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Obama Will Not Release Dead Osama Pics

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And another part of the White House story on bin Laden changes once again, which after promising repeatedly through Panetta to release pictures of a dead bin Laden, has instead decided not to reveal the death pics. We wonder how the administration for which this whole affair is rapidly shifting from a rally around the flag affair to one of losing credibility will then explain the following statement by Leon Panetta: "I don't think there was any question that ultimately a photograph would
be presented to the public. We got bin Laden and I think we have to
reveal to the rest of the world the fact that we were able to get him
and kill him

In the meantime, BBC provides the following info on what would have been seen:

Gruesome details of photographs showing Osama bin Laden's corpse have been revealed by US officials.

The pictures of the Qaeda leader reportedly show an open gun shot wound to his head, part of the skull missing and visible brain matter.

One of bin Laden's eyes is reportedly open in the images, while the other is "completely gone".

It comes as the White House and the CIA appear to be at loggerheads over whether to release the graphic pictures.

Senior figures in US President Barack Obama's administration are locked in talks about the publication of a post-mortem photos.

It is believed the President has concerns that producing the most identifiable picture of the terrorist chief could provoke a backlash.

He fears doing so may prompt a similar response to that seen after images of Saddam Hussein's dead sons were published in 2003.

And what was that response: validation of a potential lie, because as we all know the administration never lies? We can't wait for the conspiracy crew to go to town on this one.

It is about time for Donald Trump to demand if not the death cetificate, then at least the death pic, and make the farce complete.


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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:23 | 1239100 nah
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Boooooooooo ! ! !

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:31 | 1239161 camaro68ss
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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:04 | 1239367 AboutAverage
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Bin Laden is dead.

Bring home the American Troops and out of harms way.   Bring them home!   No more excuses.  No more spin.   Bring the troops home and out of harms way.   Everything else is garbage and does not mean anything.  Get these people home and with their families. 

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:30 | 1239486 MarketTruth
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Agree, now bring the troops home. And since 9/11 is now all solved, can the US GOV now get back to finding the...

...$2,300 BILLION DOLLARS...

...the Pentagon lost and admitted so on 9/10? You do know that $2,300 billion is really needed by Turbo Timmy to help pay the USA National Debt obligations.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:43 | 1240479 Haywood Jablowme
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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:28 | 1239490 I dont belong here
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I just figured out why after all this time we finally "killed" Bin Laden. TPTF need those troops for MENA. Sucks but that is the reality. Once you start understanding how these parasites think... its depressing really. Oh well, God bless America.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:49 | 1239600 kridkrid
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May have needed them for MENA... may be time to build a case vs. Pakistan.  Or maybe we just finally got him.... a bit less likely.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:25 | 1239735 Michael
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What a tangled web of lies the Obama administration weaves. Barack yanking my chain ain't going to win any points with me. I just feel like I'm being played by that nigger Hillary & company.

I just can believe how stupid our government thinks we are.

You can buy a 1080P video camcorder for under $1000.

The government has the best recording equipment money can buy.

Nothing will satisfy me on OBL's death except a 1080P video of the dead body of Osama Bin Laden.

Sony Handycam HDR-CX560V Camcorder - 1080p - 6.65 MP,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1570&bih=671&wrapid=tlif130449598659110&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=15326852350998949199&sa=X&ei=fwfBTcSSJuSQ0QHK-cC3Cg&ved=0CFwQ8wIwBA#

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:29 | 1239773 VisualCSharp
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By the time all the approvals are signed off on and the research performed, that camera probably cost taxpayers $10,000 instead of $1,000.

Oh, and don't buy Sony. They rootkit your PC and write shitty code that allows hackers to easily steal millions of persons' personal data and credit card information.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:41 | 1239811 Michael
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I can't believe how many Church of Baracktology worshipers there are. I don't go to the Church of Baracktology.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:25 | 1240349 devnickle
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I agree.

Show me the beef, or I'm calling Bullshit.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:26 | 1239758 Raynja
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I'm thinking terrorist attack in europe in retaliation for killing osama. They'll blame it on either taliban in pakistan or alqaeda in syria (more likely) using nuclear materials from iran.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:06 | 1239378 Fernley Girl
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Zero sez "no pics", pics "leaked", Zero's arse is nicely covered. Fait accompli.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:18 | 1239718 doomandbloom
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years ago they at least they took effort to provide us with moon landing pics.....

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:19 | 1241491 palmereldritch
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Given the scarcity of credible facts the BHO administration has provided as part of their Deather and Birther psyops, they have created a new category for themselves: Dearthers.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:43 | 1241611 In Fed We Trust
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What color do you like your puppet?


I like my puppet red, in a pool of blood.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:43 | 1241614 In Fed We Trust
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What color do you like your puppet?


