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Obama's Popularity Jump Identical To That Of Bush Following Saddam Hussein Capture

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According to a just released Washington Post-Pew poll, Obama's rating from Monday night, following the digestion of the bin Laden news, hit 56% as respondents say they approve of the way Obama is handling his job as president, an
increase of nine percentage points over April polls by Post-ABC News and
Pew. On the other hand: "the new poll, conducted Monday evening by The Washington Post and the
Pew Research Center, also finds virtually no movement in Obama’s numbers
when it comes to handling the economy." That said, "that is the highest approval rating for the president in either poll since 2009." Alas, if history is any precedent, the small boost will rapidly wane unless the president does something about the number one concern on voters' minds: (no, not the Russell 2000) - gas. "Compared with the mid-April Post-ABC poll, Obama’s approval rating among independents is now 10 points higher, at 52 percent. Bush got an identical 10-point boost among independents in December 2003. For Bush, that lift proved short-lived, with the entire increase gone within six weeks." And then there is always the question of polling objectivity. Steve Brusk at CNN just tweeted: "New CNN/ORC poll: bin Laden raid brings only small bounce to President Obama's approval rating: now 52%, up 1% from before raid." It is to be fully expected that in a centrally planned economy, no number can be trusted, regardless of its source. Certainly not something as manipulated as the president's ratings.

More from WaPo:

There’s also been a clear increase in public satisfaction with the way things are going in the United States, although by a margin of nearly 2-1, Americans are still dissatisfied with the direction of the country.

The president gets big bounces on dealing with Afghanistan, with his approval rating soaring to 60 percent, and on handling the threat of terrorism, where he recorded a career high of 69 percent.

More than three-quarters of all Americans say the president deserves credit for the killing of the bin Laden in Pakistan on Sunday. Among Republicans, 61 percent say Obama deserves at least some credit for the move. But just 17 percent of them say he deserves a “great deal” of credit for bringing bin Laden to justice after a nearly 10-year pursuit by U.S. intelligence and military forces.

Republicans are more apt to give former president George W. Bush acclaim for killing bin Laden, with 81 percent saying he deserves at least some of the credit for what happened Sunday. Only 35 percent of Democrats share that view, however, with a slender 4 percent giving the former president a lot of credit.

There is more bipartisan agreement that the U.S. military and intelligence deserve a great deal of credit for the killing.

For the president, the nine-point increase in his overall approval rating is on par with the six-point increase in Bush’s numbers in the weeks following the capture of Saddam Hussein in Iraq in December 2003. Then, as now, political independents moved the most.

One thing is certain: if average gas passes its all time 2008 highs within the next few weeks, and it likely will absent crude plunging, Obama may soon be forced to exhume Al Capone and/or John Wilkes Booth next for another futile short-term popularity boost.

 

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Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:29 | 1234513 DK Delta
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Shocker! The narrative is already out. Obama is a great wartime leader and commander in chief. End of story.

 

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:34 | 1234542 zaknick
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How pathetic. Anybody who thinks through 911 knows those planes were unable to bring down those buildings like that.

AmeriKKKan bullshit!

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Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:55 | 1234961 DavidC
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Or WTC 7, down in its own footprint, which wasn't hit by either of them.

DavidC

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 17:10 | 1235776 ParaZite
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American's... thinking? You must have us confused with some other group of people. 

Hey look, it's Kristie Alley on Dancing with the stars... 

We killed Osama!

Bahhhhhhhaaaaaaaahhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa said the sheep.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:50 | 1234600 Texas Gunslinger
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Unfortunately, if the unemployment numbers get better (which I hope), and a little life is blown into the economy (which I hope), Obama will be applauded as the President who saved America from the abyss, and will be virtually guaranteed a second term. The killing of Osama is the icing on the cake.  Plus, the lunacy of Trump just makes the Republicans look even more lost.  If the Republican party isn't extremely careful, they're about to tossed into extinction. 

If I weren't a Republican, I'd be a Libertarian.  Either way, I feel lost in my own country - probably like many of you. 

 

 

 

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:50 | 1234616 traderjoe
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Maybe you can SAVE us!?

Or leave, one of the two...

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:53 | 1234636 redpill
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Amen, praise baby Jesus!

