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An Odd Directive From The Chinese Ministry Of Truth: "Delete All Rumors Of Japan Elites Emigrating To Hainan Island"

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While we were scouring the latest directives disclosed by the Chinese Ministry of Truth, conveniently leaked on a weekly basis by the China Digital Times, we encountered this oddity:

State Council Information Office: Plans for Japanese to Immigrate to Hainan Island, China

April 2, 2011

From the Ninth Bureau of the State Council Information Office: All websites are asked to monitor interactive spaces and immediately delete rumors similar to the following: “Breaking news: Japanese elites discussing plan to emigrate to Hainan Island, China.”

Questions arise: why is China so focused on removing any trace of this rumor? Is it because it is false (probably not the smartest thing, as anyone disseminating it would merely discredit themselves)? Or, perhaps, because it is true?

Pushing the scales to the opinion that it could well be the latter is Bloomberg's report that following massive economic leaks well in advance of Chinese data release (most recently presented on Zero Hedge), "those responsible will
be punished

To wit:

China’s statistics bureau said it “condemns” leaks of economic data and those responsible will be punished, after the office released economic indicators that matched rumors circulating in the market and online yesterday.

“We believe any illegal behavior will be punished by law,” Sheng Laiyun, a spokesman for the department, told a briefing in Beijing today. “Those spreading state secrets on the Internet or other public information networks should be held accountable.”

China’s first-quarter growth figure and other monthly economic data including the inflation rate were leaked yesterday ahead of the official release. Phoenix Satellite Television Holdings Ltd. reported 10 economic indicators on its website yesterday morning, citing an unidentified source. Figures released later yesterday by China’s central bank and today by the National Bureau of Statistics matched 9 of the numbers. Hong Kong-based Phoenix Television, declined to comment.

“Key data are widely circulated in the Chinese bureaucracy prior to their release,” said Brian Jackson, an emerging markets strategist at Royal Bank of Canada in Hong Kong. “The recent accuracy of market rumors must raise concerns about the integrity of the process.”

Of course, we can only wish China the best of luck in this endeavor:

“It’s normal in China, there are always channels for this sort of information,” Jiang said in a phone interview today, “The short side and the futures market in Hong Kong are always a step ahead. This is a result of China’s power structure.”

It was the fifth time in six months that an accurate consumer price index number was circulated in the market and reported in the media before release. It’s become one of the most sought-after numbers because of China’s battle to curb inflation, which jumped to a 32-month high in March.

Early disclosure happens because too many government offices see data before they’re made public, He Keng, a former deputy head of the department and now a member of its consulting committee, said in an interview last month.

Which, naturally, explains the need to have a Ministry of Truth to impose harsh directives and censor any and all disclosure that are unpalatable to the government.

Incidentally, the other most recent directives are all somewhat amusing. They are presented below:

State Council Information Office: Reform of Monopolistic Industries

April 8, 2011

From the State Council Information Office: All websites are requested
to repost on both their front pages and headline news sections the
article, “Reform and Attack of Monopolistic Industries in the Twelfth
Five-Year Plan.”

State Council Information Office: SCIO Unveils iPad Platform

April 8, 2011-04-11

From the State Council Information Office: All websites are requested to post in a prominent position the article: “China State Council News and Information Office Formally Unveils iPad App to Better Introduce the World to China.”

State Council Information Office: The “Rights Maintenance” Peasant Zhou Decai

April 8, 2011

From the State Council Information Office: All websites are requested
to delete the posting “Proposal Offered to ‘Rights Protection’ (wei quan) Tobacco Workers Around the Country by China ‘Rights Protection’ Peasant Zhou Decai,” as well as all related information.

State Council Information Office: The School Motto “Esteem Morality”

April 7, 2011

From the State Council Information Office: All websites are requested
to prominently post the article “The School Motto ‘Honor Morality’ Has
Begun to Circulate Among Teachers and Students at Hebei Agricultural
University (Hebei Nongda).”

State Council Information Office: The Song Meat Pancake

April 2, 2011

From the State Council Information Office: All websites, particularly
those with video and audio channels, are to look for and delete the
song Meat Pancake (Rou bing) by Gamahe Danzeng.


And for those curious, here is an interesting tangent on just what Hainan Island is from Xinhua:

HAIKOU, April 10 (Xinhua) -- Hainan, an island
province in southern China, is planning to develop six uninhabited
islands this year, according to local official sources.

