Obama To Veto H.R. 3808

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Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:29 | 632771 LoneStarHog
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Who sent this F**KING SOB a PAIR?

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:46 | 632842 tmosley
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No-one.  This is the most cowardly thing he could have done.  It just happens to also be the best thing for the market.

This is prima facie evidence that Obama in fact serves no master but himself.  He merely does what is in his own by definition short term interests.  The same goes for any politician.  If there ever was some vast conspiracy to create a one world government or anything like that, it would be doomed to failure the second that it became politically expedient for some powerful politician to veto it.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:58 | 632905 pan-the-ist
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tmosley, obviously nothing he does is good enough for you, is it?

Time to take off the politically slanted tinfoil hat.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:24 | 633087 NOTW777
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you win - free obama pom poms

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 16:06 | 633435 Red Neck Repugnicant
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@ tmosley

I agree. You and I think the same way.

Obama is trying to turn America into some sort of perverse one world government (as you stated), that combines African politics with Nazi and Marx influences. 

I've heard from confidential sources that the next Chief of Staff is a real Maasai Chief straight from Kenya - Adolf the Maasai Warrior, or something like that.    

How long before ObamaCare (which is just thinly disguised eugenics) will create a nation full of basketball players? Our grandmothers shouldn't have to hide in our bunkers!  That's bullshit! 

I truly fear for America. Who is Obama?  Why is he black?  Why was he born in Kenya?  Why is his name Obama - that's a fucking weird name. 

We need to return America to its rightful owners...people like you and me.

I want my country back!! 

Palin/Beck 2012

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 16:03 | 633495 Ein Stein
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Think--- and think again.

If that does not work, please read this:

http://www.thedailybell.com/1425/IMF-Article-Predicts-New-World-Order.html

It is now official.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 19:59 | 634019 hardcleareye
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That was a good read!!!! Your reference article was good but the actual Spiegel article by Brinkbaumer was chilling..........  Is this for real??  Anybody else read this article?

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:01 | 632904 svendthrift
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I don't trust him.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:30 | 633047 Ripped Chunk
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This will be back slightly altered for his signature after the elections.

Credit the internet community for exposing this. Our congress and senate work for the banks. I will not capitalize the names out of disrespect.

VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS UNTIL WE HAVE LAWS THAT FORBID LOBBYING AND CORPORATE POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ANY SOURCE !!!!!!

THIS WILL TAKE 4 OR 5 ELECTION CYCLES TO ACCOMPLISH. WE ARE TALKING 10 YEARS SO STAY VIGILANT IF YOU WANT A COUNTRY THAT IS FIT TO LIVE IN.

 

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:13 | 633285 Miss Expectations
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Here's one you might not have heard about:

S510 Food Safey Bill.  Kiss you local, small farm options GOODBYE.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/s-510-12-reasons-why-the-foo...

 

From Campaign for Liberty:

As I said earlier, our own Senator Richard Burr (R-NC) is still a cosponsor of this bill.  Despite the surge in demands for limited, constitutional government, Senator Burr still can't see how bad this bill is.  That's why he needs to hear from you!

Contact Richard Burr's office today at 202-224-3154 or email his office at chris_joyner@burr.senate.gov.  Tell him to join Senator Coburn's stand against this bill and to vote against it when Congress returns next month.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:16 | 633295 Ripped Chunk
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Like I said, all of these scumbags in the congress and senate need to be gone. That needs to happen for the next ten years until the law changes and these turd sucking fucks understand WHAT THE ELECTORATE DEMANDS !!!

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 20:08 | 634033 Bringin It
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Dear Ripped - Here I was all happy that Obama finally did something right and then I saw your post.  Unfortunately, you're probably right.

I always appreciate and usually agree with your posts.  However, I think your belief in an electoral solution is uncharacteristically naive.

I mean look at this bill - passed on a voice vote.  Nobody cares about the electorate.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:35 | 633142 pyite
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Fix this stupid headline you MORON.

A pocket veto is exactly the same as signing it -- 100% the opposite of a veto.  It is arguably the most asinine term in our political system.

 

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:32 | 633368 JonNadler
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A pocket veto is a legislative maneuver in United States federal lawmaking that allows the President to indirectly veto a bill. The U.S. Constitution requires the President to sign or veto any legislation placed on his desk within ten days (not including Sundays) while the United States Congress is in session. From the U.S. Constitution Article 1, Section 7 states:

If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a Law, in like manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a Law.

 

 

 

 

you're dumber than I am

 

You can't eat gold

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:34 | 633380 nedwardkelly
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Yeah... I also just assumed 'pocket veto' meant he'd actually veto it... But that only applies if congress adjourns in the next 10 days. Otherwise it is passed into law by default.

FYI for anyone else: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_veto

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 17:28 | 633743 RichardP
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But that only applies if congress adjourns in the next 10 days.