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 14:01 | 1234968 Texas Gunslinger
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Aren't we all looking to be "saved" from the evil around us?  Aren't we all looking for a refuge from the tyranny and corruption and thievery and evil that has totally engulfed our culture?

Unless I'm mistaken, everyone here seems to be looking for someone/thing to miraculously "save" us from the misery that surrounds us, whether that is Ron Paul, precious metals, belief in various political and social ideologies, blogs or whatever. With exception for a few Tea Party gatherings on some sunny Saturday afternoon, everyone is just sitting here....waiting for a miracle. Let me clue you in... that miracle ain't gonna happen.

Look; there is no difference between me and everyone else here, unless all of you begin a revolution and strip the plutocrats of their power, and that will never happen. Ever. Otherwise, you're all looking for a refuge like me without having to get your hands bloody.

I have chosen to find refuge through the Bible, the metaphor of Christ, and the unjustified oppression that he suffered. The Bible gives me perspective and peace; for the most part, it leads me down a path of happiness, forgiveness, love, respect and community, despite the presence of evil and injustice everywhere I look. That, in turn, enables me to live a relatively happy and meaningful life. Thinking of myself as a random speck of carbon in the whirlwind of an unfair and pointless universe doesn't do much for me. 

In contrast, most of you seem to harbor the dead weight of bitterness, anger, hatred and cynicism on your shoulders....and for what?  Nothing. You're all miserable.  All I need to do is spend an evening reading through the comments section here, and it reinforces my belief that my strategy is better.  

Be happy or be miserable - your choice.  If the Bible isn't your path to happiness, find something that is.  Otherwise, life sucks. 

 

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 15:10 | 1235279 Shell Game
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One of the many two-edged swords in our humanity is anger.  It can be a gift, and it can be a curse.  I carry my share of peace through my own spirituality and I harbor my share of rage, at the same time.  One of the blessings of anger is that it is a catalyst for change.  Enough of us get angry enough and 'real change' is coming, make no mistake about that..

It's all too easy to judge others who wear their anger on their sleeves.  Some here have lost jobs, careers, homes, etc.  I'd guess many families have been shattered by financial and political strife as well.  The loss of our freedoms and liberties gets worse every week that passes, no animal does well in a small cage..

These are tough times.  We'll get through by tolerating differences and joining together -  believers and non-believers.  Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians and Independents.  Southerners and Northerners, etc..

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 15:13 | 1235345 LowProfile
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unless all of you begin a revolution and strip the plutocrats of their power, and that will never happen.

Happened once here already.  You think it can't happen?  Well, so did king George.

Be happy or be miserable - your choice.

Tru dat.

 

 

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 10:00 | 1237792 Aulieude
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One of my forebears was a signatory to the death warrant of Charles the First..Regicides Rule in my family! (Sorry Mr Middleton..don't mean you!) 

Aint no-one too big to cut down if enough people finally get fed up...it doesn't even take violence or anger (although that always seems a quicker way to people in a hurry)

Just enough people saying.."You know what? I really don't want to give you one more dime, or another piece of food out of my baby's mouth, or one more piece of land or any more oxygen, or any more of my hard won civil rights" to the teensy tiny group of people who really run(own) this world.

But first we have to turn off the TV.  And get hungry.  Really hungry.  Belly aching hungry.  Not, gee I could really go another Big Mac and fries hungry, but 3 meals away from starvation hungry.  Think that will never happen?  Just watch.

Only then will we wake up from this horrible soap opera induced coma and save our children's future.

 

panem et circenses

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 02:24 | 1237169 laughing_swordfish
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Unjunk.

The only thing "wrong" with the OBL operation was the quick disposal of the body ... if BHO was really out after some poll numbers, they'd have brought it back, smeared it with lard (for preservation of course) and ceremoniously impaled it on a stake at ground zero..

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:38 | 1234868 Don Birnam
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The groundwork for the re-election campaign is already being set; the loyal media foot soldiers are in motion.

Last evening, on MSNBC, loyal apparatchik Andrea Mitchell-Greenspan referred to, and I quote, "the President's gutsy decision."

"Gutsy." Of course he is. What else would we expect from The One. Styrofoam pillars ?

