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Obama Scrambling To Replace One Crony Egyptian Government With Another
Just out from the NYT:
The Obama administration is discussing with Egyptian officials a
proposal for President Hosni Mubarak to resign immediately, turning over
power to a transitional government headed by Vice President Omar
Suleiman with the support of the Egyptian military, administration
officials and Arab diplomats said Thursday.
In other words, the formerly biggest spook of the Middle East, and quite possibly a former CIA asset, is about to become president, under the auspices of a US-endorsed "democratic" transition, which does nothing but replace one crony regime with another.
The proposal also calls for the transitional government to invite
members from a broad range of opposition groups, including the banned Muslim Brotherhood,
to begin work to open up the country’s electoral system in an effort to
bring about free and fair elections in September, the officials said.
It is disturbing that the US administration does not comprehend that the Egyptian people (not to single out the MB) are sufficiently intelligent to see just how superficial this proposed "regime change" is. The only thing remaining is for George Soros to be propounding the benefits of "Open Society" on the streets of Cairo within weeks.
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How many people did the progressive Clinton's send to this thug for information extraction? Hillary has this guy on her speed dial.
Naming this guy to be the actual guy in charge of Egypt was a very strong signal. A weather balloon. When a guy like that gets named in times like these times, what is likely to happen is written on the wall. Guys like that do not get named to lead negociations. They are named to lead violent crackdowns and repression.
So the Egyptian tyrant fathomed the waters. He waited for the various reactions. It is all about secong guessing what his protectors really wanted. The Egyptian tyrant's stayed in power for 30 years. He knows the rules. You dont always receive orders. Sometimes, you have to show initiative, second-guess the boss. Good for him as he stays clean handed. Good for the puppet who shows he can satisfy the desires of his master without the master formulating them.
The slack given by US president Obama was the kind of signal the egyptian tyrant expected.
What is going on in Egypt is worse than Tian anem square. Supported by the US.
Hey Tyler,
rumor floating around that Hillary has called all Ambassadors back to D.C. for a weekend pow-wow. Can't verify... any thing on your feeds?
That's a relief! Problem solved.
The situation is spinning out of control for TPTB. The popular resistance and violent demonstrations throughout North Africa and the Middle East are likely to intensify. The "contagion" is rapidly spreading. The expression "geopolitical crisis" is quickly taking on an entirely new definition.
The Charter of the United Nations
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/index.shtml
CHAPTER XIX: RATIFICATION AND SIGNATURE
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2. The ratifications shall be deposited with the Government of the United States of America, which shall notify all the signatory states of each deposit as well as the Secretary-General of the Organization when he has been appointed.
3. The present Charter shall come into force upon the deposit of ratifications by the Republic of China, France, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America, and by a majority of the other signatory states. A protocol of the ratifications deposited shall thereupon be drawn up by the Government of the United States of America which shall communicate copies thereof to all the signatory states.
4. The states signatory to the present Charter which ratify it after it has come into force will become original Members of the United Nations on the date of the deposit of their respective ratifications.
Article 111
The present Charter, of which the Chinese, French, Russian, English, and Spanish texts are equally authentic, shall remain deposited in the archives of the Government of the United States of America. Duly certified copies thereof shall be transmitted by that Government to the Governments of the other signatory states.
IN FAITH WHEREOF the representatives of the Governments of the United Nations have signed the present Charter. DONE at the city of San Francisco the twenty-sixth day of June, one thousand nine hundred and forty-five.
Nobody here - including me, knows what the hell is going on behind the scenes, we just guess based on our own mental makeup. Somebody will likely turn out to be right, but it will just be a lucky guess.
while you are correct in that we do not know what is really going on behind the scenes...Is it not obvious, though, what the will of the people is? In the end, that's what matters.
Maybe it is what should matter, but it is not always what happens.
"Somebody will likely turn out to be right, but it will just be an educated guess."
Fixed!