I like my puppet red, in a pool of blood.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:45 | 1239226 camaro68ss
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They shot him in the face, flew him 750+ miles to the sea and dumped his body in the ocean all in 12 hours. how can you not question this.

the number one most wanted man for 10 years and you dump his ass in the ocean. yeah makes perfect sence

Sheeples, so blind

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:45 | 1239246 LowProfile
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"proud republicains" are just as stupid as "proud democrats"

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:55 | 1239311 NotApplicable
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I'm proud to be a state-a-tarian, where at least I know what I believe.

And, I won't forget that bin Laden died cuz' Obama stomped on his kidneys.

And, I'll gladly stand up! (or sit back down, whichever they may say)

‘Cause there ain’t no doubt, I'm a governed man, God bless the fascist state!

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:05 | 1239373 Husk-Erzulie
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Clueless Libtard or Proud Republican, two different flavors of useful idiot.  On that topic... It makes not a whit of difference if the sockpuppet is white, black, red, blue, or high fuckin' yellah, it's still a sock puppet.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:25 | 1239474 Dr. Porkchop
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He's not a proud anything. He's a troll, every reply to his useless mashings on the keyboard only make him feel legitimized.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:36 | 1239507 jaffi
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Yes, the trolls are out in force today.  The NSA and the Pentagon are apparently quite busy as of late.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:46 | 1239588 Dr. Richard Head
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HFB - High Frequency Blogging Algorithms

Goldman Sachs has co-located HFB servers in the basement of the Internets.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:15 | 1239714 Bay of Pigs
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Step up the junks. Get this worthless troll Slinger out of here.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:08 | 1239672 astartes09
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More like Republicants

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:22 | 1239754 Papasmurf
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Not really.  Republicans can spell.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:47 | 1239263 camaro68ss
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How the fuck can i be junked? these are the so called "facts" that were given to us.

Sheeple so blind!

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:53 | 1239298 Long-John-Silver
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Some people just can't handle the truth, so they junk you.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:01 | 1239335 camaro68ss
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yeap we got him so now what..... lets dumb his ass in the ocean really fast but first lets wash him before we dumb im in the water. "ok sounds good"

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:32 | 1239517 ccrabill
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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:49 | 1239604 I am a Man I am...
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that was so they couldn't make his burial location a shrine, cuz it's a rule no shrines allowed if you dump someone in the ocean and don't have a body, ask jeebus, it's a universal given across all religions, even humanists and atheists

nope, no shrines, statues, the house he was shot in will need to be shot into space as well

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:07 | 1239372 Texas Gunslinger
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Some people can't handle all the fucking carnival barking.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:14 | 1239422 Ruffcut
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No, some people can't handle texass pussyslinger barking.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:41 | 1239568 1100-TACTICAL-12
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He is not from Texas, I can tell buy the way he writes. there are a lot of Texans on this board and he ain't one of'em, and if he says he is I want to see the fucking long form BC.....

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:28 | 1239492 Dollar Damocles
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Hey "proud republican" (aka MORON).  Why don't you just sell all your metals.  After all, your government would never lie to you, and they have your best interests at heart.  The same folks who just killed big bad Osama to keep you safe at night would also never devalue the dollar.  You schizophrenic boob...  When are you going to figure out that the same folks who lie to you daily on the economic front and genuinely do not give a fuck about you are the same folks who would gladly find and kill hitler again if it could give them a 10% bounce in the polls and distract you from the bigger issue.

"I shot Bigfoot yesterday. I ate him and dumped the remains in the lake before I could prove it. Just take my word for it. Seriously." - Doug Stanhope

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:49 | 1239833 Big Corked Boots
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I'm proud to have been junker #50, and present your pathetic post for the record:

by Texas Gunslinger
on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:39


I agree that Obama should not release the pictures, and I am a proud Republican who hates Obama.

Anyone who is not totally nuts understands that Obama is really dead, and he was shot by US troops in the last week. Whether it was Sunday, Saturday, Tuesday or whatever doesn't matter to me.

Releasing the gory pictures would only appease those who like to look at Faces of Death, and those who think everything is a conspiracy. And besides, those who think Osama died years ago will simply claim the pictures don't prove he was killed in the manner reported by the WH.

I don't think we should be caving in to these two loony groups.

Osama is dead.  No need to see his brains draining down his face.  Let's move on and focus on the real problems facing this country, rather than the "carnival barking."