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/103jpg-300x29...

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:30 | 1234525 tekhneek
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how come i've never been able to participate in one of these fucking polls?

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:37 | 1234549 weinerdog43
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No joke.  But if he was to announce that '...now that OBL has been rendered permanently ineffective, I am advising that starting today, all American ground forces will be leaving Afghanistan effective immediately, to be finished no later than 1-1-12', I would jump on board.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:30 | 1234816 apartofthings
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That would be nice, but then they need those forces there in order to invade Pakistan and break it up into pieces.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:44 | 1234590 Cassandra Syndrome
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Maybe because when you answer your phone, you sound intelligent and they hang up. Once they hear "Whatttssssuppppppppp, USA, USA" they poll you.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:44 | 1234598 JR
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You can pick up dumb people when you call on the phone (anyway, who answers the phone anymore or agrees to be "polled"?).  AND, probably, they’re loaded polls. Obama’s at the bottom regardless of the “poll” they use.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:36 | 1234540 apberusdisvet
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They only poll SNAP recipients.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:38 | 1234553 The Axe
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Wheres ROBOtard   those REITS turned faster then a hooker seeing a black and white...actually blue in NY  ha

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:38 | 1234562 Scottj88
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America Keeps on Partying, but only in front of the White House...

Everywhere else they are cracking down....

Woooo, lets all try to get laid in front of the whitehouse after Osama has been captured.  Woooo, Rome is falling but I am asleep.

http://thehardrightedge.com/partyover/

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:05 | 1234572 TruthInSunshine
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Ron Paul:   So Ben, I really hate the idea you're intervening in the equity and bond markets, the economy, and everything properly the domain of free markets so aggressively, essentially becoming the buyer, and I certainly hate your fiat printing mania.

Bernank:   Well, Congressman, you do know that if we didn't intervene, equities would crash, and this would take down pensions, 401(k)s, IRAs and many other forms of retirement classes. It would also cause major contraction of tax revenues. And since we have little in the way of organic domestic investment, and our manufacturing base has been wiped out stateside, it could cause a complete depression.

Ron Paul:  So Ben, are you saying we have to do what the Soviet Union did in its waning days?

Bernank:   Precisely, Congressman. Precisely.

Ron Paul:  For how much longer can you keep the Ponzi going?

Bernank:   Mr. Congressman, there are are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

Ron Paul:  You've lost your mind, you bearded sycophant. Do we have any gold left or not?

Bernank:   That is an unknown unknown.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:30 | 1234818 Zedge Hero
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Please make that into a cartoon or something, hilarious.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 14:02 | 1234991 JR
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+100

Deregulation in the 1980s and 1990s with amendment 401(k) of the U.S. tax code reordered America’s financial landscape.

Phillip Augar in his book “The Greed Merchants,” explains it: “The combination of a strong economy, deregulation and a focus on shareholder value created a mountain of corporate finance work for the investment banks as companies merged, demerged and refinanced themselves.  Now capital was needed to meet the requirement for corporate finance, and a new source unexpectedly appeared in 1980 with amendment 401(k) of the U.S. tax code.

“This apparently low-key tax break was originally intended to encourage employers and employees to put year-end profit shares into pension plans, but it had unforeseen consequences. Benefits experts realized that a regular salary could also be sheltered from tax in the way, and as word spread employees rushed to take advantage, pumping money into the fast-rising stock market.  Employers encouraged this, seeing an opportunity to reduce their burdensome pension obligations. The amount of money invested in 401(k) plans quadrupled to nearly $400 billion in the 1980s, and then quintupled in the 1990s to almost $2 trillion, helping to drive up share prices through the sheer weight of money, giving millions of people an interest in the stock market and providing business with a new pool of capital to tax.

“By the middle of the 1980s Wall Street was at the center of the economic action, serving on one hand the needs of investors with capital to invest, and on the other companies hell-bent on a dash for shareholder value.  As the bull market built in the early 1980s, people on Wall Street began to make serious money.  Big deals generated big bonuses.  Wall Street became ‘Disneyland for adults’ in the words of one corporate finance executive eagerly anticipating a $9 million bonus in 1986. The huge rewards led to conspicuous consumption, flash spending and growing media interest on Wall Street.” 