"The islands are to be developed as tourist sites," said Zhao
Zhongshe, head of the Department of Ocean and Fisheries of Hainan
Province, stressing that no real estate projects will be developed on
the islands.

An island census carried out in the 1980s showed that China had more
than 6,500 uninhabited islands, or 93.8 percent of the total number of
islands. The results of an ongoing island census will be released this

From 2003 to 2005, a frenzy of island development swept China's
coastal areas, but was later called off by the central government over
conservation concerns.

On March 1 last year China promulgated the "Law on Island
Protection", which allows for the development of uninhabited islands
with the approval of provincial governments or the State Council.

Under the law, new development projects on uninhabited islands will be subject to strict environmental impact assessments.

However, such development has stirred controversy among those concerned about the difficulty of protecting the islands.

According to Duan Deyu, vice director of the Ocean and Fisheries
Bureau of the tourist city of Sanya in Hainan Province, divers destroyed
and stole the coral, and tourists spoiled the vegetation of scenic

"We had inspections, but it was hard to control since there are so many tourists," Duan said.

"The uninhabited islands are scattered around and protecting them could be even harder," he added.

An unnamed official in charge of the development of the Wuzhizhou
Island, one of six islands set for development, warned of economic risks
for investors.

"Enough money and a thorough plan are necessary to build service facilities," he said.


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Fri, 04/15/2011 - 13:47 | 1173230 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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They getting ready to fire up HAARP again on Japan's ass? I think Japan could only take one more blow before it's lying on the canvas looking up.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 13:51 | 1173246 SheepDog-One
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Or lying in the new deep trench the earthquake opened up just off the east shore.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:08 | 1173338 dark pools of soros
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any new super monsters crawl outta there?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:47 | 1173728 redpill
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Can anyone explain why they don't build nuclear power plants in lead-lined pits underground so they can be easily flooded or entombed in the event of a meltdown, with a PICA-X heat shield below the reactor ensuring the melted core doesn't escape?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:00 | 1173830 Infinite QE
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Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:00 | 1173831 Matte_Black
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Just a guess, but I believe the answer to be that they simply do not want to spend the money and/or suffer the questions that would be asked as to why such a thing is necessary after all their assurances that nuke reactors are just a warm version of cuddly teddy bear.

Remember also that these goddamned things are uninsurable outside of .gov underwriting. No sane private insurer would ever underwrite a nuke reactor at a premium that would allow for a profit margin. Just for starters the actuarial table for a policy like that would have to be extended for about a thousand years into the future. Let's see, the premium would be in the trillions possibly?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:22 | 1173931 redpill
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You're probably right in that it comes down to cost, with false promises and assurances about how safe the plants are to get da gubmint on board.  But one has to wonder whether it is expensive compared to what the cost of Fukushima will ultimately be.  Perhaps Chernobyl could have been explained away as backward Russians using a dangerous design with inadequate safety mechanisms.  But Fukushima, this is a GE-designed reactor run by the most technologically advanced country on the planet.  

Even if one is of the opinion that the world is too dependent upon nuclear power to live without it, how can something absolutely foolproof not be demanded at this point?

It's no wonder Saudi Arabia is shitting bricks about the Bushehr plant:

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:38 | 1174012 Matte_Black
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Yes, brother, you are absolutely right. Your idea is so beautifully obvious that it surprised me. +100

And, really the cost to impliment a lead-lined, waterproof pit type of installation seems almost nonexistent next the cost Japan is facing at Fukushima. I'm thinking every number we've heard said in the same sentence as the word 'recovery' is laughably low. Fukushima hasn't been priced in at all.

$250B? lulz...

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:17 | 1173902 ElvisDog
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How in the Hell do you know what PICA is? Are you in the Space biz?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:25 | 1173949 redpill
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No, just a curious investor waiting for SpaceX to go public, my friend :)

Stay tuned for 4th quarter next year.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 10:53 | 1175738 Dooud
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Actually PICA won't work In this situation, Man. Ablative is the key concept here in a heat shield designed for atmospheric re-entry, the heat is carried away from the shield by ablation as the vehicle passes through the atmosphere at very high speed. In a static situation, the heat would build up. It is also likely that materials of this type will degrade prematurely due to high radiation environment (especially x-ray and energetic neutron bombardment). I still like the lead lined pit though, far out!

