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Obama Scrambling To Replace One Crony Egyptian Government With Another

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Thu, 02/03/2011 - 21:26 | 933279 william the bastard
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Why can't MuBarak Hussien Obama be nominated. Sounds about right.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 21:50 | 933365 william the bastard
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss? Not

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 21:55 | 933388 Michael
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The Israeli Zionists responsible for the murder of US servicemen has never been punished for their actions.

The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy torpedo boats, on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and one civilian), wounded 170 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest of the Egyptian city of Arish.

See the true story here;

Dead In The Water - The Sinking of the USS Liberty

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3319663041501647311#

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 22:12 | 933443 william the bastard
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The Palestinian Islamic Army, which has links to al Qaeda, carried out the New Year's Day attack on a Christian church in Alexandria, Egypt, that left almost two dozen people dead, Interior Minister Habib al-Adly said Sunday.

January 23, 2011|By the CNN Wire Staff

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-01-23/world/egypt.church.attack_1_copts-egypt-muslim-guard?_s=PM:WORLD

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 22:26 | 933486 Michael
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Could have been CIA/Mossad involvement. They do that kind of thing all the time to provoke resentment. Don't be afraid of "The Base"

In Arabic, al-Qaeda has four syllables. However, the closest naturalized English pronunciations include /æl-ka-d/, /æl-ke-d/ Al-Qaeda's name can also be transliterated as al-Qaida, al-Qa'ida, el-Qaida, or al-Qaeda.

The name comes from the Arabic noun q'idah, which means foundation or basis, and can also refer to a military base. The initial al- is the Arabic definite article the, hence the base.

Bin Laden explained the origin of the term in a videotaped interview with Al Jazeera journalist Tayseer Alouni in October 2001:

The name 'al-Qaeda' was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al-Qaeda. The name stayed.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 22:32 | 933509 william the bastard
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24 Christians were murdered in a church. I don't think it's a false flag operation if that's what your linguistic derivation is proposing. The criminals are identified clearly.

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 22:38 | 933520 Michael
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I've seen hundreds of  American teen agers die from texting in car crashes. What is your point?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 22:52 | 933562 ThePhysicist
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I think he meant to say you're an idiot for turning the obvious into an absurd conspiracy.

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:01 | 933588 william the bastard
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;)

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:08 | 933609 Michael
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Yeah, I got that. But keeping things in perspective can save us trillions on nonsensical war expenditures.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:05 | 933599 jeff montanye
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i believe his point is that the bad guys that he doesn't like somehow change the meaning of the bad guys you don't like.  it is known as false equivalence since anything, truly or not, associated with fighting palestinians or, lord knows, al qaeda is not quite in the same ballpark vis a vis the u.s. govt as an entity a vet of which just resigned as chief of staff to the president and which gets supermajorities of support from both houses of congress anytime it wants. oh and all the latest killing stuff and more money than any other country.  repeat:  it's called false equivalence.  

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:10 | 933616 william the bastard
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;)  ;)

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:19 | 933635 Michael
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Also: Cognitive Dissonance

Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling(a state of mental conflict) caused by holding conflicting ideas simultaneously. The theory of cognitive dissonance proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance. They do this by changing their attitudes, beliefs, and actions. Dissonance is also reduced by justifying, blaming, and denying. It is one of the most influential and extensively studied theories in social psychology.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 00:52 | 933837 dark pools of soros
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unless you have multiple personalities that agree to disagree....

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 01:14 | 933868 High Plains Drifter
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Sometimes they can hear it and see it and sometimes they can't. Goes with the territory and its a sign of the times we live in , a time when men call evil good and good evil.  Yes one day, perhaps,  they will see, when they are on their way to a extermination camp somewhere in this country, camps that have already been created and are waiting for those who dare to think outside the box, those whose minds are not right, those who see things as they are and say what is on their minds without fear of retribution. I have long feared that what we are seeing in Egypt now , is a  false  event being orchestrated by outside forces, forces unseen. How unfortunate for those who have died there  wanting something better for their children.  Now that they have suspended all live feeds from Egypt, I fear for those  people there. I fear for their  safety.  Let us see it for what it is and know that one day here, perhaps, similar things will be done to us.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 01:50 | 933915 Alienated Serf
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what is happening in egypt is the end of the orchestration, not the beginning.  we are losing our grip.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 02:17 | 933946 High Plains Drifter
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I don't know. They turned off live feeds in Egypt. Now according to CNN, they are trucking in the goons now and I figure they are going to attack the people in the square where they have held out now for over a week. Nobody in the world will do a damn thing about it either, that is what pisses me off. We talk about wanting democracy but that is not what we want. That is not what this country's government has ever wanted, much more so for the muslims, much less so for us. As I have said before, the beast will not go quietyly into the night. The pearl of great price, another words whatever it is , the Egyptian people really and truely want, must be taken by force and much blood will be required. As it is there, it is here or anywhere in the world for that matter. People think they can deal with the beast and sit down and negotiate with the beast, but you cannot do that with it for it is not designed like that. It does not care for any of us and it only knows power and greed and total domination. When one goes against the beast, one must be prepared to go all the way, of if anyone is not prepared to do this, then one should not even show up, that , that is what it is all about, metaphorically speaking of course.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 03:17 | 933996 Michael
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The Tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants from time to time.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 08:55 | 934189 velobabe
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also remember, pussy withdrawal†

