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What politician or economist, other than the morons already around Obama, want to put their name on a depression? I don't care how many economics degrees you have, when the PTB force you to lie to people, there is no way I want any part of that. I wouldn't let these idiots put my head on the chopping block when this ponzi collapses in epic style.
Really, who would take this job? Only someone wishing to live in fantasy land...
he doesn't believe he's lying...he believes the bullshit.
This is what I keep saying about economists. They are in a fishbowl and won't acknowledge that there is anything outside of the tank.
As for this guy, hmm...with a surname like Diamond, anyone want to take a stab at whether he represents any "diversity" to the Fed board?
"Analytical expertise is needed to accomplish this, to make government more effective and efficient."
LOL, as if this would ever happen. Ie: The climate change looting the living shit out of the masses fraud. Analytics at it's best...
This schmuck isnt qualified to clean up the shit on monday morning.. let alone lick my balls...
True, but he's a white guy http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2011-06-06-peter-diamond-fed_n.htm
Too bad Travis. Perhaps one day you'll wake up.
jfc you are stupid.
His ethnicity represents NO diversity from the Fed board.
And, no he isn't a "white guy."
What was it you said about waking up, dipshit?
He looks kind of white ? Oh, you mean he's a Joooooooooo ? Monedas 2011 Unofficial Spokesman for the Jooooooish Peeple !
The guy who played Screech was Dustin Diamond. Is this Screech's dad???
Nobel Peace prizes are awards for the 'useful idiots' that believe TPTB bullshit, (said bullshit) created by former Nobel Peace Prize award winners in order to win THEIR awards.
When Cassius Clay learned his olympic medal meant shit (i.e. segragation/racism still applied to him), he threw it into a river or some body of water.
Could this idiot do the same with his Nobel?
Only if he is capable of breaking with groupthink.
What a bullshit angle to a story (good chance to lament anything Nobel though... very insightful)!
How about commenting on the group (of children) you helped send to Washington (throw the bums out) blocking any and all nominations regardless of qualification... yes, doing the peoples work again. But then, we wouldn't get the peasantry going like the good old tried and true Nobel (Obama) bashing would we... more "red meat" for the Tea Party crowd please!
Ha! I wouldn't accept a Nobel Prize in Economics if you paid me!
(Please don't tell the Nobel Prize committee I said that)
And most Obamabots think that Krugman is god himself. Mwahahahaha.
nobody tell Krugman his one validation of his life's work, has just been downgraded to junk.
Krugman shares will rebound, it is long-term, for live investment.
We probably get a small fall back in dark ages of PM based money, but ongoing intelligence decrease of humanity is in a secular trend, so they will win in a long term.
I have it on good authority that it only costs $5 to dig a Nobel prize out of the ground...
Precious metals to present good buying oppurtunity after a near term correction?
Gold and silver showing signs of weakness, and oil is confirming.
what a whiner this economist is. He is probably over at krugman's house crying .
Troll patrol ! We meet again ?
Shut the whole fucking quagmire down...a PhD in how workers and jobs come together. What a pile of useless horseshit. All of them, put them on a barge and sink it.
so many PhD's that should never be awarded ...
economics is a pseudo-science to begin with - what does it mean to hold a PhD in a pseudo-science? are PhDs in economics and PhDs in astrology equally valuable degrees?
psychology of religion? really? a PhD? WTF?
PhDs are just part of the higher-education circle-jerk and the Nobel Prize gives the holder entry into a more exclusive circle of jerkers
Agreed. Many PhD's are just a form of intellectual hazing, to conform individuals to a group. Not much different than law school or a bar exam...etc.
Beyond intellectual hazing, these just create an illusion of intellectual superiority and a fiction for universities to monopolize billions in research funding.
That said, I'm considering one myself.
I do not have a PhD, but almost all of the people I work with have them. A singular quality among them is they are really smart but get nothing done. Typically, I'm brought in to take charge of projects that are being run by a PhD. The project is way behind schedule and about to get its funding pulled.
I'm in month 4 of a new job led by guess what - a PhD
this guy is the most challenging person I have ever worked for - he's smart enough to navigate the political environment at work without actually doing any work
not doing any work includes not giving any meaningful / actionable direction to the people who report to him for direction
the PhD was hired because 'PhD' looks good on proposals when the company is bidding for new work - evidently there are still people in the world that think 'PhD' means something of value ...
yes, this is a DoD project - our tax dollars hard at work ...
these economists are part of a clan that has a long and distinguished history of self-deception. They seem to like to hand out prizes to each other reminding themselves how indispensible they all are to the world.
That a prize in economics could have the same standing as one in physics is a joke. Nobel in numerology should be next, then perhaps psychiatry, another dismal science from the same clan
The prize in economics is not a Nobel prize. The prize is called the "Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel" and was never mentioned in his will. From the Nobel Prize website
In 1968, Sveriges Riksbank (Sweden's central bank) established the Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel, founder of the Nobel Prize. The Prize is based on a donation received by the Foundation in 1968 from Sveriges Riksbank on the occasion of the Bank's 300th anniversary.
A central bank bribed its way to the right to abuse Nobel's name. Economics was never mentioned in Nobel's will.
How apropos.....they created false prestige for themselves by manipulating the Nobel market.