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 00:00 | 1177236 redpill
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Bummer about the PICA, then.  Unless they could keep it cooled from below, with recirculating liquid nitrogen or something of the like.  It's always amazing to me they only think about building elaborate emergency cooling systems after the damn thing is already melting.  Why aren't they incorporated into the original design?  Too expensive next to the value of every human life within 100 miles?

But anyway rock on, Dude.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:58 | 1174607 Widowmaker
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Because you can't sell insurance against it.  No leverage.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 03:16 | 1175444 Hephasteus
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Because that would be responsible. It's easier to make commercials that just say your responsible because then you get sleep with desperate chics who want the job in the commercial. Nobody wants to screw a lead lined underground pit. Well shit. I forgot this is japan. Throw in robotic tenticles and you're plan would be not only accepted it would become taboo to reject it.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 19:08 | 1176660 jonjon831983
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Lead has a pretty low melting point, figure if there was some thick lead lining it would degrade quickly?

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 23:50 | 1177220 redpill
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The lead could be a few feet into the walls and below the floor, it's just there to stop the radiation obviously, so it doesn't need to be the innermost layer.  Could even be contained by ceramic radiator-type structure so that if it does melt it stays in position.  But again, obviously that would cost too much money.   Unless of course you compare it to hopelessly irradiating a 100km area around the plant for foreseeable human history.  Then it's sort of a bargain if you ask me.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:09 | 1173330 Global Hunter
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I am trying to get my wife to go out to see the Bill Hicks documentary tonight its showing here in Toronto.  A little off topic I know but he was well ahead of the curve.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:22 | 1173380 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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American: Bill Hicks story is the best doc so far.

This is is ok too...

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:15 | 1173889 whoopsing
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Thank's for the link Monkeyboy

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 13:53 | 1178068 goldfish1
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"You are free to do what we tell you."

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:31 | 1173656 Whizbang
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haarp simulates effects of solar storms on the worlds emf. Don't know how that would cause quakes...

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:45 | 1173718 redpill
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Assumably the theory is that it can reflect low frequencies off the atmosphere and generate enough localized disturbance to trigger a seismic event.  I'm no physicist, but it doesn't sound very plausible.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:55 | 1173801 Whizbang
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Considering the fact that earthquakes originate miles below the earths crust, I would say that you're right.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 22:55 | 1175183 robobbob
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its an ongoing tin foil hat conspiracy joke.

basis. by converging radio waves reflected off of the ionosphere on to a target area over a period of time will induce heating in the target. It can be used to heat areas of the atmosphere to influence weather, or the energy can penetrate the earth causing heat and stress buildup resulting in earthquakes.

The conspiracy takes several seperately proven facts and ties them together into an unproven and doubtful way. Its always good for a laugh. Whenever anything strange happens,  weather anomalies, earthquakes, everyone always blames HAARP.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 03:42 | 1175457 Hephasteus
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I think how it works is like this. It's an ionizing energy. The upper atmosphere is populated entirely by the most extremely ionizing substances. Probably why they call it an ionophere. Anyway ionization affects the electrical force. The electrical force is a like a true field effect force from physics theory. In that it's a force that exists everywhere without any localization. Though we only experience it in some degree of combination with electromagnetics. My theory is that the electrical force without the magnetic force would exist everywhere in equal porportions. Magnetism as we understand it exists in a very localized fashion. Distance squared is how it drops off in electromagneticsm. But magnetic forces from magnetism drop off at distance cubed rate. But we still only experience a narrow confinement of these 2 forces. In other words in complete absense of magnetism electrical forces would never drop off and never experience any sort of voltage differential. A purely magentic force would be so confined without being spread out and unconfined by the electrical force that it would exist nowhere with pure and total potential difference between anything surrounding it. There of course would be no voltage associated with a pure magnetic force.

Anyway these two forces the electrical force and the magenetic force both affect each other. And distance just is totally irrelevant under the right cicrumstances. So by affecting the ionosphere you affect the way magnetic forces between the sun and the earth operate. Ionize the upper atmosphere and you force open normally somewhat predictable magnetic 'portals' between the sun and the earth. This affects the magnetic core of the earth and causes earth quakes. But there has to be massive propensity there anyway. It's not like you can cause an earthquake thats not along the normal force and pressure granular boundries of the crust.

