowest common denominator and all that.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 06:10 | Link to Comment tellsometruth
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"Ooops, did I do that?"

 

Obama has a Steve Urkel moment.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 06:46 | Link to Comment cranky-old-geezer
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America's destruction commenced in 1913 when the Fed was created. 

The Fed is the root cause of the Great Depression and every major calamity since.

Who cares about a few bankrupt zombie TBTF banks being kept alive by Fed cash infusions since 2008?  The Federal government has been a bankrupt zombie TBTF institution kept alive by Fed cash infusions since 1920.

We're in the final stages of America's destruction from endless currency printing.  The rest of the world is losing faith in US FRNs now.  Granted, it took 98 years to happen, but it's happening now.

It may take another year, maybe two years, maybe three years, for all faith in US FRNs to be lost. That will be the end of America.

It's not about Obama vs Bush. It's not about Democrat vs Republican.  It's not about politics at all.

It's about a central bank issuing the nation's currency and printing endless amounts of it at will. 

It's about transferrring wealth from the people to the bankers via endless currency printing, otherwise known as inflation.

It's about destroying the living standard of the American people by stealing all their weath via endless currency printing, otherwise known as inflation.

It's been happening slowly since 1913.  The US FRN has lost 98% of it's 1913 value.

We're in the final stages now.  We'll see massive currency printing from here on out.  Massive inflation.  Massive increases in prices of all commodities. 

Forget the fucking dips.  Back off and see the big picture.  This is the endgame.  It might be one year. Maybe two years.  Maybe three years.  But we're approaching the end of the road now.  The end of America. 

You think other nations are going to sit back and watch their trillions of US Treasuries go worthless without retaliating?  

Don't be so foolish.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 08:01 | Link to Comment Ned Zeppelin
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And the holders of financial assets, who actually control things, will not allow their assets, including FRNs, to become worthless.  There is an end game, but it is not one that allows FRNs to turn into toilet paper.  It will be one that turns us into debt slaves to serve that requirement.  Or there will be revolution.  

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 07:58 | Link to Comment TK7936
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The USA is to big to FAIL!

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 07:58 | Link to Comment Ned Zeppelin
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"And in order to replace the current failed leadership, they will gladly start with a new president."

Yeah, that'll fix it.  

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 09:00 | Link to Comment almost_have_a_name
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Bankers   Gun--->  President

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 09:10 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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While you "almost have a name", you do have is an IP address; expect company later today.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 09:10 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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I read that as the Banker's gun to the head of the US is this president. Good luck getting 12 people to find a threat in that post.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 09:38 | Link to Comment bhakta
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Omabma has taken the cake as the all-time liar amongst all presidents of the recent and distant past. He is spineless; he is a hypcrite. I am pleased I never beleived his BS "Change you can believe in" mantra.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 10:33 | Link to Comment IMA5U
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sadly, the first black president is just perpetuating a stereotype...

 

he is good at stealing......

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 10:39 | Link to Comment blindman
Sat, 04/16/2011 - 11:19 | Link to Comment Dr. Impossible
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At this point i wish to question the validity of the education received at any and all collegiate levels, any degrees received, at any level, from US institutions.. from my napkin math, it appears "students/graduates" have an ability to fiscally manipulate debt loads till degree is received (with a potential of not earned through academic achievement) regardless of the students performance. Evident by "national and private student lending programs" performance. I've read to understand, repayment is only around a mere 45% of the interest currently being accrued, is being paid down on these loans, further indebted nation as a whole, by way of credit rating disinformation(akin to my belief of  what "fraud upon the court/perjury" is.

 It is apparent, this received education has lacked a teaching in basic fiscal discipline. and further, potentially aided to this crisis by way of pushing lending akin to these failing new-age "financial products" of the past 4 decades. The fact of this loan performance(or lack of), must be recognized as to how this could have happened, as I am sure, each student had plenty of time to inspect these loan agreement prior to signing them. I must bring into question their competency. As to include all receivers of this education in question, the grads who paid bill in cash. Why have they not found this situation previously, as it has directly affected the costs for(and access to) education( i should add this, ....competent education). secondly, they had FIRST HAND EXPOSURE, with an ability to publicise these practices as this time has passed.

 

 

update: yesterday i ran an add in a community that had been identified as one of MSNBC's "crisis capitals" Elkhart, IN. I offered $22 per hr (which is more than my wife the doctor brings home) for workers willing to earn it...no experience necessary...on job training, aswell performance based pay structuring. I received ZERO REPILES,so i rescinded this offer, as i really don't need the labors, i was just trying to offer work for those that want to.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 11:41 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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This isn't a society that encourages people to think for themselves.  If you repeat conventional wisdom and common knowledge long enough and consistently enough, *most people* will internalize that message.

This doesn't mean there's something wrong with those people.  It's the dominant human trait.  The people who refuse to internalize consistently-pushed thought-systems are generally thought of as a pain in the ass, and marginalized, persecuted, mocked, etc.  Once in a very great while, one of those assholes achieves something spectacularly great, and then the common response is to laud him for his refusal to accept predominant views.