BTW, I agree. (as I pop open another beer)
Maybe, if you can provide some data that shows educated guesses are better than non-educated ones. Remember monkeys throwing darts at stock charts?
Okay, I'll classify my guesses as "uneducated". It likely won't change the manner in which I process information, but hey, this is all just an academic exercise anyway. Right?
It's probably tough to apply the scientific method to political science or game theory, so I will make no attempt to distinguish between hypothesis, theory, or Law.
You are right. Everything is an academic exercise until it involves violence or death.....and only then becomes non-academic to the victim.
I still like the idea of sending in BB on a camel with a megaphone to tell the Egyptians how this is all just a misunderstanding. There actually is no inflation, and no money printing. They just need to adjust their CPI so that it doesn't include food or oil.
chomsksy's take on events in egypt & middle east
http://nakedempire.wordpress.com/
It's easy to piss on the US military-industrial complex but for the sake of integrity you should offer cogent solutions between that approach and an Iranian type outcome (which still hasn't run it's full ultimate negative course). Our policies were learned by the failures of pre WW2 isolationism.
The world is lucky these Egyptians don't have any guns. If this happened in the USA it'd be a diarrhea mardi gras in a cat 5 shitstorm
I seem to recall long ago...an assassination..of Sadat...replaced by his VP...
No real change..the issue will be whether the MB can oust the control of the Intel community. I suspect the military is holding it's cards close and will be smart and go with the victor. Suez is a non-issue since most larger ships transit the cape and more oil crosses via pipeline. The rise in oil is a speculative at best. Great way to hide the real issue....oil is finite.
American interests are served best by having a weakened Egypt. I'm not talking about Wall St., DC. or anything but the interests of the American people.
I don't care a whit who rules Egypt as long as their grip on power is tenuous.
Egypt is psychological....maybe 8% of goods transit the Suez...the trip around the cape maybe adds 8 days..not exactly a game changer. The issue is Israel...though I love the Israeli attitude...the US is weak...we need to condense our power around ourselves. We are too spread and too weak (on so many fronts). Time for the US to step away from the world...fix the domestic with full 100% attention...before addressing world issues.
Obama is scrambling to get this thing settled by Super Bowl, so that he can enjoy the game with J Lo. That's all.
no no the super bowl is a welcome distraction...just like the roman games. the US is the Roman empire in it's last years...
The Packers will be fed to the Lions? (Had to do it.)
the Pittsburgh Unemployed Former Steelworkers
Yeah, the First Bow Wow will be over at Oprah's place, plotting revenge.
They need to get this transition done so that they can then start arresting everyone as a Muslim Brotherhood extremist.
What do you mean possibly a cia spook. Of course he is. We got a preview of how they operate with some investigative reporting in guatemala. Everyone of any importance in the third world is on the.cia payroll. If you are a third world government official and the cia is not getting money sent your way by one means or another, even insider trading tips, then you are a nobody.
Great headline; spot on!
Obviously, nothing like this will be seen or analyzed in the headlines of the MSM. Americans will be able to celebrate a "victory for democracy," take pride in yet another ME accomplishment (like the "withdrawal of American combat troops -- except for the 50,000 still there -- in Iraq, and focus on the really important things, like Superbowl Sunday.
They will get the same kind of ' Hope and Change ' America got... none! I guess the great orator needs to speak personally.
A break from the Rock Fight...Meet the New Boss..yea yea (same as the old..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE
Tomorrow marching orders from the Imams..
It's hard to comprehend outcomes, but facts always reveal the truth.
http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/MESO/SUMER.HTM
Just as nervous Bernanke spoke today, civilization's fall and rebuild. The bubble business has been around for a long time. No need to acquire multiple PhD's to understand the unsustainable collapse ahead.
Edit: Your new world has been already drafted up on paper/laws. One more crisis will initiate the long planned out scheme.
So whose facts do you chose to see the truth ?
I guess I'm not supposed to find an article like this..
http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/news/middle-east/2009-israel-places-...