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 01:19 | 1242080 chindit13
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Yes, censorship and stifling of debate, which can interfer with confirmation bias, is always something in which to take great pride. So comforting to know the solution is at least as bad, if not worse, than the problem.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:34 | 1239511 Rynak
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Nah, what happens is that the by now over ten people strong troll brigade, got annoyed about them getting massjunked in recent days, and therefore now are junking their opponents - just look through the thread.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:13 | 1239394 toothpicker
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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:22 | 1239454 JR
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And watch for the compound to be bulldozed and the excuse given that it would have become a shrine.  So pictures and descriptions of the room now become a matter of trusting the government - and the documents found.  Just saying...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:11 | 1239942 SheepHerder
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Let's not forget to add in they also verified his DNA in that time.  There needs to be some serious critical thinking. We've killed several other high ranking officers within Al Qaida and the Taliban.  I'm assuming we dump them in the ocean as well, right?  Pakistan knows you've crossed their border without permission and within 12 hours you're given the okay to take his body out and dump it without some diplomatic debacle over what just happened.  Saddam was known for having several body doubles, but within 12 hours you ahve been able to take a DNA sample, fly it out of the treacherous mountian terrain to a lab in God knows where, and verified as Bin Laden.  Being the world's most wanted terrorist you don't want additional tests like dental or anything.  You just want to fly him and dump his body.  None of the top military brass want to piss on or at least see his body as a reward ofr 10 years of hard work?  I could go on....

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:15 | 1239949 doggings
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Sheeples, so blind

so very blind - take the Quiz Sheeples, "know thyself"

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:52 | 1241647 In Fed We Trust
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Off course it was OSama that they dumped in the sea.


You have to get rid of the evidence. Rule #1

Cus an otopsy would have shown the dude has been frozen for 4 years.

So who were the Arabs they killed taht day in the compound?

Who knows? The Paks say they didn't hear any gun shots. Hmm, must of used sileners.

But the photos, floated by Reuters, (AP dude) sold some pics, wants to stay silent.

They are so fucking  graphic, ya right.  The only one that looks like Bin Laden,


So, what the fuck is up? Are they trying to fuel a conspiracy /civil war because they ran out of waysd to divide us?

What the fuck with the WH dance of NO/Yes photos?

Are they taking a real time poll based on our communications (Patriot ACt) to see what the public sentiment is?


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:52 | 1241648 In Fed We Trust
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Off course it was OSama that they dumped in the sea.


You have to get rid of the evidence. Rule #1

Cus an otopsy would have shown the dude has been frozen for 4 years.

So who were the Arabs they killed taht day in the compound?

Who knows? The Paks say they didn't hear any gun shots. Hmm, must of used sileners.

But the photos, floated by Reuters, (AP dude) sold some pics, wants to stay silent.

They are so fucking  graphic, ya right.  The only one that looks like Bin Laden,


So, what the fuck is up? Are they trying to fuel a conspiracy /civil war because they ran out of waysd to divide us?

What the fuck with the WH dance of NO/Yes photos?

Are they taking a real time poll based on our communications (Patriot ACt) to see what the public sentiment is?


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:45 | 1239251 schizo321437
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Interesting freudian slip, but yes, no more grisly pictures please.


He`s dead to the empire, and that is what matters.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:04 | 1239353 DoChenRollingBearing
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Is bin Laden really dead then?  

How would you know?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:49 | 1239596 unky
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hmm, today the german local government canceled a funeral celebration planed to be held for osama bin laden in Frankfurt. However the prayers still would have the chance to go to a higher court and fight this decision

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:34 | 1240386 The Navigator
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I had my doubts until I read this from AlArabiya

and because

1- it wasn't from our Main Stream Media

2- it wasn't from our lying government officials

3- it WAS from an eye witness that knew the dead man personally

BTW, what's with the fucking junking when you ask questions and want to see proof of what's claimed?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:49 | 1239253 Huckleberry Finn
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"would only appease those who think everything is a conspiracy" More like the people that just don't believe everything they hear on the tube. Hitler came to power, because not enough people questioned him, they just believed. The people that ask questions are the ones that have saved this country so far. So you sit back and believe everything you are told. We will continue to question.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:01 | 1239346 Holodomor2012
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That isn't why Hitler came to power.  Hitler came to power because a parasitic international plutocracy had destroyed Germany's money and enslaved Germans in debt hell.  Hitler came to power in order to bring 0% inflation, reduce employment from 30% to 1% and to demand that sausages be made with 85% or more meat.

However, Hitler lost power for the reasons you listed.  Because not enough Americans, Soviets, and Brits questioned their leaders... they just 'believed'.

So what do you believe?


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:11 | 1239404 Huckleberry Finn
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you must hate jews, and everything is their fault again right? Yeah the reason you listed contributed, but you can't say people not questioning his actions did help his reign.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:24 | 1239468 Max Hunter
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No, not everything is the Jews fault.. Just a big ass fucking chunk of it is..

