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Oil Spill Might Be Making Natural Seeps Larger
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The deep sea subs have found other leaks a couple of miles from BP's
gushing blowout preventer and riser.
For example, the Houston
Chronicle noted
on June 21st:
A report from the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration on Monday noted research vessels found
natural gas seeping from the sea floor several miles away from the well.
While
many might be quick to take this as confirmation of Matt Simmons' claims
that there is another leak directly caused by the sinking of the
drilling rig, the Chronicle goes on to explain:
Those
appear to be pre-existing seeps that occur naturally, a NOAA
spokeswoman said, and unrelated to the spill.
But
the Washington Post made a very important
point yesterday:
Bruce Bullock, director
of the Maguire Energy Institute at Southern Methodist University, said
additional leaks are a possible source of deep-sea plumes of oil
detected by research vessels. But this part of the gulf is pocked with
natural seeps, he noted. Conceivably
the drilling of the well, and/or the subsequent blowout, could have
affected the seeps, he said.
"Once you started disturbing the underground geology, you may have made
one of those seeps even worse," he said.
Remember
that geologists have said that if the well casing is substantially
breached, the oil and methane gas will find a way through fractures in
the surrounding geology and make it into the ocean. For example, the
Houston Chronicle notes:
If the well
casing burst it could send oil and gas streaming through the strata to
appear elsewhere on the sea floor ....
Obviously,
if there are natural oil or gas seeps nearby, there are already
pre-existing channels up to the seafloor ... so that may very well be
the path of least resistance for the subterranean oil to flow up to the
seafloor.
Therefore, if there were a substantial breach in the
well bore, nearby natural oil and gas seeps could very well increase in
volume.
Because BP would like to minimize
leak estimates to minimize the damages it has to pay under the Clean
Water Act, BP would undoubtedly try to pretend that the nearby
natural seeps always had the same volume. In other words, the owner
of the oil drilling prospect where the spill is occuring - BP - may be
the only party to have mapped out the nearby seeps (Anadarko and Mitsui
were partners
with BP in the oil prospect; but - as passive partners - they probably
didn't take a hands-on approach to such details).
So don't be
surprised if - when formerly tiny seeps become gushers - BP tries to
pretend that they were always that large.
Indeed - given BP's
track record of prevarication - don't be shocked if BP pretends that
brand new gushers are ancient, natural seeps.
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Augustus
the only pig shit flying around now is your disingenious posts
a shill for the BP crew..a locked jaw seller of integrety for a crumb.
to post multiply annal remarks about a serious issues ,, shows that pigs do gather into swamps of B.S,
and are attracted by loads of spit ,
Disgustus - is BP paying you overtime? I hope so, cuz you're spewing more barrels of BS per day than that gusher you Limey's created there in the gulf. C'mon little fella; it's bed time. Get some sour milk & oil-covered fish and chips and call it a life wasted.
Cheers, Little Matey!
Thoreau,
How much nonsense do you swallow before it brings on indigestion? Evidently the noxious airs from the induced flatulence have increased your imbalances. Get the oxygen level checked soon, OK?
It is Geo Wash who must be receiving payment. What else could be the motivation for concocting the stream of demonstrably inaccurate and fantastic nonsense. Possibly he is involved in the Crammer conspiracy to profit from shorts on BP stock? These posts have not been done for the purpose of providing informed education of anyone. It started when he joined in on the nonsense that the 15,000 ft of casing had blown out of the hole without anyone seeing it fly across the gulf and the wellhead had moved seven miles. The only reason for attempting to defend that is an intention to mislead and probably within a conspiracy for profit. Follow on posts have been more desperate and fanciful than that one.
separated at birth: disgustus and Master bates
GW can hope for no greater compliment than garnering the dedicated attention of a bought and paid-for shill like Gus.
x 1000 and well said. I have never seen such obvious trollery. If Disgustus had any ideas I might be interested. I'm still waiting.
So don't be surprised if - when formerly tiny seeps become gushers - BP tries to pretend that they were always that large.