I guess not...
An official in Benjamin Netanyahu's office said that the Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu called Suleiman, who is also the director of Egypt's General Intelligence Service, and expressed his concern about the situation in Egypt. Netanyahu apparently suggested the possibility of Israeli intelligence personnel undertaking various specialist operations to bring an end to the demonstrations.
Like this kind of specialist operation?
As part of the false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned targets. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, ... with the aim of creating a climate of ... violence and instability
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_affair
Another crony Egyptian government is a crapload better than an Islamic government lead by the Muslim Brotherhood.
An American-hating, women-stoning, liberty-crushing, brain-dead government isn't in the best interest of anyone but the little-boy-porking mullahs.
Do you really think these are the only two choices?
It seems a lot of Egyptians won't settle for anything less than a chance to evolve into a classic liberal democracy. They see the prosperity and relative freeom the Iraqis have (so far) and say why not us? I suspect a lot of Arabs don't want the dictatorship of the theocracy. This thing may not be played out for months, yet.
As I read your post, all I could think was: "Jingoistic, Islamophobic, Ignorant, Racist, Scumbag".... but I mean that in the best possible way and with all due respect.
Fear of Islam is the number one meme being installed in the minds of americans by their media right now. This kind of reactionary Islamophobia is a primary symptom of a captured mind. Chris Mathews, Rachael Maddow, Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Vanderbilt et al have some more kool-aid for ya'll, all the latest flavors.
++Well said.
Ignorance of Islam is dangerous. Quote the Koran and you are smeared for hate speech. Islam is having its last hurrah, bloody and brutal, but doomed to fade away.
We all know who the worst cronies are that need replacing, and they are not in Egypt but mostly right here in the US ruining our economy and country with paper.
Yes.
While the Mubarak regime is certainly ugly, history is full of examples of ugly regimes that were replaced by horrific ones. The reality is that government in Egypt is currently based partly on coercion and that is not likely to change by next September.
Obama should not be trying to dictate the next Egyptian government and definitely should not interfere with Egyptian attempts to restore order. If the people who are currently trying to maintain order in Egypt start to worry that a new government could come into power next September which might be inclined to prosecute them for what they are doing now, they might just stay home leaving no one in control. All then all hell might break loose.
So, cold as this may seem, I think Obama should just look the other way as the Egyptians restore order. Once order is restored, he could work privately and behind the scenes on some incentives for the Egyptians to gradually open up their political system over the course of next decade or two. It simply isn't realistic to expect decades of dictatorship to be replaced by democracy in a few months. The US did not introduce dictatorship into Egypt, they created it themselves. And it is not our sole duty to fix it (although we should be willing to help if we can).
Also, if the US forces a new system onto Egypt and it works out badly, the US will be blamed. (Of course, the US is automatically blamed for anything that goes wrong in the Middle East, but there is no reason to do things which would encourage this.)
Poor Uncle Sam: always getting blamed for things it had nothing to do with, right?
Well I've traveled in the Middle East and if you just let people talk without trying to contradict them, you will be amazed at what the US gets blamed for. From earthquakes to the AIDS virus, the US caused them all. The Russians invaded Afghanistan on express orders from the US. We ordered Iraq to attack Iran and Kuwait. And the CIA engineered the assasination of Anwar Sadat and masterminded the attack on the World Trade Center.
Of course, the US has certainly played a heavy-handed role in the region in the past 70 years and is definitely responsible for a lot of things. But when talking to people you get the impression that they feel that the US can do virtually anything with a snap of the fingers. As if they had been watching old episodes of "Mission Impossible" and actually believed them.
A number of Iranians have told me that after taking over the US embassy, the Iranian government painstaking reassembled all of the shredded documents they found, compiled a list of all Iranians mentioned in any of the documents and executed them as spies. Apparently, US embassy officials are trained in hypnosis and can convert anyone into a spy by merely talking to him.