This affect causes a strange phenomenon I call 400kvolts everywhere. What's the voltage difference between the ionosphere and the core of the earth. 400k volts. What's the voltage differnece between I0 and jupiter. Why it's 400k volts. What's the voltage difference between Uranus and two of it's moons that travel very close to each other on an orbital path. Why it's 400kvolts. What happens when those two moons get close to each other. Why a really giant freaking 400kvolt lightening strike between the two. What would happen if you put an atmosphere on the moon. Why you'd create the 400k volt phenomenon and instead of the moon causing tidal forces it would also work like a gaint capacitor that charges up just shocks the shit out of the earth every once and while.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 13:47 | 1173233 magpie
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because they really plan to go to Taiwan.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:33 | 1173427 Popo
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I live in Bangkok.  My neighborhood is suddenly *filled* with Japanese families that have just moved here.  This is a major, major trend.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 19:52 | 1173688 SME MOFO
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on sukhumvit?  full time move with trucks etc. or pre-furnished serviced apartments? kids and old people with them? PETS?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:19 | 1173909 chumbawamba
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No doubt, you moved their for the cheap cost of living and stayed for the child prostitutes.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 13:50 | 1173238 SheepDog-One
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Delete all truthiness from all news, media peasants, same as economic news no truth shall get out or we expend 1 bullet.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:34 | 1173673 Problem Is
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Obummer operative... fascist Czar... and all around Harvard-Douche...
Cass Sunstein has <JUNKED> you...

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 13:52 | 1173250 umop episdn
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It's getting harder and harder to keep the proclamations from the Chinese Ministry of Truth separated from those from the QSA Ministry of Truth. "Meat Pancake" will work for this week, tho!

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 13:51 | 1173255 tmosley
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Wow, China confirmed the rumor before we even heard it.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:51 | 1173491 cossack55
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They're gettin' almost as efficient as the krauts. WTF?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 13:54 | 1173266 Shermanium
Fri, 04/15/2011 - 13:55 | 1173273 slaughterer
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Why hasn't this been deleted yet?  Are you watching porn there in China?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:53 | 1174079 Dejean Splicer
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Is Justin Beber next on the Southern Poverty hit list?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 13:57 | 1173275 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I wrote about this in the article below.

Japan will soon be deserted.  One of the world's busiest and most important hubs is only just downwind from one of the worst nuclear disasters ever.  It will be a ghost town.  Massive deflation will hit the Japanese industry.  The trickle of people moving now will turn into a rush of tens of millions.  Many will never visit their homeland of Japan again.


Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:21 | 1173386 Herman Strandsc...
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'The trickle of people moving now will turn into a rush of tens of millions.  Many will never visit their homeland of Japan again.'

Thanks Mr Lennon Hendrix. - A very moving story.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:19 | 1173599 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You are welcome, Herman. 

Such a lonely planet we live in nowadays.  Ideals have become isolated, entertainment  fairs better than nurishment.  Hopefully people wake up and know that we are who we have been waiting for, so to join hands and sing the banksters back to hell.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:35 | 1173679 Herman Strandsc...
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It would be more lonely without the internet and truth news.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:01 | 1173298 americanspirit
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It is really funny watching the Chinese government trying to play whack-a-mole with internet rumors. They are going to have to so some serious firing squad action in public for rumors to abate - it's just too much fun to make them up and spread them.

Have you heard the latest? The Japanese are all moving to Tibet at the invitation of the Dalai Lama.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:06 | 1173319 InconvenientCou...
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It's a headfake to keep the pressure off of Vancouver BC.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 19:09 | 1176664 jonjon831983
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Interesting... Vancouver property prices have continued rising in comparison to the rest of Canada which have mostly slowed or stagnated.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:10 | 1173321 TruthInSunshine
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I'm no conspiracy theorist, but anyone who denies that a major radiological (and out of control) event is taking place on a relatively small mass of land (and island), and that those living there with resources aren't either bugging out or preparing to do so...

...let me be diplomatic...



Yes. Naive is the adjective that I shall choose to use. They are naive.

You know, it's not like Japan's leadership hasn't already hatched plans to literally move the capital of Japan to a different part of their territory, or anything like that. Naaaaaaw.