Most of the time, though, they just live rather unfulfilled lives surrounded by people who are more willing to accept what they're told.

Welcome to the human species.

You want to blame the kids for failings common to virtually everyone?  Ick.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 15:50 | Link to Comment Dr. Impossible
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BUAHHAhhahaHHAHAHAHAHhahHA......ahahahhahahahahhaahaaaahhha.

So, are you saying, had Hitler only smoked pot...we wouldnt be in this situation?

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 20:54 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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Yeah, basically.  That was where J-man got the idea for his song a few years back.

"I vass goink to commit genocide, but zen I got high."

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 02:17 | Link to Comment Rick64
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A lot of truth in those words, well said.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 10:58 | Link to Comment blindman
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the education, if any, is received after, keyword,

the documents are signed.  neat

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 14:10 | Link to Comment blindman
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGaTfGHELV4&feature=youtu.be

.

let's go kite a check! ... i mean

fly a kite.  apologies  ..

like the constitution it is " just a

damned piece of paper" .  ....  the kite too.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 11:31 | Link to Comment blindman
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from max ...and dan..

http://maxkeiser.com/2011/04/16/ote105-on-the-edge-with-jerry-robinson/comment-page-1/#comment-281774

Dan
Apr 16, 2011 at 4:09 pm

The reason we are debt is entitlement? really…

No the reason we are in debt is because money is debt and so debt can only accumulate whilst you try to pay off the current debt.

If you grant a government authority to tax you say 20-30% you ARE entitled to the benfits this was the only reason you granted the government the authority in the first place.

The government need not go into debt it could has all the funding it could possibly need via direct taxation and the monotizing of its own bonds to create currency debt free.

When are people going to see it? Debt is created because you opened the door to the middle man (cartel of banksters) who create from nothing and loan at interest to the government thus indirectly indebting the people.

There is no need to grant these private corporations the privilege to issue the public’s credit, it is somthing you have been accustomed to all you life so you accept it as normal.

You aint gonna fix shit by debating within the box.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 11:37 | Link to Comment michigan independant
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It is what you can do, not them. It cannot be repaired unless you do it yourself. We will be held acountable on how we treat the very young and the very old. Only then will your character be revealed to whom you serve. You must respect the Office only, and fight for what is important. They are not the issue, you are. Plan as such for the safety and security or be found a fool. Remember that it was never about you in the good times so find those only who care about our future now. They cannot and math is a language.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:24 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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Interesting part of a story most people seem to have missed amazing how he knows this but does the opposite..

""I had the emir of Qatar come by the Oval Office today," Obama said. "Pretty influential guy. He is a big booster, big promoter of democracy all throughout the Middle East. Reform, reform, reform. ... Now he himself is not reforming significantly. There's no big move toward democracy in Qatar. But you know part of the reason is that the per capita income of Qatar is $145,000 a year. That will dampen a lot of conflict.

 

"I make this point only because if there is opportunity, if people feel their lives can get better, then a lot of these problems get solved."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/15/obama-disappointed-lack-cool-phone-oval-office/#ixzz1JhhNSi2M

 

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 14:47 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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Heh.  Well given the per capita income here in 'Murka, maybe *we'll* even start moving toward democracy.

Wouldn't that be a kick?

 

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:38 | Link to Comment docj
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Hope!!

Change!!

WINNING!!!!

Bring on the freaking collapse, already.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:57 | Link to Comment sellstop
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Gold and silver are going up because of money printing, right?

So if the debt ceiling is not raised, and the govt. doesn't need to borrow from the fed, that will be good for the US Dollar, right?

And the money from the POMO that is recirculated into the stock market will cease, right.

Stock market goes down. Dollar goes up. And gold and silver go.....?

Goog broke down. A leader biting the dust, so to speak.

Most of the steel stocks look weak. Ditto for copper.

Many of the gold and silver stocks are looking weak. The penny stocks are soaring...

If the end of the world comes, in the form of a govt shutdown, money will become scarce. Confidence will be shaken. It will be deflationary.

Everybody expects inflation. I've noticed that when everybody expects something it usually ain't happenin....

Cheers,

gh

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:01 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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The debt ceiling will be raised. The money will be printed.

The welfare promises require it.

Plan on it.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:13 | Link to Comment PulauHantu29
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"Fool me once, shame on...."

Wait, how does this go again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:15 | Link to Comment blindman
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pmetals are and will go up not only from

recovery printing but also from the nature

of the credit money system itself.  if this system

is maxed out, credit/debt saturation, the true

value or nature of pmetals becomes......

significant and a bird in the hand is worth .....

 

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Urban Roman
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Is that sort of like the Mayor of Okuma demanding that we do what he wants, or he'll blow up one of the reactors at Fukushima Dai-ichi?

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:43 | Link to Comment mkkby
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Not that I like O, but he's right.  Don't raise the ceiling, the banks fail and with FDIC broke we all lose our money.  Or do you really have EVERYTHING in PM's?