Apparently, you think disinformation is an art form, but you aren't much of an artist.
Once again it's a key test of Pax Americana: can we manage to engineer an outcome favorable to the US in terms of oil? That's the only thing that matters. Because Middle East security is a hodge podge of accords and agreements with autocrats. And we're very familiar with the domino theory. And mistakes in the Middle East are very costly.
So Obama is trying to put in someone already bought off who'll benefit enormously from being pro-US. No surprise here.
In 1919, after the Egyptian revolution, the Jews, Coptic Christians and Muslims ran the government together and lived together in Egypt under a secular constitution. There was even a Muslim on the Zionist agency to help repatriate Jews back to the Middle East. They felt it was their duty to help.
It all changed in the 1930's when the Nazi's weaponized the newly formed MB with virulent anti-Semitism. Sharia Law was already as their foundation, but hatred for the Jews is a new phenomenon.
The Muslim Brotherhood is already calling for closing the Suez canal and war with Israel -- and they're not even in power yet. Mubarack only came to power when the MB assassinated Sadat because he made peace with Israel.
The MB is the mothership of the radical Sunni Islamic groups. Hamas and Al-Qaeda are just offshoots of the MB. Al-Qaeda is more nihilistic and wants to just kill everybody now. Hamas is the Palestinian MB.
Underestimate the
You are 100% correct. Everything will go to hell soon.
Collapse is coming, I hear it everyday!
Doomers or Baby Boomers?
Baby Busters?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPDaiP1w5YA
alCIAda is run by Uncle Sam. Always was.
MB is totally bought-off, too.
Everyone who says this gets junked on ZH, but it's the truth.
Pure B.S.
Israel will shove a half dozen nukes up anybodies ass who tries to destroy them. Nuff said.
I don't doubt it. I mean with a shrug of their shoulders they'll illegally attack an unarmed vessel in international waters and murder 9 human beings just to stop them from bringing food and basic supplies to a people they have dispossessed, systematically encased in a ghetto and are now in the process of slowly strangling to death... half a dozen nukes? Hell, that's conservative. I imagine they'd hit that big red button 'til the magazine went 'click', and that's only if they respected the target.
Lies.
But the MB may be helped into power by the west and encouraged to turn on Iran to compete for dominance of the region. A Sunni arabic bloc and a Shiite Persian bloc might form in the ME leading to a conflict which the west and Isreal could use to strengthen their grip ni the long run and weaken Iran.
You see, the MB is an asset of western intelligence. As is "Al-Queda".
All this nonsense just to be the first half white president.
Hey, its just more "change we can believe in"....
the Egyptians should just ask the Americans who voted for Obama!
Come on fellas, go easy on that piece of crap in the Oval Office and his fugly wife.
Hosni Mubarak is winning this game of chess, and his current move is to take out foreign journalists. Once they are gone, he is free to do as he pleases. While he knows such a move will destroy relations with the US (and many might well say "about time"), Mubarak also knows he has both Russia and China waiting to move Egypt into their spheres of influence. Russia would be happy to take back what was once theirs, and China, never one to take offense at brutal crackdowns and twice a practitioner of such tactics in the last 22 years, would like nothing better than to exert greater influence over one of the world's most important trade routes, the Suez Canal.
Chinese have more money, better food and are farther away, ergo better patrons.
I guess you'd need all three of those to qualify as "better patrons". I've got a front row seat on how China deals with its allies, and it is not pretty. Environmental degradation, slave labor, human trafficking by the PLA to capture "wives" for a land who gender demographics were decimated by a One Child Policy in a people favoring male heirs.....
where they gettin the wives from?
Is this how they do their business? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2F4ZWTjwTU
From what I've seen China treats it's allies better then the US does. So far this year America has tried to overthrow the leadership of four puppet states of theirs, presumably in order to cause choas in the region. They scam them with their world reserve currency, they smuggle drugs through these nations sometimes causing a complete breakdown of order as in Mexico.