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:24 | 1239483 Holodomor2012
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I just like 85% meat in my sausage.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:32 | 1239782 Almost Solvent
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That's what she said

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:01 | 1239641 Rick64
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 Its interesting that the banking interests had a freindly working relationship with the Natzis all through the war. The BIS transferring the spoils of each country he invaded to Germany's accounts or to the Reichsbank. Swiss banks as well as the BOE, Chase, Barclays, and several other well known banks cooperated with the Natzis. Many of these bankers traveled freely and weren't restricted by the war. Hitler working hand in hand with the bankers, and the bankers enabling the Natzi war machine.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:09 | 1239674 Holodomor2012
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Disinfo.  The only thing worse than a high school education is an Alex Jones/David Ick education.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:51 | 1240152 Rick64
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   Thomas McKittrick, was the American BIS president from the time of the Czech scandal through the war. The Italian and German governments approved his continuing as president, once saying, "McKittrick's opinions are safely known to us." Apparently, those Axis powers liked what they knew.

In 1940, McKittrick traveled to Berlin, meeting with Kurt von Schroeder of the BIS and the Gestapo to discuss doing business between the U.S. and German if war should erupt between the two countries. (34)

McKittrick was also president when in June of 1940, a Belgian BIS director intercepted $228 million in gold sent by the Belgian government to the Bank of France, and had it shifted to Dakar in North Africa on its way to Reichsbank accounts.

Later, in 1943, he was somehow able to obtain an Italian diplomatic visa, (despite not being Italian or a diplomat, and despite the fact that the government of his country was at war with Italy) and traveled to Rome, Lisbon, then to the United States. After visiting with Leon Fraser of First National Bank of New York and leaders of the Federal Reserve, he traveled back through Berlin, exchanging intelligence with Emil Puhl at the Reichsbank.

 These things are well documented if you look for them. I guess you had a high school education. I try to stick to facts and question what I am told.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:58 | 1240189 Rick64
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  Recently unclassified reports from the US Treasury about the activities of Chase in Paris in the 1940s indicate that the local branch worked "in close collaboration with the German authorities" in freezing Jewish assets.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:52 | 1240549 Rick64
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In March 1939 the Nazis invaded Czechoslovakia. Storm troopers, holding the bankers at gunpoint, ordered them to transfer their nation's national store of gold, which they had placed in a BIS account in the central bank of England, transferred to the Reichsbank account. Jacobson afterward said that the BIS learned only later that this transfer was ordered at gunpoint, but this statement can be disregarded as pro forma. The facts were that the conquest of a small nation by a larger one is historically accompanied by a looting of assets, and Jacobson's added comment that "The Czechs never held this against the BIS" can be taken as far more significant. Losers in a war seldom expect the world to be shocked.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:33 | 1240789 Rick64
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 Washington State Congressman John M. Coffee objected and introduced a similar resolution in January 1944. He shouted, angrily, "The Nazi government has 85 million Swiss gold francs on deposit in the BIS. The majority of the board is made up of Nazi officials. Yet American money is being deposited in the Bank."

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 16:32 | 1245046 Rick64
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 I am disappointed that you didn't reply. Perhaps your high school education has let you down. Sorry no Alex Jones or David Icke references.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:33 | 1239792 VisualCSharp
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You could at least spell Nazi correctly. Sheesh. What a worthless, waste-of-time post.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:54 | 1240179 Rick64
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 Yes I made a mistake. Now let me reply to your logical rebuttal. Oh you don't have any.

 Thanks grammar NATZI.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:45 | 1239255 -Michelle-
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Anyone who is not totally nuts understands that Obama is really dead


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:57 | 1239310 hedgeless_horseman
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Understanding based not on empirical facts, but on love for Big Brother.  Why is that so wrong?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:19 | 1239433 Popo
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Exactly.  The onus of proof lies with those making the argument that Osama is dead.  They need to explain why they are accepting at face value, a story which not only seems unlikely, but involves a primary threat to US security.  You think you're being told the truth?  Why on Earth would anyone think that?

Is it not abundantly clear to any reader of ZH that deception, spin and propaganda are not only the norm with the U.S. government, but that anything else is exceedingly rare?

The tinfoil hatters are not the ones who think he is alive. They are the ones who think he is dead.  To think that *all the facts* are being presented openly regarding a top secret mission involving the killing or capture of a primary security threat to the United States is nothing short of insane.  The tinfoil hatters are the ones strapping on the feedbag proffered by the news media and refusing to exercise one iota of skepticism -- where it is clearly called for.



Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:34 | 1239526 Dollar Damocles
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A +

Only a child would accept this at face value.  I challenge anyone to show me the last time anyone in the last few administrations DIDN'T lie about ANYTHING.

The default position of anyone who is educated or serious, is to question every word from our government, and say "prove it".