We need to get rid of fractional reserve lending and the Fed first.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:43 | Link to Comment mkkby
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I should add, any President that pushes for that would end up like JFK.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 18:07 | Link to Comment trendybull459
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It looks that "Resession Fear" which governments use against people is a trial to put us from foots on the head,facts is:Resession of the 2008 had bring Gold to 680,Silver to 10$,Oil to 35$ and apparts which costed 500k$ into 170k$ price no buyers,it also brought the Lehman Brothers and Bear Sterns into collapse with the FED and Goldy Saches help to usurpate the power of the controlling futures,as mentioned Bear and LEhman was 2and 3places trading commodities,so bringing them into floor was meaning taking from them the control.What do we have now on front of those rejected "Fears" of the Depression,Resession"?We already have:125$ oil(113$),we have 1478$ Gold,43$ Silver,the houses plunged from 2008 till now from 500k$ into 170k$ no buyers into 150k$ no buyers or even 100-130k$ no buyers and tripled cotton,food-everything you use.And what are gonna mr.Obama to tel us,what kind ofears he try to sent to us now when we have "No fear" because we do not know what we gonna to do tomorrow with such prices other that to crash the White House or similar to Orange Revolution or just Blocada of their "unvisible inflation"!The inflation is killing all countries world around:the producers selling goods into weak dollars meeting high expences on domestic level becoming bankrupted,do you know that change into currency by more that 15% kills the exporter?Their margins mostly at 20-40% range at best and move by 10-15-20% against is killing whole industry!All this FED and USA Government knows and hoping that instead those countries will rush to buy their goods priced in dollars?How stupid their as on domestic level Americans can not wonder no one with their products,also many of it made in chine and people preffer to pay more for German made instead to buy american made in China.This is a costly experiments and cariera costly things,but as it said in russian those guys going "Va Bank" or "put all on this cone of the game" and as you freequently know-they will loose,so,its time ticking bomb which explosion will be much stronger that Fukushima wave.America would be abendon by many nations for those tricks and no one will be care if its Obama,Bush or ever crocks failure ,specifically FED,this nation will carry burden of the panishment by untrust by other natioons and betrailing to all world population by absolutly inactive for changes citizens."Dont' cry for me Argentina" song will be replayed as "Don't cry for me America" meaning that many people world around will just once together buycott americans products and goods-also nothing from food should be bought as its all genetically modified and its better to by own genetically modified food so at least you know to whom complain!What is left then?Dollars which degradeted by the group of FED and Government crying about "Strong Dollar " policy in front of the World?Who they thinks they are???Liars who thinking they are smart leaders?This includes all current powers at stake-all of you are liars,because no one of you excluding very few who had hold into not expending credit bubles and all of you who had see solution of your own problems and failures to made for our accounts!!!Damn you,Short You ,Get out from your positions as you failed and there is no trust to you ever!Liars!And whats left for you people?Pray,Pray and Pray-before you have to lose freedom to pray!

Obama calling us into fear of Depression/Resession to happend and asking for more money for those who had cost it to happend,generally he asking money to let them able to continue to make distruction of our world and people wealth,everyone know knows Who is Who and no one could be brain washed for second time excluding americans,they are the nations making such leaders that World have to suffer,but they are still happy and inactive to do any changes.Pitty for you,then we World citizens will do our changes to your inturnal dollarised system from our point of view,dont' cry for US America!Ignore american products and let World into Depression,we have nothing to loose,but we can benefit something as other will becoming like us-more landed to earth and poorer as result of landing from their flying baloons of the FED pump gas station!

Fri, 07/15/2011 - 05:46 | Link to Comment hama
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we feel privileged as the fragile link to life is so precious in more ways than one. But the same position experienced with a dour sailor's chord as living thread feels like insult being added to injury... there lies man's illusion of freedom. If we die grasping for gold we feel life was exciting while it lasted. If we die retching from cold we feel cheated before and after...to the same extent, double whammied.
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Fri, 07/15/2011 - 07:35 | Link to Comment hama
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same position experienced with a dour sailor's chord as living thread feels like insult being added to injury... there lies man's illusion of freedom. If we die grasping for gold we feel life was exciting while it lasted. If we die retching from cold we feel cheated before and after...to the same extent, double whammied.
cheapest car insurance

Fri, 07/15/2011 - 16:51 | Link to Comment hama
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The normal guy/gal is scorned here but for what?? Not understanding the effect of Fukishima on the Llama prices in Zimbabwe?? If no one here can agree on anything how does a non-math or non-economic person have a hope of understanding.
Spider Mite Spray

Fri, 07/15/2011 - 18:23 | Link to Comment hama
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Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, selecting Defense Secretary Robert Gates to remain as Secretary of Defense, nominating Eric Holder as Attorney General, nominating Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano as Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
spain travel

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 15:59 | Link to Comment pama
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I could not find any other channel that was Obama clear. Go figure. Soon we will have 24/7 Obama Shows, with the greatest speeches. I am investing in Teleprompters.
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Sun, 07/24/2011 - 09:10 | Link to Comment pama
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It's given me a lot to think about as reviews editor moving forward. It seems everyone has different thoughts on what a review should do and what the role of a reviewer is, and it's enlightening to read your thoughts. Thanks everyone.
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