On the other hand China BUYS (not seizes) resources off it's allies. Otherwise they stay out of the soveriegn affairs of their allies. The environment is pretty far down my list of priorities at the moment, with 40,000 a day dying of easily preventable diseases and malnutrition. US multinational corporations, the ones that ZHers adore for being so "free market" are more then happy to use China's pool of slave labor in order to increase their profit margins. Don't like it? Then shut up about "free markets" call for some trade tarrifs, the shutdown of the WTO ect.
They have much in common with the US.
The US: forcing countries in treating their toxic/radioactive waste, extensive search for always cheaper labour, human trafficking in South American and elsewhere to provide organs for US citizens, various preferences of people based on skin colour and wealth, leading to mass policies of mass abortion.
The bulk of Egyptian weapons are US, and they need spares, maintenance and upgrades to stay strategically relevant for more than 90 days or so. No doubt at some time in the future China or Russia could supplant the US as their supplier, but not in the immediate future, and a populace and government who is scared to death of both Iran and Israel, the loss of a total US involvement in their military is a very difficult thing for them to accept.
I appreciate your point, but I believe that maintainance is more critical with regard to strategic weapons such as fighter aircraft, radar and missiles. To contain their domestic population, guns and tanks are probably sufficient, and even the M1A1 tanks might be within the capabilities of already-trained military personnel. That would buy time for an anxious Russia and China to compete over strategic arms sales.
You are correct in that aircraft avionics requires a great deal more maintenance as opposed to most military equipment. However, a couple of points...the M1 tank "turret" systems are almost as sophisticated as a foreign-sales F16 avionics are, and the information to maintain these is not always given to foreign buyers of the equipment, both for security and capability reasons, and to allow US based contractors the opportunity to maintain them. Second, I was not referring to the eequipment the Egyptian powers-that-be might need to control their populace, but the effect the loss of the foreign-supplied technology and weapons and maintenance and so on would have on the Egyptian military, and their confidence to deal with an outside threat. That could be the negotiating position the US could use to get rid of Mubarak, via threatening the Egyptian military.
It will prove interesting. The negative thought one could place into the head of Mubarak might be, "suppose one of your neighbors, fearing the direction your country might head, decides to do a pre-emptive strike before the Russians or the Chinese have a chance to outfit your military?"
Don't know about the turret on the M1, but if tourists stop flocking to the Pyramids, Mubarak can always use unneeded Egypt Air jet engines to find replacement parts for the M1's powerplant! And those horses and camels did the trick Wednesday.
Military's tend to panic when their capabilities get stunted, even if a realistic threat is not on the horizon. Plus, their capability and their professionalism is what gives them status in Egyptian society. Take away their tools, and subject them to international condemnation for their actions vis-a-vis the protesters...I do not think that is a scenario the Egyptian military wants to consider. The "turret" in an M1 tank is kind of a euphemism that describes the sophisticated electronics that controls its auto-leveling gun and aiming systems....most of the controls are mounted in the turret....thus the nick name. And, I am not sure how intimidating an invasion force of half-starved jack-asses would be to the IDF.
The government of Iran has openly expressed the desire that the Egyptian government should be overthrown. And Iran already supplies weapons to its proxies in Lebanon and Gaza. Would a nuclear-armed Iran be daring enough to supply weapons to an anti-Egyptian insurgency? That is a question that might keep me up at night if I were an Egyptian general.
No. Nuclear explosions can be traced quite easily to their source based on the signatures of the components in the fallout. All that is required is to know the mechanics of the assembly, the components in the physics package, where the active nuclear elements came from...i.e., what elements used - U-235 or Plutonium..the active elements; U-238, beryllium and tritium. All carry the signatures of their manufacturing process, information of which comes from the designers and builders of the facilities to produce such materials...and, Iran's nuclear capability has a lot of foreign input. Plus, would Iran risk their device falling into hands hostile to them? Hands of which there are many in Egypt.