And this won't significantly adversely impact Japanese or Global Economic Activity.


Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:26 | 1173347 Herman Strandsc...
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Well I wouldn't stay there if I had the wherewithal and public service tax income to leave.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:19 | 1173375 FIAT_FixItAgainTony
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agreed truth, always appreciate your truthful take in the sunshine.  and to think obummera actually said "sunshine is the greatest disinfectant" before his sock-puppet appointment by the alleged democratic majority!

the island is f'd and so are the rest of us.  it's certainly not just the land either.  the air, the ocean water and now crops around the world are affected.

this was the biggest f up ever that we got to witness.

plus there are still more reactors to f up!  especially in Japan while earthquakes continue.


Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:36 | 1173444 hedgeless_horseman
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this was the biggest f up ever that we got to witness.

Probably not.

On a long enough timeline
the survival rate for
everyone drops to zero.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:07 | 1173323 AldousHuxley
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Becareful, turning Zero Hedge into Wikileaks will get ZH members accused of rape and giving opportunity for central banks to shut the site down for treason.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:38 | 1173452 medicalstudent
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fuck your masters.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:07 | 1173325 Trillax
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Interesting news either way one could play it.  Definately something to make you go, 'Hmm'.


Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:07 | 1173326 Highrev
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So what's the deal? Are they going to sell them the island?

. . . cause I doubt they'll be too interested in relocating to a communist totalitarian regime even if they do let you play with monopoly money.

Just another Chinese PR campaign - ya know, they are just like us aren't they. ROFL

(Well, in the schmuck sense, I guess they are.)

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:07 | 1173332 Josh Randall
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Good, let them consolidate on a small chain of islands, easier to locate that way for the pitch fork crowd

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:16 | 1173362 Herman Strandsc...
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The Hong Kong MKII ! They'ill need to change the flag though, slightly.

Herman Strand Schenecke

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:16 | 1173370 Lord Welligton
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Odd indeed.

Maybe someone is getting ready to nuke the plant.


Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:19 | 1173377 TragicHipster
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The rumor may have started here, if anyone can make sense of the translation:

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:25 | 1173393 The Answer Is 42
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C'mon, they're much better off migrating to Peru.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:32 | 1173415 Herman Strandsc...
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Well, they often wear similar hats like those wooly knitted  ones with the dangly bits. Or how about Cuba? They could do with a bit of Japanese esoteric modernisation and electronic trickery.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:29 | 1173409 Misean
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"Under the law, new development projects on uninhabited islands will be subject to strict environmental impact assessments."

Chinese code for bribing bureaucrats.

In the West that's code for "Gov't roping off tracks of land around the estates of the elite."

Personally, I prefer the Chinese version.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:29 | 1173420 DeweyLeon
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My sister-in-law works at an auto parts distributor.  They shut down the plant today (largest employer in our town) because they can't get parts from Japan any longer. 

She says their clients are moving on to distributors that don't use Japan and she will have to look for work elsewhere.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:38 | 1173442 Herman Strandsc...
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Best wishes to your sister but her company should undercut them by doing the same thing and sourcing second hand used parts. Maybe?

In a recession there is money to be made in used parts and partly worn stuff.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:52 | 1173453 hedgeless_horseman
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Sis's company have a name, or at least a city?  Else we might think it didn't happen.

God must be protecting Texas, as we haven't had a cloud, radioactive or other, since well before Fukushima.  We do need rain.  Get ready for higher beef prices.

In Texas, where the past six months has been the driest such period on record since 1967, more than half of the state is parched by extreme drought, according to the Drought Monitor, a compendium of government and academic estimates.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:11 | 1173565 j0nx
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You can have some of ours then. It's been fucking raining, cold and or cloudy here in the DC area almost nonstop since February. I can count on one hand the amount of nice days we have had in the past month and yesterday and today are two of them. The rain and shit weather will be back for round 100 tonight and tomorrow though. It's getting to be ridiculous honestly.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:54 | 1174375 Calmyourself
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DC area you say.. Heard of "TOOLS" learn to swim? "Millions of dumbfounded dipshits" etc.. If only DC would learn to swim..