Anyone who just believes this willy nilly cause gubment said so, only displays their undying faith in government, their statism.  This is the mental disease of people taught from the age of five to salute the flag and believe unquestionly all government propaganda in socialist public schools.  I think sometimes that some people actually like the taste of spoon-fed propaganda.  Reminds them of home, gives them a comforting feeling.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:35 | 1239531 DrLamer
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Anyone who is not totally nuts understands that Obama is really dead


This is a job for Secret Service. Where are you guys? Someone just claimed the US President is dead.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:46 | 1239259 Blooter
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I'm not a Republican, but I'm not into Obama, and Texas Gunslinger is 10000% correct.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:51 | 1239284 Shell Game
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On your wheel of logic, 10,000% correct overlaps with -100% correct.  Oops. ;-)

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:13 | 1239403 Blooter
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Touche. I meant I agree with him.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:03 | 1239362 Cognitive Dissonance
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Yes.....but only if TG is bound by the three laws now. :>)

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:57 | 1239309 dbTX
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The whole point of the SEAL raid was to take out Osama with minimal collateral damage and to show proof positive Osama was killed. No pic's, no proof. Sorry you lose.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:04 | 1239369 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

No body, no photo, no proof.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:12 | 1239412 3.7.77
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Dumping the body at sea was the best thing to do. What else would you do, turn it over to the family so they could have a big funeral and make him more of a martyr?


Should have captured him alive and beheaded him on video to be release, eye for an eye.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:10 | 1239688 gmrpeabody
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But..., wouldn't that be littering?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:36 | 1239541 jaffi
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But, hey.  They were able to order up the "Domino's delivery" DNA test.  

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:01 | 1239347 AboutAverage
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Bin Laden is dead.

Bring home the American Troops and out of harms way.   Bring them home!   No more excuses.  No more spin.   Bring the troops home and out of harms way.   Everything else is garbage and does not mean anything.  Get these people home and with their families. 

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:09 | 1239380 DoChenRollingBearing
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How do you know bin Laden is dead?


I share your other thoughts about bringing the troops home.  It's time.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:37 | 1239542 jaffi
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As far as I know, OBL has been dead for years.  

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:39 | 1239806 VisualCSharp
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As far as most folks know, it is unclear whether he is dead or alive. This is why proof is necessary. One's personal beliefs do not enter into the equation.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:47 | 1239826 falak pema
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his 12 year old daughter made a public statement in front of the pak press about his death which she witnessed in the house that night. So an occular witness, a minor, has given evidence to the world about her dad's death. 

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 01:49 | 1242121 chindit13
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I don't think JSOC, Obama, the CIA or anyone involved cares one way or the other what you or I think as to whether ObL is dead or not.  Those for whom his death is highly significant---family, Ayman al Zawahri, AQAP's al-Awlaki, etc.---know, and that is sufficient.  On top of that, whatever "proof" anyone offered regarding his death would most certainly be claimed by the Internet Gurus to be fabricated, photoshopped, etc.  Thus, in the end, it doesn't matter.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:10 | 1239676 astartes09
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Agreed.  Dead or not, bring them home.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 01:10 | 1242067 HeadintheGame
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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:15 | 1239406 downwiththebanks
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Considering Uncle Sam's track record of deception with regard to the alCIAda Black Op and the absence of any evidence (other than words), it takes real devotion to accept this little  fairy tale unconditionally.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:16 | 1239432 Lord Welligton
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Anyone who is not totally nuts understands that Obama is really dead, and he was shot by US troops in the last week.

So who's in the White House then?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:08 | 1239673 Hugh G Rection
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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:10 | 1239687 tmosley
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+1 would be trolled by him again.  

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:47 | 1239213 Popo
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Let's be clear:  In captivity, Osama bin Laden would be the single most important source of terrorism/counter-terrorism information in the world.  

Secondly:  If he were in captivity, it would be very important for three reasons to not let the public know:

    (a)  The value of the information would be greatly decreased if Al Qaeda was aware that it had been compromised.

    (b)  Threats to American security would rise significantly if it were known that bin Laden was captive.

    (c)  The ability to interrogate (ie: torture) Bin Laden would be diminished if international organizations knew that he was captive.


Given the extremely good reasons for non-disclosure, and given the grossly inadequate "funeral at sea" story, lack of photos and lack of any supporting evidence of any kind -- one can only assume that Bin Laden is currently in Guantanamo.  He is now "prisoner X", and he is a treasure trove of information.

That's my story and I'm sticking with it.

Osama is in an American gulag.  And it goes without saying, he is never coming out.   Ever.   His last days will be spent breathing water, babbling in drug induced stupor and stumbling in a pen utterly deprived of sleep.  I don't feel pity for the man in the least, but my bet is that he's not dead -- at least not yet.



Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:45 | 1239252 Raynja
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Good points but its possible we already captured him and this was the disposal.
High walls with barbed wire and multiple gates. No phone or internet. They claim he was unarmed and he had no security. Was this a safe house or a prison.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:53 | 1239304 Popo
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An interesting theory -- but high walls, barbed wire and no phones describes a whole lot of nice houses in Pakistan.  Landlines aren't as common there.  Most went straight to cellphones.  And high walls covered in spikes are pretty much everywhere.


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:01 | 1239343 camaro68ss
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the story is he had no internet or phone lines yet they found hella computers in his house????? ok. must be playing alot of minesweep

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:22 | 1239382 NotApplicable
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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:35 | 1239796 Almost Solvent
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Unless he was working for us all along and the heat got too much so they had to "off" an old friend.


He was working with our government since at least Carter/Regan, so this rabbit hole is deep as shit.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:08 | 1239386 NotApplicable
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There was no landline internet or phone connected to the house. It's obvious though, that one of the satellite dishes was, given the computers and the need to communicate with this fake Osama.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:18 | 1239431 3.7.77
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Multiple cell phones were found and the other occupants were considered couriers.

So the story goes.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:27 | 1239500 NotApplicable
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And those as well. I'm just trying to unwind the implications of the media report of "no phone or internet connected to the house" equaling "no phone or internet at the house".

I find it interesting that, in this wireless age, it's still necessary to point out the above. But then again, with the babble that passes for news, it's easy to miss the signifigance of the word "connected."

Meanwhile, at least fake Osama won't have to put up with Hughesnet anymore!

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:32 | 1239781 Rusty Shorts
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Go back and look at the pictures Tyler posted of the compound, the place is loaded with communications equipment if you know what to look for...hell, there's a cellular base station antenna mounted to the side of the house.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:54 | 1239615 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Obama gang is up to something, they are keeping way to much bullshit stirred up. who knows what the hell to believe. They just throw out a bunch of incomplete questionable BS & leave everyone to argue about it.. Divide & Plunder?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:43 | 1240844 The Navigator
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Right On. While we argue "where's the body?", "where's the head"?, "where's the photos"?...... I keep wondering what those lying bastards are scheming in DC these past 3 days - pay no attention to man behind the curtain.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:15 | 1241506 Common_Cents22
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The birth certificate stuff was getting too hot and would have led to further background checks/vetting that was never really done on the "rock star".  

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:38 | 1239546 DrLamer
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the story is he had no internet or phone lines yet they found hella computers in his house????? ok. must be playing alot of minesweep

I can not beleive that Mr. Osama did not read ZeroHedge. Ok, now he is pretty able to do this from heaven.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:48 | 1239843 falak pema
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read my comment above...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:26 | 1239495 MachoMan
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Bingo.  If he's dead, we've already taken all of the information possible from him...  Further, we've revealed that we have his hard drive...  which means that the information therein is not the least bit valuable or is valuable and awareness of our knowledge thereof cannot materially change its value...

Clearly, this guy was not the least bit concerned he would be killed or apprehended...  or had resided to this fate and capitulated long ago.  Maybe we had to make a deal with pakistan to get them to reveal his location, but regardless, I can't believe this was someone fighting for his life daily worried about black helicopters...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:18 | 1241519 Common_Cents22
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He was worth more dead than alive.  That tells me he had nothing more to reveal, they have been monitoring him for quite some time and his only value was a distraction and a figure head. 

I find it very odd and obvious that obama admin and left wing media is bragging about the "treasure trove" of data.  Why the hell would that be released if they found tons of good info that could be used in more covert ops?


I say Osama was rendered useless years ago as an operative and there was no information to glean.  Except what info propaganda obama is going to feed us.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 23:54 | 1241943 MachoMan
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Maybe...  it could also mean that he had harmful information, such as the fact that al qaeda's capabilities are negligible...  or that he didn't have anything to do with 9/11...  the CIA's operations for the drug fields...  or a myriad of others...

I think it's fair to assume that he had nothing more helpful to reveal...  at least to those in the know...

I'll one up you and say that osama was never militarily useful for any muslim militants, but rather was solely/predominantly useful to MIC interests... 

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:39 | 1239812 Agent P
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Agreed.  My comments from yesterday...

"Osama worth more alive than dead.  At least he could have been used as a lure to capture other terrorists."


Most definitely.  I think it's one of the following four scenarios:

  1. The story is more or less true, only they wanted to take him alive but it didn't work out as planned (most doubtful).
  2. They finally caught up to him, manufactured the death story, and he is at a black site right now getting his nails done.
  3. They've had him for sometime now, have all the intel they're going to get, finally killed him, and staged this as the cover story.
  4. Same as #3, only he's still alive and this was manufactured just to spur additional activity (by either side depending on your conspiratorial views).