Don't be surprised if - when pigs fly - you have pig shit on your head. Wait, pigs must be able to fly now. And it is more dangerous than I forecast. OMG. The pig shit has PENETRATED your brain.
BP is so powerful that they have a strategy of making Billions from filing bankruptcy. The Bilderbergs are on top of it and only allowed you to buy in so that they could drive the price to zero while damaging the GOM. They actually own all of the shrimp farms in Thialand will reap several billions from that. The strategy was to own the tennis shoe factories as they know that you will pay for a tread on your foot when you cannot afford to drive your car.
BP = Barack Petroleum
It's actually Bilderberg Petroleum
BP has four direct links to Bilderberg: former CEO John Brown, chairman Carl Henric Svanberg, chief executive Tony Hayward and Sutherland. In addition, Sutherland formerly served as the World Trade Organization’s director general, EU commissioner and chairman of the European Trilateral Commission
GW, here is an article I found at the site 'Peak Oil'... Some of the comments are alarming but I was most interested in the fact that BP has been unwilling to release the mudlogs. There are also comments from a Louisiana Parrish sheriff about evacuation plans, and why BP was willing to cough up money so quickly when past corporate disaster settlements were fought in the courts for years.
"Geologist, Chris Landau, for instance, has called for a showing of the mudlogs. A mudlog is a schematic cross sectional drawing of the lithology (rock type) of the well that has been bored.
So far, no one has seen them… BP keeps them hidden."
Farther into the article:
"Furthermore, geologists believe there are another 4-5 cracks or fissions in the well. Upon using a GPS and Depth finder system, experts have discovered a large gas bubble, 15-20 miles across and tens of feet high, under the ocean floor."
Last one from me but there is much more in the article:
"In other words: BP shifted from stopping the gusher to opening it up and catching what oil it could.
The only reason sane oil men would do this is if they wanted to relieve pressure at the leak hidden down below the seabed… And that sort of leak — known as a “down hole” leak — is one of the most dangerous kind.
No stopping it
It means that BP can’t stop if from above; it can only relieve the pressure.
So, more oil is leaking out while BP hopes it can drill new wells before the current one completely erodes.
BP is in a race against time… It just won’t admit this fact."
'The Well From Hell'
http://peakoil.com/enviroment/the-well-from-hell/
Friends, I'm not sure if I buy the methane bubble thing.
Chris Landau would qualify for hospitalization on mental issues
This is essentially what Matt Simmons has been saying for a month. He has been branded insane. We will know soon whether he should be honored for his bravery and insight. Remember, Texas A&M researchers just reported after a 10 day survey of the water 5 to 8 miles from the blowout finding 1 million times the methane concentration in parts of the GoM which will kill all marine life (per ZH)
This is essentially what Matt Simmons has been saying for a month. He has been branded insane.
Get a clue. This post is also insane.
Matt Simmons is not crazy. I have read 'Twilight in the Desert' and followed his writings on the Oil Drum long before the current melt down of the world economy began.
He is a savvy oil investment banker and has been in the business since at least 1973 and knows every aspect of the oil business. He was an energy/oil advisor to the first Bush president.
Anyone branding Simmons as crazy is merely trying to discredit him...
Look, I thought we’d all be living like the Jetsons by now.
Nuclear energy was a wonder to those of us that remember it. I thought we'd have solar licked. America chose lowest hanging energy fruit of all, OIL. Any why wouldn’t we? The stuff is a room temperature miracle. But the shit stinks and to not exploit the vast resources of land based operations first is gross criminality. Thank you, treehuggers.
I’d level Robert Byrd’s home state before ever going offshore. Coal is dirty too but the air is pretty clean in the USA. Is it 30% of our power is derived from coal? Visit anywhere in Asia and then tell me your thoughts on how well we’re handling air pollution.
I’m fourth generation Floridian; never lived anywhere else for very long.
Shout out to Muir, I was in Coconut Grove during Andrew.