And victimization began big time…the insider trading, market manipulation, greed and corruption, patronage, favoritism, mail, wire and securities fraud, the junk-bond crisis, the savings and loan crash, rigging of the U.S. government’s Treasury bond market, pension fund fraud, derivative time bombs, front running, kickbacks, the Nasdaq crash 2000,  the 2008 market crash and credit crisis, the housing bubble blowout, the Great Recession…

And all courtesy of an investment banking cartel at the Fed.  Funny thing that, being cartels are illegal.

 

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:38 | 1234573 NotAllowed
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They only Poll Idiots who think Australia is next to Iran on a map.  Obama has done nothing to actually help the American people.  Time will prove this is just a futile attempt to get him re-elected.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:02 | 1234676 Sam Christie
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The poll numbers aren't even close to the truth. Who are these 52%?

As someone else mentioned, I never get polled.

The U6 unemployment under Obama has not had a single month which has been better than Bush's worst month. That's striking when you think about it.

I really don't see the economy isn't going to improve significantly, although the government will continue to publish BS numbers to try to make itself look effective.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 14:07 | 1235015 DrunkenMonkey
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So they poll people that are very unlikely to vote then ? Good grief.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:38 | 1234578 mcl2177
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It makes sense that he has the same popularity as Bush because he is the same guy even though he'll continue to trash him.  Bush and Obama are the 2 worst leaders in the history of the world.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:43 | 1234584 A Lunatic
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It's a good thing Obama caught the bounce, otherwise he was going to double tap Gary Busey. Now, on with the charade people.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:47 | 1234599 mynhair
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Amazing what only surveying DC can accomplish.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:47 | 1234609 Bartanist
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Yeah, I'm more likely to vote for a hypocritical, lying murderer than simply a hypocritical liar.

 

.... just another day in the MSM.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:48 | 1234620 gordengeko
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Psyops, don't buy the bullshit buy the fuckin dip in silver.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:53 | 1234629 chunga
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With everything bad going on these days we should take pause and appreciate what we have.

Mass Arrests, Tear Gas, Sound Weapons used Against WIU Students -- Annual year-end block party at Western Illinois University ends with riot police.

Students attending the Wheeler Block Party were met by a Multi-Jurisdictional Task Force who used tear gas, LRAD sound weapons and crowd suppression tactics to force students into their homes.

Gary Franchi is joined by eyewitness and victim of the raid, Julio Rausseo to review video footage and recount the abuses against the students. Establishment media and law enforcement have begun to spin the story ignoring the rights abuses.

BREAKING ALERT: Mass Arrests, Tear Gas, Sound Weapons used Against WIU Students

Off topic? You decide. After watching this fun video I feel compelled to buy another truck load of canned food.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:30 | 1234819 Zero Debt
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Certainly looks violent but you forget to mention what the students did. In your link there is no video of the prior events, including the crowds burning a bicycle, burning trash and shouting slogans and littering all over the place.

http://1057thexrocks.com/riot-police-break-up-western-illinois-universit...

Not saying that the violence was justified or "constitutional" but please present both sides first.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:48 | 1234925 chunga
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Very disturbing.

"Punished, we were, the lot of us. Disproportionate to our crime! Here it is! The cursed treasure of Cortés himself. Every last piece that went astray, we have returned. Save for this."

Capt. Barbossa

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 10:09 | 1237838 Aulieude
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OMG!!!  Students burnt a bicycle!!!

They also burned "Trash"

They shouted.

They, hands over ears ladies, "littered"

Dear God..what is the world coming to???  Hell in a hand basket Martha...hell in a hand basket. (shakes head sadly)

I'm thinking of handing back my Congressional Medal and my Purple Heart in protest at these young punks spitting on the flag and my sacrifice on the battlefields of Blah Blah Bloody Blah!!!

They should be bloody shot.  And why the hell wasn't I invited to their bloody party????

(also why are they littering AND disposing of trash at the same time..no good hypocrites!)

Call in the National Guard and beat the beejezus out of these bicycle burning, foul-mouthed, little littering trash burners!