One thing I'll add: regardless of which is the truth (even if I don't have it listed above), it seems likely we're about to start some serious shit with Pakistan.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:16 | 1239430 downwiththebanks
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alCIAda has been a source of information for Uncle Sam for the last 3 decades. 

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:21 | 1239452 Keri at Bankste...
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You lost me at "Let's be clear"...


...sorry, it has become an involuntary reaction since 2008 or so.



Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:24 | 1239466 Ruffcut
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You want pictures?

One picture fits all. Osama, obama, boner, biden, bush, denninger, bernanke, paulson, geitner, etc.

It is the pic of my naked, hairy ass.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:21 | 1239747 amarshall
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The most clear concise post I've read to date.

Forwarding that to my email list.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:40 | 1239222 bankonzhongguo
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As I get older the more I believe that there is no such thing as coincidence.

Consider the timing of the release of Obama's birth certificate and this "operation."

These events and plans are related and part of a much larger calculation.

Meanwhile, thousands of American warriors are forward deployed, with their families suffering from endless war.

Bring the legions home.


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:59 | 1239337 NotApplicable
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Remember Rumsfeld's "Oops, I lost $3T at the Pentagon" press conference...

on 9/10/2001.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:49 | 1239276 chet
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I don't think they have a creditibility problem.  If journalists waited to get the facts straight instead of rushing forward with every rumor leaked by an "unnamed White House source" then they wouldn't print bulls**t stories.

Leon Panetta isn't the Administration.  He's one guy who should know better than to blabber a bunch of half-formed opinions on what MIGHT happen to the press.

This is only a conspiracy if you are stupid, but then that describes most of what the Tea Party gets riled up about.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:16 | 1239421 toothpicker
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so YOU have the images....good to know....could you please please show them to me?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:20 | 1239458 The Third Man
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Leon is the head of the CIA. If he's blabbering half-formed opinions, then what the fuck is he doing heading up the organization that allegedly masterminded this mission? If he's the best we can hope for then this administration is in worse shape than even what the harshest critics are saying.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:09 | 1239678 chet
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I agree that Panetta was irresponsible.  And Jon Brennon who started the "wife as human shield" rumor (even though if you read the quote he was far from definite about it.)

The White House has an internal discipline problem with loud mouths talking about things they don't know.  (Pretty standard for a Dem administration.)  That's different from a conspiracy.

The media has a problem with now being a bunch of glorified gossip bloggers instead of journalists.

These two facts lead to poorly researched stories being written and the need for corrections.  Unfortunate, but doesn't require a Warren Commission to sort out.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:27 | 1239484 sun tzu
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Talk about stupid, that defines the hope and change crowd.

OBL was supposedly in a compound down the street from a police station and major Pakistani military base. Four choppers are sent in and a vicious firefight breaks out for nearly an hour. Not one cop or Pakistani soldier is sent to the compound to investigate.

Obama claims that OBL had to be given a proper burial in order to not offend Muslims. So they dump him out at sea. Muslim scholars speak out and say that is not a proper Muslim burial. Obama then changes the story and says that they didn't want to bury OBL and give a shrine to the terrorists. Why not bury him in an unmarked grave in the desert if they wanted a proper Muslim burial?

In 1998 OBL had kidney failure and requires weekly dialysis at the hospital. Then he survives years living in a cave before moving to a compound in a busy surburb of 140,000 people in Pakistan. Nobody notices the new 6'4 Arab and his entourage in town. Even though there is a $25 million bounty on him when he goes to the hospital for his weekly dialysis and none of the doctors, nurses or other patients are curious..

It's 11PM on Sunday night and a spontaneous crowd of "college students" gathers outside the white house with extra large brand new American flags to celebrate. I guess college students from Georgetown and GW all keep huge American flags in their dorm rooms for such occasions.

Obama states that he chose a risky special ops mission instead of dropping a bomb on the compound because they wanted to prove to the world that they got OBL. They then immediately dump the evidence in the ocean and refuse to release the photos. 

Oh well, if the stories don't add up, just hope and believe in Mein Obama for demonize anyone who dares question the comedy show. You idiots are just as stupid as the fools who believed in the Iraq WMD show.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:33 | 1239521 That Peak Oil Guy
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Infowars has some pretty fringe stuff on it, but this one on the Osama situation is worth a look:


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:06 | 1239662 chet
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It is possible to doubt literally anything, so I won't waste my time trying to argue with you.

Too much time is now wasted in this country trying to refute stupid people.  No one will convince you of anything.  Not with photos, not with a birth certificate. 