This nugget of info should be a disclaimer on any article where the term "Nobel Prize in Economics" is used.
It's a fucking bullshit "award" and was given to an asshat like Krugman, for example, as a political statement only.
Here in Sweden nobody cares about the "nobel prize" in ecumentics or whatever. Its a bullshit award for bullshit people, a fake award that is like pissing on the grave of Alfred Nobel. And imagine that people still cares about it... surreal.
Remember the Judge Bork nomination to the Supreme Court. He was a solid believer that the constitution was not a "living and breathing document". If someone of good moral character gets rejected by the elites, then to me that rejection is worth 100 nobel awards and 20 PHD's.
PhD in religion is the biggest joke. Let's have a PhD in "The Lord of the Rings" too! They're both fantasy. If they'd just change it to a PhD in "Mind Control" instead of "Religion", then I could agree it has a use.
religion IS mind control so it's really just semantics, isn't it?
Microeconomics is an enormously useful business efficiency tool. "Mainstream" MACROeconomics is slowly being revealed for the bullshit scam that it is. The "South Park" boys hit the nail on the head when they showed the Treasury honchos using a decapitated chicken to choose their next policy move.....
Great episode. Iconoclastically delicious. When the truth tellers are Rolling Stone Magazine and South Park... the end may very well be near.
*meh* in the past such social critics included Firesign Theatre, Monty Python crew, Spike Milligan, Village Voice, LA Weekly, Detroit Free Press, George Carlin, Richard Pryor. . . I could go on, of course - but the bottom line is there's always a group on the periphery pointing fingers at those who believe themselves the center of the universe, and usually the same percentage of cynically aware folk to acknowledge the finger pointer's "truths."
You mind if I add Tom Lehrer?
For the uninitiated
There are plenty of economists who have correctly predicted the inflationary effects of the stimulus, the lack of jobs it would create, and the lingering systemic risk. Maybe you need to open your eyes a bit and realize not everyone is a "bought and paid for" Keynesian.
Maybe--sometimes we certainly go overboard on both the "Keynesian" and eCONomist memes, imo. It appears to me that in this case the "Keynesian" Fed and the RepubliCon congressional coven is taking no chances on a substantive and sustained dialogue about employment developing in their own house.
That would be extremely dangerous to their program and goals.
Not to suggest, of course, that the DIMocrats are using this nomination as anything more than their usual feckless charade of giving a shit about the common man.
And not to forget, Hayek shared one in 1974 for contributions to Austrian School economics (von Mises having died in 1973), to balance out, so Rothbard speculates, the grant to Gunnar Myrdal. http://mises.org/daily/4082
Here’s the marvelous Hayek-Keynes smack-down, part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQnarzmTOc
The ones in power are bought and paid for. Most of the good ones go elsewhere and are disregarded by the MSM as being incompetent. An example of where the good ones are is mises.org in Auburn, Alabama.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with how Keynesian theory works. The problem is in who is appempting to implement it and how they are going about that process.
If you take that money and dump it into make work projects which also greatly improve the nation (infrastructure), then you see a nice artificial boost in the short term and due to increased efficiency due to the investment it is all entirely worth it in the long term. How much do you still rely on the old public works projects from the 30s? (hint: it's a lot).
It worked out pretty damned good in China, we never really got hit by a "recession" here at all. In the US however, all the money just got thrown at the banks, finance and rich in hopes of creating jobs... which of course it didn't. Could have taken that same money and actually invested it in projects that would benefit America.... but that would be crazy socialism I guess.
economics is not a hard science...it has enough math that it pretends to be, but in reality economics has more in common with psychology and english than chemistry of physics
"in reality economics has more in common with psychology"
we don't have an 'economy' - we have billions of human beings interacting with one another throughout the course of their lives
it is too hard (impossible?) to model the interactions of human beings so economists develop economic models as a substitute
these models work at least 70 or 80% of the time which is enough to get the economists their PhD's, Nobel Prizes, 7-figure incomes in govt and on Wall Street, etc
when the models break down the economists always point to extinuating circumstances - it's not that their model is wrong, it's that 'this time is different because ...' or 'nobody could have forseen ...'
ie, the economic models are BS, the PhDs (both the degrees and the individuals) are BS, all of the rationalizations and justifications offered by the PhDs when their models fail is BS - am I successfully communicating the idea that granting PhDs in economics is BS?
Agreed WB7. Perhaps you can do something graphically ;)
It's a bit difficult to bring workers and jobs together when the productive sectors of the US economy are dead and gone. Obviously this concept is not in this egghead's narrow area of expertise. Sometimes I welcome what's coming. Let it all burn.
Too funny. We have own World Bank President, Nobel Prize winning dude, Amratya Sen here in India. He is another student of Poverty. Funny how all these students of poverty have never been or lived poor. Ever. PhD needs to be abolished. That kind of vertical specialization stratifies and calcifies, obvious in the very edifices they have helped build.
Time to listen to The Kinks:
And it would also be nice to make academic types accountable for bad theory enactments ie such as globalization being good for US economics.
Academics need to understand the insular tenured must publish something world is not a qualifier.
The position requires a nonacademic real productive mind with real world experience.
There are quite enough Obamas in office already that the real world players are already having to overcome.
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