There..that's the other side for you, you stupid moronic little troll-wanker!

panem et circenses

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:56 | 1234645 gwar5
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Any Obama bounce from this isn't going to matter. It will be small and short lived. News cycle narratives have speeded up and the internet is now here to call bullshit on all the Obamaganda in real time as it rolls out.

Traditional media types have now fallen below bankers and lawyers as the most hated profession, and that takes some real doing.

OBama has told so many lies, and the MSM has covered them up, that BHO still has a credibility problem Birthergate two years after being inaugurated. Obama and his new-age funk media both act like they're pulling it off but they're really just losing credibility together.

Obama is going to have to smash the internet and nationalize it if he is going to survive. WWPD -- What Would Putin Do?

 

 

 

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:54 | 1234646 Cow
Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:03 | 1234672 alien-IQ
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ah yes...Mission Accomplished?

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:06 | 1234697 Cruel Aid
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1% point for having the balls, that Clinton didn't have, to say go.

Now on to business.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:09 | 1234700 JR
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Like Oklahoma City, like Waco, like the World Trade Center debris and like Osama bin Laden, the evidence is gone. And the only source for the evidence is the often lying U.S. government. With all the technological expertise available to them during the computer age, they can’t even produce a valid birth certificate.

The main point here is not whether Osama is dead or alive, killed six months ago or whenever, the point is, can we bring this government down with its duplicity or not. The most important thing is not Osama, it’s Obama and his neocon, neolib backers - getting these people out.  They are destroying our country.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:10 | 1234714 Mec-sick-o
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This time it will be gone in 6 days, when you fill the gas tank.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:15 | 1234739 Dr. Gonzo
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Hoople Heads love it when you shoot Boogie Men in the face and dump them in the ocean.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:17 | 1234741 Henry Chinaski
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Since when did ZH get all political and stuff?  Bush vs Obama?  Popularity?  puleeeze

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:16 | 1234750 alien-IQ
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This whole Bin Laden fiasco is shaping up as a pretext for full on War with Pakistan.

First warning sign:

US shuts embassy, consulates in Pakistan

The United States has provisionally closed all of its diplomatic missions to Pakistan over likely terrorist attacks following the elimination of Al-Qaeda’s chieftain Osama bin Laden on Monday.

But the US Embassy in Islamabad and Consulates-General in Peshawar, Lahore and Karachi are closed to Pakistanis only. US nationals are free to enter and settle their problems.

Security has also been tightened at the NATO and European Commission Headquarters in Brussels due to the wiping out of the person who became known as “terrorist No. 1”.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/05/03/49777350.html

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 14:01 | 1234980 DrunkenMonkey
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With perhaps, a certain ex-cricketer, now politician waiting to be installed to do the west's bidding ?

Well they do have nukes ..

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:25 | 1234780 Hedgetard55
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Lamestream media creaming it's jeans over something they would have called a war crime had a Republican done it.

Talked to my brother last night, a construction worker in NYC for many years. He was incensed that Obama made sure Osama got his "Islamic burial", when Osama made sure 3,000+ Americans would never get theirs.

 

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 15:23 | 1235416 weinerdog43
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Have a junk.  The stupid media was on the kneepads for 8 long years of Commander Bunnypants regime.  This isn't a left/right issue.  Wake up.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:34 | 1234846 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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osama..obama..American Imperialism continues...

http://seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil.blogspot.com/2011/05/osamaobamaame...

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:48 | 1234900 Urban Redneck
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I think oil was under $40 when Saddam was bagged

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 13:59 | 1234972 DrunkenMonkey
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Remind me again why they didn't shoot him in the leg and bring him to trial ?

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 14:31 | 1235161 ManOfBliss
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Insightful question.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 10:12 | 1237867 Aulieude
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It's a good question..it worked on the wife.

 

Oh yeah thats right..they want the conspiracy theories to fire up...

Look how much mileage the Birth Certificate meme had..this will keep evberyone busy for the next 3 years..

Have fun with that y'all!

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 14:45 | 1235229 pcrs
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I think it is too early for electoral success. Maybe if he combines it with giving back a little bit of freedom to the tax slaves in the time to follow.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 14:45 | 1235240 colonial
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The "bump" as we call it down here will not last. 