The bill must be returned to the body where the bill originated - in this case, the House of Representatives.  On Sept 29, the House voted to adjourn, pending the clean-up of some last-minute business.  That was a week ago.  If they have not left town, they surely will before the next 10 days is up.  No one left for the President to return it to at the end of 10 days.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 19:37 | 633976 Kina
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The more spite and mallice inserted into a comment the greater the chance the poster is totally wrong, as in pyite's silly effort. More polite ways exist.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:35 | 633379 Zan
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A pair of what -- pink shoes to match his dress?

edit: remove duplicate info; apparenly i am slow today

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 17:32 | 633751 pamriallc
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as many people who live in a police state would mention (if they were allowed to speak) is that under a dictator, the power of that dictator actually improves by maintaining a system at the ragged edge of chaos.

the idea that this VETO helps people is ridiculous.  importantly for any dictator, it *creates chaos* in which case everyone is so busy protecting themselves from the IRS bogeyman, the SEC bogeyman, the FINRA bogeyman, and these fine organizaitons are adding staff members by the HOUR in service of our great dictator. 

yes under a system in total chaos the *real problems* are swept under the rug as everyone lives in morbid fear of the *authorities* who do nothing more than tax the common people in glorification of themselves.

one need not look further than Venezuela with Chavez to understand that one need not have an organized system in order to achieve one's political means.  one only needs a totally chaotic system in order to loot that very system while everyone worries about themselves vs working "collectively" on real solutions which actually improve peoples lives.

what this action accomplishes is precisely the problem most Americans fear the most:  granting more power to the "Populist State" through whom all things are controlled.

"Bankruptcy of Moral Compass"

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:30 | 632772 goldmiddelfinger
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I'm not for the bill but it shows O's got no guts

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:34 | 632786 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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The controlled demolision of the U.S. continues...

Inside job i say.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:35 | 632787 Clark_Griswold ...
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Lawyers, sharpen your pencils.......

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:56 | 632893 NOTW777
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you hear that celebration hollar from the trial lawyers

obama campaign contributions rolling in

free homes for everyone

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:06 | 632911 pan-the-ist
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.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:00 | 632949 pan-the-ist
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That talking point didn't take long to surface... Those evil liberal lawyers.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:05 | 632987 NOTW777
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now dont spill your koolaid

http://www.campaignmoney.com/trial_lawyer.asp

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:13 | 633036 pan-the-ist
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If the world were fair and everyone acted altruistically we wouldn't need lawyers.  I am sure that in a principaled libertopian universe lawyers are unnecessary, however, in the 'real world' TPTB have created obfuscated laws that require lawyers to navigate.  The reality is, when you make a mistake on this scale, you hurt people, and the lawyers get rich.

I would counter your paranoia with my equally paranoid statement: TPTB make us hate lawyers so we don't litigate and stand up for our rights.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 19:39 | 633983 Bringin It
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There are too many lawyers.  Most are parasitic scum.

Where I live there really are no lawyers, courts are impossibly clogged and slow by design.  You assume your own risks and if there is a problem, you just work it out on your own, party to party.  People are free-er and happier without the oppressive burden.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:05 | 632990 LostWages
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And on the other side, the banksters are trying to put a Stop Payment on the contributions they made last week to Senators who rushed this thru at the last minute.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:07 | 633001 pan-the-ist
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You've got that completely backward.  Time to step back and read what is going on.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:36 | 632790 schoolsout
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I guess he figures the populace is, at least, paying attention to this issue...

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:36 | 632792 carbonmutant
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It's not likly that our current Teleprompter Puppet had much to do with it...

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:37 | 632793 Thunder Dome
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SHOCKED Obummer didn't bail out the banksters on this!

 

Is the angry mob gowing in strength?

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:44 | 632829 Bob
Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:05 | 632984 Conrad Murray
Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:32 | 633125 Ripped Chunk
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Yes

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:36 | 632794 LoneStarHog
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I wonder just how busy the Secret Service will be after reading some of the received comments.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:30 | 633359 Xedus129
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Why is there a white ford van parked on my street?

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:38 | 632798 Rodent Freikorps
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THE AGONIST - And Their Eulogies Sang Me to Sleep (OFFICIAL)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXzIeI0mkFI

And Mike Castle sucks.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:06 | 632993 Conrad Murray
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So does that noise.  Christ.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 20:13 | 634038 Bringin It
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Wow! Agreed.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:37 | 632800 Commander Cody
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There will be other attempts to circumvent current law to aid the criminals.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:39 | 632807 unwashedmass
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good for O....screw the banks...of course, it will probably mean they bring out the hellfires to take him down, but....at last he's doing something for the people

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:38 | 632808 Dr. Richard Head
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Thank you Obama.  I have never said it before, but it is due today.  THANK YOU. 

Let the mele begin.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:39 | 632809 LoneStarHog
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Just a thought:  Obama refuses to support the Bill prior to the elections, then issues an Executive Order right after.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:45 | 632836 Rodent Freikorps
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The lame duck session will epic.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:59 | 632910 breezer1
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as i have felt all along. nothing but damage control until after the elections, that is unless a great distraction is required. we are witnessing collapse.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:14 | 633038 cmalbatros
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+1 , Indeed , just a pre election sweetner to calm the masses . Business as usual in 2011.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:41 | 632810 RockyRacoon
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So much for the Obama bashing that went on when the first article was written.

Think we'll see any apologies?  Right.

Go back and read some of the downright nasty comments.  Shameful.

And, no, I didn't vote for him.  It's all about fair chances.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 13:45 | 632839 Bob
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You don't believe he's earned the contempt? 

I worked like hell to elect him, but. 

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