"Stupid and proud of it!"

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 15:39 | 1239780 sun tzu
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I'm sure you're proud of it.

The North Vietnamese attacked us in the gulf of Tonkin

WMD's in Iraq

There is no housing bubble

We need $750 billion or there will be tanks in the street

Green shoots, recovery summer

There is no inflation

It's just a no fly zone for humanitarian purposes and Gaddafi is handing out viagra to his troops


Keep the faith, bro

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:58 | 1239313 OldPhart
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Really doesn't what the government does.  Sooner or later the photos will be released by Al Jazeera, Daily Globe or one of any US media as the scoop of the century.

Hell, even one of the SEAL Team may anonimously release a trophy pic.  And you can be assured there would be at least one trophy pic.

Th efforts by the White House to suppress this information is laughable.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:12 | 1239409 DoChenRollingBearing
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I hope you are right about someone or a SEAL Team member quietly releasing a trophy photo.

How are we supposed to have any confidence in this government?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:59 | 1239321 legal eagle
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I think they must have messed up the photoshop, lost the digital files....out of respect for terrorists (that we are willing to kill.....which somehow demonstrates respect?).....

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:31 | 1239504 sun tzu
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They need more time to work on the photoshop. It will be released later after much controversy, just like the birth certificate. Perhaps right before the 2012 elections.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:57 | 1239326 legal eagle
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I think they must have messed up the photoshop, lost the digital files....out of respect for terrorists (that we are willing to kill.....which somehow demonstrates respect?).....

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:54 | 1239616 Re-Discovery
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They should mount that fucker's head at the entry way of the new Twin Towers (I know, we wimped out on that too.) 

Any muslims who would be offended because of the desecration of the body of a murderer better re-read the Koran, and sure as hell better keep their heads down.

But Obammy is too weak even to show a picture.  Well isn't that sensitive of him.



Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:27 | 1239107 -Michelle-
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This kill is nothing without pictures.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:13 | 1239414 DoChenRollingBearing
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Completely agree.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:24 | 1239108 Thorlyx
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Pictures, bitchez...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:07 | 1239370 Zero Govt
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it's been a complete fuking clown show for 10 years, at least they're consistent to the end

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:27 | 1239112 scythian empire
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goldman just got long the pic coming out.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:28 | 1239116 tellsometruth
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USA USA USA...sickening really... I understand why they chant but weren't people in the USA appaled by the cheering in the streets when 9/11 happened fast forward 10 years later... i know it is not the same thing but...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:26 | 1239117 tellsometruth
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USA USA USA...sickening really... I understand why they chant but weren't people in the USA appaled by the cheering in the streets when 9/11 happened fast forward 10 years later... i know it is not the same thing but...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:33 | 1239148 dbach
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I felt the same way. You don't fight barbarism with more animal like behavior. We got in there, killed him, dumped him in the sea. Clean and simple. While I don't care for Obama, I think they chose the best path for off-ing Osama.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:02 | 1239350 NotApplicable
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Best path? You mean the nearly ten years on ice while GWoT was getting geared up?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:26 | 1239496 Boilermaker
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"Animal like behavior"...yea, that's what it was.  Waiving a flag and cheering is the same as shooting a kalashnikov in the air and burning effigies.

Give me a break.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:31 | 1239513 sun tzu
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Supposedly those were our best and brightest college students from Georgetown and Geroge Washington University.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:37 | 1239532 Things that go bump
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I know this is naive, but I always thought it was illegal for our government to engage in assassination.  

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:03 | 1240226 Ruffcut
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Nothing is illegal as you get away with it. Cops assassination are daily.

Geez, I like that.

Ass Ass I nation.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:26 | 1239119 ilovefreedom
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pics or it didn't happen

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:37 | 1239194 dussasr
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I don't understand people who believe that he's not dead.  Why would the US publicly claim he was killed in a raid if he was still alive? 

If he were still alive it would be easy for Bin Ladn to make a new tape talking about current events (like reports of his death) to prove he's still alive.  It would in fact be so easy to refute that the US would never take the chance of reporting his confirmed killing if he wasn't in fact dead.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:40 | 1239206 -Michelle-
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Unless he's alive and in custody.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:44 | 1239243 SilverIsKing
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Or dead for the past 5 years

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:05 | 1239918 Almost Solvent
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Or some "actor" who has since "retired"

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 13:43 | 1239239 faustian bargain
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Or, he died some time ago, but they wanted to orchestrate a more dramatic show to rally support for the administration. The possibilities are many, but speculation could be reduced by simply publishing the photo and video(s).

It's too bad the administration/government has this seemingly desperate need to control all information. Wonder why that is.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 14:06 | 1239359 nonclaim
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Obama's been Lyin' ?

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