Normally official Washington is guilty of Adult ADD, but now its really rampant.  The budget crisis will soon displace this euphoria which is why OB has scheduled a trip to Ground Zero in New York. 

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 15:29 | 1235432 Bansters-in-my-...
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What can I say...but ,Brain dead Americans. Just the the brain dead Canadians give Steven Hitler,oopps I mean Harper,a MAJORITY..???

Goverment,even though the election was brought on by Harper being found in contempt of parliament...!!!!.

Are my brethern Canadians....FUCKING RETARDED....????????

Or what.........?????

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 17:50 | 1235904 Quantum Nucleonics
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Recall that Bush the Elder had a 90% approval rating after Desert Storm.  That didn't save him from getting run out of office by a fairly mild recession (by comparison to current circumstances) that had technically ended even before the election, by a pot smoking (I know, but back then it mattered politically), draft dodging, womanizing nobody governor with the help of a wacky chart wielding billionaire.

 

Obama can order two between the eyes for as many terrorists as he likes, but whether he wins re-election will depend on what the unemployment rate, GDP, and inflation are in the fall of 2012, and to a lesser extent the debt outlook, Obamacare, and the deficit.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 19:01 | 1236196 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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My daughter (14) came home from school yesterday and was talking very sceptically about the whole OBL shooting/burial gig. Apparently teachers and other pupils think the whole thing is a sham. The artifice of the USA political establishment is beginning to be revealed when 14 year olds begin questioning the news! I was VERY proud of her; all my tirades re WTC7, JFK, birth certificates etc etc having been previously met with a rolling pair of eyes. But now her peers are talking about these things, a dawning truth her way cometh.

Tue, 05/03/2011 - 19:32 | 1236285 DosZap
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I love it when our fearless, and VERY protected leaders get ANY credit for humping the ruck, and risking their ass 24/7/365, and getting credit for a 100% Bstd's death.

Makes me PUKE.Any leader that doesn't come forward and immediately rebuke those that attribute the victory/success to them, are shit on a stick .

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 09:33 | 1237699 Aulieude
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So..this is my first "serious" post.  Up until now I have lurked for 18 months, then braved the "math captcha" (why oh why can't we have the grammar version..oh yeah; econo site..D'oh!) to join and have poked toe into water about 4 times..mostly with humour..and some small, mostly unnoticed insults on morons... But now I just have to dive right into the ring..ding ding.

So here is my theory (which is mine..ahem...) 

The modus operandi behind panem et circenses is that the spectacle must go on... and on..ad infinitum..or at least until the fat lady sings. 

Therefore it is not enough that Osama be killed..he must be killed in such a way as to polarize us all and provide maximum entertainment and distraction. 

We must spend endless hours debating the whole spectacular show that has been provided to us via Circus Maximus...

Did Osama orchestrate/order 9/11?

Does Osama ever even exist?

Was he killed 10 years ago?

Was he killed 10 minutes ago?

Was he a cowardly terrosist firing his AK47 from behind the human shield of his own wife?

Was he the poor helpless unarmed freedom fighter disgustingly gunned down in front of his elderly wife by vicious imperialists?

Is he really dead?

Is it all panem et circenses?  But of course.

I have read a lot of commentary, official and blog/web based, all questioning why the US has perhaps accidentally or recklessly released the "shocking truth" that he was unarmed.

Won't this provoke more attacks?

Why did this have to even be mentioned?

It is so blatant and ridiculous that anyone even needs to ask these questions.

Panem et circenses ..keep the masses at odds with each other, give them spectacle..give them distraction, give them heroes and villains.

Are you rooting for the lions or the christians? For the brave Paegniarii versus the nasty Myrmillonis...

But whatever happens don't let the people see behind the stage, the puppet strings, the lies and the bullshit.

So go ahead, keep debating this debacle.  Pretend it matters.  Spin your conspiracy theories as though they will provide the truth and somehow set everybody free. 

The truth is ..yes..there is a conspiracy..and it has been carefully and methodically scripted, filmed, broadcast, spun, and rammed down your unprotesting throats as if it has substance and meaning. And then denied, so you all spend endless hours of your time and energy debating a nothing... 

As it was, as it always will be, while we sate our monkey minds on the ephemera of panem et circenses.

 

I am Aulieude.

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