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 07:59 | 934116 Bringin It
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HPD - "Distant Mirror" is a book about the 14th century and the premise is that those times mirror these times.  In the book, every time there is a revolt, say the weavers guild in Ghent has revolted over high taxes or whatever and taken over the city.  The feudal lord shows up with his army and they erect a tent.  They then tell the rebels that they hear their valid concerns and want to parley.  The rebel leader/leaders come out and are quickly dispatched.  The rebel army freaks out and collapses.

This is an English example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Death_of_Wat_Tyler_Froissart.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasants%27_Revolt

So you're right.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 05:50 | 934041 Mentaliusanything
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High plains drifter - in a nut shell you have contained all the facts. Now the dark side takes back what it fears losing. Predicted noted typed and printed. Not here (trolls) but now they sit up and say --- SHIT What have we allowed.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 22:37 | 933516 tmosley
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The CIA has links to al Qaeda too.  They CREATED them!

Look at every strongman and dictator on the planet and you will find the CIA was either responsible for putting him into power, or was responsible for putting the prior dictatorial regime into power, and the current regime rebelled and set up shop.

But hey, Israel first, amirite?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:08 | 933595 william the bastard
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"Look at every strongman and dictator on the planet and you will find the CIA was either responsible for putting him into power"

 

Complete crap!!! Every single one, eh? ~ Oh, forgot!  You're an expert on every subject. 126 weeks on Jeopardy.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:10 | 933615 jeff montanye
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hey!  you left out his second part about the immediately prior regime.  final answer?  close enough to slide on poetic license.  

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:13 | 933625 william the bastard
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You stole his comeback ;(

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 00:45 | 933824 pods
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We also had a big hand in creating the Muslim Brotherhood.  Pretty much every terror organization on the globe has our fingerprints on it.

pods

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 06:25 | 934050 bigkahuna
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Western Goals, Bellmont Brotherhood, JBS, CFR are entertwined also.

 

http://watch.pair.com/jbs-cnp.html

 

I consider the CFR a "soft-kill" terror enabler.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 00:53 | 933840 chindit13
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You need some time outside the lab out in the real world.  I suggest Waziristan.  Take time to sit in a teashop and discuss your theories with the shebabs.  Make sure you get traveler's insurance before you go.  And don't bother taking photos;  we'll see it all on the internet later.

Ullah ya teek il 'a feeyah!

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 01:20 | 933880 High Plains Drifter
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You have 6 junks already ?   And to think. How disgusting it is to see our officials calling for peace in Egypt when our armies are all the while killing innocent people in wars that we should not be in. The irony of it all is rich and the hypocrisy is so noticeable.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 01:47 | 933913 Michael
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You can actually see all the creepy crawlers on the web trying to shut people up on the subjects they don't approve of.

I really like that junk button. It really gives you a good idea how many there are here at ZH.

May of the junkers are just people brainwashed by the MSM to junk you every time  they see words like Israel, Zionist, conspiracy, etc.

I thought this Egyptian revolution was supposed free people from being shut up. 

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 01:57 | 933928 High Plains Drifter
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Mike, its a dirty job but someone has to do it. Perhaps you are young man. I am old. My day has come and gone, and now it is your day. You know what you have to do. Its not going to get any easier. This I know.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 02:49 | 933975 Michael
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I'm almost 50 and have been around the block a few times. I have managed to always have an open mind and never shirk from controversy. I never try to shut people up no mater what words come out of their mouths. I have been told; a thick skin this one has. I can understand why some people get brain farts when they hear certain words. They have been trained that way.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 03:04 | 933984 High Plains Drifter
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I stand corrected sir. My bad.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 02:25 | 933958 chindit13
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I believe all sides to any argument on this site resort to the same tactics you attempt to ascribe only to those who see the world differently from you.  Internet bloggers can brainwash just as effectively as the MSM.  Unless you have absolute first hand knowledge and experience regarding your point of view, you are merely taking sides with those who share with you what is known as "an opinion".