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 10:05 | 1175676 qmhedging
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La Nina to stay

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 00:44 | 1175355 westboundnup
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Even for April, it's been a bit much.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:42 | 1173454 Clampit
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And much like AACS LA, they're about to learn a lesson in how not to fight the internet.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:10 | 1173460 DeweyLeon
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Thanks, I don't know what thier options are, but it doesn't look good right now.  I feel sorry for all of them and for our area.  It's already seen the loss of alot of manufactoring jobs over the past 15 years and this last blow will be very painful for everyone.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:43 | 1173469 DeweyLeon
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It's not a huge company or listed on the DOW, but it's huge to us.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:58 | 1173524 cossack55
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I thought DC was the Heart of Plastic Vall......oops. I was thinking of people made out of plastic. Disregard.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:35 | 1173669 Herman Strandsc...
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Thanks for the link. It looks a proper, modern facility. I wish you all well in the future and hope someone can see the potential for reorganisation if need be. The machines and people look good to diversification. Can't you make stuff that Japanese plants can't do now?

Management/employee  buyout?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:57 | 1173797 DeweyLeon
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I wish I knew more about the inner workings of the plant, I just know they're all starting to look for other work (what there is of it around here anymore).

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:45 | 1173474 EvlTheCat
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It would be funny if this was true.  Kind of like moving out of the radiation frying pan and into the tsunami fire.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:52 | 1173496 nah
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China meet Japan Japan



Fri, 04/15/2011 - 14:57 | 1173499 Mercury
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Nice place!

Am I elite enough to flee there?

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:04 | 1173551 tmosley
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If you own gold and silver, probably, sooner or later.  Otherwise, probably not.  Unless you have "pull".

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:10 | 1173568 3.7.77
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"the Ninth Bureau of the State Council Information Office" 


We have a shorter name for ours, Homeland Security.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:25 | 1173633 carbonmutant
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Well, you don't want to cause any premature real estate speculation... lol

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:29 | 1173653 Steroid
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Japan might be lucky. If FUshima is the price to get rid of their "elite" let it be. That's a bargain.

If they go to China even better, they deserve each other.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:49 | 1173745 topcallingtroll
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I on the other hand welcome our new japanese elite overlords. We will change manhattan to new japan.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:39 | 1173689 ISEEIT
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So let's just call this weird friday?

On weird Friday I would speculate that Japan was (is?) the wall separating East/West.

Taking Japan off the board is likely just nearly as critical as is the death of America.

If ya wanna consolidate power, ya gotta break some eggs.

If ya want the price of eggs to go up, insure that there are fewer available.

If you want a single world government..............

Hammer the Jap's and snooker the 'zombie nation' Americans.

I wonder what G.W./Clinton/obama get for all this besides unlimited security?

Or maybe that is really enough?



Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:46 | 1173707 topcallingtroll
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Hey you japanese elite.

You and your money are always welcome in the usa. You can buy your own island .

We love oriental asians, you being the model minority and all that. We even will take a few non elite japanese as freebies, but none of those wachamacallit young males who stay in their room and.dont date. Unless they are smart and can invent a better sex robot or something.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:42 | 1173709 SME MOFO
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ok, so this means mrs watanabe sells her ozzie bonds and buys thai baht or yuan skipping the yen repatriation trade entirely.  if country abandoned, this is bad for yen prolly

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 15:52 | 1173772 Matte_Black
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The divine wind will soon turn demonic as it shifts ever southward. If you were sitting in Tokyo, how would you respond to the following reports:

Me? Hell, I'd liquidate all i could and beat it for the sake of my family. Kiss Japan goodbye.


Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:41 | 1174296 Sweet Chicken
Fri, 04/15/2011 - 16:56 | 1174087 Lord Koos
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Having been to Hainan, I can't really buy that any Japanese would want to emigrate there... there is nothing there but a military base, a bunch of tourist traps and a few farmers.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 19:19 | 1176670 jonjon831983
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Concur, did you go to that "native village" rofl.  wtf was that.  Someone pointed out that these barefeet natives had sandal tans.

I think it was 2005 when I went and the guide said they still turned off the lights after 9pm to conserve energy.

They are also in "typhoon alley" I met up with people on the mainland in Sichuan and barely missed a typhoon.  (But then around the area including HK they are effected by Typhoons)

Nowhere on the island is anything close to a Tokyo.

I guess if this rumour was true, then being a land developer would be a profitable opportunity.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:22 | 1174205 AldousHuxley
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Who knew communists excel in viral marketing.