I’ve already seen the effects of global pollution on the reefs. The Keys in the 50s and 60s were a veritable wonderland. We would go out on the ocean and drop anything shiny and Bam! - Hemingway sleigh ride. What’s barely there now can hardly be called abundance. All reefs on the entire eastern coast have been devastated in my life time.
Is GoM the extinction event?
Dunno, but if it only kills the grandkids, then kick it, bitchez…
The Jetsons were cancelled after two seasons.
WE got a couple extra seasons for good behavior.
Dr. Sandi, you're obviously a good shoulder to cry on. But you slit Augustus pretty wide and deep, so I'm a little frightened in an 'et tu Brute' sorta way.
But I gotta ask, are sure the Jetsons were only two seasons?
Okay, I was wrong.
The Jetsons only got one season, 1962-1963. Then reruns forever.
BUT, they picked the show up again and made 2 additional seasons that apparently ran from 1985-1987. I didn't see those.
Maybe we will be so lucky and get picked up again 23 years after we're dead. If the Jetsons can do it....
I personally believe that BP is responsible for the 5.0 earthquake that recently rattled Toronto and surrounding areas in upstate NY. My theory: leaks from the damaged well casing have excessively lubricated North American tectonic plates accelerating subduction and precipitating seismic instability across the continent. I'm sure this has also come to the attention of the legal fraternity, and that appropriate class action claims will be filed in various jurisdictions forthwith. If BP would like to be avoid devoting most of its resources to defending this and an endless array of similarly meretricious legal actions concocted by excessively lubricated minds like mine, then I recommend they wise up and file BK.
Just DO IT, and DO IT NOW!
The entire reason for the blowout, that Obama is determined to conceal, it that this well intersected a well drilled by the Chinese that they used for waste disposal. Just look at your globe and it is obvious. And everyone knows that more weight loaded from the Chinese would push the casing and tools out of this hole, no matter how hard BP tried to push it back in. If Obama reveals the Chinese involvement in spewing their toxic waste in our Gulf of Mexico he knows there is going to be a war. He has not got the materials in place yet for that conflict and is waiting for the preperations to be completed before he allows Joe Biden to announce the cause and declare war. BP has drilled hundreds of deepwater wells without problem The Chinese sabotaged this one and the MSM is allowing Obama to hide the evidence. If the Chinese try to deny it you know that they are lying to keep Obama in office for a few more months.
All earthquakes are caused by oil well drilling. Do you know of an earthquake in the last 100 years that occured when there was not a well being drilled somewhere? It is all connected through Mother Gia in tension, or compression. Releasing that tension in any one location brings on a slippage in the mantle somewhere else. It is still to be determined how the Boston project of the Big Dig will endanger the population of Ireland. There are rocks in both places and they must ge able to communicate the differences in stress relief or addition.
Geo Wash is full of nonsense.
But, IF you want to believe the nonsense Geo Wash assertions,
Prove that this well did NOT intercept a Chinese Hazardous Materials disposal well. that is all you need to do. And prove that there are no Ghosts.
Horsefeathers. Feathers on a horse is nonsense and so are your claims (beliefs).
You have provided NO evidence to support ANY of your preposterous beliefs.
Just out of curiousity, what color is the sky in your world?
Death to the dirty dogs.
War with China now!
Augustus,
Look I'm not a therapist but may I at least suggest pot instead of crack?
Except there is no subduction, the earth is in fact expanding.
The oil is a product of this earth 'dynamism'.
Very funny ?
Kind of, but not really. My intention was point out that there is no end to the speculation about the extent of potential damages in this situation. Open-ended, unlimited liability for BP, its partners, and -- by psychological extension -- the offshore oil industry as a whole is simply not a desirable outcome. Even assuming the most rigorous national commitment to conservation and alternative energy sources, declining production from traditional suppliers and increasing consumption in the developing countries means that we desperately need every barrel we can extract for the foreseeable future. BP is presently an albatross around the industry's neck; it needs to be cut loose -- and the sooner the better.
I appreciate what you're saying ... but you should know that I stay away from rumors and speculations which aren't based in credible expert opinion or credible speculation.