That is a question that might keep me up at night if I were an Egyptian israeli general.
Well BB, if I was an Egyptian citizen, the torture career of Omar Suleiman is what would keep me up at night.
Interesting. IMO Chindit you are seeing this all wrong. Yes, China would love to do this and Russia would love to do that, but the "Northern Neighbor" will not let Egypt go out of the US orbit without a fight. You misundeerstand the chain of command, who Hosni reports to.
But we'll see.
Bogey men are required to explain why the US maintains its grip on Egypt.
No matter how bad Russia and China can be depicted (and we have a lot of imaginative people in the West, who get paid for their efforts by the way), neither China or Russia are currently in the US position.
Calling for a worse alternative works wonderfully. Can never hide the current reality, though.
http://www.sandmonkey.org/2011/02/03/egypt-right-now/
I posted this link on another thread, thought I would share.
http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/01/the-torture-career-of-egypts-new-vice-president-omar-suleiman-and-the-rendition-to-torture-program/
Wow, That big font sure made me pay attention to your post. I reckon everybody should start posting that way.
C'mon Egyptians, do what the Americans won't do and jam this fucking shit right up Obama's ass!
Once things get going over there you can get some good tweets from evanchill and Gsquare86 on Twitter. One is al Jazeera producer and the other a 'socialist activist' for whatever that's worth. Both going back into Tahrir Square soon. All the video has been eliminated so that's the only live information there is.
And, is the sun up in Cairo (or anywhere else) yet? Lookie here:
http://www.daylightmap.com/?lat=0.000000&lng=0.000000&z=2&t=s&c=1&m=a&hl=en
Thanx for the link, been looking for somethin' like that!
I wonder if Saudi Arabia in the next couple of months will face something like this? If this uprising is successful then it will spread. It is too late for this revolt to stop,the opposition has gain support from the people and ther eis not turning back. Things have changed Egypt. Even if Sulieman he can continue the status quo of secret police,torture etc. The egyptian people are not scared anymore. Israel has 300 nukes,a powerful military. I do not see why we must continue to give them foreign military aid. They have becomed to dependt on us that if we have a dollar collapse 10-20 years from now they will be alone and not know what to do. I think it better for us not to give foreign aid to any foreign nation. Let the chips fall where they may,nations must learn to depend on themselves. This does not only apply to Israel,it applies to Turkey,pakistan,Iraq,Saudi Arabia,Kuwait,South Korea,Germany,India,Egypt.
Government Document Captured from Egyptian Thugs 4 February 2011, Europa & Palestine News (Kawther Salam) http://www.kawther.info/wpr/2011/02/03/government-document-captured-from-egyptian-thugs
Thanks. A useful playbook.
This is Frank Herbert (Dune) territory. So many head fakes and games, the doc describes the actions of the police but it may be a fraud itself. Confusion seems to be the main weapon of the regime. I see the army being positioned to be the savior. They know they have to keep the Jihadis in check and at least pretend to move toward representative government to keep the American equipment coming. They love our stuff. Keeping the peace with Israel is vital for future prosperity. The Ikwan were laying low, pretending to be mild mannered Methodists and fooling plenty of pundit geniuses in the West. Dumb move to expose their agenda.
"They have becomed to dependt on us that if we have a dollar collapse 10-20 years from now they will be alone and not know what to do."
On multiple levels, this has got to be one of the dumbest fucking comments I have ever seen. 10-20 years more of wasting our fucking money on the Israeli war machine. Naw, could'nt be that anyone, even the dumbest mf on this website could think that this kind of insanity could last more than 1 or 2 years more. Right ? Dependent on us ? Comical. Israel sells sophisticated weaponry to the Chinese and even the Iranians. Anyone willing to pay. They don't give a fuck. We pay Egypt, we pay the fucking Israelis. WE ARE BANKRUPT. IT IS INSANE THAT WE WIRE DIME ONE OUT OF THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW...LET THEM FUCKING KILL EACH OTHER...NO ONE GIVES A FUCK. If we have a Dollar collapse ? STFU with the stupity.