Google search for Hainan Island just peaked.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 17:30 | 1174255 ArgentDawn
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This seems appropriate.."A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."
"Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?"
" You wouldn't believe."

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:35 | 1174529 no sleep
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Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:48 | 1174574 no sleep
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Remember when the Chinese were "fast and furiously", building
vast numbers of new "empty cities", in the last two years, in particular,... and the buyers were flipping them, only if they were kept in a pristine,empty condition.
Where else on earth would there be enough , ready-to-move into
INSTANTLY, real estate to handle let's say, the 10%
[15,000,000 or so] wealthy Japanese, who are able to flee
mainland Japan, because of Fukishima.
And, of course, the prices of the real estate in these cities, will sky-rocket [ also keep in mind, that the cities can become total Japanese enclaves, so one doesn't need to mix,
with the Chinese]
Behind every great fortune, there is a corresponding great crime.
Maybe Fukishima was a result of the a quick burst from the
Chinese equivalent LHC, to create some willing customers.
Just sayin'

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 00:50 | 1175361 westboundnup
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To your point, the MSM has accepted at face value the proposition that the tsunami totally severed coolant connections and power for days at the site.  I wonder.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 18:57 | 1174605 Buck Johnson
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They are going to the Island, thats for sure.  Ask yourself this, if all of a sudden the Prime Minister came out on saturday and said the situation at Fukishima and a few other power stations are not controllable and we may lose 1/3 or 2/3 of Japan, what would happen.  There would be a mass rush to the exits, the markets would crash to zero and you couldn't get any country to loan any japanese anything in regard to money.  The elite of Japan must get their stuff out first and their people and then yell fire, so that they don't get caught up with the rest.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 21:08 | 1174912 Vlad Tepid
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I really have to say, all this talk about Japanese "fleeing Japan and never returning after the country turns into a nuclear wasteland" is a little much to take.  That simply won't happen. No matter how bad this gets, even if Tokyo needs to be abandoned (worst case scenario) Hokkaido and western Japan (read Nagoya west) will be fine.  The Japanese people as a whole would rather go extinct, either willfully or out of ignorance, rather than leave their islands.  There are Japanese media reports of many millions who are hanging around in Fukushima Prefecture (outside of the evac zone) waiting for the alaram to be lifted.

For the record, I would not be doing this.  Also, for the record Japanese elites (name one - Japanese society is far more egalitarian...there are no Rothschilds equivalents left) don't even know Hainan exists and would never THINK about evacuating to a sweltering, God-forsaken Chinese rock (a large rock, but a rock nonetheless) like that.  Look for them in Australia, NZ, Taiwan, Fiji, etc, but not HAINAN. 

And responding to the breathless poster above who declares hoards of Japanese refugees pouring into his neighborhood in Thailand...please.  I doubt that is happening.  There is little infrastructure to support mass Japanese tourism (ie Japanese language services) and Japanese are more insular and homebody than any other adult people on earth.  One of my best friends is a Japanese national living in Thailand with connections to the Thai government and she has seen nothing of the sort.  So unless a charter plane just arrived, please shut up with the hysterics, dude.  I am currnetly on Guam (motto: #2 destination for Japanese overseas after Hawaii) and despite having Japanese language/food everywhere, yen accepted in shops, super cheap accomodations, outside of the radiation shadow, unlike Hawaii, and very close to Japan, the tourism bureau has not see a budge in Japanese traffic since a brief down spike in tourism after the quake.  

So please...

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 01:37 | 1177380 stev3e
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Thank you for posting this.  I was going to respond in much the same manner after reading all the ignorant rants here but just didn't want to spend the energy.

The Japanese are emigrating nowhere.

Fri, 04/15/2011 - 21:28 | 1174957 americanspirit
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I am the mayor of Nanking and I would like to invite the Japanese elite, particularly the military ( er - sorry - self-defense force) to come to put down roots ( so to speak) in our city.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 19:23 | 1176680 jonjon831983
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hella true. Likely that the Chinese government would lose control of the reins of nationalism if a large portion of Japanese happened to settle on Chinese territories.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 09:45 | 1175651 qmhedging
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Why not Russia?Global warming makes it a nice place

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 09:03 | 1177609 New_Meat
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CNPE is building two PWRs on Hainan - Ned

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