For example, I haven't touched the "it's raining oil" story or the "we're going to get a methane explosion which will cause a tsunami" theory.
And I've never said Matt Simmons is right. Time will tell...
I appreciate what you're saying ... but you should know that I stay away from rumors and speculations which aren't based in credible expert opinion or credible speculation.
That is pure and unadulterated Bull Shit. Everything you post is full of rumors and unfounded speculation. You only cut and paste the nonsense. That is what is expected from a GED holder.
Tell us why you believe the Sigsby Salt poses a danger. You seemed to believe the formation was noteworthy and implied that you knew some reason that drilling into it would cause monsters to be released. My opinion is that is not much different from having Great Salt Lake relocated and given 150 million years to drift and get buried. But you have that Geology understanding that I may have missed and that the clueless on Zerohedge seem to love. How did it contain that 100,000 psi pressure that you reported existed in this monster well that will swallow the GOM? What salt layer thickness do you calculate would be required to contain 100,000 psia pressures? Is it greater than 30,000 ft of salt, or less? (BTW this well was only 18,000 ft TD). You have claimed expert geology knowledge Geo Wash, so what would be the required salt thickness? Do not be concerned with addressing reality in your answer, just post more ghostly bullshit.
How bout you get in your little 6' dingy and pattle your little ass out into the Gulf and get a reality check! GW is at the very least trying to portray the magnitude of this situation. This may end up to be the world's most damaging ecological disaster EVER and all you care about is yourself and your unbacked opinions.
Geo Wash is simply using a fertile but damaged immagination to concoct incredible exagerations. The unbacked assertions you mention are those of Geo Wash that you defend in ignorance.
GW, I live near where the purported raining oil video was taken. Trust me, it has not rained oil here. If it does start to rain oil here I will post that information on ZH immediately. I have been posting my honest observations on this oil spill here since it happened. The video looked like somebody had a car with an oil leak parked in their driveway.
Hmmm, the last Richard Nixon that I trusted screwed america... Sorry bro, I would like to believe you but bad choice of moniker on your part.
It's supposed to be a joke. Archie Bunker referred to him as "Richard E Nixon" in a famous All in the Family episode. That's why Archie is my avatar. I guess it's too obscure a reference. If it causes people not to trust my honesty maybe I should change it.
Mr. Nixon, that was my first take when I watched the video.
Good luck when the storms hit (in all sincerity). Please keep us posted.
I think a couple of miles is pretty far George.But not impossible.
You have been doing a great job on this...thank you.
Cistercianon, I saw an article saying there was one seep 1 mile away...but I can't find it now. Anyone have the link?
It is very obvious that this is the case as now they have the containment cap half way off to allow more flow from the bop. There is no doubt that they are trying to conceal the extent of this leak. Just look for yourself at the live feed, the gusher is twice as much and they are vigourously pumping the Corexit 9500 at much higher rates into the gusher to allow the oil to stay submerged. With the bop now tilting at a 14 degree angle I would expect it will not be long before the whole thing collapses and creates a bigger problem. My guess is we will see another address from the oval office possibly after the 4th of July weekend revealing the true extent of the situation. Why the government would try and cover up the extent of this to protect their political positions is alarming.The fact that they have not allowed any other countries to help makes it clear that they do not want anybody else to discover what they know. This should be treated as a war, as if there was a nuclear threat being staged against the Gulf and every piece of information should be public to protect the people that live in this region and the rest of the country for that matter.
tahoebumsmith,
the reasons why the WH has done nothing to plug the oil volcano are two fold:
1. A good crisis is needed to push through cap and trade legislation, so that GS, GE, Al Gore and the rest of the swine can profit in the trillions.
2. The Mulatto Messiah is determined to destroy Iran for fun, profit and as a pay off to the Israeli lobby. Who cares about millions of stupid red necks in the gulf state? After all, they are mostly republicans and deserve to suffer for defying the anointed one, who is here to put gas in your tanks, and heal the world.