WE ARE BANKRUPT. IT IS INSANE THAT WE WIRE DIME ONE OUT OF THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW
Madhouse - I agree. This is why the banks were bailed out. Not to "save the USA". the US would have been fine and in a lot less debt. The bailouts were to save the other entity.
I hope they can avoid killing each other though. I think the longer there is no peace, the more likely they'll wind up killing each other.
Please don't go nuclear on this one. I gotta hunch.
Not going to happen. No party either directly involved or on the periphery who possesses nuclear weapons has any reason to contemplate their use, no matter what the outcome in Egypt.
Swiss lawmakers are calling for the ouster of U.S. diplomats implicated in an illegal surveillance program in Switzerland...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iLYc3RoDb8cSA2sxQWtuIU...
That would be CIA agents acting in-country as diplomats....the norm.
I wonder how long before 'stabilization force' is landed in Egypt...
There are other lucrative jobs after passing through the revolving door of USGOV besides 'guest lecturer' and working for one of the Squids -- lobbyist for authoritarian regimes in emerging markets.
An interesting/funny perspective on hypocrisy in US-Egypt relations.
Via Twitter
C0d3Fr0sty Anonymous
by horitweets
K found a live feed in #Egypt via mobile phone. it comes and goes.. heres the link http://bit.ly/g4frDV #Cairo #jan25
You can't come up with the truth any better.
That's all this administration does, wrap crap up in something that sounds ideal, but filled with many devils in the detail.
I trust the Egyptian people are smarter than us when it comes to beleiving the crap that comes from this administration... 'if we don't bail out the auto and financial industry our country will be doomed!'. Things are much better now, right?
Hard to tell which is more embarrasing - Obama's "Amateur Hour" Foreign Policy team, starting with The Won himself, desperately trying to get out in front of this whole "people revolution" thing so they can claim credit for it, or their now flailing madly to do anything they can to stop self-same "people revolution" from giving us Iran 2.0
Pathetic.
The US will propose only what is promoted by AIPAC, JDL, and Isreal.
Count on it.
Chindit. See above.
From The Guardian:
1.10pm: There have been tensions between religious groups in Egypt in recent months. Today, religious leaders have stressed their unity. We told at 12.41pm how at Friday prayers in Tahrir square, the Catholic cardinal in Egypt reportedly linked hands with a Muslim cleric. Al-Jazeera English now reports that Christians in Alexandria formed a security cordon around the Muslims while they knelt for Friday prayers.
Beautiful...
"It is disturbing that the US administration does not comprehend that the Egyptian people (not to single out the MB) are sufficiently intelligent to see just how superficial this proposed "regime change" is."
Disturbng maybe, but not surprising. The American sheeple are complacent, fat and uneducated. The elitist power brokers are smug in their view of the slaves of Egypt as being even less able than their American counterparts. Here's where the arrogant make their misstep and the chink in the armor gets bigger. Egypt will be ruled by the will of the people. The pricks are increasingly impotent and they will fall to their doom. Allahu Akbar bitchez.
Just read that Mubarak is offering to put the ex-minister of the interior on trial. If they are indeed openly sacrificing their own in hope of appeasing the masses, it may cause the NDP's powerbase to crumble rapidly as loyalists suddenly do a stampede out of the altar room. One of the NPD members more attuned to reality was already on Al Jazeera a couple of days ago, mentioning how the 99% of ordinary NDP members are basically regime victims who benevolently tried to help the Egyptian people with the means available to them but where stalled by Mubarak and the top percent of the party.
Omar Suleiman - Torturer in Chief
They better not put this guy into power...
http://aliran.com/4321.html, http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/01/the-torture-career-of-egypts-new-vice-president-omar-suleiman-and-the-rendition-to-torture-program/