Reasonable people admit their limitations.  Unreasonable people are not aware of their limitations.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 03:44 | 934000 Michael
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The blogosphere can also crowd source a particular subject at lightning speed, ruthlessly sifting fact from fiction.

You have to take the good with the bad. Sometimes you get embarrassed by your own misconceptions.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 08:03 | 934122 Bringin It
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They are not equals.  I'm happy the MSM has a counter weight.  It's good for the world.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 19:33 | 936413 Ahmeexnal
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It is neither Egyptian, nor a revolution.

But we get the point. You are a JP Morgan/Rockefeller/Ratzinger lackey.

 

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 09:27 | 934257 Treeplanter
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Saudi Arabia funded Al Queda in Afghanistan, they were soul mates in those days.  We sent our aid through the Jihad loving Pakistani army intelligence people who wouldn't fund non fanatics.  The CIA did some covert aid runs to those people, some of whom were very effective against the Soviets while the Al Queda focussed on creating the myth of their importance. You have bought into a false assumption that morphed into a popular conspiracy kept alive by the gullible ignorant.  Stop being played for a fool.   

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:12 | 933620 Bringin It
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Bastard - find a better source.  No one believes CNN.

BTW - The Egyptian security apparatus has already tortured to death at least one local Egyptian Wahhabi-ist accused of this crime.

This is what the LA Times says

"The violence lately has taken an ominous turn. In November, the militant group Al Qaeda in Iraq announced that Coptic churches in Egypt would be targeted until two priests' wives who were allegedly locked up in Coptic monasteries after converting to Islam are freed. Al Qaeda militants in Iraq have also referred to the women in justifying attacks on once-vibrant Christian communities in Baghdad and around Mosul."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-egypt-church-attack-...

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:20 | 933634 william the bastard
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Nightmarish. Nonetheless the story is evolving whether your news source is a Hobson's choice between CNN or LATimes.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 01:25 | 933884 High Plains Drifter
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http://www.maskofzion.com/2011/01/alexandria-church-bombing-mossad-who.html

that church bombing in egypt was a mossad operation from top to bottom. they do the same thing all over the middle east. now then, perhaps you can tell me why they would do this? think about it. why would any muslim do this? what for? it makes no sense. what good would it do for muslims?

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 03:38 | 933980 Michael
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The Egyptian revolution, as with the Tea Party movement,  and the Arizona shooter not being led by anybody, absolutely makes them crazy when they can't pin it on more than one individual or group. The people are learning how to get their point across without a leader. People are learning how to be their own leader and not a follower. 

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 08:06 | 934124 Bringin It
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Astute point.  Collective consciousness.

The people are learning how to get their point across without a leader.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 09:32 | 934275 Treeplanter
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See Sandmonkey's last blog before he was nabbed by Mubarak's Gestapo.  It's at Powerline.  He may have been released because the thugs discovered he had an international following. 

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 03:37 | 934004 Michael
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William, I suppose you want me to come over there and wash your dick for you too, you little shit.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:27 | 933657 downwiththebanks
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Well if Egypt's Interior Ministry said it, it MUST be true, right?

Way to stand on the right side, William the Bastard. 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 22:48 | 933547 ebworthen
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Fascinating.

Nice way to dupe the U.S. into nuking the Arabs.

Fri, 02/04/2011 - 01:27 | 933888 High Plains Drifter
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they came within a eyelash of dropping nukes on cairo, i kid you not , over that liberty ship thing.  look up on google, operation cyanide. 

 

of course russian subs were parked off of the coast of israhole at the time, and if this had happened, they were under orders to turn the land of israhole into a high temperature environment and they would have too.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 23:12 | 933622 Popo
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Wow. Michael hijacked the thread with inane Anti-Israeli propaganda in only the second comment. Way to go Michael, you're bringing the standards of ZH crashing down faster and faster every day.

Whichever organization you work for must really not want us discussing Egyptian democracy. It's an old Middle Eastern trick: want to stop any productive discussion about Arab policy? Ready, set: Zionists!

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